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Starscream 03-24-2011 09:08 AM

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Today's tip: Find a buddy to help you. Moral support and accountability are key.


http://www.webmd.com/diet/guide/choo...ght-loss-buddy

Starscream 03-25-2011 09:35 AM

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A good article on MOTIVATION:

http://gossipblower.com/2011/03/simp...ation/?amp&amp

Facebook can be your friend when it comes to getting motivated.

Fordman4ever 03-25-2011 09:47 AM

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at the beginning of 2008 I was 240lbs. Today I am at 186. I'm trying to get back down to the 165 that I was in 2007. not too far now.

Starscream 03-27-2011 07:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fordman4ever (Post 1216710)
at the beginning of 2008 I was 240lbs. Today I am at 186. I'm trying to get back down to the 165 that I was in 2007. not too far now.

That's awesome!:tu

Not an official weigh in, but I've been below the 250 mark for two days straight (249).:tu

shilala 03-28-2011 08:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fordman4ever (Post 1216710)
at the beginning of 2008 I was 240lbs. Today I am at 186. I'm trying to get back down to the 165 that I was in 2007. not too far now.

Well done, Earl. :tu

shilala 03-28-2011 08:16 AM

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216.6 today. I'm still stuck in a downward spiral. It's because we're working on a low-potassium diet for me. I'm afraid to eat anything, so I don't eat much of anything except high carb stuff like rice and noodles. I'm starting to learn what I can eat, so my "food I can eat" umbrella should start getting bigger. I don't think it'll ever get as big as "the food I can't eat", but it's an improvement. :)

piperman 03-28-2011 09:51 PM

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My wife and I started the "The food Lovers Fat Loss System" it is a way of life not a diet. What it does is it resets your metabolism to burn fat instead of storing it buy eating three meals a day which includes one protein, one fast carb, and one slow carb, and a snack in between you need to eat every two to three hours. So far it has done wonders for us. We have been on it for 16 days and can already feel a difference. My wife is diabetic and her average sugar level was 190 to 210 while on insulin, now it is running in the 90s. We will get to weigh on 4/3 21 days after starting. I was 180.

shilala 03-29-2011 06:25 AM

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It sounds like it's going great, Randy. Congratulations!!!
Heck, it's worth continuing whether you've lost weight or not, just for benefit of your wife's health, right? I have to admit, the first half of your post I was half rolling my eyes, especially with a name like "The Food Lovers Fat Loss System". That turned to amazement when you mentioned what it's done for you wife's sugar. That truly is amazing.
Keep it up, brother!!! :tu

Starscream 03-29-2011 07:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by piperman (Post 1219981)
My wife and I started the "The food Lovers Fat Loss System" it is a way of life not a diet. What it does is it resets your metabolism to burn fat instead of storing it buy eating three meals a day which includes one protein, one fast carb, and one slow carb, and a snack in between you need to eat every two to three hours. So far it has done wonders for us. We have been on it for 16 days and can already feel a difference. My wife is diabetic and her average sugar level was 190 to 210 while on insulin, now it is running in the 90s. We will get to weigh on 4/3 21 days after starting. I was 180.

Awesome news!
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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1220139)
It sounds like it's going great, Randy. Congratulations!!!
Heck, it's worth continuing whether you've lost weight or not, just for benefit of your wife's health, right? I have to admit, the first half of your post I was half rolling my eyes, especially with a name like "The Food Lovers Fat Loss System". That turned to amazement when you mentioned what it's done for you wife's sugar. That truly is amazing.
Keep it up, brother!!! :tu

Amen.:tu It's always cool to see the benefits other than weightloss.





I did 30 min. of strength training last night. I've had a great week and looking forward to check-in tomorrow morning.

Fordman4ever 03-29-2011 07:39 AM

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Chest day today. I put up 255 on the flat bench 3 times on my 4th set. thats the heaviest I've ever gone on flat bench. Feeling pretty good.

Starscream 03-29-2011 08:23 AM

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Today's tip: Get your mind right:

http://cltbiggestlosers.blogspot.com...d-luke-do.html

Texan in Mexico 03-29-2011 10:16 AM

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Good morning all, being part of a group definately makes this more doable. I just got back from a 10 day trip with many client dinners and hotel meals - smoked A LOT of great cigars however I am up to 254 this morning. I basically gained 5 lbs on my trip...

This is not good obviously however I am confident if I eat better and get out of the house at night I can remove this in a week.

Good luck to all and thank you.
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rebelknight 03-29-2011 08:28 PM

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Spring break was rough on me. I put 11 pounds back on in the 11 days I was home. However, since I'm a little crazy about my weight after working so hard to drop 90 pounds, I managed to drop 6 of them in the last 2 days. Only 5 more until I'm back.

piperman 03-29-2011 09:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1220139)
It sounds like it's going great, Randy. Congratulations!!!
Heck, it's worth continuing whether you've lost weight or not, just for benefit of your wife's health, right? I have to admit, the first half of your post I was half rolling my eyes, especially with a name like "The Food Lovers Fat Loss System". That turned to amazement when you mentioned what it's done for you wife's sugar. That truly is amazing.
Keep it up, brother!!! :tu

Yes that is the best part (good blood sugar), and allot of people are skeptical of it, but it just brings us back to the original food triangle and how to use it. A nutritionist explain it as your metabolism is a furnace and if you dont fuel it, it will go out. To me it is worth a try.
And for some dumb reason my cigar is blowing up and wanting to split

Starscream 03-30-2011 08:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rebelknight (Post 1221114)
Spring break was rough on me. I put 11 pounds back on in the 11 days I was home. However, since I'm a little crazy about my weight after working so hard to drop 90 pounds, I managed to drop 6 of them in the last 2 days. Only 5 more until I'm back.

Vacation sucks when it comes to maintaining a proper diet. Only 5 more? You can do that easily.:tu
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Originally Posted by piperman (Post 1221195)
Yes that is the best part (good blood sugar), and allot of people are skeptical of it, but it just brings us back to the original food triangle and how to use it. A nutritionist explain it as your metabolism is a furnace and if you dont fuel it, it will go out. To me it is worth a try.
And for some dumb reason my cigar is blowing up and wanting to split

You can't go wrong if you focus on the food pyramid.:tu



Official weigh-in today was 249. Lowest I've been in a year!:tu Gotta keep on keeping on and making progress. It's easier now that my wife is doing this with me.:tu

rgrecco 03-30-2011 09:39 AM

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Are there any Trainers in here who can help me put a workout program together??? I am 6'1'' 225#'s Average Build...

I am looking to loose some fat and bulk up... Because of my profession I am not looking to be under 200#'s... But if I can loose the fat and build the muscle I would be thrilled...

I really wanna do this but i currently just lack the motovation... I hate going to the gym because I DON"T KNOW WHAT I AM DOING... I need to go there with a set schedule and know what I have to do and get done...

I am a member of American Family Fitness... If you know the place its HUGE... 3 pools, Racket Ball Courts, Full size basket ball court, all the equipment in the world, and many classes (i am not into taking classes)...

Hope someone can help me out...

RON

Chainsaw13 03-30-2011 10:28 AM

Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1221433)
Official weigh-in today was 249. Lowest I've been in a year!:tu Gotta keep on keeping on and making progress. It's easier now that my wife is doing this with me.:tu

Congrats Andy. I've been somewhat following this thread, more of late as I'm trying to lose more weight myself. About 2.5 years ago I was around 295-300lbs. After my Mom passed, I made a decision to make some lifestyle changes. Cut way back on processed foods, increase fruits/veggies, less protein. Over the course of two years, I dropped ~30lbs and was maintaining right around the 265-270 mark. Then two weeks ago i was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. My A1C test came back at 249. Ouch! Since then I've cut back on the carbs, increased my veggie intake even more and bumped up my protein a bit. Big thing was finally getting off my butt and start walking. I do 2-2.5 miles 5 days a week. Last week I was down to 260.6 (God i wanted into the 250's), and I know I've lost a bit more since then. With the meds and the diet change, my blood sugar's around 120 now. I"m hoping to get down to 225lbs and hopefully off the meds.

Keep up the good work. :tu

shilala 03-30-2011 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgrecco (Post 1221563)
Are there any Trainers in here who can help me put a workout program together??? I am 6'1'' 225#'s Average Build...

I am looking to loose some fat and bulk up... Because of my profession I am not looking to be under 200#'s... But if I can loose the fat and build the muscle I would be thrilled...

I really wanna do this but i currently just lack the motovation... I hate going to the gym because I DON"T KNOW WHAT I AM DOING... I need to go there with a set schedule and know what I have to do and get done...

I am a member of American Family Fitness... If you know the place its HUGE... 3 pools, Racket Ball Courts, Full size basket ball court, all the equipment in the world, and many classes (i am not into taking classes)...

Hope someone can help me out...

RON

My wife goes to the gym almost every day. She does cardio every day, which you can actually do every other day. Then you do your upper body one day, then lowers the next. Or you can do your entire body on the weights one day, cardio the next.
Cardio burns the fat and builds enduranace while the weights build muscle. She asked me to tell you that free weights are far better for you than the machines.
Now, so far as cardio goes, she does the arc trainer (which is very close to the elliptical, and most gyms have one or the other or both) for 40 minutes. That's it. You could also walk the treadmill for 30-40 minutes, with intervals of high intensity/low intensity.
So far as the weights go, there are generally signs posted everywhere. Usually you can find a sign where you can get info to hire a trainer. That's not real necessary. The trainers at the gym will help. They'll go through all the machines with you and usually they'll give you a schedule/circuit to do that targets different areas.
If you just show up every day at the same time, you'll get used to faces and then simply ask someone who looks like they know what they're doing. Don't be afraid, they'll be glad to help, just catch them in between sets and be polite not to interrupt their workout. You may not get anything done that day, but they'll teach you, slow but sure. Then you can burn the rest of your time on the cardio machines.

There's a thread here that the muscleheads have, I thinking it's called "Pumping Your Buddy with Zemekone and Icehog3" or something like that. I'm sure someone can link it up if you can't find it. You can ask questions there, and the guys here that lift will help.

Okay, I think I've burned out my fingers.

shilala 03-30-2011 10:54 AM

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Oh yeah, I'm 220 today. I ate real good yesterday, and pushed some extra food in me on purpose so I'd move some meds out of my system. I was feeling particularly crappy for a few days. It worked good, I feel awesome today. :tu

rgrecco 03-30-2011 12:28 PM

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Thanks for the response Shilala... Congrats on your progress... Keep up the good work!!!

Starscream 03-30-2011 12:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgrecco (Post 1221563)
Are there any Trainers in here who can help me put a workout program together??? I am 6'1'' 225#'s Average Build...

I am looking to loose some fat and bulk up... Because of my profession I am not looking to be under 200#'s... But if I can loose the fat and build the muscle I would be thrilled...

I really wanna do this but i currently just lack the motovation... I hate going to the gym because I DON"T KNOW WHAT I AM DOING... I need to go there with a set schedule and know what I have to do and get done...

I am a member of American Family Fitness... If you know the place its HUGE... 3 pools, Racket Ball Courts, Full size basket ball court, all the equipment in the world, and many classes (i am not into taking classes)...

Hope someone can help me out...

RON

There are some people in the pumping iron thread that could possibly help you out with a routine:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...+iron&page=261

Lots of knowledgable people in there.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1221607)
Congrats Andy. I've been somewhat following this thread, more of late as I'm trying to lose more weight myself. About 2.5 years ago I was around 295-300lbs. After my Mom passed, I made a decision to make some lifestyle changes. Cut way back on processed foods, increase fruits/veggies, less protein. Over the course of two years, I dropped ~30lbs and was maintaining right around the 265-270 mark. Then two weeks ago i was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. My A1C test came back at 249. Ouch! Since then I've cut back on the carbs, increased my veggie intake even more and bumped up my protein a bit. Big thing was finally getting off my butt and start walking. I do 2-2.5 miles 5 days a week. Last week I was down to 260.6 (God i wanted into the 250's), and I know I've lost a bit more since then. With the meds and the diet change, my blood sugar's around 120 now. I"m hoping to get down to 225lbs and hopefully off the meds.

Keep up the good work. :tu

Congrats to you on the hard work! Keep it up b/c as you can see, it's definitely worth it.:tu

Starscream 03-30-2011 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1221636)
There's a thread here that the muscleheads have, I thinking it's called "Pumping Your Buddy with Zemekone and Icehog3" or something like that.

:r:r

Starscream 03-30-2011 12:59 PM

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Ronald, you might also want to try and give Shawn (Silverfox) a pm and he might can give you some info for a losing fat, bulking up routine. He had some killer success with that this past year.

shilala 03-30-2011 01:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1221724)
:r:r

Lol

Starscream 03-31-2011 08:20 AM

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Ronald, check out bodybuilding.com. There are a lot of routines on there that are good for beginners and pros.

Chainsaw13 03-31-2011 08:22 AM

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Bought a new home scale yesterday to track my progress myself. With the nearly the same clothes I had on at the doctor, I was 259. Seems pretty accurate compared to the docs scale as my last weight with him was 6 days ago.

My question is when do you guys take your weight readings? First thing in the morning? Sans clothes? I think for consistency sake, that's what I'm going to do. This morning i was 251.

Texan in Mexico 03-31-2011 08:24 AM

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Morning all - had a good day yesterday, didn't get home from work real late so now walking at night but set on it today.
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hscmit 03-31-2011 08:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1222697)
Bought a new home scale yesterday to track my progress myself. With the nearly the same clothes I had on at the doctor, I was 259. Seems pretty accurate compared to the docs scale as my last weight with him was 6 days ago.

My question is when do you guys take your weight readings? First thing in the morning? Sans clothes? I think for consistency sake, that's what I'm going to do. This morning i was 251.

It doesnt really matter as long as you consistently replicate the same situation (ie morning/ evening, w/ or w/out clothes). All you are looking for is an apples to apples type comparison.

Starscream 03-31-2011 08:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hscmit (Post 1222708)
It doesnt really matter as long as you consistently replicate the same situation (ie morning/ evening, w/ or w/out clothes). All you are looking for is an apples to apples type comparison.

:tpd: James is correct.

Chainsaw13 03-31-2011 08:49 AM

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That's the plan. Basically out of the shower in the morning, before I put clothes on (well, boxers anyway).

Very happy with my results so far. After my walk last night, i felt so good. Definitely the endorphine high.

Starscream 03-31-2011 08:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1222727)
That's the plan. Basically out of the shower in the morning, before I put clothes on (well, boxers anyway).

Very happy with my results so far. After my walk last night, i felt so good. Definitely the endorphine high.

Might I suggest before the shower? Unless you are completely dry, the water could variate your weight from time to time.

Chainsaw13 03-31-2011 08:53 AM

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I was thinking that same thing also. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.

goalie204 03-31-2011 10:40 AM

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you really shouldn't weigh yourself more than once a week or once every 2 weeks

Fordman4ever 03-31-2011 10:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 1222831)
you really shouldn't weigh yourself more than once a week or once every 2 weeks

:tpd:

Weighing your self every day is counter productive IMHO.

Chainsaw13 03-31-2011 12:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 1222831)
you really shouldn't weigh yourself more than once a week or once every 2 weeks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fordman4ever (Post 1222847)
:tpd:

Weighing your self every day is counter productive IMHO.

Yea, my plan is to stick to a once a week weigh in. Right now I'm just checking this new scale to see how it performs and if there's a lot of flucuation.

Starscream 03-31-2011 12:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 1222831)
you really shouldn't weigh yourself more than once a week or once every 2 weeks

My plan calls for once a week. But I agree that everyday weigh-ins are counterproductive.

Scottw 03-31-2011 03:43 PM

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I weigh myself every morning at the same time when I wake up, before eating or drinking, before a shower and au natural. Sticking at 197. Been a year at this point since I dropped from 250. I should work out a little more but my eating habits are pretty darn good at this point.

goalie204 04-01-2011 07:22 AM

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the average bathroom scale does not account for muscle. Since there's no way to determine how much muscle weight you've gained (and muscle weighs more than fat), that bathroom scale is just not accurate.

Seeing a lower number on a scale may prompt a subconscious reward. It is not uncommon for people to indulge in an extra fry or dessert thanks to slight weight loss. Of course, this only leads to weight gain, and then you will be right back where you started.
Disappointment may begin to set in, and this can lead to a lack of motivation. What happens when you've been following the best weight loss program, you are on track for healthy weight loss, and your scale doesn't reflect all of this hard work? Chances are that you'll become slightly depressed, and you'll quickly lose all weight loss inspiration. It takes a long time to lose a significant amount of weight, so don't worry if you aren't seeing results right away.
Weight fluctuates according to the time of day. If you weigh yourself in the morning, and then weigh yourself the next evening, you'll find that the two numbers are drastically different. This is due to the fact that a person's weight can fluctuate up to three pounds every day.

Weighing yourself obsessively can lead to an eating disorder. Most anorexics and bulimics are infatuated with weight. In fact, some people who have never had an eating disorder may become so obsessed with the numbers on a scale that this obsession leads to an eating disorder.

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shilala 04-01-2011 11:56 AM

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I pretty much avoid the scale unless I'm "trending". That's to say, if I start a plan, I'll watch to see if it's working, thencontinue said plan based on the results.
If I've slipped, stopped purposely, or changed meds, I watch my weight daily to make sure I'm getting enough food and water.
For instance, I just started a new med a few days ago. I should be watching to make sure I don't get dehydrated, but I'm not because I got the flu or strep or something. I'm just making sure I drink lots, which is what I have to do anyways. When I straighten out, I'll watch the trend again and then stop watching the scale.
Oddly, I know I'm really doing well when I'm NOT watching the scale.

shilala 04-02-2011 07:50 AM

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215.6. That's the lowest yet, and i otta admit, I'm super pleased. I'm very much looking forward to 200, and anything beyond that is gravy.

shilala 04-02-2011 08:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 424550)
216.2 this morning, 218.6 right now, all fed and hydrated.
I haven't seen 216 for 10 years.
I'd be even better, but I had a date for lunch and ate a crab cake and 5 glasses of lemon water. Ate all the green stuff, too. It was at Ruby Tuesday's, it was good, too. :tu
The date went real well, too. A chick my age. Too smart and good looking though. She's got way too much sense to get mixed up with me. :tu

Member this, Andy? It appears that crab cakes are the way to a woman's heart, cause I married this date. Turns out she weren't that smart after all. :r :r
I'm skinnier right now than I was then, which is great. Last time I proved it could come off, this time is for proving it can stay off.
I'm thinking at that point I had lost 35 pounds and before it was all over, I lost another 30. I'm gonna go check, I might not have gotten past 200.

Chainsaw13 04-02-2011 06:14 PM

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That's awesome Scott. Keep up the good work. :tu

Chainsaw13 04-02-2011 06:23 PM

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Since I've changed my diet a couple weeks ago, cutting back on the carbs, I'm finding I actually eating less now overall. I"m about 1800 cal/day, per the app I"m using on my phone to log my meals. Weird thing is I"m not that hungry. It's almost as if the overload of carbs kept fueling the hunger to eat more. Also what's helped is portioning everything out. For lunch today, I was out looking at property so I had to stop somewhere to get a bite. A 6" turkey/ham on flatbread from Subway was enough to fill me up. That would've never happened before.

Starscream 04-02-2011 08:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 1224783)
Member this, Andy? It appears that crab cakes are the way to a woman's heart, cause I married this date. Turns out she weren't that smart after all. :r :r
I'm skinnier right now than I was then, which is great. Last time I proved it could come off, this time is for proving it can stay off.
I'm thinking at that point I had lost 35 pounds and before it was all over, I lost another 30. I'm gonna go check, I might not have gotten past 200.

I remember that post, Scott.:tu Life is good! Glad she didn't have too much sense to not get mixed up with you.;)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1225053)
Since I've changed my diet a couple weeks ago, cutting back on the carbs, I'm finding I actually eating less now overall. I"m about 1800 cal/day, per the app I"m using on my phone to log my meals. Weird thing is I"m not that hungry. It's almost as if the overload of carbs kept fueling the hunger to eat more. Also what's helped is portioning everything out. For lunch today, I was out looking at property so I had to stop somewhere to get a bite. A 6" turkey/ham on flatbread from Subway was enough to fill me up. That would've never happened before.

I found that eating fruit in the morning (banana) and again for lunch fills me up for most of the day. Controlling hunger is the key, and it looks like you're on track.:tu

Chainsaw13 04-03-2011 03:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Starscream (Post 1225123)
I found that eating fruit in the morning (banana) and again for lunch fills me up for most of the day. Controlling hunger is the key, and it looks like you're on track.:tu

That's what I've been doing too, and yes, it helps fill me up.

goalie204 04-04-2011 05:33 AM

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what app?

Chainsaw13 04-04-2011 05:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 1225973)
what app?

Carb master on the Itunes store. $2.99 I believe. The food database is quite large, plus they have a lot of restaurant info too. You can also log your water intake, activity level, and blood glucose levels.

Starscream 04-04-2011 06:29 AM

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Not official, but down to 246 today. I bought NFL Training Camp for the Wii (part of the EA Sports Active brand). It's fun as crap but will kick your @$$ if you're not used to playing it.

Chainsaw13 04-04-2011 06:37 AM

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:tu Andy

Starscream 04-04-2011 08:02 AM

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Make your body earn/burn what it eats:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health...,0,75878.story


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