It's happend

[BC-Axeman]

Question asked and answered! (slam)

[macpappy]

Well I just made a visit to the coral jungle and looked through the forums I usually visit. I noticed more than a few threads that had been closed by the head puffer. I read through the posts and didn't see anything slamming the forum or anyone else. He just closed it because of "drama."

It was my intentions to continue visiting the other site because I have some friends who seem to post more over there than over here. As soon as I can let them all know not to look for macjoe53 I will stop participating over there.

I'm not going to ask to be banned. I don't care that he will use the posts I have made over there. It wouldn't matter anyway because he won't eliminate names from the membership list anyway.

[icehog3]

E-mail from Caputo:

Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. You want to talk
classy? Spamming people via pm is really classy.

Best of luck.

Spamming....I sent a single message to smokingduck yesterday. :rolleyes:

[BP22]

E-mail from Caputo:



Spamming....I sent a single message to smokingduck yesterday. :rolleyes:

But...but...I thought he didn't read PMs... :bs :bh

[Starscream]

But...but...I thought he didn't read PMs... :bs :bh

:r:hm

[icehog3]

But...but...I thought he didn't read PMs... :bs :bh

;)

[AD720]

Good god. I've said it before in this thread but I'll say it again. This literally makes me sick.

[AD720]

I sent a single message to smokingduck yesterday. :rolleyes:

Me too. Actually on the 24th.

I guess I am next. :c

[Hardcz]

Classy is not being a dick

[replicant_argent]

Teach me, Sensei. :)

Wrong Dojo, Sonny Boy, move along down the street, this is a Pickled Egg and Pork Hock operation. Nuttin to see here.

[JE3146]

This thread is just irritating...

Tom, I just deleted my information and changed my email on that site. I'm not gonna do anything rash to get myself banned or locked out, but I refuse to ever go back there again after what I've read here. I respect you as one of the finest people this place has to offer.

caputo's true colors are showing. his name isn't even worth capitalizing.

/End of my rant

[SilverFox]

WOW 27 people viewing this thread (Fox waves to all the rubber necker's)

[Starscream]

WOW 27 people viewing this thread (Fox waves to all the rubber necker's)

It has a lot of "Awesome Content".;)

[NCRadioMan]

My alter ego was also just banned. The funny part was that I happened to be reading the post by pds informing members that alter-egos will not be accepted any longer but those that had them before that post, like me, would be fine. :r

I guess not anymore. :hm

[SilverFox]

It has a lot of "Awesome Content".;)

Could it be the contest winner? :r

[Starscream]

Could it be the contest winner? :r

Now all we need is Bobby (s15) to post a lot of pics in this thread. Where you at, Bro?

[SmokinDuck]

E-mail from Caputo:



Spamming....I sent a single message to smokingduck yesterday. :rolleyes:

Me too. Actually on the 24th.

I guess I am next. :c

I'm truly sorry about what happened. I feel that in some way I'm responsible for you guys getting punished for PM'ing me after I followed up my post about calling him stupid.

If it makes you feel better, I did receive a warning and wonder too now how long it will be before I get booted off the island.

[replicant_argent]

Now all we need is Bobby (s15) to post a lot of pics in this thread. Where you at, Bro?

Remembers that public discussion of dings is not only frowned upon, but in poor taste... ;)

[Hardcz]

Ello Fox!

[SilverFox]

Remembers that public discussion of dings is not only frowned upon, but in poor taste... ;)

dings? I don't understand, can you clarify this. (serious request not trying to be an ass)

[VirtualSmitty]

dings? I don't understand, can you clarify this. (serious request not trying to be an ass)

He meant to say dingbats ;)

[backwoods]

ahh what the hell...i jsut got a PM from stan the man at the other place..

Dear backwoods,

You have received an infraction at Puff Cigar Discussion Forums.

Reason: Multiple Account Infraction
-------
Backwoods-
You've created a duplicate account, which is against the rules. Please do not allow this to happen again.
Thanks
Stan
-------

This infraction is worth 5 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

All the best,
Puff Cigar Discussion Forums

I logged in under 'the mob' for a second and the next thing I know...BAM

:fu

If i just got dinged 5 points...how many do I have left :)

[newcigarz]

dings? I don't understand, can you clarify this. (serious request not trying to be an ass)

Negatively affecting someone's ring guage.

[chippewastud79]

Now all we need is Bobby (s15) to post a lot of pics in this thread. Where you at, Bro?

Please don't encourage him :rolleyes:

[AD720]

I'm truly sorry about what happened. I feel that in some way I'm responsible for you guys getting punished for PM'ing me after I followed up my post about calling him stupid.

If it makes you feel better, I did receive a warning and wonder too now how long it will be before I get booted off the island.

I haven't been banned (yet). I don't really care if I do. I have nothing left to contribute there anyway. I guess I am just holding on in the hopes that things will change. But I'm doubtful that will happen.

Even if I did I wouldn't want you to fell bad about it at all. I'm glad you are here.

[Starscream]

I haven't been banned (yet). I don't really care if I do. I have nothing left to contribute there anyway. I guess I am just holding on in the hopes that things will change. But I'm doubtful that will happen.


:tpd:

[SeanGAR]

Stirring up **** over there probably makes them as happy as the bozos from ***** **** coming here (oops, I meant there, before it went to hell in a handbasket) to stir up **** 2 years ago. Which ain't very, for you youngsters who don't remember that time. The place over there right now makes me :pu and is sad ... but I won't dwell on what was, I'd rather hang out here. Thanks again to the team who could see the writing on the wall and set this place up.

[replicant_argent]

Negatively affecting someone's ring guage.
see below

ahh what the hell...i jsut got a PM from stan the man at the other place..



I logged in under 'the mob' for a second and the next thing I know...BAM

:fu

If i just got dinged 5 points...how many do I have left :)
Pretty sure you get 10

He meant to say dingbats ;)
er... could be...

dings? I don't understand, can you clarify this. (serious request not trying to be an ass)
I don't want to wait for 3,000 pictures to load, :D
;)

[Smokin Gator]

Tom,

I am really sorry that all of your contributions, as well as many others, have been swept under the rug. I am also sorry that this comes from someone who lives in the state of Florida. But I have to say... I have met many like him... and it doesn't surprise me in the least that (edited for slanderous content) less than manly person would stoop so low.

Again, sorry brother,

Brent

[mmblz]

ahh what the hell...i jsut got a PM from stan the man at the other place..



I logged in under 'the mob' for a second and the next thing I know...BAM

:fu

If i just got dinged 5 points...how many do I have left :)

Next to go: Secret Santa and the Easter Bunny?

:rolleyes:

[RGD.]

Well I just saved all my subscribed threads and emails -

:sad


Ron

[Starscream]

202 lurking gorillas over in the ocean right now. Looks like we're all a bunch of vultures waiting for the kill. Or we're the traffic jam that happens as a result of everyone wanting to stop and checkout the horrendous crash on the side of the road.

[DBall]

I already don't spend time there, but this solidifies the resolve not to. Outright lies, password scrambling, making false accusations, etc., etc.

Participating there and turning a blind eye to actions like that is equivalent to condoning them...

It truly is sad to see this happen, though. :sad

[SeanGAR]

Next to go: Secret Santa and the Easter Bunny?

:rolleyes:

Anybody have Rainey's Anon-Y-Mouse password?

[Encore Souris]

Anybody have Rainey's Anon-Y-Mouse password?

Yes, but it will cost you.

[Da Klugs]

Sigh..requesting dispensaton for posting this: 5 years served at a place and having it end as below. Was just going to leave it but ...

Several days ago my password got "scrambled" there. Yesterday had a 10 email exchange with the owner.

Started at... who me, and ended with repetitious demands for censorship regarding Poof bashing here in return for my being able to log on there.

We left it at I was not going to be able to log on there.

[backwoods]

Next to go: Secret Santa and the Easter Bunny?

:rolleyes:


my apologies for not being internet forum savy, but how do they track dual accounts? IP address? I didn't have any issues until I logged in for a second to see if that account was still active..and then they dinged me within a half hour.

[AD720]

Sigh..

Just when you think it can't get any worse... :(

[JKim]

vbulletin has a feature to notify you when another user has logged in with the same IP address. I think it's a pretty common function used to track multiple accounts.

[JKim]

Sigh..requesting dispensaton for posting this: 5 years served at a place and having it end as below. Was just going to leave it but ...

Several days ago my password got "scrambled" there. Yesterday had a 10 email exchange with the owner.

Started at... who me, and ended with repetitious demands for censorship regarding Poof bashing here in return for my being able to log on there.

We left it at I was not going to be able to log on there.

Dave... thanks for sharing that. After reading, I feel very ill, but it's something I appreciate that you could share with us.

[68TriShield]

my apologies for not being internet forum savy, but how do they track dual accounts? IP address? I didn't have any issues until I logged in for a second to see if that account was still active..and then they dinged me within a half hour.

It's built in Alan,we can see when it happens.

[chippewastud79]

It is sad that Jon purchased members, but then decided he is just going to force out the ones he doesn't like. If he wanted to start all over, then why purchase membership?

Do the rules of mulitple accounts apply to the Administration? I do wonder about the sudden influx of members with no posts, just introductions.

[Starscream]

Do the rules of mulitple accounts apply to the Administration? I do wonder about the sudden influx of members with no posts, just introductions.

:tpd::hm

[borndead1]

Wow...what happened to Dave and Tom is really just unreal. I feel insulted and it didn't even happen to me! :(

[Ratters]

E-mail from Caputo:



Spamming....I sent a single message to smokingduck yesterday. :rolleyes:

Ha, the only thing I do there now is look for the new members in the Bay Area and PM them to come here. Not out of maliciousness for Puff but because we have a strong group of smokers here that don't frequent Puff and it would be a shame for them to miss out. I'm sure it'll get me banned at some point but like others, I have nothing else to contribute there. For me I'm glad the name has finally changed, I can wear my clubstogie hat with nostalgic pride for what the place was and continues to be here.

And thanks to the team of 11 who carried on that same spirit. :tu This board already has more truly active users than puff and I hope it keeps growing. But not too fast. ;)

Oh, and I sent smoking duck some rg, I guess they don't look at that. :D

[MedicCook]

It is never a good thing to get rid of your primary demographic who are the ones who built the site and mostly did it for free. The content will slowly become stale and the unique hits will drop and so will revenue.

[chippewastud79]

Wow...what happened to Dave and Tom is really just unreal. I feel insulted and it didn't even happen to me! :(

Its actually sickening. He won't allow some of the very members that helped create the community, that he has since destroyed, continue to participate in the forum. He is also spending the time to decide what posts make the cut. He should have just designed a site to sell random ad space and posted all the posts in the forums he wanted people to read and close them immediately so you could do nothing but read them and not get a chance to respond to his lies and deceit. :bh

[rack04]

It is sad that Jon purchased members, but then decided he is just going to force out the ones he doesn't like. If he wanted to start all over, then why purchase membership?

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but even if you are banned, and/or have your password scrambled you are still a member. When potential avertisers looks at the stats they'll see many more members than actually available. John doesn't care whether you stay or go. You're already a stat that is getting him paid.

[VirtualSmitty]

Wow...what happened to Dave and Tom is really just unreal. I feel insulted and it didn't even happen to me! :(

No kidding. It's unreal, Dave and Tom were both a very big part of making CS the great place it was (among many others), to see them banned in the matter they were is really outrageous.

[SmokeyJoe]

Wow...what happened to Dave and Tom is really just unreal. I feel insulted and it didn't even happen to me! :(

:tpd: Seems entirely asinine. What has jc really purchased? :confused:

[Starscream]

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but even if you are banned, and/or have your password scrambled you are still a member. When potential avertisers looks at the stats they'll see many more members than actually available. John doesn't care whether you stay or go. You're already a stat that is getting him paid.

We really are a bunch of postwhores now, aren't we? JC is pimping us out big time.:D:mad:

[chippewastud79]

:tpd: Seems entirely asinine. What has jc really purchased? :confused:

A number. Hard to sell companies on a product with no numbers to back it up. I just wish they could see through all the lies and see what the real product they are investing is has become. :fl

[ahc4353]

Is membership the real number or is it site hits? If I was an advertiser I would wanna know what kind of daily "hits" / "views" his site gets. If that's the case anyone who goes to check the drama just helps his cause.

[SeanGAR]

Obviously the owner over there has a severe case of µPS. Not even smiling bob can fix that.

[Starscream]

Is membership the real number or is it site hits? If I was an advertiser I would wanna know what kind of daily "hits" / "views" his site gets. If that's the case anyone who goes to check the drama just helps his cause.

A lot of us are still helping his cause. I'm guilty of it. It makes me feel ashamed as of today to be contributing anything toward his financial gain. I hadn't given up on the site until after what Tom and Dave said today.

[floydpink]

I just popped in to Puff to see if my password still works. This thread got me curious. It still works. Browsing around, it seems that the thing I saw most was:

"Closing this up. Drama threads/bashing threads dont belong here. Take it to another board." Jon Caputo

[chippewastud79]

A lot of us are still helping his cause. I'm guilty of it. It makes me feel ashamed as of today to be contributing anything toward his financial gain. I hadn't given up on the site until after what Tom and Dave said today.

I concur, but there is still hope for some of the drowning gorillas over there. With all the censorship and selective posting it will be hard to get them aboard the life raft, but if we can save one, it is well worth it. :)

I just popped in to Puff to see if my password still works. This thread got me curious. It still works. Browsing around, it seems that the thing I saw most was:

"Closing this up. Drama threads/bashing threads dont belong here. Take it to another board." Jon Caputo

And don't even think about telling the truth about what happened over there. :bh

[white_s2k]

And don't even think about telling the truth about what happened over there. :bh

Jon C will just edit your post and close the thread so that all of the advertisers and new members not in the know won't have a clue as to what he is doing to that place. The guy is a Class A Jackass, and why anyone would even want to continue on with that board (especially as a mod) is completely beyond me. :2

[Starscream]

why anyone would even want to continue on with that board (especially as a mod) is completely beyond me. :2

They'll (mods) be here full-time soon (I hope). I hate to hear about what they're going through as of late. But I deeply respect that they are following through with their commitments.

[piperman]

It's built in Alan,we can see when it happens.

Well, If you use a router they would only see one IP address when in realty you may have five correct.

[white_s2k]

They'll (mods) be here full-time soon (I hope). I hate to hear about what they're going through as of late.

Absolutely. I tried to hang on there as long as I could, but Jon lied to everybody about what that site was going to be. I certainly don't know the mods over there as well as some, but I would not be surprised if they get fed up eventually too. But regardless, I hope all of the drama calms down for them.

[AD720]

Well, If you use a router they would only see one IP address when in realty you may have five correct.

No. There is a difference between your router (dhcp) ip address and your "real world" IP address that is your cable modem or dsl modem or whatever. All the computers on your network share that "real world" IP.

[borndead1]

A lot of us are still helping his cause. I'm guilty of it. It makes me feel ashamed as of today to be contributing anything toward his financial gain. I hadn't given up on the site until after what Tom and Dave said today.


That is exactly why I kept bugging them to ban me and delete my account. I don't want my username to put 1 penny in his pocket.

[TomHagen]

:dance: I Love Cigar Asylum!! :dance:

... crisis situations bring people together, and now more than ever do I believe the Cigar Asylum family is more solidified and united. I am happier than ever to be here.

[PaleRider]

I got to admit, I was hoping that the place would stay the "same". But after that Asylum business, with censoring etc. Well, after the thread got deleted, that was too much in my opinion. :(

[SeanGAR]

Well, If you use a router they would only see one IP address when in realty you may have five correct.

You need a proxy server if you want sneak in a second account without being obvious.

[piperman]

No. There is a difference between your router (dhcp) ip address and your "real world" IP address that is your cable modem or dsl modem or whatever. All the computers on your network share that "real world" IP.

That's why, I got two accounts over there or did.

[Starscream]

I log on under the same account both here and at work. So if another guy at work became a member and logged in at work, wouldn't that be seen as two accounts from one address (seen as multiple accounts)?

[piperman]

I got to admit, I was hoping that the place would stay the "same". But after that Asylum business, with censoring etc. Well, after the thread got deleted, that was too much in my opinion. :(

So did I, Oh well hope everyone can make it over here, there isn't much going on over there.

Hey get out of my chair, never mind. :confused:

[Kreth]

I don't really have a dog in this fight, since I only joined the other place just in time for the change. But I have to say in all the time I've spent on forums, I have never seen someone so thoroughly piss off his faithful membership and run things into the ground. I hope he's got a good excuse for his investors when everyone gets tired of watching the train-wreck, and they want to know why traffic is so low.

I log on under the same account both here and at work. So if another guy at work became a member and logged in at work, wouldn't that be seen as two accounts from one address (seen as multiple accounts)?
Without getting too technical, it depends on how your firewall is set up at work. Usually when you look for multiple accounts, you're looking for multiple accounts from a home DSL or cable IP hostname, though.

[MedicCook]

I log on under the same account both here and at work. So if another guy at work became a member and logged in at work, wouldn't that be seen as two accounts from one address (seen as multiple accounts)?

It could. I had a small messageboard a few years ago and I had different people that worked for the same company and they had the same IP address.

[Asher]

Is membership the real number or is it site hits? If I was an advertiser I would wanna know what kind of daily "hits" / "views" his site gets. If that's the case anyone who goes to check the drama just helps his cause.

If he's really using the number of members as a selling point for advertisers, knowing full well that some of the accounts are deliberately inaccessible, then he may be committing fraud.

[architeuthis]

I'm reading and following what's going on with all this. I think it's gonna be historic, and many years from now I can tell all the grand-Squidlets how "I Was There During The Great Cigar Forum Wars"...

[chippewastud79]

If he's really using the number of members as a selling point for advertisers, knowing full well that some of the accounts are deliberately inaccessible, then he may be committing fraud.

Legally or just because he is a tool? Because if it is a legal issue I would love to see him get sued for deceiving the masses. :D

[chippewastud79]

Al's thread asking about the bans and the scrambling of member passwords has promptly been closed. Don't even think about going against the company line. :fl

[VirtualSmitty]

Al's thread asking about the bans and the scrambling of member passwords has promptly been closed. Don't even think about going against the company line. :fl

Yep, that's the solution to everything over there now, just close the thread. I swear, in the little time i've spent browsing puff.suck i've seen more threads closed in a week than I ever saw in the years the old mod crew ran the show. Remember when we could talk about things and discuss gripes openly? Try that now and your thread will be closed faster than you can say boo :r

[ahc4353]

Al's thread asking about the bans and the scrambling of member passwords has promptly been closed. Don't even think about going against the company line. :fl
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Puff Message

You have been banned for the following reason:
Drama starter - http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/general-discussion/220354-what-place-has-come.html#post2135508

Date the ban will be lifted: 02-02-2009, 09:00 PM

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I will request it never be lifted.

If you can't tell the truth it's not my kind of place.

[HK3-]

I tried to be removed and they wouldn't allow it? :confused:

[piperman]

Do we have any internet Lawyers in the house.....There has to be some type of crime there. :tu

[MedicCook]

I just happened to come across this picture... I think it may be fitting.

http://i-mambo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/fish-assholes.jpg

[Starscream]

I just happened to come across this picture... I think it may be fitting.

http://i-mambo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/fish-assholes.jpg

:pu:r

[King James]

I cannot believe what is going on over there. Thebest thing that can be done is boycott viewing that site..... Even if everyone wants too see the trainwreck
Posted via Mobile Device

[Da Klugs]

Do we have any internet Lawyers in the house.....There has to be some type of crime there. :tu

Naa just a crying shame is all.

Being a little... more vintage than most here, thought a little observation that parallels my life might be in order.

Helped build a business for another back in the late 80's thru the 90's. Went from 2mm to 50mm. 30 employees to 400. Started in sales and had a hand in bringing in the growth in good people and business. Ended up as president. There were significant character issues with our owner that culminated in my getting fired on a Monday after returning the previous day from a ski trip with some of the team. Worst day of my life. Over the next month most of the team quit. Sat out their non- competes and starved for 18 months.

Today we own and run a business together that is bigger and better than the one we left. Everyone is better off and happier than we ever were or could have been. Trial by fire forges strong bonds.

Weird the parallels in our lives at times. From the worst of things can spring the best of things.

[av8tor152d]

I asked Jon to delete my account, I refuse to give the site a number in membership. Now it's real easy to not get caught up in the drama there. Thanks to all who make this a place to enjoy.

[Starscream]

Naa just a crying shame is all.

Being a little... more vintage than most here, thought a little observation that parallels my life might be in order.

Built a business for another back in the late 80's thru the 90's. Went from 2mm to 50mm. 30 employees to 400. Started in sales and had a hand in bringing in the growth in good people and business. Ended up as president. There were significant character issues with our owner that culminated in my getting fired on a Monday after returning the previous day from a ski trip with some of the team. Worst day of my life. Over the next month most of the team quit. Sat out their non- competes and starved for 18 months.

Today we own and run a business together that is bigger and better than the one we left. Everyone is better off and happier than we ever were or could have been. Trial by fire forges strong bonds.

Weird the parallels in our lives at times. From the worst of things can spring the best of things.
What happened to the old boss, Dave? Did he go under?

[ks92xj]

I cant stand to watch it any more

[white_s2k]

Jon re-opened Al's thread and posted the following, then of course immediately relocked it:

"One more comment on this. Icehog and Daklugs have both in their own words expressed to me that they do not wish to return. If that changes they have my email address and they can email me. Case closed."

So.. first it was that they were not banned. Now their ban is open to negotation? :r I'll say it again, Class A Jackass.

[King James]

Well put, Dave. I do not see CA as the one who will be hurting in the end
Posted via Mobile Device

[ahc4353]

Jon re-opened Al's thread and posted the following, then of course immediately relocked it:

"One more comment on this. Icehog and Daklugs have both in their own words expressed to me that they do not wish to return. If that changes they have my email address and they can email me. Case closed."

So.. first it was that they were not banned. Now their ban is open to negotation? :r I'll say it again, Class A Jackass.

:r I guess Silverfox's is non negotiable.

I only spoke the truth. It's sad when the truth is gaged.

[VirtualSmitty]

Jon re-opened Al's thread and posted the following, then of course immediately relocked it:

"One more comment on this. Icehog and Daklugs have both in their own words expressed to me that they do not wish to return. If that changes they have my email address and they can email me. Case closed."

So.. first it was that they were not banned. Now their ban is open to negotation? :r I'll say it again, Class A Jackass.

I especially liked how he failed to address why they had problems accessing the site to begin with. Nope, no explanation just case closed :r

[Starscream]

:r I guess Silverfox's is non negotiable.

I only spoke the truth. It's sad when the truth is gaged.

Close your blinds, Al. The black helicopters are circling overhead.

[chippewastud79]

Jon re-opened Al's thread and posted the following, then of course immediately relocked it:

"One more comment on this. Icehog and Daklugs have both in their own words expressed to me that they do not wish to return. If that changes they have my email address and they can email me. Case closed."




It is his world, we are just restricted in it. :rolleyes:

Like I said before, don't even think about posting the truth over there :bh

[MajorCaptSilly]

"Meet the new boss,
same as the old boss (except he's paranoid, delusional, and has a Napoleon complex)"

To paraphrase The Who

MCS

[No1der]

I would imagine you have much better things to do with your time.

Obviously if I were going to do it I wouldn't first announce it here. Please, the good lord gave us all brain cells, use yours.

Cheers,
Rob

[RGD.]

Next to go: Secret Santa and the Easter Bunny?

:rolleyes:


Thought I would check - I can't log on as The Legion anymore - I had fun with it and we did some damage - oh well . . .

Guess it falls under the double log-in deal.


Ron


http://www.dgdesigns.com/humidor/legion1.jpg

[chippewastud79]

Now apparently openly asking questions have become "Drama" and must be restricted to PM's for fear of the answers angering the masses. It is a shame when the content of a site that is supposed to be an open forum can be restricted by one controlling dictator. :bh

[HK3-]

^^^^ that's some freaky ****.

[pnoon]

Now apparently openly asking questions have become "Drama" and must be restricted to PM's for fear of the answers angering the masses. It is a shame when the content of a site that is supposed to be an open forum can be restricted by one controlling dictator. :bh

http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/questions-issues/220367-honest-question-no-drama-intended.html

[Starscream]

Jon re-opened Al's thread and posted the following, then of course immediately relocked it:

"One more comment on this. Icehog and Daklugs have both in their own words expressed to me that they do not wish to return. If that changes they have my email address and they can email me. Case closed."

So.. first it was that they were not banned. Now their ban is open to negotation? :r I'll say it again, Class A Jackass.

That thread no longer exists.

[No1der]

http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/questions-issues/220367-honest-question-no-drama-intended.html

Post screencaps as some of us have been b&...

As per my sig.

Cheers,
Rob

[architeuthis]

Looks like there's been a whole new section added at Puff entitled "Drama"... <G>

[HK3-]

Looks like there's been a whole new section added at Puff entitled "Drama"... <G>


Excellent! That's my department. :dance::cool2:

[white_s2k]

That thread no longer exists.

PM incoming.

[mmblz]

Looks like there's been a whole new section added at Puff entitled "Drama"... <G>

But you can't post in it...
Seems like it would save the mods the trouble of having to move things if you could just post there to begin with :r

[Whee]

The new "Drama" forum reminds me of the "complaints" forum...and we all know what happened to that thread....

"Negative threads...they check in....BUT THEY DON'T CHECK OUT!"

I have been steering clear and not ruffling feathers or posting comments, becasue it just doesn;t matter over there.

Reminds me of the Howard Stern Show. Early on, his numbers were higher amongst people who HATED the show than with with people who considered themselves fans. Apparently, the haters kept tuning in just to hear what horrible thing he would say next...

Train wreck anyone?

[No1der]

Meh, I'm not going to bother putting on a proxy just to watch a site selfdestruct.

Cheers,
Rob

[pnoon]

But you can't post in it...
Seems like it would save the mods the trouble of having to move things if you could just post there to begin with :r
When the good lord was passing out brains, I have no clue where JC was.

[AAlmeter]

Anybody have Rainey's Anon-Y-Mouse password?

****. As much as he and I got into pissing matches, that made me smile. Truly an individual with one hell of a mind. Thanks Sean.




I had a lot more to say....but :fl


Best wishes to all






except my enemies....they can rot in hell like Beelzebub's turd

[AD720]

When the good lord was passing out brains, I have no clue where JC was.

He got seconds on ego.

[white_s2k]

He got seconds on ego.

:r :r :r

[Starscream]

The new "Drama" forum reminds me of the "*****es" forum...and we all know what happened to that thread....


I almost forgot about that forum. :r

[No1der]

Well we know what he did now here's what he should have done.

Allow everyone the oppertunity to just b!tch untill they were all b!tched out and tired.

Hell, the CS Clubhouse was perfect as only other Gorillas could read it anyway.

Why he would nix the clubhouse is beyond me and why he thinks it's a good idea to just try and hush people up is inexplicable for me.

Drama brings the trafic and that's what his advertisers want to see. If he had a brain he would have milked the drama for at least a few weeks. His Alexa rating would go up and his advertisers (who would never have seen most of the drama anyway) would be thrilled that they were getting their money's worth.

Cheers,
Rob

[AAlmeter]

When the good lord was passing out brains, I have no clue where JC was.



I so very reluctantly agree with you. ;)


Looking like its time that many will be bailing from that sinking ship.


Perhaps a good time to bring about a spirit of positivity here...instead of reminders of the down side of the overall community.

Possibly even a constitution of sorts of what CA and the mods will never become...to give everyone some reassurance about privacy and the sacredness of the "BOTL-ness" that gave rise to both CS and CA



I just cannot express my sadness with this situation...I've been only partially active for 2 years, but have frequently PMed Jon with unpaid advice that he sought after on how to run the show. He followed none of it, and treated all like ****. I'm patiently waiting to be banned based on a PM I sent him. Very sad indeed, especially coming from someone who fully supported him (I knew nothing of him as a person, or his other dealings).

[pnoon]

I so very reluctantly agree with you. ;)



:D

[AAlmeter]

:D


Every hero needs a protagonist. At least your title is easy to pronounce! :( :r

[No1der]

There were so many ways to handle all of this and he picked the absolute worst of all options.

I'm really not all that sad about it if I'm to be honest.

We have CA, which I'm very happy to be a part of.

CS is gone,
Eventually pVff will be gone.
And as they say in my parts of the intertubes, nothing of value was lost.
After all, we're all here and that's all the Club Stogie I need.

Cheers,
Rob

[pnoon]

Every hero needs a protagonist. At least your title is easy to pronounce! :( :r

I've been told by many members here that it is actually pronounced poon - the first "n" is silent. ;)

[Starscream]

And as they say in my parts of the intertubes, nothing of value was lost.


I'd say we lost a lot of vauable things. Not necessary things, but valuable and treasured things. Posts that no longer belong to us, Louie, not to mention kwagga and kumarusc.

[Da Klugs]

To quote a wise man's usage of the quote in a similar situation....

"I got a really good deal on my car insurance today"

and

Adam making Peters day ... brotherly act of the day. :D

[AAlmeter]

I've been told by many members here that it is actually pronounced poon - the first "n" is silent. ;)


Where are the mods in this joint? I thought the word poon was banned around here....lascivious, what do you have to say about this word?!?

[piperman]

I've been told by many members here that it is actually pronounced poon - the first "n" is silent. ;)


That's what I always thought, sorry my bad.:(

[No1der]

I'd say we lost a lot of vauable things. Not necessary things, but valuable and treasured things. Posts that no longer belong to us, Louie, not to mention kwagga and kumarusc.

You're missing the sentiment. A forum is only as great as it's users and all our treasured users are over here.

This is the internet, forums come and go, they don't really matter. What matters is the people that bring those boards to life.

So we don't have Louie, we'll come up with something better. So we don't have those posts? Ok, what good are they to a dead board like puff? Do you see where I'm going with this?

Cheers,
Rob

[No1der]

I'm surprised that nobody came up with the domain name "The Stogie Club" that's not exactly the kind of thing that can be copyrighted.

Cheers,
Rob

[Starscream]

You're missing the sentiment. A forum is only as great as it's users and all our treasured users are over here.

This is the internet, forums come and go, they don't really matter. What matters is the people that bring those boards to life.

So we don't have Louie, we'll come up with something better. So we don't have those posts? Ok, what good are they to a dead board like puff? Do you see where I'm going with this?

Cheers,
Rob
Those are necessary things. I agree with you there. Yes we have them and they are the most important. I'm talking about treasured things, like old memorabilia, and photos. When your house burns down, you're foremost concern is your family and finding a new home. We have a new home and most of the family is here, however we will never get back all of the sentimental things that remind us of the old days. All the pictures of the wedding, the kids growing up, the family reunions, and the old antique family heirlooms are gone. We have what is important, but a tear is still shed for the sentimental things.

[Starscream]

Chalk up another honest question to the Drama forum.

[No1der]

Those are necessary things. I agree with you there. Yes we have them and they are the most important. I'm talking about treasured things, like old memorabilia, and photos. When your house burns down, you're foremost concern is your family and finding a new home. We have a new home and most of the family is here, however we will never get back all of the sentimental things that remind us of the old days. All the pictures of the wedding, the kids growing up, the family reunions, and the old antique family heirlooms are gone. We have what is important, but a tear is still shed for the sentimental things.

Well, I'm with you on that one. I too shed a tear over the memories but everyone I made those memories with are over here and there's nothing stopping me from making new memories.

Finally, and this part is debatable, the price of admission to watch an asshat sink lots of cash into a complete failure of a board was Louie. I can photoshop a new picture of a Gorilla squeazing the life out of a fish if you'd like. That second part is partly humor but also carries some truth to it.

Cheers,
Rob

Edit: Remember fellow Gorillas, there is nothing on the old CS that can't be replicated to a huge degree over here. For those who are not b& from fish cove, why not go and backup your old posts and we can certainly put them here. As long as you are the one who made that post means that those are your words and you can repeat them till the sun goes down.

[Starscream]

I can photoshop a new picture of a Gorilla squeazing the life out of a fish if you'd like. :r

[AD720]

http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/questions-issues/220367-honest-question-no-drama-intended.html

Another thread moved to

http://myspace-039.vo.llnwd.net/00704/93/08/704308039_m.jpg


...so much for answering honest questions.

I've had about all I can take for one night.

Tomorrow WILL be a better day.

[Starscream]

I've had about all I can take for one night.

Tomorrow WILL be a better day.

:tpd:

[AAlmeter]

4 years on CS...had the e-mail account 9....Mr Funny Man!! :r



I had my rant, and I am over it, Adam. Sorry again to all the inmates for my 15 minutes of drama. Sincerely.

Don't sweat it Tom. I only had 10 years there...and now I've been put on hiatus. Geez...its not even like I have a big mouth or anything!

[Whee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40

[HawkEye19]

Nice, now the "drama" thread is a just a place to look at posts Big Chief Jon doesn't like. Makes me wonder what drama is?

[No1der]

Ok, I found a fitting video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPVOWsYHwHU

Cheers,
Rob

[No1der]

Ok, I found a fitting video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPVOWsYHwHU

Cheers,
Rob

The more I watch it the funnier it gets. I'm warped though. lulz

Cheers,
Rob

[chippewastud79]

We'll see how long it takes my honest question, about an honest question, about an honest question, takes to get moved to the "Drama" forum.

For when it gets deleted

Answering questions question

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I will preface this post with the "No Drama Intended", but it may be ignored as previously demonstrated. I think that some of the long standing members would like to see some issues resolved and the questions have been posed with no response.

It seems as if some of the well respected members of this forum who have been around a long time have asked some pretty simple questions about how we can conduct discussions on this site about other well respected members.

The original question was moved to "Drama" and an explanation of keeping it to PM's was given.

A question asking for the answer to the first question being made public was also moved to "Drama" and still no answer to the original question.

If we are only going to be allowed to talk about certain topics, shouldn't we atleast be informed about why we aren't allowed to talk about the topics deemed too "dramatic" for this forum as to not upset the administration?

There was a time when public forums meant that public questions were answered by the administration for the betterment of the public members and of all those involved. Is it safe to assume that the new solution is to answer only public questions deemed appropriate by one, and not by general public?

[SeanGAR]

That thread no longer exists.

Dick moved it to the "drama" forum where you can't post replies and the thread disappears after one week (supposedly, but anything coming from Dick is of dubious reliability).

[No1der]

We'll see how long it takes my honest question, about an honest question, about an honest question, takes to get moved to the "Drama" forum.

For when it gets deleted

You do realize that you're going to get b& and end up with the type of message I've got in my sig.

Also, check out the vid and tell me it doesn't get funnier and funnier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPVOWsYHwHU

Cheers,
Rob

[AAlmeter]

Dick moved it to the "drama" forum where you can't post replies and the thread disappears after one week (supposedly, but anything coming from Dick is of dubious reliability).

Dick who? ;)



I'm debating whether its healthy for all of us to let out our collective frustration or to pass a puff around and let bygones be....douschbags (no offense captain :ih -bag) ;)

[AAlmeter]

You do realize that you're going to get b& and end up with the type of message I've got in my sig.

Also, check out the vid and tell me it doesn't get funnier and funnier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPVOWsYHwHU

Cheers,
Rob

Hey grasshopper, at least yours didn't happen for a PM to Jon. That's when you know you've really wiped the hemorrhoid too hard! :D

[No1der]

Hey grasshopper, at least yours didn't happen for a PM to Jon. That's when you know you've really wiped the hemorrhoid too hard! :D

That's true I kinda told him/them/puff FU on open boards but I said it nicely. Interestingly enough, I didn't get banned for that as I was on the boards for 2 more days.

I thought I was clever by asking him to sound out the word "Fugu" as in Puffer Fish. lulz.

Meh, I'm not going to cry over spilled milk, I've made my mess and now I've got to sleep in it.

Cheers,
Rob

[lightning9191]

After seeing everything going on, I went over there today and cleaned out my locker...it's just a shame to see how everyone is being treated and how threads are being locked up and deleted.

[pnoon]

Hey grasshopper, at least yours didn't happen for a PM to Jon. That's when you know you've really wiped the hemorrhoid too hard! :D
:r:r:r

[King James]

apparently all opinions and questions criticizing Jon and the way he runs the site are "drama" and he doesn't have to answer to anyone. I mean technically he doesn't, but not the way I would run a business.

1. Courteous Criticisms

When critiquing a cigar, please do it in an adult, considerate and decent manner. Do not insult the manufacturer or simply state "it sucks" etc. Give a reason as to what you feel does not fit your profile or taste. Burn issues? Construction? Condition of the cigar? As part of the PUFF.com community your post are looked at by manufacturers and it can often give them a heads up about bad batches that made it past quality control. Try to be specific. Where did you purchase the cigar? What year? Things like this can really help other members too. Also, feel free to offer some positives about the cigar itself that you did like, this will inform the manufacturer about the things the consumers enjoy about the cigar. We can all learn a lot from each other here.

Haha, I can just picture the Fuentes sitting at their computer wearing out the refresh button waiting on our reviews.

I only wish I too could taste 7 year old burnt madagascar vanilla.

[kayaker]

I had a PM get censored. I wasn't trying to recruit for CA, but was telling a fellow Canuck that it was hard getting more people in for the Canadian Stogies Trade because people moved over to another forum. I only gave him the link here when he asked for it. It showed up as www.**********.com in his message.

I guess they really don't like us over there.:rolleyes:

[AAlmeter]

I had a PM get censored. I wasn't trying to recruit for CA, but was telling a fellow Canuck that it was hard getting more people in for the Canadian Stogies Trade because people moved over to another forum. I only gave him the link here when he asked for it. It showed up as www.**********.com in his message.

I guess they really don't like us over there.:rolleyes:

Possibly that was my reason for trouble. I had PMed a mod, who I trust greatly, to let him know that I was quite upset of some of the goings-on there (especially with Tom), and that he could look me up here, via my phone, or via my email.

Either way, complete BS. I have absolutely NO animosity towards Jon for commercializing the site. In my opinion, it was too big for one guy and a group of volunteers to run as a hobby...it needed someone who could take the reigns either as a hobby for the independently wealthy or as a profit-generating venture. I have no problem with either path. But Mr Caputo has truly alienated the community; a community which I think is much more tightly knit that he realizes and is likely constricting due to the economy.

[No1der]

I had a PM get censored. I wasn't trying to recruit for CA, but was telling a fellow Canuck that it was hard getting more people in for the Canadian Stogies Trade because people moved over to another forum. I only gave him the link here when he asked for it. It showed up as www.**********.com in his message.

I guess they really don't like us over there.:rolleyes:

Allow me to say this in all caps and in bold lettering.

WHAT A TOOL!!!!1!

Cheers,
Rob

Also notice my cool sig. ;)

[SmokinDuck]

apparently all opinions and questions criticizing Jon and the way he runs the site are "drama" and he doesn't have to answer to anyone. I mean technically he doesn't, but not the way I would run a business.

1. Courteous Criticisms

As part of the PUFF.com community your post are looked at by manufacturers and it can often give them a heads up about bad batches that made it past quality control.



:r:r:r

Are you serious? Is that really posted over there?

I wonder where the serial number and date of manufacture was stamped on the last cigar I smoked.

Maybe it's like reading tea leaves only you have to read the ashes. Hmmmm, my ash has a big crack down the middle, got any tape?

:r:r

[icehog3]

Jon re-opened Al's thread and posted the following, then of course immediately relocked it:

"One more comment on this. Icehog and Daklugs have both in their own words expressed to me that they do not wish to return. If that changes they have my email address and they can email me. Case closed."



Lies.

Don't sweat it Tom. I only had 10 years there...and now I've been put on hiatus. Geez...its not even like I have a big mouth or anything!

Sorry, Adam.....seems like all the people who had a voice at one time there are being silenced. You deserved better for the attempts you made to help JC along the right path.

[newcigarz]

Lies.

Iron Maiden - No More Lies.

There's a darkening sky before me.
There's no time to prepare.
Salvage a lost horizon
But no regrets from me.
Maybe i'll be back some other day. (some other day)
To live again, just who can say.
In what shape or form that i might be.
Just another chance for me.

A hurried time, no disgrace,
instead of racing to conclusion,
wishing all my life away,
no-one can stop me now.

Time is up, it couldn't last,
but there's more things i'd like to do,
i'm coming back,
to try again,
some day maybe i'll wait till then...


They're all sitting at my table.
Talking tall and drinking wine.
Their time is up just like me
but They just don't know it yet.
So just a word of warning
When you're in your deepest dreams.
There's nothing you can hide from.
I've got my eye on you.

The clock is fast. The hour is near.
Eventful past is everclear.
My life is set. The time is here.
I think i'm coming home...
-

A hurried time, no disgrace,
instead of racing to conclusion,
wishing all your life away,
no-one can stop me now.

Time is up, it couldn't last,
but there's more things i have to do,
i'm coming back,
to try again,
don't tell me that this is the end...

[opus]

The best thing we can do to hurt JC the most is to walk away and never log in there again. We have all seen train wrecks before. Links posted to threads there only create more traffic for him. In closing, what a piece of **** Jon Caputo is and will probably always be.

[CigarDood]

Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

[DBall]

Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

I don't think that's anything relevant to here... the team of 11 are the only mods and I'm pretty confident that they know what they are doing. Hell... more posts at poof have been closed/deleted in the last month than in the prior year and a half the 11 were running the show over there.

[SeanGAR]

Well, I've decided to only go to that site on days when I'm wearing a brown shirt.
.
.
.
I don't own a brown shirt.

I don't think that's anything relevant to here...

Exactly. The owners here are whats called "smart".

[Blueface]

WOW!!!
Ran off to see my favorite band, The Eagles, and I can't believe all that took place in between.

Dave and Tom banned.
I wonder if my access still works but won't dare go there.
Erased the link.

Hey, I got 4 points for posting a thread "No Drama/No Bashing" and it only contained freaking crickets.:r:r:r

After my response to the PM, can't imagine me being able to log back on at all.

[poker]

Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

No worries. We have never really been heavy handed with moderating boards (unless we banned you before LOL). :r

[DBall]

Dave and Tom banned.



Not banned, but had their password scrambled (also their emails changed so they can't reset the passwords, then lied to about it)... easily one of the most cowardly things I have seen done on cigar boards. Seriously, if you're going to ban someone, why not just be a man and ban them?

This speaks volumes of the new regime over there.

Again, things like this never happened under the 11 (and I'd feel safe saying they never would).

[taltos]

When the good lord was passing out brains, I have no clue where JC was.He thought that the good lord said train so jc was trying to turn a profit selling bus tickets.:fl

[Da Klugs]

Smart? Nah... well maybe the other 10. The pertinent difference is that we are products of the culture, got mentored by those that came before us, served as volunteers to something we loved, and have those burdens to balance against the desires we all get as humans to lash out when things get dicey. Probably the most important distinction is.. we came for the cigars, stayed for the friendships.

What we are seeing there is pretty straightforward. The reason for rules is to strike a balance between individual freedom of speech and the greater good of the community. When it's a community with reasonable rules designed to serve the community, that everyone can understand, if not agree with, the implementation and enforcement of the rules is mostly done by the members of the community. When it's a one man for profit show and the rules become fluid, there is no firm footing or moral ground to stand on and you end up with a business vs a community. Puffer fish? How about Customers?

As is on display in this situation, no one owns this community. The URL that houses it is of minor importance and as you all have demonstrated, is easily replaced for a pittance financially if those who serve it administratively get to full of them(our)selves.

[floydpink]

For some reason, I see little Jonnie Capoots running around sticking his thumb in the leak and trying in a panic to patch the next one that is springing up next to it, all the while telling his admiring wife that he has it under control.:r

[BC-Axeman]

Well, I've decided to only go to that site on days when I'm wearing a brown shirt.
.
.
.
I don't own a brown shirt.



Exactly. The owners here are whats called "smart".
Does khaki count?:ss

[taltos]

I would hate to think that anybody would write jc's advertisers and advise them on how well their advertising dollars are being spent.:ss

[Blueface]

I would hate to think that anybody would write jc's advertisers and advise them on how well their advertising dollars are being spent.:ss

I know one of those advertisers personally.
He has been warned.

[chippewastud79]

I know one of those advertisers personally.
He has been warned.

Now if we can just warn the other 4308274 advertisers he has paying for the site. :hm

[King James]

Now if we can just warn the other 4308274 advertisers he has paying for the site. :hm

Don't tell the cheese guys... I'm waiting for some good deals :rolleyes:

[replicant_argent]

Don't tell the cheese guys... I'm waiting for some good deals :rolleyes:

You live in Cheeseland, you should be able to get it for cost.
:rolleyes:

[Scottw]

Don't tell the cheese guys... I'm waiting for some good deals :rolleyes:


:r:r:r:r the cheese guys, that's great!

[Asher]

Ah, heck: "You have been banned for the following reason: drama

Date the ban will be lifted: Never"

Probably because I dinged joncaputo's RG for one of his less-than-friendly posts . . .

[icehog3]

Ah, heck: "You have been banned for the following reason: drama

Date the ban will be lifted: Never"

Probably because I dinged joncaputo's RG for one of his less-than-friendly posts . . .

No worries, I am guessing RG will be reset within the next few weeks.

[King James]

Well apparently anything anybody does that goes against the past/present/future feelings, thoughts, ideas, plans of Jon Caputo gets filed away as drama and will likely result in you being banned.

HOWEVER, if you would like to stay..... all you must do is kiss his ass in a few threads and express your support for him publicly...heck, maybe you can even become a future mod if you ass kiss enough

Stay classy

http://www.hereinreality.com/funnystuff/otherstuff/brownnose.jpg

[taltos]

I would not be surprised if I get banned for posts made here.

[pnoon]

I would not be surprised if I get banned for posts made here.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[icehog3]

Stay classy

http://www.hereinreality.com/funnystuff/otherstuff/brownnose.jpg

Is that Dick, Jim?

Because Dick Knows. :)

[Blueface]

Well apparently anything anybody does that goes against the past/present/future feelings, thoughts, ideas, plans of Jon Caputo gets filed away as drama and will likely result in you being banned.

HOWEVER, if you would like to stay..... all you must do is kiss his ass in a few threads and express your support for him publicly...heck, maybe you can even become a future mod if you ass kiss enough

Stay classy

http://www.hereinreality.com/funnystuff/otherstuff/brownnose.jpg

:r:r:r

Those methods seem so reminiscent of 1959 in Cuba.:D

I just wonder how many new posts there will be if everyone is banned at the rate they are going.

My curiosity makes me wonder if I got banned after my PM response to that new mod after receiving my four points for posting crickets.

Someone let me know.

[Blueface]

I would not be surprised if I get banned for posts made here.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Has happened Peter.
One member asked for it, he go it.

[taltos]

:confused: :confused: :confused:By little Caesar jc. Sorry for the confusion.

[piperman]

No worries, I am guessing RG will be reset within the next few weeks.

Ring Gauge? I don't think anyone looks at that anymore over there all the cool kids are gone.

[pnoon]

I would not be surprised if I get banned for posts made here.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

By little Caesar jc. Sorry for the confusion.

I was :confused: by your post.

I thought you meant you would be banned from here for posts made here.
Upon reflection, I see you meant banned from pvff for posts made at CA.

[King James]

Ring Gauge? I don't think anyone looks at that anymore over there all the cool kids are gone.

oh if anything people care even more.... should see how some react to a ding.... like the loss of RG marks the end of the world.

Post count and RG are ALL that matters.... duhhhh!

[replicant_argent]

http://atf.dillanweems.com/pics/stiles.jpg

[rizzle]

http://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/f25a/InternetSeriousbusiness2.jpg

[King James]

Oh I would not be surprised that if Jon doesn't do enough reading here himself that he has little ass kissing minions who report back to him about stuff said both here and there. Maybe Jon even throws 'em a treat and says "good boy" (Poof Mods this is not describing you guys)

Infact, I was informed my asylum joke I put in the jokes thread over there was reported by members.... I can only guess which members those were :rolleyes:

[piperman]

Hmm snitches, I guess I just went through a time warp to junior high.

[rizzle]

Obviously if I were going to do it I wouldn't first announce it here. Please, the good lord gave us all brain cells, use yours.

Cheers,
Rob
Sorry for misinterpreting your innerweb bravado. Maybe you have more brain cells than I give you credit for.

Cheers,
Brain Cell Non User

[Andyman]

Not possible..
Maybe you have more brain cells than I give you credit for.

[replicant_argent]

Not possible..

Snitch...



:rolleyes:;):r:r:r

[Andyman]

Oh you just didn't! :bx
Snitch...



:rolleyes:;):rr:r

[Lucky_Hippo]

Looks like the DRAMA forum was moved underground so only Mods and Admin can read it after a suggestion about negative threads not looking so hot to new members.

hmmmm... :hm

Maybe they should move John's comments undergound too. They were way more offensive than anything else I've read over there.


What can I say, the guys a weiner!

[piperman]

Looks like the DRAMA forum was moved underground so only Mods and Admin can read it after a suggestion about negative threads not looking so hot to new members.

hmmmm... :hm

Maybe they should move John's comments undergound too. They were way more offensive than anything else I've read over there.


What can I say, the guys a weiner!
I posted in there and said now hiding threads that could be devastating. They don't listen.

[rizzle]

Not possible..
Works for me...

[LasciviousXXX]

What made me SERIOUSLY sad was that he moved RJS's thread on the origins of CS out of public view... sadness.

Rob deserved better

[JKim]

sad news indeed Dustin.... Hey how long would it take you to ask a question in every thread? Pretty soon there will only be one forum populated with any threads.

[Blueface]

sad news indeed Dustin.... Hey how long would it take you to ask a question in every thread? Pretty soon there will only be one forum populated with any threads.

:r
Well, if one gets banned per post, we need to figure out how many threads and how many volunteers to keep it going.:r

Don't count on me. I have 4 points.:r

[King James]

What made me SERIOUSLY sad was that he moved RJS's thread on the origins of CS out of public view... sadness.

Rob deserved better

any one save that thread on their computer?

[SeanGAR]

Club Stogie is dead, nothing remains, what is over there is a **** board operated by a **** head internet bully who has a Napoleon complex, and as noted earlier, µPS.

I feel bad leaving the 'how long will my clutch last' contest ... that's my sole thought turning my back and never going there again.

But I'm not interested in putting up with that ******* **** ....**** 'em.

This is our new home and a darned good one at that.

[The Professor]

any one save that thread on their computer?
negative ... and it's not in the "wayback machine" either. have any of the mods invited Rob here? perhaps he would find this place in the spirit of the CS he helped start. :2

[DBall]

What made me SERIOUSLY sad was that he moved RJS's thread on the origins of CS out of public view... sadness.

Rob deserved better

True, but there's nothing left there even vaguely resembling what CS was. It's now nothing more than a dictatorship run by a man (or men) with an iron fist and no tolerance for differing opinions.

[The Professor]

Club Stogie is dead, nothing remains, what is over there is a **** board operated by a **** head internet bully who has a Napoleon complex, and as noted earlier, µPS.

I feel bad leaving the 'how long will my clutch last' contest ... that's my sole thought turning my back and never going there again.

But I'm not interested in putting up with that ******* **** ....**** 'em.

This is our new home and a darned good one at that.
Don't hold back, Sean. ;)

Seriously, though, I knew the last nail was hammered into the coffin when I read the new mission statement over there. Though revised since, the very fact that it made it up on the web at all spoke volumes about the direction JC was taking things. I shed a single tear and stopped because I knew I had a new home here in the Asylum.

What really makes me sad, though, is that there are some "old timers" who were around on CS for a VERY long time and it's all gone. That's just sh!tty.

[Blueface]

no tolerance for differing opinions.

Not true at all Dan.
You can in fact have a differing opinion as long as it is the same differing opinion as his.:r

[croatan]

This is our new home and a darned good one at that.
Glad to hear you say that, Sean.

--

And, honestly, that's all that matters. I know we're all sad to see CS go. But without it, we wouldn't have the Asylum and we wouldn't have the countless friends we've made over the years. I haven't logged in there since shortly after I resigned as a moderator. That's how I'd prefer to remember it. Going over there now isn't going to add anything to my life except stress, which I don't need any more of. So I say we wish it well, put it behind us, and send the agglomeration on its puffy way.

[VirtualSmitty]

What made me SERIOUSLY sad was that he moved RJS's thread on the origins of CS out of public view... sadness.

Rob deserved better

I really hope my comment about Jon taking the time to read that didn't cause it to be canned. That was a great thread, i'd feel pretty shitty about myself if I was the reason it got pulled :(

[doctorcue]

PUFF is sooooooooo 2008. I'm living in the now! :tu

[shilala]

I sent Bruce in to clean up a little bit. :r

http://home.comcast.net/~shilala/bruce2.jpg

[poker]

I know we're all sad to see CS go. But without it, we wouldn't have the Asylum and we wouldn't have the countless friends we've made over the years.


As with most things, as one door closes another one opens. I try to look at it as a blessing in disguise.


If anything, everyone can now see how a community based forum should NOT be handled.

If they ever want to ban me for any reason over there, so be it. I wont lose any sleep over it.

[King James]

I was saying the other day (and many others have said this in some form or another, probably even earlier in this thread) That all Jon took was a domain name and Louie..... the spirit and community of CS is now CA and that can't be taken.

Unless he buys CA :r

The cheese ads would be nice over here.....

[poker]

The cheese ads would be nice over here.....


I got yer cheese right here :r

[Stogieboy]

It is interesting to watch the numbers. Sad as it may be.
Currently In The Ocean: : 162 (92 Puffer Fish and 70 Lurking Puffer Fish Wanna Be's)

[poker]

Currently here:


Currently Active Users: 169 (147 inmates and 22 visitors)

[Blueface]

The cheese ads would be nice over here.....

Jim,
If there were cheese ads here, and we wanted to express our desire to remove them, would we ask for the mods to cut the cheese?:r

[Blueface]

It is interesting to watch the numbers. Sad as it may be.
Currently In The Ocean: : 162 (92 Puffer Fish and 70 Lurking Puffer Fish Wanna Be's)

Currently here:


Currently Active Users: 169 (147 inmates and 22 visitors)

Wow.
The day has come.
I was wondering when CA would exceed the other one on any given day.

Congrats to CA, the mods and all the members making it a new home.

[DrDubzz]

Congrats to CA, the mods and all the members making it a new home.

here here!

and I've come to terms with it, and removed all things related to the other place from my favorites and web addresses etc.

I'm done for good

[Da Klugs]

Wow.
The day has come.
I was wondering when CA would exceed the other one on any given day.

Congrats to CA, the mods and all the members making it a new home.

That day was October 14th, 2008. :)

I have a theory.. it's all about Tom.

Posts per month "There". Statistics from the wayback machine from the beginning and publically available information since October of last year.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3163/cspostwhoregraphvb8.jpg

Sometimes the truth is much more hurtful than any harsh words could cut. I think if it was ever litigated.. in truth the "largest" claim is in fact the left to right pixel width of the site.

[Jbailey]

Love that picture Dave!

[rizzle]

It is interesting to watch the numbers. Sad as it may be.
Currently In The Ocean: : 162 (92 Puffer Fish and 70 Lurking Puffer Fish Wanna Be's)

Currently here:


Currently Active Users: 169 (147 inmates and 22 visitors)

Wow. That didn't take long did it.

[DrDubzz]

bout what, 3 months?

[rack04]

Isn't it ironic that all my pvff.com notifications are now go directly to my email spam? Never had a problem with Club Stogie or Cigar Asylum.

[No1der]

It is interesting to watch the numbers. Sad as it may be.
Currently In The Ocean: : 162 (92 Puffer Fish and 70 Lurking Puffer Fish Wanna Be's)

Currently here:


Currently Active Users: 169 (147 inmates and 22 visitors)

Oh Snap.

Just keep in mind how much buying up CS and whatever other sites he bought cost him. Add that to the new domain, co-location and traffic fees. Factor in the graphic design company, or whomever he hired to design the look of the site and possibly someone with some site design and VB knowledge to set the place up.

Now subtract the money that unhappy advertisers will cost him when they pull their adverts from his site.

Factor in the state of the economy along with the slump in cigar sales that the economic climate has caused.

We need to also consider that puff is now less active then the brand new CA website is.

Do all the math and you're looking at "the Perfect Storm" that will result in the destruction of puff.

This "perfect storm" could be survived if the owner/admin knows how to run an online community but we all know, based on his actions thus far, that Jon is doing everything wrong.

So basically the Asshat is going to be hurting financially. One thing that we also must remember is that since puff is also a new website composed of several other websites stitched together under one banner, his Alexa rating is not nearly as good as CS or the other boards so that's not a selling point he can make to advertisers.

This is what is known as a footbullet.

Puff having an "ocean" theme is very appropriate as his ship is taking on water and will be at the bottom of the sea sooner or later. Most likely sooner.

Jon, if you're reading this, you Fugu'ed up bad and this little stunt is going to cost you a fortune. So if I were you I wouldn't count on rubbing shoulders with Rocky Patel or any other famous cigar producer.

No shoes, no shirts, no dice.

Cheers,
Rob

[King James]

But according to him Rocky and all other manufacturers are reading all our reviews over there....


lol

[Blueface]

But according to him Rocky and all other manufacturers are reading all our reviews over there....


lol

Well, we will just have to ask Rocky ourselves on 2/14.:D

[No1der]

But according to him Rocky and all other manufacturers are reading all our reviews over there....


lol

lulz, According to him he's showing us the right way to run a cigar forum like a business.

He is accomplishing this by banning the most respected members of CS. :confused:

Cheers,
Rob

[King James]

Well, we will just have to ask Rocky ourselves on 2/14.:D

Please do.....although I'm sure he is already in correspondence with Jon.

Why wouldn't he want to talk with the head honcho of the "largest cigar community on the web"?

[shilala]

That day was October 14th, 2008. :)

I have a theory.. it's all about Tom.

Posts per month "There". Statistics from the wayback machine from the beginning and publically available information since October of last year.

Sometimes the truth is much more hurtful than any harsh words could cut.
That's some serious funny, right there. :r :r :r
Maybe CA should tie up the rights to the IceHog. hehehe

[Da Klugs]

That's some serious funny, right there. :r :r :r
Maybe CA should tie up the rights to the IceHog. hehehe

We have his heart wrapped around 1500 of us. He's not going anywhere. :D

[macpappy]

I can see it now........(day dream state of mind)

Hiya Rocky! Man you make some good cigars. Me and the guys on Cigar Asylum talk about how good they are all the time.

What? Puff.com? Oh! That place! Nah. We don't go there anymore. All the good people who were members of Club Stogie left there after what'shisname ran the place into garbage.

You should visit Cigar Asylum. It doesn't cost manufacturers to be members...

[replicant_argent]

That's some serious funny, right there. :r :r :r
Maybe CA should tie up the rights to the IceHog. hehehe

Nah, if the Hog ever ends up missing, we just put his ugly mug on the back of a Stoli bottle. He will be found in a very short time.

[shilala]

We have his heart wrapped around 1500 of us. He's not going anywhere. :D
I just wanna give the big old postwhoring lug a hug. :)

Nah, if the Hog ever ends up missing, we just put his ugly mug on the back of a Stoli bottle. He will be found in a very short time.
:r :r :r

[piperman]

Everyone ought to go over there a ding JC ring gauge, I cant see how he got it so high, Oh that's right he OWNS it probably just but in a random number. I have never seen so many lock threads and now he is locking old ones.

[chippewastud79]

Everyone ought to go over there a ding JC ring gauge, I cant see how he got it so high, Oh that's right he OWNS it probably just but in a random number. I have never seen so many lock threads and now he is locking old ones.

Little Jon's RG goes up daily, by significant number, I am pretty sure he has the power to control it himself, kind of like the rest of the site and its content. :rolleyes:

[taltos]

Everyone ought to go over there a ding JC ring gauge, I cant see how he got it so high, Oh that's right he OWNS it probably just but in a random number. I have never seen so many lock threads and now he is locking old ones.I also believe but can't prove that he is lying like a rug when he says that he does not know what happened to the CS Retrospective thread. Oh well, time to go over to p*** for my goose stepping lessons.:fl

[poker]

Little Jon's RG goes up daily, by significant number, I am pretty sure he has the power to control it himself, kind of like the rest of the site and its content. :rolleyes:


Yes he can make it any number he wishes.

[piperman]

Maybe RJS's post was lost in the big crash. No probably not. He is even talking smack in visitor messages, what a dick, oops Im sorry

[taltos]

Maybe RJS's post was lost in the big crash. No probably not.Thread had been bumped up in the HOF this morning.:fl

[piperman]

If I was a little kid I would retaliate but I might get in trouble harassing a younger brat.

[LasciviousXXX]

It was definitely not lost as I posted in the thread yesterday :)

[DBall]

Everyone ought to go over there a ding JC ring gauge, I cant see how he got it so high, Oh that's right he OWNS it probably just but in a random number. I have never seen so many lock threads and now he is locking old ones.

While he has shown his true colors and I'm sure it would not be morally off limits for him to arbitrarily massage his RG to a pretty number, it would be funny to see the owner of the board w/ a -RG (even if only for a short period of time).

[Nick]

I'm going to ding that **** and see if I get banned.

[DrDubzz]

if all the old Mods gave him a quick ding, he'd be negative for at least a couple minutes

get a screen shot

ownage

[piperman]

I will ding him but I dont think he will notice I only have 400 RG

[chippewastud79]

Seems he has deleted more threads and when called out about it, denied ever being able to find it :bh

[DBall]

Seems he has deleted more threads and when called out about it, denied ever being able to find it :bh

But he used every trick he knew!

(...aside from the trick where he tells the truth, that is)

[Da Klugs]

Seems he has deleted more threads and when called out about it, denied ever being able to find it :bh

He isn't deleting anything. That would reduce his site post count/ad potential. They are there just not in a viewable location. :r

[The Professor]

It was definitely not lost as I posted in the thread yesterday :)
And I read it yesterday. :(

Hey dustin ... between you and me, we might be able to get him negative RG. Or Kelly could do it alone. :dance:



(I kid, of course)

[poker]

I would ding him, but that would be like throwing poop at the fly.

[JKim]

I just looked up Kelly's RG. It's down to 77k? wth... At any riate.. you could get him negative I'm sure but like Kelly mentioned he can write in any number he wants.

This is my theory of the missing threads. They're all in the Drama Forum behind closed doors. Now whether they are re-populated into public view depends on if someone takes the time to sort what they want to keep and what they don't.

Of course this is speculation, but it sounds about right to me.

[DrDubzz]

And I read it yesterday. :(

Hey dustin ... between you and me, we might be able to get him negative RG. Or Kelly could do it alone. :dance:



(I kid, of course)

Kelly would be what, around -7500 per ding, that would be enough

[piperman]

RG 3782 now.

[chippewastud79]

He isn't deleting anything. That would reduce his site post count/ad potential. They are there just not in a viewable location. :r

Even every trick in the book can't bring them back :rolleyes:

[DBall]

Kelly would be what, around -7500 per ding, that would be enough

:r:r c'mon Kelly... that'd be hilarious!!!!!

[Blueface]

:r:r c'mon Kelly... that'd be hilarious!!!!!

:tpd:

[JKim]

unfortunately.. I tihnk Kelly's ding would only hit him for 400 now... Ding is half the power of a boost. I think Kelly could give an 800 point boost right now.

[Blueface]

unfortunately.. I tihnk Kelly's ding would only hit him for 400 now... Ding is half the power of a boost. I think Kelly could give an 800 point boost right now.

I think I am good for around a couple hundred?
Would go back there for that.
What was that link again?:r:r:r