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Milvel
04-01-2013, 11:58 AM
Hi new friends!

Has anyone had a partagas 150 from Cigar.com? I'd love to order from then but I'm hesitant about authenticity since the price seems kinda low compared to every other place I've found then. Any thoughts?

themoneycollector
04-01-2013, 12:35 PM
They are very reputable. As long as you're willing to spend that amount, I wouldn't worry about ordering from them. Ofc if you really are interested in some, I'm sure some members from here could offer you some for much less than their price, wink wink.

Milvel
04-01-2013, 01:11 PM
They are my father's favorite smoke of all time so I don't mind the price if that's what i have to pay and its the real deal. I also didn't want to hop on a new forum trying to buy/sell without peeps knowing who I am first. That's not to say I wouldn't be down at some point to buy or trade with you fine people!

mosesbotbol
04-01-2013, 01:20 PM
Are they the same as the 150 Anniversary that came out in like 1995?

Milvel
04-01-2013, 01:21 PM
Are they the same as the 150 Anniversary that came out in like 1995?

The ones on Cigar.com say they are from 1995, yes.

mosesbotbol
04-01-2013, 02:49 PM
The ones on Cigar.com say they are from 1995, yes.
What are you expectations?

Milvel
04-01-2013, 03:03 PM
What are you expectations?

To not be buying a knock-off.

The last place I found these cigars they wanted $100 a piece and the very next day they were sold out..Now I find a site that has them but they only want $65 a stick (Which is great news for me if they are legit).

The reason I'm worried: The same site offers Opus X A's for $70 a stick NEW. If that's the case why wouldn't a legit Partagas 150 sell for more than $65?

Maybe I'm over analyzing the situation, but since this is all online and not in a B&M store I can't help but think something is a tad off.

bobarian
04-01-2013, 03:12 PM
100% legit dealer. There is no way they would risk their reputation to sell a few fakes. If these meet your price parameters, I would not hesitate to try a few and see if your dad likes them. :2

T.G
04-01-2013, 03:16 PM
To not be buying a knock-off.

The last place I found these cigars they wanted $100 a piece and the very next day they were sold out..Now I find a site that has them but they only want $65 a stick (Which is great news for me if they are legit).

The reason I'm worried: The same site offers Opus X A's for $70 a stick NEW. If that's the case why wouldn't a legit Partagas 150 sell for more than $65?

Maybe I'm over analyzing the situation, but since this is all online and not in a B&M store I can't help but think something is a tad off.


Cigar.com is completely legit. IIRC, their Opus X prices are higher because they aren't an Opus X account and can't buy direct from Fuente, so they have to get them from other vendors who are.

Milvel
04-01-2013, 03:17 PM
100% legit dealer. There is no way they would risk their reputation to sell a few fakes. If these meet your price parameters, I would not hesitate to try a few and see if your dad likes them. :2

I just ordered 4... Here's hoping they are as amazing as he remembers!

Milvel
04-01-2013, 03:17 PM
Cigar.com is completely legit. IIRC, their Opus X prices are higher because they aren't an Opus X account, so they have to get them from other vendors who are.

Good to know, thanks!

mosesbotbol
04-02-2013, 05:35 AM
Please let us know what he thinks. That's quite an old for an NC Partagas.

RevSmoke
04-02-2013, 06:58 AM
I just ordered 4... Here's hoping they are as amazing as he remembers!

The Partagas 150 was an amazing smoke in the day. Remember, an aged cigar, especially one almost 20 years old, will not be the same as what he remembers.

Just smoked a couple cigars I put away when my son was born, kept them till his 18th birthday. They were incredibly good. They were not what they were however. They were smoother and some of the distinctive flavors were muted. It was like the competing flavors had learned to play well together. They were however more complex than they had been, in a very subtle way.

I would loved to have been able to go back in time and smoke one of them fresh as well as the aged one.

Milvel
04-02-2013, 08:48 AM
The Partagas 150 was an amazing smoke in the day. Remember, an aged cigar, especially one almost 20 years old, will not be the same as what he remembers.

Just smoked a couple cigars I put away when my son was born, kept them till his 18th birthday. They were incredibly good. They were not what they were however. They were smoother and some of the distinctive flavors were muted. It was like the competing flavors had learned to play well together. They were however more complex than they had been, in a very subtle way.

I would loved to have been able to go back in time and smoke one of them fresh as well as the aged one.

I learn something new everyday! Thank you for the quality info! I never stopped to think how different a 20yr old cigar would taste compared to its own fresh version.

Milvel
04-02-2013, 08:52 AM
Please let us know what he thinks. That's quite an old for an NC Partagas.


May I ask what."NC" means here? I've seen it in several posts as well as "HERF" and both have me confused.

emopunker2004
04-02-2013, 08:55 AM
May I ask what."NC" means here? I've seen it in several posts as well as "HERF" and both have me confused.

NC meand Non-Cuban

RevSmoke
04-02-2013, 10:08 AM
I learn something new everyday! Thank you for the quality info! I never stopped to think how different a 20yr old cigar would taste compared to its own fresh version.

By the way, I loved the Partagas 150s fresh. I wish I would have purchased more of them and maybe even saved a couple - I didn't. And, at $65 a cigar, as much as I am curious, I am not going to splurge that much coin to find out.

I am curious to see what your father thinks. Hopefully you will update us with his thoughts.


Herf = gathering together for fellowship and cigars. Don't know where it came from, but that is the meaning of it as we have come to know it.

Milvel
04-02-2013, 10:25 AM
By the way, I loved the Partagas 150s fresh. I wish I would have purchased more of them and maybe even saved a couple - I didn't. And, at $65 a cigar, as much as I am curious, I am not going to splurge that much coin to find out.

I am curious to see what your father thinks. Hopefully you will update us with his thoughts.


Herf = gathering together for fellowship and cigars. Don't know where it came from, but that is the meaning of it as we have come to know it.

I will let you know how it goes in October when we smoke them! Also, I purchased four so if your curiosity gets the best of you, and it's allowed here, we could work a trade of one!

pnoon
04-02-2013, 10:27 AM
I will let you know how it goes in October when we smoke them! Also, I purchased four so if your curiosity gets the best of you, and it's allowed here, we could work a trade of one!

Trading is allowed here.

Access to the WTS/WTT sub-forums are automatically granted after a brief period of time and participation. What happens via private messages (PMs) is your own doing.

Milvel
04-02-2013, 10:30 AM
Trading is allowed here.

Access to the WTS/WTT sub-forums are automatically granted after a brief period of time and participation. What happens via private messages (PMs) is your own doing.

Coolio. :D

RevSmoke
04-02-2013, 10:32 AM
I will let you know how it goes in October when we smoke them! Also, I purchased four so if your curiosity gets the best of you, and it's allowed here, we could work a trade of one!

I appreciate the offer, but I do not see me offering $65 worth of cigars, or anything else for that matter, for one stick - no matter how curious I might be.

Like I said, I do appreciate the offer.

pektel
04-02-2013, 10:38 AM
I don't think anyone really knows where herf came from. I tried researching it once. The only semi-definitive fact I learned was the word's first online usage on alt.smokers.cigars back in 1996. But even then, it was used to refer to the draw of a cigar, and not the expanded meaning it has today.

mosesbotbol
04-02-2013, 12:14 PM
I think the Partagas will be papery and clean tasting like some other old NC's I have smoked. Not a ton of flavor, but no bad aftertaste and a delicate smoke. I could be totally wrong on the 150's and feel free to tell me so.

Remember that the wrappers on the 150th were like 13 years old already and that Partagas back then were using well aged tobacco throughout the cigar.

Milvel
04-02-2013, 12:26 PM
I think the Partagas will be papery and clean tasting like some other old NC's I have smoked. Not a ton of flavor, but no bad aftertaste and a delicate smoke. I could be totally wrong on the 150's and feel free to tell me so.

Remember that the wrappers on the 150th were like 13 years old already and that Partagas back then were using well aged tobacco throughout the cigar.

I did not know that, MB. I've fairly new to the cigar game and tend to cling to Fuente stuff since that's the stuff I know and like the best so far. I'm sure he will enjoy the experience and the flash back he'll get when we smoke these bad boys. I really love the collector aspect of cigars! I've tried my best in the past 18 months to buy things most people can't get their hands on with a tiny bit of success, but now I'm lacking stuff I can smoke!

I do love the Liga line, the Davidoff Colorado Claro and the Le Bijou are all pretty solid smokes but mannnn I love me some Opus! Speaking of Opus - Does anyone frequent the cigar shop in Las Vegas (Casa Fuente)? I go to Vegas once a year and always seem to forget to stop by.

mosesbotbol
04-02-2013, 01:57 PM
I'd only go into the Fuente Shop to buy cigars if the tables were hot. That's a lot of money for cigars, best for "easy come, easy go" money.

Fuente and Davidoff both excellent cigars. Try the Don Carlos line from Fuente; they were their top of the line cigar before the Opus came out. The Opus was a big deal because the wrapper was from the DR and previously no one had real success with DR wrappers. Don Carlos is a Cameroon wrapper (if not mistaken), which are quite flavorful.

RevSmoke
04-02-2013, 02:12 PM
I think the Partagas will be papery and clean tasting like some other old NC's I have smoked. Not a ton of flavor, but no bad aftertaste and a delicate smoke. I could be totally wrong on the 150's and feel free to tell me so.

Remember that the wrappers on the 150th were like 13 years old already and that Partagas back then were using well aged tobacco throughout the cigar.

Interesting. Most of the older NCs I've had which were papery and clean, were cigars that were improperly stored and had dried out some. Also, I had a few with some age one them which were rolled since 2000, or to my cigar calendar, more recent cigars - which seemed to have that problem.

Older stuff seemed to age better. I had a couple cigars lately that were 15 years old or better, a couple that were 18 years old. Very nice smokes.

Here's a question for you mosesbotbol. (I have a theory in mind) Do you like fuller bodied and/or strong cigars? In other words, could the training your palate has undergone been formative in your reaction to older cigars as being papery and clean? (Mind you, I am not saying it is, just speculating out loud)

mosesbotbol
04-02-2013, 02:36 PM
Here's a question for you mosesbotbol. (I have a theory in mind) Do you like fuller bodied and/or strong cigars? In other words, could the training your palate has undergone been formative in your reaction to older cigars as being papery and clean? (Mind you, I am not saying it is, just speculating out loud)

Actually I am a medium at best smoker. I use to like them stronger/fuller in my younger years... Being a Habanos fan, they are not as strong as many NC's.

The top NC's tend to use older tobacco than Cuba, so they are already ahead of the game. Add significant box aging and you mileage will vary. Several NC brands don't even talk about box aging being necessary.

RevSmoke
04-02-2013, 02:44 PM
Actually I am a medium at best smoker. I use to like them stronger/fuller in my younger years... Being a Habanos fan, they are not as strong as many NC's.

The top NC's tend to use older tobacco than Cuba, so they are already ahead of the game. Add significant box aging and you mileage will vary. Several NC brands don't even talk about box aging being necessary.

Hmm, I guess that shoots that theory.

I will be curious to see how this all plays out.

RevSmoke
04-05-2013, 07:21 AM
So, did you pick up the 150s? I know you did not smoke them yet, but how do they look?

Milvel
04-05-2013, 08:44 AM
I received them on Wednesday, Rev. They were very hard and had darker than normal wrappers. I talked it over with a buddy of mine who has had 150s in the past and he thinks they are real but probably weren't taken care of properly. He has a buddy that offered to sell him a few so when those come in I'll take side by side shots so yall can see what I'm talking about. Overall, I'm a little bummed by the product I received for the price I paid but I have 6 months to revive these mofos before my father's birthday so there's still hope.

RevSmoke
04-05-2013, 09:49 AM
Don't be too disappointed. They were fairly dark, it was a nice Cameroon wrapper on these bad boys. As far as hard, as long as they are not crisp, that my not be a problem either. They do firm up a bit sometimes as they age.

Milvel
04-05-2013, 10:19 AM
Don't be too disappointed. They were fairly dark, it was a nice Cameroon wrapper on these bad boys. As far as hard, as long as they are not crisp, that my not be a problem either. They do firm up a bit sometimes as they age.

That's good to know. I'll post some pictures when the other 150s come in and hopefully by then my attempt are reviving will have started to take effect.

mosesbotbol
04-05-2013, 10:24 AM
That's good to know. I'll post some pictures when the other 150s come in and hopefully by then my attempt are reviving will have started to take effect.

Don't go out of your way to do anything with them. Just put in a humidor and let time take its course. Cigars are seperated by shade, so the box they had were just darker ones; not a reason of concern.

I don't think the 150's had Cameroon wrappers, but I could be and am often wrong...

Milvel
04-05-2013, 11:16 AM
I'm a giant cigar noob, but I thought the original wrapper was very very light colored like Davidoff stuff? Unless they made two different versions of the 150 in both types of wrapper? Either way, my father hasn't smoked one in YEARS so I highly doubt he'll remember every detail. I think it will be more about the experience than anything else.

RevSmoke
04-05-2013, 11:31 AM
Don't go out of your way to do anything with them. Just put in a humidor and let time take its course. Cigars are seperated by shade, so the box they had were just darker ones; not a reason of concern.

I don't think the 150's had Cameroon wrappers, but I could be and am often wrong...

34 year old Cameroon wrapper. That was the special-ness of that cigar.

Here is one write up. In 1995, master cigar maker Ramón Cifuentes released a limited quantity of Partagas 150 Signature Series cigars to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the acclaimed Partagas brand. Amongst the rarest cigars ever produced, these beauties are embellished with a rare reserve of aged, vintage African Cameroon wrapper leaves harvested from a 1977 crop. A combination of rich, medium-bodied, well balanced flavors and an enticing aroma will delight your senses, creating an enjoyable smoking experience never to be forgotten.

RevSmoke
04-05-2013, 11:32 AM
I'm a giant cigar noob, but I thought the original wrapper was very very light colored like Davidoff stuff? Unless they made two different versions of the 150 in both types of wrapper? Either way, my father hasn't smoked one in YEARS so I highly doubt he'll remember every detail. I think it will be more about the experience than anything else.

Here is a link with a picture of one. http://www.stogieguys.com/2007/04/04052007-stogie-reviews-partagas-150.html

They were nowhere near as light colored as Davidoff stuff. Again, this was a Cameroon wrapper, so at the very lightest, it would have been a caramel color.

Milvel
04-05-2013, 11:51 AM
http://oi46.tinypic.com/4t1w5i.jpg


http://oi47.tinypic.com/2d1tlz6.jpg

Here are the two pictures I took on Wednesday of the 150s. :noon

*edit - turned into pictures instead of links because I'm smart!

mosesbotbol
04-05-2013, 03:23 PM
34 year old Cameroon wrapper. That was the special-ness of that cigar.

I knew wrappers were old, but what kind I was not sure.

Milvel
04-13-2013, 08:45 AM
Rev, I smoked one of these yesterday with a buddy and THEY WERE AMAZING. I'm definitely glad I made this purchase.

RevSmoke
04-13-2013, 05:08 PM
Rev, I smoked one of these yesterday with a buddy and THEY WERE AMAZING. I'm definitely glad I made this purchase.

They were astounding smokes when they were fresh.

Glad you enjoyed them!

Boomer
04-14-2013, 11:26 AM
May I ask what."NC" means here? I've seen it in several posts as well as "HERF" and both have me confused.

A "Herf" is where a bunch of guys get together to smoke cigars, swap cigars and lies, and talk smart. Maybe even have a drink.:noon

wchurst
05-12-2013, 09:51 PM
Chris....Did you stop at only 1 of the P-150's ?!? :-)

In case you didn't, I've got a full chest of them in my Humi...I might have to part with them, so let me know if you run out before Oct !

Cheers,
Walter

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