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icehog3 07-22-2012 08:03 PM

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Tried the Muscle Marinade for the first time today. They recommended doing 1/2 scoop the first time, so I did a scoop and a half. ;)

Good workout, good pump, lots of sweat. Didn't make my heart race at all like some have described. I will put it in the rotation for a while and see how it fares in the long haul.

RobR1205 07-22-2012 08:39 PM

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I have been off preworkout supps for almost a 9 months now... anyone have any favorites or suggestions?

icehog3 07-22-2012 10:36 PM

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Rob, seems to me that somehow they depend on body chemistry. I have some that work for me, but not for my friends at the gym, and vice versa. That being said, the ones in my rotation that work best for me are:

Creative Labs White Flood
Nutrex Hemo-Rage Utra
USP Labs Jack3d

RobR1205 07-22-2012 10:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1685515)
Rob, seems to me that somehow they depend on body chemistry. I have some that work for me, but not for my friends at the gym, and vice versa. That being said, the ones in my rotation that work best for me are:

Creative Labs White Flood
Nutrex Hemo-Rage Utra
USP Labs Jack3d

Good point, I've been asking around and trying to see which names and brands come up frequently. From there, I can begin experimenting with some narrowed down choices to see what i like the best. Thanks for the advice! :tu

icehog3 07-22-2012 10:53 PM

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Hope any of the ones I recommended work for you if you try them. :)

Angry_Pirate 07-22-2012 10:54 PM

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Nitric oxide has always worked well for me it works well stacked with creatine but I prefer it without the creatine. The original N02 by MRI is great but pricey. I use the GNC powder much cheaper and more servings per container. Gives a great pump!

Adriftpanda 07-23-2012 05:36 PM

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Took too much N'Sane today, the scoops are big already but decided to take an extra scoop and damn did it did wonders.

Been switching from that and Jack 3D and from time to time using 1MR.

Chest/abs today.

Super sets: Incline DB press 4x10 - Incline DB flys

Flat DB press 4x10

Pec dec 4x12,10,8,8 with rest pause.

Adriftpanda 07-24-2012 04:30 PM

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Back day, gawd it sucked.

Been doing a lot of negatives and I love it.

Ender 07-24-2012 05:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriftpanda (Post 1686755)
Back day, gawd it sucked.

Been doing a lot of negatives and I love it.

Did back day also....it also sucked. The only negatives today were in my attitude. Almost skipped shrugs I was so tired. Super set with abs too. I hate doing ab work but now that I've been doing abs more consistently, though, I've gotta say...still hate ab work.

GreekGodX 07-26-2012 08:59 AM

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http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...X/dar-add1.jpg
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area51 07-26-2012 11:59 PM

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Lets rant for a minute. A co-worker is always coming to me for advice on lifting, actually before I go there this cat is over weight and fails to acknowledge that his eating habits are horrible at best. Anyway he's always coming to me talking about the newest supplement he's trying but refuses to go to the gym unless someone is pushing him to do so. After his lack of gains wants to tell me about how hit routine isn't working and he needs supplement x,y,z when really all he needs is a solid diet and needs to actually go to the gym. Stacking protein with a thermogenic is pretty counter productive when your already 10lbs over weight. I don't even know how to address him anymore without flat out saying, your doing it wrong bro.

icehog3 07-27-2012 12:30 AM

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Tell him that, Ken, maybe it will give him the push he needs.

Took today off to let my lower back loosen up, skating tonight helped. I may take one more day off, I have another game tomorrow...hoping if I do, it will be near 100% by Saturday.

mosesbotbol 07-27-2012 07:20 AM

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I would always put routine and dedication over suppliments and science. Weight lifting is about... lifting weights; not powder shakes. Not saying they don't play a part, but that is not the main course - so to speak.

icehog3 07-27-2012 10:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 1687993)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...hog3/squat.jpg

Ender 07-27-2012 04:42 PM

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Gross. Her calves are bigger than my thighs...yes I have skinny legs. I'm working on that.

icehog3 07-27-2012 04:43 PM

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Gross?

Oh, Andrew....maybe we can help you out at the Shack. :r

Ender 07-27-2012 07:39 PM

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Well, more so the thighs. Thighs that huge are not attractive to me. Her's are way too....unfeminine.

TNT009 07-27-2012 09:00 PM

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That gal was sexy no ways about it, crush me, please!

mosesbotbol 07-27-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TNT009 (Post 1689464)
That gal was sexy no ways about it, crush me, please!

She's way over the top hot...

GreekGodX 07-30-2012 08:25 PM

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For those that want to get Jack3d for $13.95 shipped.
http://slickdeals.net/f/4948012-Jack...-Eversave-Deal

Looks like there is a bit of work involved but seems worth it.

icehog3 07-30-2012 11:38 PM

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Thank you, Christos! Took a few minutes, but what a great price. :D

Stephen 08-01-2012 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1691241)
Thank you, Christos! Took a few minutes, but what a great price. :D

Ditto. I picked up a canister, as did my parents (for me). Pretty sweet deal, basically getting two canisters for the price of one, especially since they're quickly going to be hard to find. I need to get my arse in gear and start stockpiling some of this stuff.

massphatness 08-03-2012 09:31 AM

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Why I don't lift ...

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/wg...aehyouk-sa.jpg

icehog3 08-03-2012 01:21 PM

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Bummer. :eek:

Stephen 08-03-2012 02:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by massphatness (Post 1693526)
Why I don't lift ...

That's the only reason? ;)

massphatness 08-03-2012 06:57 PM

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That plus my supreme fatness.

And I'm a teencie bit lazy.
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jdakine 08-11-2012 03:29 AM

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After years of not going to the gym, Monday was my first day back. Started eating low fat foods to help manage gout 4 weeks ago and have lost 10 lbs so far and no gout issues so far.

icehog3 08-11-2012 07:58 AM

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Good deal, Jay! Good luck with the workouts!

jdakine 08-11-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1698055)
Good deal, Jay! Good luck with the workouts!

Mahalo Tom :)

Adriftpanda 08-14-2012 06:10 PM

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Leg day today, leg days are the worse.

RobR1205 08-14-2012 07:47 PM

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Ran the PFE (Physical Fitness Evaluation) today, which consists of push ups, sit ups, and and mile and a half run. Gave it my all, but now I'm exhausted!

Ender 08-24-2012 11:20 PM

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Sooo, a bacon cheese burger, chili cheese fries and a milk shake 20 minutes before the chest day at the gym....not a good idea.

icehog3 08-25-2012 02:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ender (Post 1705286)
Sooo, a bacon cheese burger, chili cheese fries and a milk shake 20 minutes before the chest day at the gym....not a good idea.

No blood left for your pecs, it was all in your stomach digesting that feast. :r

Heavy back day today, weighted pulls ups, bent over rows to 315, and heavy cable rows.....and no fries before or after. ;)

Adriftpanda 08-25-2012 05:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1705307)
No blood left for your pecs, it was all in your stomach digesting that feast. :r

Heavy back day today, weighted pulls ups, bent over rows to 315, and heavy cable rows.....and no fries before or after. ;)

Wow that's fuggin insane brother. PED doing the trick :tu

Heavy shoulder day today. Started doing the "Four Up Four Down" program off Flexonline.com (last week of it) and I saw a huge improvement all around. Shoulders and legs especially. 6 rep max was 80lb DB press and now I'm up to 90lb DB press. 6 rep max for squat went from 315 to 350.

icehog3 08-25-2012 09:07 AM

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Nice gains, Huy....gotta love legal PEDs. :)

jdakine 08-25-2012 11:10 AM

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Completed my 3rd week of going back into the gym, taking it slow and easy at this point. Moving up real slow as not to trigger old injury in my left elbow. I have lost a solid 15 lbs so far, so far so good:)

Adriftpanda 08-25-2012 11:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1705391)
Nice gains, Huy....gotta love legal PEDs. :)

Thanks brother. Damn I miss 3-1 dimeth. products though. I should have stocked up.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jdakine (Post 1705446)
Completed my 3rd week of going back into the gym, taking it slow and easy at this point. Moving up real slow as not to trigger old injury in my left elbow. I have lost a solid 15 lbs so far, so far so good:)

Very Nice, Jay. Keep up the work.

Ender 08-25-2012 05:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1705307)
No blood left for your pecs, it was all in your stomach digesting that feast. :r

It was back day. And it sucked. Bent over rows were not my friend. It could have been worse though...the local brewery down the street from the burger joint was calling my name.

Stephen 08-25-2012 05:53 PM

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I was running low on a few supplements so I stocked up. When things started showing up I laughed and called myself a meathead. Snapped a photo of what all arrived on one day last week because of the absurdity (and no, more stuff showed up later that week :r).
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7121/7...0507f805_c.jpg

jdakine 08-25-2012 07:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriftpanda (Post 1705326)
Wow that's fuggin insane brother. PED doing the trick :tu

Heavy shoulder day today. Started doing the "Four Up Four Down" program off Flexonline.com (last week of it) and I saw a huge improvement all around. Shoulders and legs especially. 6 rep max was 80lb DB press and now I'm up to 90lb DB press. 6 rep max for squat went from 315 to 350.

Nice gains Huy, keep up the good work :tu

Adriftpanda 08-28-2012 03:38 PM

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Leg days are the worst. Lunges = hell.

Ender 08-28-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Adriftpanda (Post 1707119)
Leg days are the worst. Lunges = hell.

I agree. But if there's anyone here that can't afford to miss them its me.

zemekone 08-28-2012 09:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriftpanda (Post 1707119)
Leg days are the worst. Lunges = hell.

i love leg day!
Squat
1x5@ 60% 1 rep max
1x3@ 70% 1 rep max
1x1@ 85% 1 rep max
Good mornings 5x10-15
Legpress 5x10-15
Box jumps 2x10
Hanging leg raises 5x10
cardio:
treadmill 10mph 10% incline 9 sets of 15sec after each set make sure you bring your heartrate back to 120bpm

hammondc 08-29-2012 01:47 PM

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Ideas for dumbbell/bodyweight exercises to develop lower chest? I am already doing the following chest circuit X 3, but feel most of the burn in upper chest and top/outer edge of the pectoralis. I do not want to turn out like the freaks with pointy pecs.

Standard Pushup x 30
Incline bench - 45lb dumbell X 10
Wide pushup X 30
Flat Bench - 45lb dumbell X 10
Flat bench dumbell Flys

I need to get those 50LB Dumbells.

mosesbotbol 08-29-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hammondc (Post 1707710)
Ideas for dumbbell/bodyweight exercises to develop lower chest?

How about dips where you concentrate on the angle of your torso to handles; honing in on the chest more than the tri's?

Decline presses are the most common lower chest exercise, but I am not fan of them.

hammondc 08-29-2012 01:54 PM

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I am working out at home, so I do not have parallel bars. I may try the kitchen counter. I am not a fan of declines either. I always slide down the bench.



Nope....kitchen counter wont work. No room to lean in.

icehog3 08-29-2012 02:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol (Post 1707714)
How about dips where you concentrate on the angle of your torso to handles; honing in on the chest more than the tri's?

Decline presses are the most common lower chest exercise, but I am not fan of them.

Agree on both counts....Used to do dips between a washer and a dryer in college when that's all I had.

hammondc 08-29-2012 02:24 PM

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I guess I need to find a place to do dips then.

hammondc 08-29-2012 03:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1705599)
I was running low on a few supplements so I stocked up. When things started showing up I laughed and called myself a meathead. Snapped a photo of what all arrived on one day last week because of the absurdity (and no, more stuff showed up later that week :r).
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7121/7...0507f805_c.jpg

Nice haul. What do do you think of the Hydro Whey? I am using GNC Wheybolic Extreme right now. May try something else as the price just went up $7 for 3lb.

DBall 08-29-2012 04:11 PM

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First day with a personal trainer... learned a few new things (one of which being that close grip presses and EMOM gasses you QUICK). Cool stuff, but I wouldn't want to do them without a spotter because it seems easy to get stuck.


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