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kgoings 05-04-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kgoings (Post 1253746)
I let you know when I get tested again, not sure. I talked with the doc about what I ate, and he was pretty sure it was hereditary and weight related. I am trying to eat better...plus 1400mg of Fish Oil and 2400mg of Red Yeast Rice a day.

How can I forget! And a glass of Red Wine every night...and sometimes a second glass if I smoke a cigar :tu

Trying to not drink beer..even though I love it! :(

Starscream 05-04-2011 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kgoings (Post 1253859)
How can I forget! And a glass of Red Wine every night...and sometimes a second glass if I smoke a cigar :tu

Trying to not drink beer..even though I love it! :(

I would think one or two beers is better than one or two glasses of wine. Wine has more sugars, doesn't it?

I'm probably wrong, though.:)

Christiel49 05-04-2011 01:57 PM

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Maybe you guys can keep me motivated! I have got to loose weight, and always seem short on time to put in exercise.

Anywho, mine is directly related to hormones (shots). And Candy!

kgoings 05-04-2011 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1253882)
I would think one or two beers is better than one or two glasses of wine. Wine has more sugars, doesn't it?

I'm probably wrong, though.:)

Red Wine is supposed to be good for your heart and cholestoral. Plus I drink wine MUCH slower than I drink beer...I drink beer like water.

Chainsaw13 05-04-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Christiel49 (Post 1253886)
Maybe you guys can keep me motivated! I have got to loose weight, and always seem short on time to put in exercise.

Anywho, mine is directly related to hormones (shots). And Candy!

I'm going to sound like a broken record, but get some type of program to track your daily food intake. It'll help point out if you're getting too many calories and what kind (carbs, protein, fat). That'll allow you to make any adjustments.

Also, a good digital kitchen scale to portion out your food. I used to be a dump a little of this, add a bit of that type of person when cooking. Amazing to think I would eat 2-3 times a normal serving size of pasta. Now it's the 2oz or less and bulk up on the veggies.

Right now my exercise routine is walking 2-3 miles 4-5 times a week. Since making these changes just a couple of months ago, I"m down ~20lbs (55lbs since I started my journey). It's easy and cheap.

shilala 05-04-2011 05:33 PM

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Lisa saw this thread up here and asked me to tell you guys about myfooddiary.com.
It's a subscription service, and it does all kinds of stuff I wouldn't understand.
You can log on to it from anywhere, even from your smartphone (no app, but there's a mobile version).
It might be worth a look for you guys that track all these things, and definately for those who want to track their caloric intake, etc.

Chainsaw13 05-05-2011 06:13 AM

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245.6 this morning. Slowly but surely getting there.

shilala 05-05-2011 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1253882)
I would think one or two beers is better than one or two glasses of wine. Wine has more sugars, doesn't it?

I'm probably wrong, though.:)

To add to what Kirk said, lots of doctors suggest a glass of RED wine in the evening. They attribute whatever is in wine to the almost non-existant incidence of heart disease in France. It really is good for you on all sorts of levels.
Beer is not good for you on any level. That's why we love it so much. :D

shilala 05-05-2011 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1254420)
245.6 this morning. Slowly but surely getting there.

Well done, Bob!!! :tu

I went to 208.8 this morning. I was totally shocked. I figured that 209.0 was just gonna be here for a second, which was true, but then it came right back. That's usually a sign that it's going to stick.
I started this whole mess at 250, and made it to 185 only to go back to about 223, so we'll see how it goes. I'm cautiously optimistic.

kgoings 05-05-2011 08:49 PM

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Another day! Today was 'recovery day' RIIIIGHT mostly Yoga...that crap is hard!

I've been eating better, last night I went to Applebees and tried the guilt free menu, VERY good! And tonight I tried Taco Bells's diet menu..the Tacos were very good the burrito is filled with lettuce and tomato and not enough meat...all you tasted was tomato. Another friend at work is dieting too so we are going around trying the diet menus

Starscream 05-06-2011 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kgoings (Post 1255164)
Another day! Today was 'recovery day' RIIIIGHT mostly Yoga...that crap is hard!

I've been eating better, last night I went to Applebees and tried the guilt free menu, VERY good! And tonight I tried Taco Bells's diet menu..the Tacos were very good the burrito is filled with lettuce and tomato and not enough meat...all you tasted was tomato. Another friend at work is dieting too so we are going around trying the diet menus

Be careful with Taco Bell. Fresco menu is much lower in calories but still loaded with sodium.

Chainsaw13 05-06-2011 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1255414)
Be careful with Taco Bell. Fresco menu is much lower in calories but still loaded with sodium.

And not all that low in fat either.

244.8 this morning for a unofficial weigh-in (normal weigh in days are Thursday mornings)

Starscream 05-06-2011 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Christiel49 (Post 1253886)
Maybe you guys can keep me motivated! I have got to loose weight, and always seem short on time to put in exercise.

Anywho, mine is directly related to hormones (shots). And Candy!

Will do! Welcome aboard.:tu
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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1254023)
Lisa saw this thread up here and asked me to tell you guys about myfooddiary.com.
It's a subscription service, and it does all kinds of stuff I wouldn't understand.
You can log on to it from anywhere, even from your smartphone (no app, but there's a mobile version).
It might be worth a look for you guys that track all these things, and definately for those who want to track their caloric intake, etc.

Another site worth checking out is nutrimirror.com. It's free to use, tracks everything: calories, fat, fiber, carbs, sodium, etc...

shilala 05-06-2011 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1255419)
Another site worth checking out is nutrimirror.com. It's free to use, tracks everything: calories, fat, fiber, carbs, sodium, etc...

Thanks for that, Andy. :tu
I told Lisa and she's checking it out already.

shilala 05-06-2011 09:26 AM

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Oh, I meant to do my check-in, but I forget what my weight was this morning. It was under 210, so whatever it was, it was good. :D

I'm stoked that everyone is doing so well. It's nice to see it all going the right direction.
Kirk, it's a pain in the ass finding stuff you can eat. I deal with that every day. I've dealt with it so long, I just gave up. If I'm hungry, I eat some rice. Good thing is that I can have a candy bar whenever I want, as long as there's no nuts in it.
Yesterday I had two kinds of rice, a BLT, less than half of a burger, and two king size butterfingers, and tons of water and aquafina grape water.
Today I had a cup of coffee. I'm gonna go get a bottle of water and get to work. :tu

goalie204 05-06-2011 11:11 AM

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started doing the no/low carb thing again. It worked for me before like 12 years ago and i lost a lot of weight, but gained it all back. I'm approaching the end of the 2nd week and i've lost about 7 lbs so far, but i'm very unhappy because that was mostly in the first week, and now ive been stuck at the same weight for 4 days or so. I don't know if im eating too much salt, or if my body is just fighting the change super hard or what. I'm drinking a lot of water, and don't know wtf to do. I haven't given up tho.......yet ;/

Chainsaw13 05-06-2011 11:43 AM

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Keep with it Myles. Everyone usually sees that huge drop the first week or so. You're probably right about the body rebelling to the change. It's like, "Whoa, I'm not getting the carbs I used to, so better stock up on what I do get." But stick with it. Your body will adapt and you'll start to see the weight drop again. Just remember, you'll typically only lose 1-2 lbs a week on average. You may even go up. Just don't get discouraged as long as your seeing results over a period of time.

One thing Scott touched on was finding the right foods for you to eat. Unfortunately the word diet has taken on the wrong meaning in todays vernacular. You should look at your diet as a way of life, not just a short term change to achieve a goal. Find something you can stick to for the long haul, be it low carb, vegetarian, low-fat, eliminating processed foods, etc.

What type of exercise are you doing? I had sucess over the last two years and dropped 30lbs by just changing my diet. But in the last two months I added exerecise and dropped another 25lbs. And I feel a whole lot better. Was a great feeling to walk into the store and buy pants two sizes smaller.

Starscream 05-06-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1255627)
Keep with it Myles. Everyone usually sees that huge drop the first week or so. You're probably right about the body rebelling to the change. It's like, "Whoa, I'm not getting the carbs I used to, so better stock up on what I do get." But stick with it. Your body will adapt and you'll start to see the weight drop again. Just remember, you'll typically only lose 1-2 lbs a week on average. You may even go up. Just don't get discouraged as long as your seeing results over a period of time.

Bob speaks the truth, Myles. Don't worry about it, just stick with your program and make them habits.

shilala 05-06-2011 12:58 PM

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Bob is right on the money, Myles.
I did the low-carb thing a couple times. I lost a lot of weight. Put it all right back on when I quit because I went right back to my old Twinkie and pepperoni diet.

I remember reading that there's a period where your body switches over from burning carbs to burning fat for your daily energy. The outfit that made up the low-carb diet even sells pee-strips so you can see when that happens. You're supposed to use these pee-strips on a certain basis to see if you're still burning fat, or if your cheating is catching up to you, or if you're doing something wrong.

Anyways, you have to have a plan for when this is done, otherwise it'll work out just like it did before for ya, and just like it did for me. The beauty is that it really works, and the more meat you eat the skinnier you get (based on how they say your body uses more energy to burn meat than what the meat provides).

Good luck, brother. Learn to love veggies that grow above ground. That's all the low carb stuff (except corn which isn't good for us at all, I guess). Fortunately for me, I love veggies. I just selfdom eat them.

Chainsaw13 05-06-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1255680)
Fortunately for me, I love veggies. I just selfdom eat them.

:r:r:r

Starscream 05-06-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by market-stok (Post 1255670)
thanks

:confused:

shilala 05-06-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1255715)
:confused:

He's got an odd link in his sig. I sent the post in for the ToE to take a look. Yeah, it made no sense whatsoever.

shilala 05-06-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1255687)
:r:r:r

Lisa thought I didn't like veggies. Turns out that's why we never had them. :D

68TriShield 05-06-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1255715)
:confused:

bye bye to him. :)

shilala 05-06-2011 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 68TriShield (Post 1255806)
bye bye to him. :)

Good work, Boss. :tu

Starscream 05-06-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 68TriShield (Post 1255806)
bye bye to him. :)

Dave is on top of things.:tu

kgoings 05-07-2011 12:37 PM

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Keeping with it, I did eat a larger meal last night but I didnt go overboard. Today was probably the hardest workout so far. I started sweating much sooner and was soaked by the end.

shilala 05-07-2011 12:43 PM

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I bet that feels good, Kirk. Makes you feel like you're really getting the job done. :tu

kgoings 05-07-2011 12:45 PM

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Yea, I was wondering if that meant my body was changing modes from storing energy to burning it.

I am gonna do a weigh in on Wed. Tomorrow is 'Rest' day!! :wo

shilala 05-07-2011 12:47 PM

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You're probably right. At first your body was probably just confused, ya know? "what the heck is this guy doing to me, and what am I supposed to do about it?" lol

shilala 05-07-2011 01:02 PM

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Kirk, I asked Lisa (my wife) if she ever noticed what you were talking about. I figured she would cause she changes routines from the gym to running and back and forth. She said she didn't.
I noticed whenever I used to go to work in the heat, especially in powerhouses where it was super hot, it'd take awhile for my sweat machine to get going, sometimes a couple days. I'd be super uncomfortable till it kicked in, ya know?
Anyways, I asked just what you asked, and she said "prob-ab-ly". She just looked it up and found a quote that said "fit people's bodies cool off more efficiently."
So I think it's saying "You're on the right track, stud. Keep it up." :D
It probably makes sense that she never notices that halt in sweating, because she's super fit and never quits exercising. Makes sense.

shilala 05-07-2011 01:08 PM

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Just to get a triple dip in there, I was at 210.0 this morning. Andy so much enjoys my intestinal health reports, so he'll be glad to hear I worked out my bi-monthly all-morning poop today.
I started backing off two of my meds in hopes that I can get that normalized, and I'm taking small amounts of laxative in hopes that it'll help. When I see the doc next time, I'm going to ask to switch my pain meds, this stuff just isn't getting it done. It works, but it puts me to sleep all day, and I haven't pooped right for 6 or 8 months. I'm at my wit's end with it.

Chainsaw13 05-07-2011 04:25 PM

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I know I should'nt weigh in more than once a week, but it's hard not to when you see it going down. 243.2 this morning before my power walk. Did another 2.3mi in 34:11. Cut it short because I was feeling something in the plumbing. (There's another one for Andy).

Keep up the good work Kirk. I've had the precurser to P90x sitting on my desk for the longest time. I keep making excuses not to do it, especially now that it's nice out and I can get a good walk in. I should make starting it my next short term exercise goal. My CDE would be pleased.

Starscream 05-07-2011 07:54 PM

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Bob, that's the same weight as me.:tu
My mom and dad bought a bike for me at a yard sale this morning. I think I'm gonna put it to use tomorrow.
They got it for $20, but the owner (a doctor in town) bought it for some ungodly figure. It looks like a high quality racing bike (a Raleigh 12-speed) with some kind of straps and frames to lock your feet on the pedals. I'm gonna take those off before I attempt to ride it.

Starscream 05-07-2011 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1256314)
Just to get a triple dip in there, I was at 210.0 this morning. Andy so much enjoys my intestinal health reports, so he'll be glad to hear I worked out my bi-monthly all-morning poop today.
I started backing off two of my meds in hopes that I can get that normalized, and I'm taking small amounts of laxative in hopes that it'll help. When I see the doc next time, I'm going to ask to switch my pain meds, this stuff just isn't getting it done. It works, but it puts me to sleep all day, and I haven't pooped right for 6 or 8 months. I'm at my wit's end with it.

Bi-monthly? That must be a hell of a sh!t!

goalie204 05-08-2011 06:19 AM

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FINALLY BROKE THE CYCLE (hopefully) Not to be to graphic but i was running to the toilet a lot yesterday, and this is what i ate that broke my cycle and caused me a lot of pain! (it was lunch and dinner) - down another 2 lbs or so :D

and btw guys, the low carb thing i am doing IS a lifestyle, not a diet, carbs are useless for the human body (except those from some vegetables and leafy greens) unless you're very physically active. (and i sit at a desk all day) Also everyone is different, when two people eat the exact same meals, their bodies handle it differently. Pre-dispositions and stuff.

some are stuffed with pork sausage meat, and others with a mix of cream cheese, cheddar, fontina, and jarlsberg. Some wrapped in bacon some not

http://i.imgur.com/DyO31.jpg http://i.imgur.com/yW175.jpg]

Chainsaw13 05-08-2011 08:51 AM

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Those look really good Myles.

goalie204 05-08-2011 09:45 AM

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oh they were!

Texan in Mexico 05-08-2011 10:42 AM

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You guys are awesome! The all-morning poop out is a classic. I have been traveling for a couple weeks and did a weigh-in today. I feel so much better, lots of definition in the legs.

It is very dissapointing that I am still around 250 lbs.

I know the whole switch off between muscle and fat blah, blah, blah but it did hit me like a failure today.

I am still too heavy to jog so today began doing yoga like I used to - hope to bring the weight down with some more cardio.
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shilala 05-08-2011 11:42 AM

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I already forgot what my weigh-in today was. Must not have been incredibly impressive?

Those jalapenos look incredible, Myles. Don't take the "lifestyle" comments too far out of perspective. I think we were more talking about simply eating one plate of jalapenos instead of three, and getting some exercise. Maybe veering away from the really bad foods as a desire rather than a necessity, ya know?
I'm certainly not becoming a vegan hairdresser anytime soon. Just trying to do stuff that I always knew I should be doing in the first place. I'm doing it because I like feeling better, and I'd like to stick around a bit longer, God willing.
If that amounts to stopping at a half box of Swiss Cake Rolls rather than two boxes, that's a step in the right direction. I'd like to hope that it's heading somewhere, ya know?
I know I certainly can't live without pasta and rice, I love it. The pasta is what killed me on the low carb diets. :D

goalie204 05-08-2011 01:47 PM

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Once you don't eat carbs, you don't miss them, and i don't miss them at all

Starscream 05-08-2011 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 1256850)
Once you don't eat carbs, you don't miss them, and i don't miss them at all

I did low carb once and it worked, but I missed my popcorn, pasta, and potatoes.


Jalapenos looked awesome, Myles!:tu:dr

Chainsaw13 05-08-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 1256850)
Once you don't eat carbs, you don't miss them, and i don't miss them at all

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Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1256894)
I did low carb once and it worked, but I missed my popcorn, pasta, and potatoes.


Jalapenos looked awesome, Myles!:tu:dr

Same here as Andy. And pizza. That's my achilles heel. Finally broke down and had some last night for dinner. Tried something different for the crust to bring the overall carb count down. Equal parts (30g) of flaxseed meal, whole wheat flour and caputo 00 flour. Mixed with some salt, 1 egg and enough water to make into pancake batter consistency. Poured into 9" cake pan and par baked for 10mins @ 450F. Took out of the oven, flipped over the crust in the pan to let the other side crisp up, put on 1.5tbsp crushed tomatos, 2oz cheese and 1.5oz pepperoni. Put back in the oven for another 5-7 mins.

Overall, not a bad 1st effort. By my calculations, the overall carb count was 57 with 13g fiber, so a net of 44. The calorie count was high as well as the fat, but part of that's due to the flaxseed. But it has a lot of the good fats and fiber in it, so I"ll stick with that.

Found soy flour at the grocery store today. Next time I'm going to use that and cut back on the regular flour, plus use less water so the crust will crisp up more.

Chainsaw13 05-08-2011 05:21 PM

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Also Myles to echo what Scott said about the diet vs. lifestyle. Most people go on a diet hoping to lose weight and usually do, but then go back to their old ways only to gain the weight. What they fail to realize is it needs to be a lifestyle change. That's awesome you found low carb works for you. Keep up the good work and post some of your recipes if you don't mind. After being diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic, I"ve had to cut way back on the carbs. I limit myself to 150g net a day, less if I can help it. Been doing this for 2.5 months now and loving it. I eat quite well still, but just a lot less carbs.

shilala 05-08-2011 07:34 PM

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I quit taking my purple pills today and I finally ate. I just had a bot of this and that, but I didn't get sick and all the food was awesome.
It was an awesome family day, as it always is. :tu

goalie204 05-08-2011 07:47 PM

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i don't have recipes persay, i just do whatever ;P

Starscream 05-08-2011 07:48 PM

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Evening guys. I took a two mile ride on the bike today. Not much effort, but it was fun.

Starscream 05-09-2011 08:21 AM

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Another weekend of eating a bit much (not crazy or anything) and being lazy. I guess I can expect a gain again this week.:td


I know I've said it enough, but I gotta get back in my groove. Too many late night events lately with baseball/softball/school. Plus it's hard to get back into the swing of things after a week's vacation. I spent this past week half-assing everything.

Reading everyone's posts on making good habits is what I needed today.

Chainsaw13 05-09-2011 08:58 AM

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Yea, coming back from vacation is tough. You'll get back into the swing in no time.

Starscream 05-09-2011 09:58 AM

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Yea, coming back from vacation is tough. You'll get back into the swing in no time.

I've been back from vacation for over a week...:r


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