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Don Fernando 10-19-2009 03:31 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
I bought a nice fruit juice machine today, time to drink some vitamins

Starscream 10-19-2009 04:53 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 607435)
I bought a nice fruit juice machine today, time to drink some vitamins
Have you tried it out yet? I've always thought about getting one. It looks like fun.:banger

shilala 10-19-2009 05:17 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 607435)
I bought a nice fruit juice machine today, time to drink some vitamins
Ya. Linky?
I went to a place called "Pulp" while I was out in Ohio this weekend. They make healthy yogurt smoothies and wheatgrass and all sorts of feminine stuff like that. It was really good, I'm ashamed to say.

Don Fernando 10-20-2009 02:18 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 607635)
Ya. Linky?
Linky is in Dutch.

Andy, yes, I made some strawberry/mango/banana/apple juice the moment I came home. I made some banana/mango/apple/plum juice this morning.

Starscream 10-20-2009 04:48 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
I'm officially down to 248. :tu

goalie204 10-20-2009 05:24 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
when you juice your fruit you're losing all the fiber and most of the water soluble vitamins. Much healthier to just eat the fruit whole. And because you're using more fruit when you juice than you would actually just eat, you're consuming way more sugar which will spike your insulin levels and could leave you feeling more groggy and hungry later. For the same reasons, juicing vegetables while still not as good as eating the vegetables themselves, is better for you than juicing fruit :p

shilala 10-20-2009 08:27 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
187.6 this morning and I already had a cup of coffee.
2.6 pounds from my goal, 62.4 pounds lost. I backed my goal up to 175 or 180.
That's Andy's fault. :)
That'll allow me room to gain muscle weight and land at 185, where I want to be.
Plus I'll be ripped, and I'll once more be able to crush cans on my forehead.

shilala 10-20-2009 08:33 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 608377)
when you juice your fruit you're losing all the fiber and most of the water soluble vitamins. Much healthier to just eat the fruit whole. And because you're using more fruit when you juice than you would actually just eat, you're consuming way more sugar which will spike your insulin levels and could leave you feeling more groggy and hungry later. For the same reasons, juicing vegetables while still not as good as eating the vegetables themselves, is better for you than juicing fruit :p
Myles, I read this about five times.
If the juicer isn't an extractor, it isn't removing anything. If Ferdinand is throwing in the same amount of fruit he'd normally consume in a sitting, the only thing that could make it better is to add a carrot and a handful of spinach.
That'd decrease the sugars by volume (which, contrary to popular belief, are not bad for you) and increase beta carotene and vitamin K, which is also great.
I couldn't see Ferdie's juicer from the link because it required a post code, but a juicer by definition does not extract pulp or fiber. It's a juicer.
I'd just use my food processor, personally, because I have one. :)
I seldom eat fruit unless my daughter makes me, though.
I suppose I eat a lot more than I did a year ago, but it still isn't much.

Starscream 10-20-2009 09:14 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 608515)
That's Andy's fault. :)
That'll allow me room to gain muscle weight and land at 185, where I want to be..
It's always my fault.:D

Starscream 10-20-2009 09:38 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 608377)
when you juice your fruit you're losing all the fiber and most of the water soluble vitamins. Much healthier to just eat the fruit whole. And because you're using more fruit when you juice than you would actually just eat, you're consuming way more sugar which will spike your insulin levels and could leave you feeling more groggy and hungry later. For the same reasons, juicing vegetables while still not as good as eating the vegetables themselves, is better for you than juicing fruit :p
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 608518)
Myles, I read this about five times.
If the juicer isn't an extractor, it isn't removing anything. If Ferdinand is throwing in the same amount of fruit he'd normally consume in a sitting, the only thing that could make it better is to add a carrot and a handful of spinach.
That'd decrease the sugars by volume (which, contrary to popular belief, are not bad for you) and increase beta carotene and vitamin K, which is also great.
I couldn't see Ferdie's juicer from the link because it required a post code, but a juicer by definition does not extract pulp or fiber. It's a juicer.
I'd just use my food processor, personally, because I have one. :)
I seldom eat fruit unless my daughter makes me, though.
I suppose I eat a lot more than I did a year ago, but it still isn't much.
I think the answer to this question lies in what type of juicer is used. Some just squeeze out the juice, while others use the skin, pulp, and all to make juice.

shilala 10-20-2009 09:48 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 608574)
I think the answer to this question lies in what type of juicer is used. Some just squeeze out the juice, while others use the skin, pulp, and all to make juice.
I think you're right. That's what I was trying to say. :)
That's the difference between a juicer and an extractor. I use an extractor for making sketti sauce and jelly and so forth, and it pulls out all the skin and seeds and stuff.
I make smoothies in my food processor and don't lose anything.
I couldn't see a pic of Ferdie's juicer, I wanted to see what it does.
Regardless, I'm still not gonna eat banana peels and strawberry stems.
It's out of the question. :)

Starscream 10-20-2009 10:14 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 608585)
Regardless, I'm still not gonna eat banana peels and strawberry stems.
It's out of the question. :)
:dr:r

Don Fernando 10-20-2009 10:42 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
This one squeezes the juice out. But the problem is, I have to eat fruit but I nearly ever do. I do like to drink fruit juice though, so my nutrician said I could replace 2 pieces of fruit a day for 2 glasses of fruitjuice a day.

Nick 10-20-2009 10:47 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
I'm jumping on this late but oh well. I've lost about 40 pounds from my heaviest while still gaining muscle and strength. The hardest part of losing weight is retaining and actually gaining that muscle while burning the fat.

Starscream 10-20-2009 11:48 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick (Post 608676)
The hardest part of losing weight is retaining and actually gaining that muscle while burning the fat.
That's the trick. Gaining muscle and burning fat has to be done precisely.

goalie204 10-20-2009 12:33 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
I'd rather just eat the fruit, imo - cheaper too :P

Shaerza 10-20-2009 01:01 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Good to see you guys are all keeping up with this, and encouraging others to join in! :banger Keep up the good losses.

I am still managing to hang pretty steady. Have to check myself every now and then when I stop paying attention to what im eating.

shilala 10-20-2009 01:40 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 608836)
I'd rather just eat the fruit, imo - cheaper too :P
I'm in the same boat as Ferdie. I should eat it, but I never do.
I like peanut M&M's a lot better than fruit. :tu

Starscream 10-20-2009 02:26 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 608836)
I'd rather just eat the fruit, imo - cheaper too :P
Cheap is always good.:D

goalie204 10-20-2009 02:49 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 608976)
I'm in the same boat as Ferdie. I should eat it, but I never do.
I like peanut M&M's a lot better than fruit. :tu
If you juiced them...........................added in a banana, it could be a new health phenomenon - peanut butter banana "juice" - on second thought skip the juicer, put it in a blender with a bit of milk and 3 scoops of ice cream! Oh wait..this is the wait loss thread not the weight gain thread :(

Starscream 10-20-2009 03:09 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 609093)
If you juiced them...........................added in a banana, it could be a new health phenomenon - peanut butter banana "juice" - on second thought skip the juicer, put it in a blender with a bit of milk and 3 scoops of ice cream! Oh wait..this is the wait loss thread not the weight gain thread :(
I do something like this already. I make protein shakes in the blender with peanut butter and bananas.

goalie204 10-20-2009 03:43 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
ya but peanut butter m&ms thats like,...your shake on crack!

shilala 10-20-2009 04:17 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 609093)
If you juiced them...........................added in a banana, it could be a new health phenomenon - peanut butter banana "juice" - on second thought skip the juicer, put it in a blender with a bit of milk and 3 scoops of ice cream! Oh wait..this is the wait loss thread not the weight gain thread :(
I just got three 42 ounce bags at Walmart. I might make peanut M&M lasagna and skip the fruit. :tu

Don Fernando 10-20-2009 04:50 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
M&M's are out of the question for me.

Starscream 10-20-2009 06:21 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by goalie204 (Post 609193)
ya but peanut butter m&ms thats like,...your shake on crack!
:r Shhh! Don't tell anyone!
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 609245)
I just got three 42 ounce bags at Walmart. I might make peanut M&M lasagna and skip the fruit. :tu
:r
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 609296)
M&M's are out of the question for me.
;s

shilala 10-22-2009 07:15 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
188.0 this morning. I never thought I'd break that 190 barrier, let alone see it stick.
If I see 185, I'll be shocked.

forgop 10-22-2009 07:15 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Today's weight was 230.6, down 2.9 lbs this week and 7.8 lbs overall.

Thought I'd share a recipe with you that I REALLY liked and ate twice this past week. One of the best meals I've ever had. It's a weightwatchers recipe, but will work for any low calorie type of diet. The only difference is that my wife subbed the corn flakes for bread crumbs.

Southern-style oven fried chicken

POINTS® Value: 5
Servings: 4
Preparation Time: 15 min
Cooking Time: 20 min
Level of Difficulty: Moderate

Ingredients
1/2 cup(s) all-purpose flour
1/4 tsp table salt
1/8 tsp cayenne pepper
3 oz buttermilk
3/4 cup(s) cornflake crumbs
1 pound(s) uncooked boneless, skinless chicken breast, four 4-oz pieces
Instructions

* Preheat oven to 365ºF. Lightly coat an 8 X 8 X 2-inch baking dish with nonstick cooking spray; set aside.

* Combine flour, salt and cayenne pepper together in a medium-size bowl. Place buttermilk and corn flakes crumbs in 2 separate shallow bowls.

* Roll chicken breast halves in flour mixture and evenly coat each side. Next dip chicken into buttermilk and then corn flakes crumbs.

* Place coated chicken breasts in prepared baking dish. Bake until chicken is tender and no longer pink, about 20 minutes (there is no need to flip the chicken during baking). Yields 1 breast per serving.

kayaker 10-22-2009 07:21 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Way to go Scott and Duane!!!
:tu

Starscream 10-22-2009 08:02 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by forgop (Post 612037)
Today's weight was 230.6, down 2.9 lbs this week and 7.8 lbs overall.

Thought I'd share a recipe with you that I REALLY liked and ate twice this past week. One of the best meals I've ever had. It's a weightwatchers recipe, but will work for any low calorie type of diet. The only difference is that my wife subbed the corn flakes for bread crumbs.

Southern-style oven fried chicken

POINTS® Value: 5
Servings: 4
Preparation Time: 15 min
Cooking Time: 20 min
Level of Difficulty: Moderate

Ingredients
1/2 cup(s) all-purpose flour
1/4 tsp table salt
1/8 tsp cayenne pepper
3 oz buttermilk
3/4 cup(s) cornflake crumbs
1 pound(s) uncooked boneless, skinless chicken breast, four 4-oz pieces
Instructions

* Preheat oven to 365ºF. Lightly coat an 8 X 8 X 2-inch baking dish with nonstick cooking spray; set aside.

* Combine flour, salt and cayenne pepper together in a medium-size bowl. Place buttermilk and corn flakes crumbs in 2 separate shallow bowls.

* Roll chicken breast halves in flour mixture and evenly coat each side. Next dip chicken into buttermilk and then corn flakes crumbs.

* Place coated chicken breasts in prepared baking dish. Bake until chicken is tender and no longer pink, about 20 minutes (there is no need to flip the chicken during baking). Yields 1 breast per serving.
I love that recipe! I haven't had it in a while, but I use the corn flakes in it.
For those of you that have never tried this, do so. It' very good!:dr





Congrats, Scott! You're only three pounds away from 185; you'll see it before you know it.:tu

Starscream 10-23-2009 06:47 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Down to 247 today. Hopefully it'll stay down until the weigh-in next week.

Starscream 10-25-2009 02:31 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
245 today!

Starscream 10-26-2009 06:45 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Maybe it's b/c of my lack of sleep last night, but I went from 245 yesterday to 249 today. I know weight fluctuates at all times, but 4 pounds?!?

shilala 10-26-2009 06:50 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 617634)
Maybe it's b/c of my lack of sleep last night, but I went from 245 yesterday to 249 today. I know weight fluctuates at all times, but 4 pounds?!?
I gain/lose 5 to 7 pounds every day.
I'm 188.4 right now, if I weighed in this evening I'll have easily put on five pounds. In the morning, I'm back where I started.

Starscream 10-26-2009 10:49 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 617641)
I gain/lose 5 to 7 pounds every day.
I'm 188.4 right now, if I weighed in this evening I'll have easily put on five pounds. In the morning, I'm back where I started.
That's why I weigh in in the morning after waking up. If I weigh in the afternoon or evening, I'm always much heavier, which is why I assume the lack of sleep caused the big fluctuation today.:)

shilala 10-28-2009 08:21 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
185.2 this morning. .2 pounds to go. :tu
That's the first time in 13 years I've seen that number on a scale unless someone else was standing on it. :)

longknocker 10-28-2009 08:32 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 612036)
188.0 this morning. I never thought I'd break that 190 barrier, let alone see it stick.
If I see 185, I'll be shocked.
Awesome, Scott!:banger:tu

Starscream 10-28-2009 12:21 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Good news, Scott:tu

I'm going up up up...:hn

I'm eating right but the weight has increased over the last three days.

shilala 10-29-2009 05:47 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andysutherland (Post 617872)
That's why I weigh in in the morning after waking up. If I weigh in the afternoon or evening, I'm always much heavier, which is why I assume the lack of sleep caused the big fluctuation today.:)
Andy, I checked yesterday to see how much I gained over the day.
Yesterday morning I was 185.2. Last night I was 188.6. 185.4 this morning.
So the swing is about 3.5 pounds.
I've gained as much as 7 or 8 pounds over a couple day period, only to end up right back where I started a few days later.
I drink tons of water. Aquafina Grape water, mostly. I can tell when I get dehydrated by watching the scale, too. Today I'll be drinking a LOT.
I find that when I'm drinking coffee I tend to not drink my water, so I've cut way back on the coffee again. That seems to help. :tu

longknocker 10-29-2009 08:42 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
257 Today. As Long As I Stay In The 250's, I'm Happy! I Vary 10 pounds or so during the day, so I always weigh First Thing When I Get Up.:)

longknocker 10-29-2009 08:45 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shilala (Post 622329)
Andy, I checked yesterday to see how much I gained over the day.
Yesterday morning I was 185.2. Last night I was 188.6. 185.4 this morning.
So the swing is about 3.5 pounds.
I've gained as much as 7 or 8 pounds over a couple day period, only to end up right back where I started a few days later.
I drink tons of water. Aquafina Grape water, mostly. I can tell when I get dehydrated by watching the scale, too. Today I'll be drinking a LOT.
I find that when I'm drinking coffee I tend to not drink my water, so I've cut way back on the coffee again. That seems to help. :tu
Much Better For You, Too, Scott! I Don't Think Any Of Us Drink Enough Water. First Thing I Feel When I don't Have enough Water intake, A Big Headache!:(

shilala 10-29-2009 09:10 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 622491)
Much Better For You, Too, Scott! I Don't Think Any Of Us Drink Enough Water. First Thing I Feel When I don't Have enough Water intake, A Big Headache!:(
The swings are a lot smaller now that I've lost so much mass, too.
I've literally lost 1/4th of myself since this started. lol

Starscream 10-29-2009 01:55 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by longknocker (Post 622491)
Much Better For You, Too, Scott! I Don't Think Any Of Us Drink Enough Water. First Thing I Feel When I don't Have enough Water intake, A Big Headache!:(
I know I don't drink enough water on most days. I drink too many energy drinks (sugar free of course).


247 this morning. Hoping to see 245 by next weeks weigh in.

forgop 10-30-2009 03:35 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
I just completed week 3. I was down 4.6 lbs to 226.0, for a total of 12.4 lbs. I have 46 lbs to go.

Starscream 10-30-2009 06:26 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Good work, Duane!

I'm back at 249 again today. Ate a little heavy last night, but it was mostly veggies and rice.

kayaker 10-30-2009 07:01 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Not sure how I've been doing while in Sweden. Not too bad I hope.

Back home tomorrow and we'll see.

Starscream 11-03-2009 03:34 PM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Holding steady at 248 for another week.:(

shilala 11-04-2009 07:56 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
188.0 yesterday. I had 3 donuts for dinner and then made apple banana bread last night, which was freakin delicious.
I haven't hit the scale yet today. :)

Don Fernando 11-04-2009 07:58 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
just got back from the nutrician, she's very pleased with my progress, I am not because I want to lose more and quicker. But I lost little over 30lbs in less then 2 months, so I should be happy.

shilala 11-04-2009 09:48 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Fernando (Post 630943)
just got back from the nutrician, she's very pleased with my progress, I am not because I want to lose more and quicker. But I lost little over 30lbs in less then 2 months, so I should be happy.
You're doing great, Ferdie. :tu
It takes time. I lost at the rate of like 1.6 pounds a week for what seemed like forever. Now I pretty much bottomed out and ran out of fat to lose.
I've been back at Physical Therapy and working out and putting on muscle now, so I put on a few pounds.
If I can get ripped and land at 185, that's where I want to be.
Looks good at this point. :tu

goalie204 11-04-2009 10:25 AM
Re: Losing Weight with Andysutherland
 
You should be happy,DF. thats good! I am struggling, what kind of advice did she give you? I need to lose weight and dont know what to do.


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