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kjd2121 03-29-2011 09:29 AM

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OHP - Top set should be 125x6-2-2-2
Incline DB Bench - Top set 75x8
Dips - 4 sets - bodyweightx8-10
Curls - Top set 85x6-2-2-2

Trying to add weight each week

Legs tomorrow - Uggghhhh

bonjing 03-30-2011 08:51 AM

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Shoulders
dumbbell presses
flys
reverse pecdeck

Tri's
frenchpress
close grip bench
one arms cable pull downs

rgrecco 03-30-2011 01:25 PM

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I am hopeing someone in here can help me put a workout program together??? I am 6'1'' 225#'s Average Build...

I am looking to loose some fat and bulk up... Because of my profession I am not looking to be under 200#'s... But if I can loose the fat and build the muscle I would be thrilled...

I also need to work on Cardio Endurance...

I really wanna do this but i currently just lack the motovation... I hate going to the gym because I DON"T KNOW WHAT I AM DOING... I need to go there with a set schedule and know what I have to do and get done...

I am a member of American Family Fitness... If you know the place its HUGE... 3 pools, Racket Ball Courts, Full size basket ball court, all the equipment in the world, and many classes (i am not into taking classes)...

Hope someone can help me out...

RON

icehog3 03-30-2011 01:37 PM

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Ron, probably be a lot easier to have a trainer or someone in your area show you how to use the equipment and set up a program....tough to do over the net.

I do think you will have to concentrate on the cardio and diet at the beginning, tough to lose fat without a combination of both. You can put on some muscle and lose fat at the same time, but the fat loss should be the focus at first.

bonjing 03-31-2011 11:19 AM

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Great, so about a week ago I get this numbing/pinching sensation going down my right arm, found out last night I have a pinched nerve in my neck that's causing this. Dr. said to cut back on the lifting as it may cause aggravation to the nerve and just focus on the cardio.

Bleh.

And to top it all off all I got was 800mg of ibuprofen 3 times a day to help with the inflammation.

Lear31MX 03-31-2011 11:21 AM

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Morning Guys, I look around this thread from time to time but never post in it so here I go. Any of you ever use those chains that go on the bench press bar. I tried it for the first time this morning and was not that impressed. just wondering if any one uses them on a reagular baises and have good results?

Chainsaw13 03-31-2011 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bonjing (Post 1222880)
Great, so about a week ago I get this numbing/pinching sensation going down my right arm, found out last night I have a pinched nerve in my neck that's causing this. Dr. said to cut back on the lifting as it may cause aggravation to the nerve and just focus on the cardio.

Bleh.

And to top it all off all I got was 800mg of ibuprofen 3 times a day to help with the inflammation.

Use a hot compress on your neck for 10-15 a couple times a day to help loosen up the muscles in that area. Also if it doesn't hurt too much, do some neck stretches. As far as you can rotate, turn your head to the left and hold for 30 seconds. Do the same to the right and repeat 5 times. Another one to try is tilt your head to the left and right, like youre trying touch your ear to your shoulder. Again hold for 30 seconds each time.

This helped me get through three herniated discs and pinched nerves last year.

mosesbotbol 03-31-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1221767)
Ron, probably be a lot easier to have a trainer or someone in your area show you how to use the equipment and set up a program....tough to do over the net.

:tpd:

icehog3 03-31-2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lear31MX (Post 1222884)
Morning Guys, I look around this thread from time to time but never post in it so here I go. Any of you ever use those chains that go on the bench press bar. I tried it for the first time this morning and was not that impressed. just wondering if any one uses them on a reagular baises and have good results?

Big Frank may use a reasonable facsimile, he would be the one here to ask. :)

bonjing 03-31-2011 02:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chainsaw13 (Post 1222899)
Use a hot compress on your neck for 10-15 a couple times a day to help loosen up the muscles in that area. Also if it doesn't hurt too much, do some neck stretches. As far as you can rotate, turn your head to the left and hold for 30 seconds. Do the same to the right and repeat 5 times. Another one to try is tilt your head to the left and right, like youre trying touch your ear to your shoulder. Again hold for 30 seconds each time.

This helped me get through three herniated discs and pinched nerves last year.

Thanks for the tip! :tu

kjd2121 03-31-2011 03:06 PM

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Yesterday I hit my legs:

Squats -
185x6
225x6
255x6
285x4
315x6-2-2-2 -total of 12 with 1 min rest between last clusters

Seated Calf Press -
365x6
415x6
465x6
515x6
565x6
645x6-2-2-2 -total of 12 with 1 min rest between last clusters

Rack Pulls -
135x6
225x6
275x6
315x5
350x6

Will be super sore tomorrow, but this happens weekly.

bonjing 04-01-2011 09:02 AM

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A little bicep and back this morning.

Fordman4ever 04-01-2011 09:06 AM

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Arm day today. Biceps are super sore already.

GreekGodX 04-01-2011 09:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lear31MX (Post 1222884)
Morning Guys, I look around this thread from time to time but never post in it so here I go. Any of you ever use those chains that go on the bench press bar. I tried it for the first time this morning and was not that impressed. just wondering if any one uses them on a reagular baises and have good results?

I have before and I wish I still had chains to use. I relally like using them as it is a way to add resistance to the concentric part of your lift. I'm just confused as to what you were expecting from using the chains?

Lear31MX 04-01-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 1223871)
I have before and I wish I still had chains to use. I relally like using them as it is a way to add resistance to the concentric part of your lift. I'm just confused as to what you were expecting from using the chains?

I guess I wasn't expecting much, my thinking was on the way down it would get lighter and on the way up it would get harder. I really didn't feel a big diff. I was wondering the if it was something that had better results over long term or it was just adding a new element to the work out. I don't know I'll just add more weight to the bar :D

Patrick B 04-01-2011 11:32 AM

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Legs in an hour. Still loving the smith machine squats. I've never been able to do a decent looking regular squat. I have super tight calves that don't allow me to go down very far unless I use the smith machine so I can throw my feet forward a tad. I'm not overly concerned about doing regular squats, should I be for better growth?

GreekGodX 04-01-2011 11:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lear31MX (Post 1223969)
I guess I wasn't expecting much, my thinking was on the way down it would get lighter and on the way up it would get harder. I really didn't feel a big diff. I was wondering the if it was something that had better results over long term or it was just adding a new element to the work out. I don't know I'll just add more weight to the bar :D

Maybe you weren't using big enough chains? The point is to help with your lockouts and it works your triceps more. IMO chains and bands can definitely help make improvements. You just need to use them in the right ways in addition to your training.

Lear31MX 04-01-2011 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GreekGodX (Post 1224086)
Maybe you weren't using big enough chains? The point is to help with your lockouts and it works your triceps more. IMO chains and bands can definitely help make improvements. You just need to use them in the right ways in addition to your training.

Cool thanks, the chains at my gym are maybe 10 lbs each, didn't know it would help with the lock out, and who doesn't want bigger triceps:D

kjd2121 04-01-2011 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick B (Post 1224067)
Legs in an hour. Still loving the smith machine squats. I've never been able to do a decent looking regular squat. I have super tight calves that don't allow me to go down very far unless I use the smith machine so I can throw my feet forward a tad. I'm not overly concerned about doing regular squats, should I be for better growth?

Doing regular squats will recruit more of your CNS(central nervous system) which in turn will tell you whole body to grow. You will also be using more hammies and glutes if doing low bar back squats. The Smith will use more of your quads when throwing your legs out.

I love low bar back squats - develops the whole back chain. Smith will isolate more. Also, the Smith is for pussies :)

Check out Mark Rippetoe on youtube for more info.

Patrick B 04-01-2011 08:45 PM

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I'm working on rolling out my calves and loosening them up. I'd do regular squats if they did any good. With my awesome form they are basically a good morning/squat hybrid, and I don't think it's good for my back or my legs to do them that way. I do plenty of deads so stick it up your ass, pussbag! :) Ha Ha, all in good fun...

Might take a day off tomorrow. It's been 5 or 6 days straight with my current 4 day split of chest/tri, back/bi, shoulders, legs. Also thinking of going to a 5 day, maybe chest, back/calves, shoulders, bi's/tri's, legs. I'm REALLY focused right now on hitting it hard, eating a ton of protein, and getting bigger. Thoughts?

PeteSB75 04-03-2011 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick B (Post 1224571)
I'm working on rolling out my calves and loosening them up. I'd do regular squats if they did any good. With my awesome form they are basically a good morning/squat hybrid, and I don't think it's good for my back or my legs to do them that way. I do plenty of deads so stick it up your ass, pussbag! :) Ha Ha, all in good fun...

Might take a day off tomorrow. It's been 5 or 6 days straight with my current 4 day split of chest/tri, back/bi, shoulders, legs. Also thinking of going to a 5 day, maybe chest, back/calves, shoulders, bi's/tri's, legs. I'm REALLY focused right now on hitting it hard, eating a ton of protein, and getting bigger. Thoughts?

so just curious, how are you able to dead, but not squat? Unless you are doing stiff-legged deads, you should be getting as low or lower at the beginning and end of a dead as you do at the middle of a squat. Once you start doing squats and doing them properly, they will stretch all the necessary muscles out through the warm-up sets.

Anyway, last week was deloading for me, chest/arms Tues, Legs on Thurs and shoulders/back on Fri, with spin yesterday and today. off tomorrow, then will be a heavy week, unless the baby decides to show up, in which case I will be doing my best just to get there :ze

kjd2121 04-03-2011 11:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick B (Post 1224571)
I'm working on rolling out my calves and loosening them up. I'd do regular squats if they did any good. With my awesome form they are basically a good morning/squat hybrid, and I don't think it's good for my back or my legs to do them that way. I do plenty of deads so stick it up your ass, pussbag! :) Ha Ha, all in good fun...

Might take a day off tomorrow. It's been 5 or 6 days straight with my current 4 day split of chest/tri, back/bi, shoulders, legs. Also thinking of going to a 5 day, maybe chest, back/calves, shoulders, bi's/tri's, legs. I'm REALLY focused right now on hitting it hard, eating a ton of protein, and getting bigger. Thoughts?

Just be sure you are not overtraining. You need to recover or you wont gain at all. Less is more.

Patrick B 04-03-2011 11:17 AM

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I don't know, Pete. I'll get some videos and we can all take a look. I guess that's the only way to know for sure. I can tell you my deadlift form feels solid, but my squat feels awful, like I am about to fall over on my face. I'll get a buddy to record me.

Fordman4ever 04-04-2011 07:49 PM

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Anybody here ever use Edge? Its made by a company called element nutrition. I just started it and wanted to know how others are cycling it.

PeteSB75 04-05-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick B (Post 1225514)
I don't know, Pete. I'll get some videos and we can all take a look. I guess that's the only way to know for sure. I can tell you my deadlift form feels solid, but my squat feels awful, like I am about to fall over on my face. I'll get a buddy to record me.

Interesting. You're likely letting your knees too far forward as you go down. They should never pass a line drawn up from your toes. Instead, you should be sticking your a$$ out more. Can be a tough form to learn, especially without a good coach, and I don't know the best way to explain it other than to tell you to read Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe and Lon Kilgore. They explain it far better than I ever could, and in far more detail. I am not using my copy currently, so if you want to send me your addy, I can send it off to you.

Heavy chest/arms for me this morning, flat bench(205x5x3), incline bench(185x5x3), bar curls and cable bar pulldowns.

Fordman4ever 04-05-2011 12:31 PM

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Put up 260 on the flat bench today. Most I've ever put up. Hopefully i'll be up to 300 soon.

Pass 04-05-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman4ever (Post 1227174)
Put up 260 on the flat bench today. Most I've ever put up. Hopefully i'll be up to 300 soon.

Grats dude! I finally got to 260 for 4 reps this last week as well... Working my way up to 315, but I keep hanging on 290 1RM. It's gonna be a long road!

Fordman4ever 04-05-2011 01:51 PM

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One thing that helped me get my max up was changing to a 3 set 15 rep work out.
I stick with my regular work out for about 2-3 months then do 2 weeks of the "3 set 15 rep for everything" workout.

DBall 04-05-2011 02:55 PM

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Man... ya lose it so quick... between the new job (new hours) and being sick more often than not in the past month, I've been to the gym a total of maybe 5 times... much different than the typical 3x per week religiously. I feel like I'm starting over again. What's worse, though, is I have ZERO desire to go after work. Bah.

King James 04-05-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DBall (Post 1227289)
Man... ya lose it so quick... between the new job (new hours) and being sick more often than not in the past month, I've been to the gym a total of maybe 5 times... much different than the typical 3x per week religiously. I feel like I'm starting over again. What's worse, though, is I have ZERO desire to go after work. Bah.

you will catch back up quicker than you think

Brutus2600 04-05-2011 06:22 PM

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I was surprised how quickly things are progressing for me after two years of not going to the gym.

A month of taking it easy is nothing, you got this :tu

I do know what you mean though, every time I stopped going to the gym it was because I got sick and stopped going for a couple of weeks and never started again.

My willpower is pretty awful sometimes :p

BigFrank 04-06-2011 05:33 PM

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Sorry havent been posting that much brothers. Life has dealt me a very ugly hand and I'm not good with cards. When I get my life put back together I'll try and post more.

hscmit 04-06-2011 08:18 PM

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hope things get back on track soon bigfrank

icehog3 04-06-2011 11:05 PM

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Saying a prayer for you Frank.

Brutus2600 04-06-2011 11:25 PM

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Prayers sent your way Frank!

Patrick B 04-18-2011 05:35 AM

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Well I can't seem to convert a video taken with my phone to something I can post here, but after seeing myself in action and having a few knowledgeable people at the gym take a look I am declaring my squat technique good to go. It's much better than I thought. My back is in a good position and I'm only an inch or two from getting to parallel. Doing them the regular way has made me get my lifting belt back out, it just feels safer that way. Legs today so I'm heading to sleep so I can go hard this afternoon.

Overall I'm making some good strides. My strength and BMI readings are both heading in the right direction!

GreekGodX 04-18-2011 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 1228471)
Sorry havent been posting that much brothers. Life has dealt me a very ugly hand and I'm not good with cards. When I get my life put back together I'll try and post more.

Prayers on the way Frank!

Speaking of squats.. I've always had a problem with my right side initiating the lift. Trying to fix this is proving to be difficult

mosesbotbol 04-18-2011 07:23 AM

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Anyone take B12 shots?

hscmit 04-18-2011 08:07 PM

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chest to failure and arms today

my last set of chest had a weird pop in my shoulder, didnt hurt but felt weird as hell

Fordman4ever 04-18-2011 08:14 PM

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Back workout today. Lots of pull-ups, rows, lat pull downs, and more pull-ups.
I'm starting to be able to do pull-ups very slowly and deliberately with full ROM.

PeteSB75 04-19-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFrank (Post 1228471)
Sorry havent been posting that much brothers. Life has dealt me a very ugly hand and I'm not good with cards. When I get my life put back together I'll try and post more.

Sorry to hear that Frank. Best wishes for you and your family.

BigFrank 04-22-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteSB75 (Post 1239760)
Sorry to hear that Frank. Best wishes for you and your family.

Thanks Pete and to everyone else for the well wishes. Things are still a mess, but I managed to drag myself into the Gym this morning. I still don't quite feel like myself, but time will heal everything.

I hope everyone is getting it done in the Gym. I havent been posting much but if you have a specific question feel free to PM me.

icehog3 04-22-2011 05:40 PM

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Good to "see" you Frank, hope things are getting better.

Patrick B 04-24-2011 08:24 AM

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Well wishes sent your way, Frank.

Just got back from a great shoulder workout. Laterals, bent over laterals, military's, straight bar and dumbbell shrugs. Did some pretty intense drop sets all the way through. Hope everybody gets some work in so we can pig out later! :)

bonjing 04-29-2011 10:01 AM

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Good thoughts to ya Frank, hope everything turns better for you!

How did this fall to page 2. Light gym this week right arm still feels like crap with the pinched nerve and all. Chiropractor has got me down for once a week instead of 3 times a week.

Kinda sucks that being right handed, my left arm has totally beat out the right arm in strength for now.

Patrick B 04-29-2011 04:15 PM

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Another great week just finished up, well it will be after legs tomorrow. I maxed on bench for the first time in years and got 285 with room to spare. I think 300 is a very real possibility soon. I crushed arms just now so I am typing with a great arm pump right now, it's almost like drunk posting! :)

It's Friday so time to go pig out on a not so healthy dinner. I love Friday for just this
reason. Have a good weekend all.

PeteSB75 04-30-2011 07:39 PM

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First time in the gym at all this morning for about a month. Just did some abs and a spin class. I hope to be lifting tomorrow and this week, but it's tough to find time with a new baby in the house and a wife I have to do what I can to help stay sane.

icehog3 05-01-2011 12:57 AM

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Always good to blow off a little steam, Pete. :)

Two more workouts for me and I will take 5 days off to relax and heal the old bones.

BigFrank 05-01-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3 (Post 1250822)
Always good to blow off a little steam, Pete. :)

Two more workouts for me and I will take 5 days off to relax and heal the old bones.

I feel ya on that one Tom. Without the Gym right now I dont know where my head would be. Hitting the gym up a little later. Been just going through the motions, now it's time to get into gear.

icehog3 05-01-2011 09:50 AM

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Just a way of life for guys like us, Frank, hard to imagine not being able to go anymore.

I have been able to put on a good amount of muscle again the last couple months, just wish I could take a couple more inches off my waist. Maybe I will just eat fish on vacation this week. :r


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