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Starscream 01-25-2010 08:26 AM

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Weighed in at 250 today. Only a pound less. I need to get more physical.:(

Scottw 01-25-2010 01:26 PM

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My pants are getting looser everyday it seems. I'm down about an inch and a half on my waist after 11 days of dieting and amazingly, I am enjoying the challenge. I cut out Alcohol, Salt and caffiene from the diet and am eating more veggies now than every. I make a few trips to the organic farmers market and stock up with fresh produce and am learning how to prepare some pretty great dishes. I'm going to try to lose another 7-10 pounds within the next two weeks.

CGARG1RL 01-25-2010 01:50 PM

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GOOOO Andy!!! I'm gonna be your cheerleader. But no pompoms ok? :)

I think it's awesome and you're on the right track here... change of lifestyle. The results may seem 'slower', but they will be results and they will last. No yo yo stuff. Just remember to change it up, especially with exercise. Like cycle on and off things.. key is cardio. .. eh, I'm rambling on what everyone else has touched on..bunch of smart peeps here!! :)

Good luck hun, let me know if I can help. (no I wont go running, to the gym, or cook for you lol)

Starscream 01-27-2010 08:51 AM

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Thanks Sondra.:tu

Looks like the only way I'm gonna be effective is to also cut out the alcohol. I know everyone else that has been successful has done so. My problem is too much whiskey on the weekends.:(

shilala 01-27-2010 11:48 AM

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I don't drink at all, Andy. Actually, when I quit, it's when I gained so much weight. Go figure, right?
I'm hanging at around 197 still. I haven't been drinking my water near enough and my appetite is all over the place. I'll be screwed up for at least a few more weeks until I'm done changing all my meds for my back.
I really can't concentarte on anything right now cause my meds have my head totally screwed up. I got lost in the living room a little while ago. :)
I've basically tied myself to the couch for the last week, and without exercise, even with nearly no food intake it's hard to keep things under control.
I'm not concerned so far as I don't start gaining quickly, and I'm not. I'm actually still losing weight or staying pat. Still can't get to the 185 I was at, but I'm not at all focused, either.
It'll take about a month for the new meds to smooth in and the old stuff to wear off, so I'm just gonna coast for awhile.
Fortunately my back is feeling better, and my whole spasticity seizure crap is under control. If the "Lost in Space" goes away, I'll be in pretty good shape come spring. :tu
I just gotta keep away from the shop. And that's driving me nuts. I can't do much of anything without screwing it up or getting hurt. :)

Scottw 01-27-2010 11:52 AM

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down from 239 to 224 in 14 days. Andy, cut out the booze and you'll see a difference. Looking back, most of my caloric intake came from alcohol and now it's coming off.

Starscream 01-27-2010 02:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottw (Post 736928)
down from 239 to 224 in 14 days. Andy, cut out the booze and you'll see a difference. Looking back, most of my caloric intake came from alcohol and now it's coming off.

I've been tracking it and around 15-17% of my intake is alcohol. Knowing that makes me feel like an alcoholic.:(

SilverFox 01-27-2010 02:14 PM

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Hate to agree with you Andy as it sounds like you enjoy your Whiskey as much as I my beer.

Unfortunately as I mentioned before Alcohol has a double whammy. The extra calories you don't need and how it is metabolized.

I don't think of it as giving it up.........only obtaining to reach a goal

Keep at it amigo nothing succeeds like perseverance.

Had my semi monthly meeting with my coach today..........seems I am ripping it up...........in his words "We need to get you to slow down a bit" I know what he is getting at not to keep my expectations that this rate of change will continue but for now I maintain the pace.

Good luck all.

shilala 01-27-2010 03:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverFox (Post 737133)

Had my semi monthly meeting with my coach today..........seems I am ripping it up...........in his words "We need to get you to slow down a bit" I know what he is getting at not to keep my expectations that this rate of change will continue but for now I maintain the pace.

Good luck all.

I lost 1.6 pounds a week for however long it took, Shawn. Then I just stopped. Ran out of fat. Now I have a little on the gut, but I lost it all on my back and everywhere else.
50 pounds of fat is a wheelbarrow full. Can't believe I was lugging that much extra around.
I tried to get back to working out by going to Physical Therapy, but it just exasperated my back problems. So I'm back to doctoring (not that I've ever stopped).
It's all coming together slow but sure.
Time takes time, brother. Be patient and listen to your doctor. Don't hurt yourself when all you need to do is be patient. Give your body time to acclimate. It needs it. :tu
It'll all come off. You're too stubborn for it not to. :)

shilala 01-27-2010 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 737116)
I've been tracking it and around 15-17% of my intake is alcohol. Knowing that makes me feel like an alcoholic.:(

If it's any consolation, Andy, I'm an alcoholic. You wouldn't make a pimple on an alcoholic's ass. That's a good thing. :)
Set it down for a bit and acheive your goals. Either that or find an alcoholic beverage without such a negative impact on your plan.
Once you're reached your goal, you'll enjoy and appreciate your whiskey that much more, I bet ya. :tu

SilverFox 01-27-2010 04:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shilala (Post 737230)
I lost 1.6 pounds a week for however long it took, Shawn. Then I just stopped. Ran out of fat. Now I have a little on the gut, but I lost it all on my back and everywhere else.
50 pounds of fat is a wheelbarrow full. Can't believe I was lugging that much extra around.
I tried to get back to working out by going to Physical Therapy, but it just exasperated my back problems. So I'm back to doctoring (not that I've ever stopped).
It's all coming together slow but sure.
Time takes time, brother. Be patient and listen to your doctor. Don't hurt yourself when all you need to do is be patient. Give your body time to acclimate. It needs it. :tu
It'll all come off. You're too stubborn for it not to. :)

Hell Scott were you talking to him........... I swear that is word for word quote what he said to me this morning.:tf

Starscream 01-28-2010 10:50 AM

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Well I said my goodbye to alcohol last night (for a while at least). I'll probably have some the week before Lent, but I'll abstain for now.:salute:

Scottw 01-28-2010 11:43 AM

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Good luck Andy!

Starscream 01-28-2010 02:06 PM

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I'm anxiously awaiting to hear Shawn's results for the end of the month. Almost here!:tu

kayaker 01-29-2010 02:37 PM

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Haven't had time to look through all the latest posts but here's my update.

After 3 weeks + in camp with active work I'm down around 10lbs.

Hope I can keep this up, and hope everyone else is doing well.
:tu

Starscream 01-29-2010 03:34 PM

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Ian!:salute:

SilverFox 01-29-2010 04:41 PM

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Good Job Ian.

Andy I think you will find that without the booze things will progress a little quicker.

I personally have never wanted a Guinness so bad in my life :D

Keep it up amigo.

Shawn

Starscream 01-29-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverFox (Post 740173)

I personally have never wanted a Guinness so bad in my life :D

I know the feeling, and it's only been two days.:hn

kayaker 01-30-2010 12:18 PM

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When I go to camp, there is no alcohol allowed. That helps, as long as I can keep myself from making up for it on my days off. :r

SilverFox 02-01-2010 08:16 AM

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Well it was a great month.

I lost 22.5 lbs in January. Would have been more but it was poker night on Saturday and I let myself have a few Guiness and damn if there wasn't hot wings there plus nachos with fresh homemade guacamole.

But right back to the grind. I don't think I can hit over 20 again this month my routine is pretty intense and to do that would mean close to a 2,000 caloric deficit a day for the month.

My expectations are to lose another 10 to 15 and keep up the good habits I have started.

My cardio is through the roof and I have reached the point where my legs give out before my cardio limit has been reached............not a bad thing but it means limiting my time for cardio.

My strength has been coming up very well as I continue with resistance training (weights). As an added bonus my lower back which has been phucked ever since my car accident two years ago has never felt better, I have been slowly adding more back exercises in to test it and make sure i don't overdo it and so far all is good.

Funny I look in the mirror and I don't have a clue where the 22.5 lbs went I look the same to me.............feel a hell of a lot better.

Starscream 02-01-2010 10:29 AM

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That is friggin' outstanding, Shawn!

Scottw 02-01-2010 11:21 AM

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Awesome work Shawn. I was 223 this morning down from 239 so that's 16 pounds in 19 days. Pants are looser, tummy's flatter, the "you know what" looks bigger, I like this!!
Haven't had a sip of Alcohol in three weeks come tomorrow but I think that is going to change next Sunday during Super Bowl.

Starscream 02-01-2010 12:25 PM

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You guys are killing me! Keep it up! I've only lost eight, but still working on it.
Good job, Scott!:banger

Scottw 02-01-2010 01:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 743305)
You guys are killing me! Keep it up! I've only lost eight, but still working on it.
Good job, Scott!:banger

No more Papa John's brother!:banger

Starscream 02-01-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottw (Post 743362)
No more Papa John's brother!:banger

Did that b/c it was free. Otherwise I'd never eat it. Sometimes money outweighs fitness and health.:td

Scottw 02-01-2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 743451)
Did that b/c it was free. Otherwise I'd never eat it. Sometimes money outweighs fitness and health.:td

Amen, I hear you on that my friend. You'll do great, skipping the booze is a HUGE step in the right direction.

Starscream 02-01-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottw (Post 743453)
Amen, I hear you on that my friend. You'll do great, skipping the booze is a HUGE step in the right direction.

I hate to say it, but I feel better, more energetic, lately that I haven't had any booze for about a week.

SilverFox 02-01-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 743757)
I hate to say it, but I feel better, more energetic, lately that I haven't had any booze for about a week.

Yup

I only had three Guinness and crappy food on Saturday night and Sunday I could feel it. Seems my body likes good for you food and no booze.

Good thing the cigars and pipe don't seem to bother me...............there is only so much a man can do.

Starscream 02-03-2010 10:34 AM

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No change this week.:td
I ate right and cut out alcohol, but only exercised on one day. Gotta step up the exercise...

Scottw 02-03-2010 11:02 AM

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Down another pound today. Andy, even if you can squeeze in 30 minutes of exercise it would help a great deal. I am doing 35 minutes on my elliptical after work and am going to move it up to 45 soon. I could only do 10 minutes 3 weeks ago when I first started. My future goal is to do 30 minutes in the morning and 45 minutes at night.

shilala 02-04-2010 09:11 AM

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195.4 today. :tu
Been drinking my grape water for the last week or two religiously. I sort of got away from it while I was sick and laying around all day and started packing on the fat again. Got up to 200.2 real fast and I wasn't eating anything.
It's a lot easier to put on weight than to take it off. :)

Starscream 02-04-2010 11:32 AM

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I'm down too! 249.

Starscream 02-04-2010 06:45 PM

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Under 550 calorie meals at Applebee's are delicious!:dr

SilverFox 02-05-2010 10:59 AM

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Fox Tip Time

So as many will know I am a somewhat obsessive person (in cigars, bikes, fishing, pipes, cameras etc)

I tend to research the hell out of stuff.

So here is the tip for today.

Get a Journal and keep track of your food intake. Now I don't necessarily mean weighing everything (I did until I was comfortable that I understood portion sizes) but actually recording everything that ends up in your stomach. Here is the quote from ScienceDaily

"ScienceDaily (July 8, 2008) — Keeping a food diary can double a person's weight loss according to a study from Kaiser Permanente's Center for Health Research. The findings, from one of the largest and longest running weight loss maintenance trials ever conducted, will be published in the August issue of the American Journal of Preventive Medicine.
"

This has been my personal experience as well. Seems that once you actually fully record everything you start to realize just where your calories are coming from. Hell I used to have 3 or 4 large Lattes a day assuming that they where a drink who counts that (ok naive I know but still)

I use this one and after trying a zillion things from spreadsheets to blackberry apps and iphone apps here is the one that I like the best. There are many out there but this one fits for me.

http://www.peterpauper.com/dealer/im...1593596705.jpg

http://www.peterpauper.com/dealer/im...596705.p88.jpg

I don't fill in every column anymore but I used too, now its just portion and I check off if its a fiber, protein, fat, or carb (or a mix thereof)

The fitness stuff on the page opposite is great.

I got mine at Chapters/Indigo or you can order it online at http://www.peterpauper.com/index.php

So far Feb is rocking............my pace has increased...............i suspect a plateau soon that I will have to push through but for now seems I am killing it.

Keep it up gents.

shilala 02-05-2010 11:45 AM

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Fox, I'm lazy. If I had to write anything down, I'd give up and go have a steak.
That's why I just carry a cup around. It's a passive persuader. If I get hungry and it's not time to eat, I fill it up.
That's about as involved as I'm willing to get in controlling my weight. Sad, but true. :)

Starscream 02-05-2010 11:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverFox (Post 748465)
Fox Tip Time
Get a Journal and keep track of your food intake.

I do this everyday. Food and exercise log. BorisTheBlade here at CA had a post about a website called nutrimirror.com. I have been using it faithfully since January 4th (everyday). I've mentioned this one a couple of times before in this thread, but I like it so much I'll mention it again.

It's free.
It's a great place to log foods (it has a huge food database, and if the food you eat isn't in there, they allow you to add it).
It takes a while to log all of your fnew foods and recipes into the database at times, but it's not too time consuming or difficult.
It's a decent place to log exercise.
There are many great and positive thinking people there.

I'm not a spokesperson for the place, but I like it enough to reccomend it to others.

If you are not using a food log or exercise log, I would highly reccomend you do so, whether you do so on paper or through any website.

Starscream 02-05-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 748534)
Fox, I'm lazy. If I had to write anything down, I'd give up and go have a steak.
That's why I just carry a cup around. It's a passive persuader. If I get hungry and it's not time to eat, I fill it up.
That's about as involved as I'm willing to get in controlling my weight. Sad, but true. :)

If the cup works (and evidently it has), keep it up!

SilverFox 02-06-2010 07:05 PM

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Looks like February is starting off in the same vein as January.

Weight is peeling off..............I am expecting to hit the wall soon but maybe it will hold off for another 20lbs.

Nothing but good nutrition and hard work but damn I feel good. Starting to see some definition in my arms so clearly the under all that fat there is still some muscle residing.

shilala 02-07-2010 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverFox (Post 750180)
Looks like February is starting off in the same vein as January.

Weight is peeling off..............I am expecting to hit the wall soon but maybe it will hold off for another 20lbs.

Nothing but good nutrition and hard work but damn I feel good. Starting to see some definition in my arms so clearly the under all that fat there is still some muscle residing.

Keep on rolling, brother!!! :tu
Even with all my broken stuff, I feel worlds better than I did.
For whatever reason, I find it's a lot easier to manage the weight when I feel good as compared to when I don't. My brain has as much to do with it as my body, I suppose.
The reason I mention that is that the steady loss really lifted my spirits, making it easy to be "as stubborn as a Fox." ;)
This thread is where I've tracked my progress or lack of it, and being involved with the brothers here has been a huge help. It's made the whole trip fun. :)
I'm down around 194. I have about 10 pounds to go. I expect that'll be gone by my birthday in early March. That'll be an awesome present!

Starscream 02-07-2010 07:54 PM

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I went down to 247 on Saturday, but after today I'll probably be back to 251 or more. I gave in to Superbowl eating...:hn

shilala 02-08-2010 10:56 AM

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I'm afraid to see what I weigh after the pile of stuff I shoved in my face yesterday. It was well worth it though. Had awesome eats at the superbowl party. :)

Starscream 02-08-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by shilala (Post 751980)
I'm afraid to see what I weigh after the pile of stuff I shoved in my face yesterday. It was well worth it though. Had awesome eats at the superbowl party. :)

:tpd::(

SilverFox 02-08-2010 04:45 PM

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Somewhat weight loss related.

A friend of mine won a contest. It is an all expense pair 4 day trip here.

Linky

Trip is worth about 10,000 give or take.

So he drops by yesterday and says hey I won this trip.....................do you want to go?

The weight loss related part is two fold.
- one if I had not been working out like crazy I would not have the legs to ski this kind of terran for 4 hours never mind 4 days.
- two my ski gear would not have fit my fat ass a month ago.

So I have to say that I have some new motivation for another month and a week :)

Starscream 02-08-2010 04:51 PM

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That is AWESOME!!!:banger:banger:banger
Have fun, Shawn!

shilala 02-08-2010 07:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverFox (Post 752373)
Somewhat weight loss related.

A friend of mine won a contest. It is an all expense pair 4 day trip here.

Linky

Trip is worth about 10,000 give or take.

So he drops by yesterday and says hey I won this trip.....................do you want to go?

The weight loss related part is two fold.
- one if I had not been working out like crazy I would not have the legs to ski this kind of terran for 4 hours never mind 4 days.
- two my ski gear would not have fit my fat ass a month ago.

So I have to say that I have some new motivation for another month and a week :)

I could come and ride ya, brother. You might wanna start working the legs, cause I'm gonna get heavy. :tu

Starscream 02-09-2010 10:43 AM

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Fat Tuesday is one week away. I'm gonna drink a good bit this weekend and then eat like a hog on Tuesday (I know I shouldn't but I'm going to anyway). Wednesday begins the period of fasting for 40 days. I don't do it for weightloss, but losing weight is a good side effect.:tu

kayaker 02-10-2010 07:07 AM

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Back from camp again. Done up there for now and don't know what's coming up next.

Lost another bit while I was up there. This gives me a head start over last year, so hopefully I can keep it off and more by the time summer kicks in.

pmwz 02-16-2010 12:42 PM

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i start with my weightloss tomorrow. stepped on the scale today and my weight is at 266,3.
goal is somewhere between : 187 + 198 lbs
i am using a software this time that keeps track of workouts + diet (first real diet in 5 years). i plan on working out a lot + need some recipe suggestions that are fast + easy to make (+healthy).
I want to post an update every weekend if i dont post on sunday please pm me

Scottw 02-16-2010 12:43 PM

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lost 23 pounds in my first 32 days of my diet. 20 more to go!

SilverFox 02-18-2010 06:28 PM

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Well I am ahead of plan for February too.

Workouts are getting tougher to keep up the intensity I am going to have to give myself a few days off here soon and let the ole body recover.

Food intake is good.

I have dropped two pant sizes since I started on Jan 1.................wish this f'n spare tire would start going away..........oh well Rome wasn't built in a day.


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