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Gerry, had any experience with Ultimate Nutrition Horse Power?

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So I've decided that I'm craving pizza way too bad, and I don't feel like wasting a cheat meal on it. I've found a recipe for whole wheat pizza dough (http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Amazing...st/Detail.aspx) and I'll be using the thin-crust variation to feed my craving tonight. I've decided I'll be using ham (Either brown sugar, or honey cured), balsamic marinated cipolline onions, fresh fat-free mozzarella, and most likely fresh basil and/or sundried tomatoes. Can any of you think of anything else that would be good to throw on this? I'm trying to keep it low fat, even with the higher carbs, but I also want to make sure there's plenty of good protein on there. I will most definitely be posting back with my results...

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Any of you guys have any experiance with Muscletechs. NaNo Vapor. I have used some of their products before (luekic) and really liked it. They do great job marketing their products, any ideas whether this is a good product, or hype?

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Update 1: I'm letting the dough rise for the second time, and it's starting to look really good... I picked up the balsamic cipolline onions, mozzarella rolled up with sundried tomatoes (Only .5g less fat than the regular mozzerella so I figured I might as well enjoy it), about a quarter pound of honey-ham, a few paper thin sliced of prosciutto, some Italian turkey sausage, fresh cremini mushrooms, and a small bunch of fresh basil. I've got everything cut up and now I'm just waiting for the dough to finish it's second proof in about 35 minutes, and then it's 15 min in the oven until dinner. It feels good to cook again. I rarely have time to do it between school, work, and the gym.

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Still wondering about this, and also whether I should take Taurine pre or post workout, Gerry. :)

How did it turn out? :D

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http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...mite/Pizza.jpg

It was fantastic. The dough wasn't quite fully cooked in the middle, but I also think it may have been a little overtopped, and I don't have a pizza stone, so that also adds complications in cooking time. I think next time I'll take it down to 400 degrees for 20-25 minutes instead of the 16-20 at 425 the instructions gave me. I think next time I'll also forgo the prosciutto (Delicious, but a bit too much salt/fat than I really want right now) and instead use some roasted red peppers, or something else that would be similarly sweet. I'll probably also use less toppings in general. It still would've been good without the Cremini mushrooms and olives, and it probably would've cooked better as well. I spent about $35-40 on ingredients, but that also included the cost of flour, yeast, dried oregano, a jar of roasted garlic, and sun dried tomatoes, so I really only spent about $15-20 on the cost of ingredients for one 14" pizza, and now I've got the base materials to make the dough 7-8 more times, if not even more than that. IMO, it was Well worth it for a pizza you're not going to find at Domino's, and much healthier as well. I was going to have a 2 pieces before the gym, 2 after, and leave one for each of the roommates, but I ended up eating 6 of 8 pieces for dinner, and I'm gonna call this a night off... Tomorrow's shoulders and tris though!


On a side-note, my phone camera makes this pizza look like an oil painting.

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Back to lifting today -- decided to start back on a West Side-ish routine, again. Speed legs today: 10 x 2 box squat below parallel at 225 (it was actually 4 x 3, 4 x 2; but it's same reps at 10 x 2). Also did 3 x 10 pullthroughs @ 200, 4 x 12-15 cable rope crunches @ 200, 3 x 6 db rows @ 90, and 3 x 10 shrugs @ 225 (light because my right shoulder was bothering me). I soooo hadn't eaten for this yesterday. :r

Off to the witch doctor in a bit for another adjustment. I fear this will become a weekly activity, which may not be bad ... it's just another expense to which I was not looking forward. :hn

Placed a new order for protein yesterday. Decided to get some ON Pro Complex for PWO shakes, finally (rocky road, of course) and some vanilla 100% whey for the versatility (i.e., mixing into oatmeal, adding to a Blizzard ... you know, the usual :r).

I need to get back on a regular clean eating routine, too. I'm also thinking about going into the gym twice a day -- cardio in the morning and lifting at night. Pretty sure Dr. MRS would kill me if I started; but that might have to be an acceptable risk. :p

OK ... I'm done rambling. :r :D :ze

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Good luck at the witch doc, Dokk! :D

Off to hit the gym shortly, I am taking Wed and Thur off due to training at work, so I will try to hit it hard today and tomorrow.

Gerry....you're slacking in the advice column, Bro. ;) :r

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Glad to see everyones doing well.

I went back to the gym today, speed benching, db incline and a series of different types of pull ups. (wide grip overhand, close grip underhand etc.)

Dokk when I do two a days my appetite goes through the roof. Usually about 8000 cal and I shoot for 300+grams of protein. If you are going to do this I suggest varying your cardio in the mornings so its not just running, I would add biking, swimming if possible, eliptical, and rowing. I think Running everyday plus lifting is too much high impact activity on the body

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Oh Dave ... I don't run unless I'm being chased. :r :r :r

Thanks for the suggestions!

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big chest day today. Maybe take 2 scoops of white flood and 1 jet fuel pill from Al. Shouldn't be too much

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Good luck jim! Can't wait to hear how it goes

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Hi Gerry doesn't start answering my questions I am taking his name off the thread title. :mad:

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Seriously, Admiral ... he's really shirking his responsibility. :dance: <----- (Gerry shirking)

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Yup...and I am ready to :pn in his general direction. :r

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Gerry?

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no disrespect intended to you, Admiral ... but get pnoon to do it. :D :tu

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Just got in from the gym today....I'm only about a week and a half into working out again but my god it's fun. I don't know why I stopped for so long. Oh well. And I'm lovin this WF...thanks for the suggestions, today i finished my workout but still felt like working out so i did some extra abs.

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horse power is the worst tasting NO/Creatine combo... i had samples from the company and both flavors suck!:confused:

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I'll stick with WF and GM ;)

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I was told the flavor was awful, but that the results were good by someone at my gym. I would deal with the taste if it worked like WF.

Thanks Bro! Now, do I take the Taurine pre or post workout? :D

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both. ;)

as for taste that reminds me of VPX NO Shotgun tasted like regurgitated apple pie but the results at the gym were great.

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worked up to 8 sets of 315x2 at 1.23 m/s. Feeling pretty squirrely!!!! Finished up with some Glute ham raises, and some Single leg squats

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Sounds good, bro.

I, on the other hand, am a broken little unicorn. :( Once the popping in my right shoulder went away, I did 5 x 5 on the clock on flat bench. Skull crushers were fine. Went to do standing overhead presses and my right shoulder was a mess on rep one. Oy. Went and did some tricep pressdowns and called it a day.

I really need to figure out this shoulder thing. So here's my question to you sporty folks:

How would I go about finding a good sports doctor who (a) can effectively diagnose my problem and (b) will understand that I won't give up lifting in the long-run???

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ask one of the PTs at the Athletics Department or Decca... :D

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Mmmmmm ... Decca :dr :ze :r

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Oh, to be 20 years old again. :r

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I wish I started lifting 10-15 years ago, Admiral....

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I was it was 15 years ago, Dokk! :r

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if it is your RC try Cuban presses or Cuban roatations and use a light weight.

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you're an "it" ... I'll give you that. :r :D

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I tried some last night with a PLPC: lifts, presses, clips, lights. hydrated/dehydrated with rum.

oh wait ... I have a feeling that's not what you're talking about. :dance:

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Did a chest workout today consisting of nothing but weighted dips...got quite the pump. Now I will liikely take 2 days off before hitting the weights again Friday.

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:r snmart arse:fu

Cuban Press

Article on Cuban rotations

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Thanks for that second link, P-dogg. I think I'll start working some of those exercises in once or twice a week as PT. I like that I could do them traveling with something in my hotel room, too. :)

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yer welcome Dokk, just remember keep it light :tu

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I will do no such thing! :tg ;)

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2 scoops WF and 2 jet fuel pills today and didn't do a damn thing for me. Thinking about taking 2 weeks off of taking anything and see if that helps. Starting to piss me off

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:D only on the Cuban lifts the others the sky is the limit :tu
before you do that try 4 scoops I'm curious to see what it does for you, and scrap the jet fuel (whatever that is)

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sounds like you need to reset your caffeine clock. isn't it Taurine that does that?

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does what? (really am curious)

Mayo Clinic page with info on Taurine

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don't ask me. ask Gerry.... :)

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I would but he ignores me.

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taurine helps clean you the body's cell receptors to caffine...

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well i dunno what to do. I've been lifting fairly well...but no pump from WF or the combo of WF and jet fuel today. Maybe just need to lay off and cycle for a bit

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thanks Gerry, A hidden (to me) bonus to taurine :)

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maybe one of you gym rats can help me,my question is what do you find the best way to blast your biceps,I do dumbell curls cable curls,strait bar curls but just cant seem to get the pump i am looking for. the opposite is true for tri's as I can pump them into oblivion,any advice is appreciated...

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I don't have an answer for you; but this reminds me of my favorite weightlifting quotation. In an interview, Ed Coan was asked, "YOU DON'T TRAIN MUSCLES LIKE BICEPS?"

And his response was, "Nope, biceps are like ornaments on a xmas tree." :r

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I dont train biceps that often, but when I do I only superset stuff together. I get extreme pump. This is good because I can spend more time on the muscles that count!:r

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:r :r :r

:ze :ze