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shilala
09-29-2012, 02:43 PM
***Official as in I couldn't find a football thread that wasn't team slanted, and so as not to hog up those threads with standard NFL tripe, here we are. :)

This is a new story (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Jerry-Jones-Dallas-Cowboys-Americas-Joke-football-distractions-092812) about an old mess, "what the Cowboys have become since Jimmy Jones left".
It's really a great article and it's worth a read.
I agree with it almost wholly, except that I'm not a Jerry Jones fan. At all. I used to not be able to stand him, but that's passed years ago. Now his ego and inattention to what was once an amazing franchise just saddens me.
With his money he could put the best football minds in that organization and nobody would ever touch them. Instead, they're a joke.

TJarv
09-29-2012, 02:54 PM
I don't want to believe what's written in that article, but he's pretty spot on.

shilala
09-29-2012, 04:24 PM
It was a woman that wrote that article, Tony.
I always blamed the Jerry/Jimmy split up on Jerry, for obvious reasons. Mainly that Jerry wanted to tell him how to coach and run the team the way he saw fit, and Jimmy having none of it.
I never gave much thought to the marketing side influencing why Jerry can't make prudent football decisions, but it makes good sense. As Jerryworld grows, the Cowboys continue to sag.
He can't hire a real coach because a real coach wouldn't work for him.
It really does suck, bad. I'd just like to see the Cowboys competitive so I could take greater joy in the getting beat. ;)

TJarv
09-29-2012, 04:38 PM
I think the cowboys have a very smart man as a coach, but he's someone who gets told what to do. If they had a coach like Coughlin, Tomlin, Reid, or many others they wouldn't last long bc they wouldn't give in like big red does.

As a lifelong Cowboys fan it hurts to watch season after season of Jerry running this team as if its just a money machine, instead of putting a quality product on the field.

shilala
09-29-2012, 05:21 PM
He puts a LOT of talent on the field, Tony. They've had the pieces for many years, just not a coach and GM to make that talent mesh.
It's funny, too. He's really proud of that team. After all these years he HAS to know what the problem is. It sure ain't a run of bad luck. With the proof of their on-field performance and everyone in the world telling him he needs to get out of his own way, I wonder if we'll ever see it happen?

Justinphilly
09-29-2012, 06:19 PM
Not that the Eagles are going to do anything special for awhile, but Dallas hasn't got a chance with Romo at the helm. He has a lot of talent, but his numbers late in the year are terrible. I hope this isn't misconstrued as a Dallas Hating Post. As much as I hate Dallas, I try to be realistic. And before anyone says anything about Vick's #'s, I hate that him too. So save your breath. Lol

shilala
09-30-2012, 10:30 AM
We're not hatin' in here, Justin. Just talking football. :tu

I can't think of a recent year where Romo had all his pieces around him so he could make a strong finish. It's been one thing or another for a long time.
He's a good qb, but he's not been tried by fire. I've seen him fall apart in games that really meant nothing, so I don't know if he has the fortuity to be a playoff/super bowl qb. If I was forced for my opinion, without giving it any more thought, I'd say no, he's not cut out of championship material. I'd like to see his team get healthy late (one of these years) and make a run to see if he can carry a team.

Justinphilly
09-30-2012, 11:57 AM
Nice, I'm glad we have a good conversation. Sometimes it's difficult to discuss sports as an Eagles fan to a Cowboys fan.

icehog3
09-30-2012, 12:13 PM
Nice, I'm glad we have a good conversation. Sometimes it's difficult to discuss sports as an Eagles fan to a Cowboys fan.

I don't like the Eagles, but I don't want to denegrate Eagles' fans.

If you are an Eagles fan, denegrate means "to put down".

:noon :r

Justinphilly
09-30-2012, 12:18 PM
Lol. Somebody should denegrate Mike Vick please.

icehog3
09-30-2012, 12:22 PM
Lol. Somebody should denegrate Mike Vick please.

Permanently. :r

Justinphilly
09-30-2012, 12:23 PM
Permanently. :r

Denegrate him 6ft under. Actually no, make it 20 ft under. Because I hear "deep down" he's a good person.

Gophernut
09-30-2012, 12:29 PM
Lol. Somebody should denegrate Mike Vick please.

From what I can see, it's already in progress what with him getting beat up every game. Has he played an entire season since he got back into the league?

As for the Cowboys, couldn't happen to a better organization. Just the latest example of how a man who thinks he knows the game because he's an owner. The smart owners get a professional in to run the team. His ego won't let that happen. In fairness, I don't like the Cowboys. Drew Pearson pushed off....

Justinphilly
09-30-2012, 12:31 PM
He's played only 1 complete season since he started in the NFL.

Gophernut
09-30-2012, 03:23 PM
Nice win by my Vikings in Detroit today. Christian Ponder is looking like he might be a serviceable QB in this league.

kelmac07
09-30-2012, 03:24 PM
Buffalo blew a huge opportunity today. Decided not to even show up in the second half. :td :td :td :td

shilala
09-30-2012, 07:15 PM
Nice, I'm glad we have a good conversation. Sometimes it's difficult to discuss sports as an Eagles fan to a Cowboys fan.
I'm not a Cowboys fan by any means whatsoever. My blood runs Black and Gold, brother!!! :tu
I'm a fan of good football, and the talent of individual players. The only person I'd really like to see run out of the NFL is Rex Ryan, and it looks like he's taking care of that for me. w00t!!!

shilala
09-30-2012, 07:16 PM
Buffalo blew a huge opportunity today. Decided not to even show up in the second half. :td :td :td :td
Shame how Buffalo folded up like a cheap tent, but it was nice to see Tom Brady turn on the precision carving game. When he's on, he's an amazing thing to watch. :tu

maninblack
09-30-2012, 07:56 PM
I'm just glad the Chefs keep losing. Have always despised that team. Sad to see the Saints at 0-4. Not sure even having Payton back would help.

shilala
10-02-2012, 10:57 AM
Welp, it looks like the Jets are backed up in a corner already.
Sanchez went 13/29 for 103 yards, 0TD, 1INT. A QB rating of 39.9.
Had Miami not handed them a gift, they'd be 1-3. I'm not even sure what Buffalo is doing, that club is messed up, bad.
I don't think this game is the straw that breaks the camel's back, but they have the Texans, Colts, and Patriots up next. The rest of their schedule is exceptionally tough. They look like a 6-10 team at best, 8-8 if the stars all line up for them.
They just signed Aaron Berry, they're going to rehab him and shore up their secondary to make up for Revis.
That team should be a zoo for the rest of the season.

Gophernut
10-02-2012, 12:54 PM
They look like a 6-10 team at best, 8-8 if the stars all line up for them.

Either way is Ryan gone at the end of the season?

shilala
10-02-2012, 03:09 PM
Either way is Ryan gone at the end of the season?
I think that boils down to asses in seats. If the stadium is still full and they're selling jerseys, there's a good chance he's still there.
Depends how his contract reads, too.

shilala
10-07-2012, 04:26 PM
Does Donovan McNabb look just like Homer Simpson, or what?

Justinphilly
10-07-2012, 04:36 PM
Doh!

Mattso3000
10-07-2012, 05:50 PM
Impressive comeback for the Colts...looks like Luck is the real deal.

Brian D.
10-07-2012, 05:51 PM
Bengals = Bungles today.

icehog3
10-07-2012, 06:16 PM
Peanut Tillman and Lance Briggs score INT TDs for the second week in a row.

The Bears' defense is one of the top offenses in the NFL. :r

kelmac07
10-07-2012, 06:41 PM
It's official and early this year...my Bills suck. :bh :bh

shilala
10-07-2012, 06:53 PM
Your Bills sure didn't need to run into San Fran today, Mac. They're cranking up a monster.

Bruins Fan
10-08-2012, 05:36 AM
Pats are finding their stride :D

shilala
10-08-2012, 11:12 AM
The Pats are starting to come together on Defense, John. If that clicks, they'll have a good shot at going deep in the playoffs.
I think this week's games were a good measure of a lot of teams, the Pats being one of them.

fhrblig
10-15-2012, 11:04 PM
I LOVE YOU PEYTON MANNING! :banger:banger

LostAbbott
10-15-2012, 11:12 PM
Is anyone else flat out amazed how much the game has become so QB centric? I just cannot believe how well D has shut down running games all over the league in the last ten or so years and there are no longer superstar RB's like Walter, Barry, or even Emmit... I love to see good hardnosed running Offenses and i was hoping the Texans had a chance to be that but with their complete shut down Sunday night I don't know that there is much left.

Is there a chance for anyone to be a Superstar RB again?

E.J.
10-16-2012, 08:36 AM
I am equally pleased with the Broncos win and Phillip Rivers total collapse, a player who just rubs me wrong. To have him put 2 on the grass & throw 4 to the Broncos was epic. What a comeback, most of which I didn't see, because I had conceeded the loss and turned it to the baseball game.

Go Broncos & quit digging early game holes please!

Blak Smyth
10-16-2012, 08:40 AM
Is anyone else flat out amazed how much the game has become so QB centric? I just cannot believe how well D has shut down running games all over the league in the last ten or so years and there are no longer superstar RB's like Walter, Barry, or even Emmit... I love to see good hardnosed running Offenses and i was hoping the Texans had a chance to be that but with their complete shut down Sunday night I don't know that there is much left.

Is there a chance for anyone to be a Superstar RB again?

I think if the Skins can keep using the run game we could see rookie Alfred Morris really shine as a classic hard hitting RB with some nice moves.

TJarv
10-28-2012, 12:12 PM
HATE the uni's the Steelers are wearing today

Malakai
10-28-2012, 12:23 PM
+1

I was like wtf are they wearing

LostAbbott
10-28-2012, 12:34 PM
Time for the Seahawks to start a win streak. All the hard road games are over, so now is the time to start letting Wilson show what he can do and see how many teams they can roll....
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icehog3
10-28-2012, 03:36 PM
Tim Jennings does it again....2 pics including a pic-6. He was Defensive player of the month for Sept. Should be player of the week this week, after Peanut Tillman was player of the week after the last 2 Bears games. 6-1, Baby.

fhrblig
12-02-2012, 06:29 PM
AFC West champs baby!:banger

BHalbrooks
12-03-2012, 02:17 AM
Either way is Ryan gone at the end of the season?
I don't think so. I think they're going to trade Tebow (I'd hope anyways), and start to try to find another starting over Sanchez. More and more are seeing that he's completely garbage, and always will be.
AFC West champs baby!:banger
I am really enjoying watching Peyton find his rhythm again.

Already tired of hearing about the Chiefs LB that killed himself. I've yet to hear more sympathy for the innocent Girlfriend he gunned down. Sad story, but they're milking it. :2

Texans are having a great year as well, hope to see them in the SB, even if that means my Pats don't make it.

Bruins Fan
12-03-2012, 04:28 AM
The Patriots clinch the AFC East title with their sixth straight win.
Not bad for a team missing two pro Bowlers and playing back ups to the back ups all over the field.
I see a deep run into the playoffs coming:D

Bruins Fan
12-03-2012, 07:37 PM
I think John Gruden wants to take a long hot shower with RG3?

shilala
12-04-2012, 09:57 AM
I think John Gruden wants to take a long hot shower with RG3?
Gruden does gush a bit. It sure isn't just over RG3, he's ecstatic about pretty much everything. lol

shilala
12-04-2012, 10:09 AM
I don't think so. I think they're going to trade Tebow (I'd hope anyways), and start to try to find another starting over Sanchez. More and more are seeing that he's completely garbage, and always will be.

I am really enjoying watching Peyton find his rhythm again.

Sanchez has just gotten worse and worse as the year rolls on. I think there was a big sigh of relief that Tebow was inactive and they got to play McElroy this weekend. I don't believe Tebow is much of a qb, but there is no possible liklihood that he could play any worse than Sanchez. None. Zero. Even McElroy immediately produced a touchdown.
That organization goes nowhere until Rex Ryan is scraped off. Period.

I am THRILLED for Peyton. I knew he'd succeed if his body held up and they've done a great job of protecting him in Denver.
On the other side of that coin, what Andrew Luck has done with the Colts? Unreal. I mean, seriously. Which is the bigger story? Which is the bigger individual accomplishment?
I had no idea that Luck would take the Colts to 8-4. If someone would have said that when the season started I would have laughed at him.
If someone would have said Peyton will have the Broncos at 9-3, I'd have agreed, or at least not batted an eye.
It's quite a story in Indy, and Luck really has gotten very little stroke for the enormity of what he's done up there.