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Frank
Dren has been ok I noticed the energy boost over all it is like drinking coffee.
I think it has kept my argumentative side calm :) would I buy this again? Probably not.

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Nice workout. I took the rest of the week off for traveling etc. I get DOMS the worst. I have used a foam roller, but if I go that route I will use a tennisball, or softball to really get deep in there.

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I miss the DOMS. :( It's been 1.5 weeks since my last gym session due to travel. Grrrr. :mad:

Gym is closed today for the holiday; but it'll open back up tomorrow. I need to hit some squats or deads.

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I'm with you d...

I haven't been to the gym in 4 days, I been stuck on vacation with no access to a gym...

Headed back to California tonight, and back to the gym...

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Thats about how I feel on most products like that. I just buy the 20 pack of redbull at the store instead.
Never heard about using those before. Fri was the first day I ever used the foam roller. Wasnt too bad, I found my balance was worse than I had thought. LOL. Legs are a lil sore, but I didnt foam out my glutes and they FREAKING hurt, so maybe it is helping a lil.

Sorry to hear ya guys are missing the gym. The good part in all that is, you miss it. If ya take time off and dont feel like coming back. Thats the worst. Enjoy the rest time. Eat some junk, then come back full throttle.

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redbull is even worse for me, about 20 seconds feeling good then nothing

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I hear you there, energy drinks are great if I need a kick-start, but they're really only good for about 30-45 minutes unless you go with the 32 oz mini-kegs, in which case it's probably healthier to just do a line or two lol...

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Back to the gym for me tomorrow as well. New Diet/Workout starting and had some shoulder pain the last few weeks that hasn't gone away so took this past week off. Ready to rock and roll tomorrow at about 3:30 pm

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I drink the sugar free ones and feel fine. Usually drink one in the morning, and never notice any crash.

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Leg workout today....not particularly strong, but got an awesome pump and still feel it now. Too much "crap food" over the past two days, me thinks.

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Got back from the gym a little less than an hour ago. Eating now. Today seriously sucked. Please remind me never to take 2 weeks off. I should have at least done some cardio. My stamina sucked. My muscles felt weak. Oh ... and I had my first asthma attack (mild, thankfully) in several months and didn't have my inhaler. Oy.

Glad to be back on the wagon, though. :tu :ze

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I did legs today, too -- really wanted to get a good stretch in my hams and glutes since they've felt sore from all the traveling. Tried Zercher squats for the first time. Those take more arm strength than I realized. LoL! Did some stiff-legged deads, snatch-grip deads, and regular deads to follow up. My ass is gonna be killing me tomorrow. :r

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Well, that is a helluva way to get back in the saddle, Dokk. :tu

I just went with squats and seated hamstring curls....have a game Tuesday and don't want to be too depleted then. The squats were enough to do me in. :r

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I can't do squats b/c of my shoulder. :( I should also note that I didn't/couldn't go too heavy with anything. My last set of deads (only at 185), I did faster than I've ever done deads before. I probably could have hit 225 that fast; but my lower back (like, sacrum area) was sore, so I stopped. :) I'll do some cardio, stretching, and shoulder rehab tomorrow.

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Damn sorry to hear your workout sucked Prof. Thats kind of odd, only 2 weeks shouldnt have done you in that bad.

Whats bugging your shoulder that you cant do squats?

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I'm a wreck, Frank. :r

Don't know for sure what's wrong with the right shoulder. Still haven't found a good sports doc around here; but I haven't tried as hard as I should. The clearest symptoms are (a) a popping half-way down (not up) a flat bench motion and (b) a pain in the front part of the rotator cuff. Even holding the bar for a squat ends up putting a good deal of strain on the cuff; so I'm taking some time off from anything upper body that could strain it.

The bigger issues today were (a) total crap nutrition for the last 2 weeks and (b) posterior chain soreness from all the travel and conference-going. I spent almost 10 hours in the driver seat of my wife's car over the Thanksgiving vacation ... and it hurts my lower back from almost the second I sit in it. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm sure the crap day is a result of poor nutrition and the existent soreness. It'll get better by the end of the week. :tu

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Ya those factors will sure leave ya a mess.

Dunno about the shoulder issue, do you get the same pains even with lighter weights?

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I decided not to try and make-up chest and back. I'm gonna start fresh with bi/tri on Tuesday.

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I did ... which is why I cut out everything except for a circuit of rehab exercises. It's doing better, though -- no popping today. :)

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Damn that sucks, just keep the rehab going. Let it take time to heal up.

Tom heres an article I ran across.
http://www.elitefts.com/documents/off_ice_cond.htm

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Thanks Frank...If I can translate that from "weightless" exercises to something with weights, might be fun! :D

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Your Welcome Tom, I didnt read much into it to be honest. Just saw the hockey reference figured it would be at least worth a read.

Chest Just Finished
Bench
380x5 - 380x5 - 380x7(PR) Wanted to go for 8 but no spotter. Very upsetting.
DB floor Press
125x10x3
V Bar Press Downs
60x20 - 60x14 Massive Burn and pump stop me short last set
Dips
Bodyweight + 90x5x3 Final set of just Bodyweight 25 reps.

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tried dren and drank a coffee today, made me sleepy.:confused:

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Great bench session, Frank. :tu

Thumbs down on the Dren at this point, Perry?

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double negative?

I never could drink coffee always makes me bloated and tired.

yes I winz!11!!!!!1

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Coffee never did that to me back to the books to find something else.

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I took Animal Cuts a few times before they banned ephedra. That was some good ****! Gave me the jitters but I would be amped all day. Dunno what else is out there. I would say just get a bottle of caffeine =/
A lot of people lately have been staying away from stimulants. A lot of new research is saying that taking them outside of the optimal window(pre exercise) increases cortisol in the body in large amounts.

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any links? thats sounds like an interesting twist to previous way of thoughts.

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Just google "caffeine and cortisol" there is a lot of info on this subject. Tons of articles.

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just google it, eh? search nazi:r will do who knows how this may alter ones mind.

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caffeine is bad what about other stims?

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I've got the worst DOMS today. :r

Barely got cardio in this morning after all the snow/ice and the old lady almost passing out on her way down the stairs. Gotta push through the DOMS tomorrow, though, and do a bit more leg work. Might throw in some "curls for da gurls." ;) Definitely have to hit my rehab exercises again.

:ze

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Little change might do ya good. ;) :r

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2 1/2 circuits of shoulder rehab exercises, today. Damn thing is still popping even after all the rest. I think it's time for me to start looking harder for a doctor. :rolleyes:

Followed it up with some speed deads, just for fun and to get a bit blood flowing in my legs ... and just a little to show up the big guy using less weight and straps to hold onto the bar. ;) Yeah -- sometimes I'm a 15 year old, one-upper.

I learned it from Gerry, though. :ze :dance: :r

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Ya danged one-upper, Dokk! :r

I am going to hit upper body (excepting back) shortly, and then hit the rink later tonight.

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going to be a quick workout for me today. Get some leg stuff in then get back to hitting the books

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Make the most of it, Jim!

I am hitting the WF in 5, see yens all later.

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Pull Day
-Deads 490x5 490x5 490x7(should have netted 8 and / or 9 on these, strength was there but lacked a lot of mental drive, sad. Was coming out of the bottom very fast today)
-Pull Ups
BW+45x8x4
-Kroc Rows
125x20x2 ( gym needs larger dumbbells )
-Hang Row Cleans ( These are like 1/2 upright row, 1/2 power clean )
135x10x3
-Good Mornings
95x10x3
-15 min cardio-bike-stare-at-hot-chicks

I hope you used extra chalk for more of a dramatic show up effect Proff. hahahahahha

You know you <3 Deadlifts when your hands look like this
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3...0165iw4.th.jpg

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Nice deads, bro. I finally hit 405 a month or so back and have been training lighter since, focusing on the fundamentals. When I got back this morning, I'd popped some blood vessels or something in my right hand and it just looked like red bruise across 3 of my calluses. My wife said it was gross. I thought it was awesome.


PS, no chalk allowed :mad: but I sneak it in for 365+ :)

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No chalk? Thats terrible. I tried to use that liquid chalk before, it doesnt work worth a ****. Personally I think the old school chalk adds a little bit of a mental edge to pulling also. nothing says big pull like chalk clouds.

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never heard that before

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I just made it up. :ss
Just adds a psychological advantage for me thats all.

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I remember back in the day we used to break open ammonia caps before going for max lifts on squats.

Maybe that's why I am the way I am today. :r

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My trainer tells me that going until failure isn't a good thing, but one of my Men's fitness issues said it was. Just be sure to drink some whey protein before and after your workouts. It helps your muscles repair and grow.

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I have always worked to failure, although for many years now I stop there and don't go into "forced reps"....too much damage to the ligiments and tendons after 30 years of lifting. Forget what the fitness magazines say and experiment, find out what works best for you...there is no "formula" that works for everyone, everyone's body reacts differently.

I have never been able to lift on a full (to any degree) stomach, so I just hit the whey and glutamine right after the workout. The before and after whey is definitely a good thing for those who can lift with something in their stomach, though. :tu

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That explains so much. :D

Funny ... I was just thinking about those ammonia capsules today on the way into the gym. Maybe this is a sign I should grab some. :dance: :r :ze

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back in the day?

I still do it now....:cb

I train to failure every workout. Much like tom said, going past failure is where you get into dangerous territory.
Add simple carbs to the post workout shake and your good to go.

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This month's Men's Health says it's not good. I teaches proper form and you are more likely to be injury prone. It does say going to failure is good from time to time. But that's just what I read, I'm no expert.

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so many people training to fail

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Men's Health = Garbage
Unless you like looking at male models, only take this magazine and all other magazines for that matter at face value. How many articles does one need about building 6 pack abs and how to train arms? Of course a magazine is going to say some bullshit like that. They cater to the people that read them who want an easy way to workout. Bottom line, if you are not pushing yourself at the gym, you are not going to make any gains. That includes cardio, diet, and weightlifting. Unless you have a vast amount of disposable income and can load your body with test shots and hgh we are all gonna have to bust a little ass.

Now I understand that we as men require pictures and articles that only scratch the surface on debates. But take it just as that. A lot of the guys that post in this thread have a lot of years of weight training, nutrition, sports specific training and powerlifting knowledge at a key stroke away. Dont be afraid to ask.