Dream humidor construction in progress- help?!

[Robulous78]

So a new co-worker and friend of mine Darrell happens to have experience building cabinetry / jewelry boxes / display cases ect.... I rough sketched plans to him and he became very enthusiastic about our project to build my dream humidor. I will do my best to describe the dimensions and design and I have/ and will inevitably have more questions... I'd love any and everyone's feedback in this endeavor....

DESCRIPTION: (to the best of my abilities)

The Humidor internal dimensions are Height:17in Width:18in Depth: 8in
The Humidor (more or less) consists of 3 parts,
--Base: containing 1 accessory Drawer (non humidified), Humidification bay, slotted overlay, and 8in wall for box storage, the Wall is of single slot and groove design upon which the next layer rests.
--Single storage: 5in wall with stops that allow top portion of humidor to be removed to allow direct access to box storage,this portion will contain 2 trays with the dimensions 2.5in x 18in x 8in
--Lid : Humidification bay of 1 inch for bead storage resting on slotted panel directly over single storage, then a 1 in hardwood top.

QUESTIONS: (HELP!)

1) Anyone know of a good place to get wood? (ha)
2) Does the inside HAVE to be lined with Spanish Cedar? or will just Cedar work? How thick of a lining?
3) Darrell thinks a 1/4 inch wall, and tongue and groove seals separating the compartments will hold humidity, anyone know/have anything to say about this?
4) What beads should I use? everyone on here seems viciously loyal to their bead brands.

ANY AND ALL CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS WELCOMED AND GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!

Thanks Guys,

Rob

[md4958]

The Humidor internal dimensions are Height:17in Width:18in Depth: 8in

ANY AND ALL CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS WELCOMED AND GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!

Thanks Guys,

Rob

If youre going to have a custom humidor built, GO BIGGER.

You'll thank me later.

[squishy]

First off just wanna say 2 things. 1 the project seems like a grat idea I cant wait to see how it turns out. 2nd I love Sylva. I just moved back to Florida from Brevard well Rosman to be exact but few know that lil place. I wish I was still in the upstate area.

As far as your second question is concerned spanish cedar would be the BEST to use. It last longer and holds the humidity much better. I myself have one of each. I would say that if you are gonna go for it then do it right and go for the spanish.

As far as wood is concerned there is a really good place here in orlando to get some. I will check into it on the morrow and let you know prices and availability. I dont know if they have a web site or not but its ok because you know ppl here lol.

Good luck and cant wait to see pics!!!!

[zemekone]

if youre going to have a custom humidor built, go bigger.

You'll thank me later.

exactly!

[Robulous78]

Thanks Everyone for the Help & input... Yea Squishy get back to me on that if you don't mind. I appreciate the help!

As for going bigger... This is already a 6 to 7 x jump from where I am now... how big is too big? and how big is really necessary?

[Zane]

Thanks Everyone for the Help & input... Yea Squishy get back to me on that if you don't mind. I appreciate the help!

As for going bigger... This is already a 6 to 7 x jump from where I am now... how big is too big? and how big is really necessary?

If you build it...... They will come..... Meaning you will fill it up... So make something Big enough to last you a few years.

[md4958]

Thanks Everyone for the Help & input... Yea Squishy get back to me on that if you don't mind. I appreciate the help!

As for going bigger... This is already a 6 to 7 x jump from where I am now... how big is too big? and how big is really necessary?

6 x7 is great... if youre talking feet!! :r

Seriously, go bigger.

[md4958]

. how big is too big? and how big is really necessary?

That really depends. How long have you been "seriously" smoking cigars. How many cigars do you smoke per week on average?

Do you plan on collecting, and or ageing cigars?


There is not hard and fast formula, its different for every person.

[Robulous78]

That really depends. How long have you been "seriously" smoking cigars. How many cigars do you smoke per week on average?

Do you plan on collecting, and or ageing cigars?


There is not hard and fast formula, its different for every person.

Maybe a cigar a day, sometimes 2 if i really feel it. But i admit I have a bit of a hoarding problem. I keep one stick from every blend I smoke telling myself someday I'll write a review on it... I am just waiting to finish the preparation of my cigar journal/blog.... so with my holding onto one of several brands I am already brimming 2 desk humi's way above capacity, but with robustos mostly....

I think my dimensions should hold about a 3 month supply with the ability to age specific sticks if i wanted to... or i could move ageing sticks out to one of the other desk humi's I already have...

I really want a wineador but my funds just wont cover it... Darrell says he can get this done just south of a hundred bucks.... throw in 50 for beads and an agreed upon "steak dinner" for Darrell's efforts and I think I can get this done for around 175... Which seems reasonable when i estimate the dimensions will hold around 400 sticks.... but thats a rough guess.... (anyone have a different opinion? )

So I don't know, Thoughts? Feedback? It all helps the cause....


Thanks Md4958,

Rob

[Robulous78]

If you build it...... They will come..... Meaning you will fill it up... So make something Big enough to last you a few years.

LoL ZaneG, Cracking me up... Maybe if I build it big enough the casino across the road will host a herf if I keep hounding them...

[T.G]

The Humidor internal dimensions are Height:17in Width:18in Depth: 8in


If youre going to have a custom humidor built, GO BIGGER.

You'll thank me later.

Moe is wise.



QUESTIONS: (HELP!)

1) Anyone know of a good place to get wood? (ha)
2) Does the inside HAVE to be lined with Spanish Cedar? or will just Cedar work? How thick of a lining?
3) Darrell thinks a 1/4 inch wall, and tongue and groove seals separating the compartments will hold humidity, anyone know/have anything to say about this?
4) What beads should I use? everyone on here seems viciously loyal to their bead brands.

ANY AND ALL CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS WELCOMED AND GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!

Thanks Guys,

Rob


1) www.woodfinder.com (http://www.woodfinder.com)
2) Spanish Cedar and Cedar are two totally different animals. Spanish Cedar is actually a hardwood in the mahogany family, cedar is a softwood in the cypress family. Spanish cedar gets it's name from the aroma of it's wood when cut, and that's where the similarities end. Cedar is so pungent that it will likely overpower the natural flavors/aromas your cigars within less than a year, possibly as quickly as within a few months. It's also debatable how well cedar holds a humidity range that is ideal for cigars. There can also be issues with the soft wood leaking sap. Best bet, just get Spanish cedar or mahogany to line the humidor.
3) I've seen it accomplished with a thinner piece, so 1/4" is probably fine.
4) Either hcmbeads.com or Heartfelt.com They work a bit differently but produce similar results. Each has some unique characteristics, either will serve you well.

[pnoon]

2) Spanish Cedar and Cedar are two totally different animals. Spanish Cedar is actually a hardwood in the mahogany family, cedar is a softwood in the cypress family. Spanish cedar gets it's name from the aroma of it's wood when cut, and that's where the similarities end. Cedar is so pungent that it will likely overpower the natural flavors/aromas your cigars within less than a year, possibly as quickly as within a few months. It's also debatable how well cedar holds a humidity range that is ideal for cigars. There can also be issues with the soft wood leaking sap. Best bet, just get Spanish cedar or mahogany to line the humidor.

:tpd:

Do NOT use regular cedar for a humidor. Spanish cedar (mahogany) is the way to go.

[Big Bert]

I'll side with everyone else on this i've only been into cigars for over a year and i have one 120 count desktop, one 16 bottle wine cooler and it keeps growing.... Good luck in your build!!

[Remo]

Go BIG, had my buddy build me a 200 ct. desk top, it is full along with a cooler. Here is my one off desk top :tu

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[jdakine]

As stated, Bigger is Better.

[Robulous78]

Go BIG, had my buddy build me a 200 ct. desk top, it is full along with a cooler. Here is my one off desk top :tu

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Awesome pictures, Awesome Build... Anyone else have any personally crafted humidors they wanna share? I'm always looking for design ideas/ improvements...

So I get it... Bigger... My second design looks less like a humidor and more like an old dinner cart with caster wheels, and additional tray, and 8in more depth and height, my only concern is that once I get this thing built it will take a year to fill it... lol

My paycheck comes this Thursday, and we are going parts/supply shopping saturday, so I have to make a decision soon...

Any words of advice or encouragement always appreciated,

Thanks everyone & Good Smoke,

Rob

[lilninjabuddy]

Absolutely, 100% use spanish cedar, and not "regular" cedar!

And I would recommend 1/2" thick, personally. Most cheap Chinese-manufactured humidors utilize 1/4" and it just isn't thick enough to do the job.

[GTsetGO]

check and see if you have a woodcraft store in your area


http://www.woodcraft.com/Stores/Default.aspx


i made mine out of black walnut and used 1/4" SC to line it.

[Robulous78]

check and see if you have a woodcraft store in your area


http://www.woodcraft.com/Stores/Default.aspx

Unfortunately there aren't any near me. Thanks for the help though...

[GTsetGO]

there's one in knoxville and one in greenville.

not too sure how far they are from you.

[Robulous78]

there's one in knoxville and one in greenville.

not too sure how far they are from you.

Knoxville might be the way to go... thanks GTsetGO....

[cmitch]

:tpd:

Do NOT use regular cedar for a humidor. Spanish cedar (mahogany) is the way to go.
Let's put a huge ditto on that. A store in Mt. Juliet, TN lined their walk in humidor in American Red Cedar. I really feel sorry for the loss of product when that aroma kills them.

[bighairlogo]

ya knoxville is the closest unless you want to wait until im in the Atlanta area i can go to Hardwoods Inc. they are pretty cheap.
or you can try this
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=569&rrt=1

[CRIMPS]

much, much bigger.

Look for specialty/hard wood stores in your area. You can order it online as well, from the links provided. But, Im betting you have a source in the viscinity.

much bigger... yeah....

[Robulous78]

So let me start by saying I am in no way an architect...

But to show my plans better I drew the following plans... anyone who cares to look them over and provide feedback it will be greatly appreciated...

As for the bigger, much bigger comments, as the plans show this is a Modular system that can be expanded by adding extra tray housings, as it stands now, this set up is a good 7 times bigger then what I am currently dealing with so I feel it will do me well for now, but I did take your expansion recommendations into account and when space starts running low I will add space as needed.

So without further adieu, Here are my plans...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8298/7981038992_78f0b98f21.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7981038992/) Plans- Front View (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7981038992/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8310/7981037074_9d93b21a66.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7981037074/) Plans- Side View (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7981037074/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8317/7981038104_ef88d432f1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7981038104/) Plans- Interior View (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7981038104/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

Once again, I know these drawings are crude sketches but hopefully this will give you an idea of what I am thinking... let me know what you think! :)

Thanks Everyone,

Rob

[Robulous78]

I am also open to suggestions on what the outside hardwood should be, seems locally we can find some red oak and a decent price.... Thoughts?

[Robulous78]

think of the tongue and groove portion for expansion as a "bee keepers hive" that allows for additional storage to be added... Maybe I should call it the bee hive humidor....lol

[Robulous78]

Let's put a huge ditto on that. A store in Mt. Juliet, TN lined their walk in humidor in American Red Cedar. I really feel sorry for the loss of product when that aroma kills them.

I appreciate and will heed this warning, no way I am going to spend my hard earned moolah to ruin my sticks, that is why I am asking for everyone's input, and I appreciate yours....

Thanks,

Rob

[Robulous78]

:tpd:

Do NOT use regular cedar for a humidor. Spanish cedar (mahogany) is the way to go.

I know that you posted this a few days ago, and I appreciate the input, Definitely won't use regular cedar... but that's not why I reposted/quoted this,

I just wanted to say thanks for reading and your input pnoon, from what I can tell your a very active member on here, and one of the Eleven (which I take to mean your one of the creators) and I appreciate your time in my newb endeavors...

Any more helpful hints or words of advice are greatly appreciated, and check back often as I will be loading pictures as the actual construction begins... Darrel and I are going shopping for supplies tomorrow so construction will begin soon!!!

Thanks again pnoon / Everyone,

Rob

[bighairlogo]

looks good man, im excited to see this bad boy when you start working on it.

[pnoon]

I know that you posted this a few days ago, and I appreciate the input, Definitely won't use regular cedar... but that's not why I reposted/quoted this,

I just wanted to say thanks for reading and your input pnoon, from what I can tell your a very active member on here, and one of the Eleven (which I take to mean your one of the creators) and I appreciate your time in my newb endeavors...

Any more helpful hints or words of advice are greatly appreciated, and check back often as I will be loading pictures as the actual construction begins... Darrel and I are going shopping for supplies tomorrow so construction will begin soon!!!

Thanks again pnoon / Everyone,

Rob

My pleasure, Rob.
While I am one of the owners and admins of Cigar Asylum, that does not make me any more of an expert than anyone else. There are others more knowledgable and competent in the construction arts. I just happen to know that regular cedar is bad for humidors.

I do look forward to the pictures.

[jluck]

In the last pic....I would not do the 45 degree "tray supports" personally, I think it would add unnecessary awkwardness to putting in and removing cigars,boxed or unboxed. I would just use a small (1/2") square stock type runners to support tray on.

[CRIMPS]

Looking forward to seeing the progress. :tu

[Blak Smyth]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8317/7981038104_ef88d432f1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7981038104/) Plans- Interior View (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7981038104/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

Once again, I know these drawings are crude sketches but hopefully this will give you an idea of what I am thinking... let me know what you think! :)

Thanks Everyone,

Rob

If I am understanding your support frames, they would waste some valuable real estate. You may want to just run a piece flush with the side wall :2 Or even just a square dowel in each corner to rest on.

[Robulous78]

If I am understanding your support frames, they would waste some valuable real estate. You may want to just run a piece flush with the side wall :2 Or even just a square dowel in each corner to rest on.

In the last pic....I would not do the 45 degree "tray supports" personally, I think it would add unnecessary awkwardness to putting in and removing cigars,boxed or unboxed. I would just use a small (1/2") square stock type runners to support tray on.

Thanks for the advice jluck & Blak Smyth,

I know nothing about woodworking, so I originally thought those cross-members would be necessary for structural strength, After taking your recomendations to Darrell he also feels the cross members are unnecessary... Glad I posted my plans for review by you guys... :)

Thanks again,

Rob

[Robulous78]

VERY QUICK QUESTION,

Does anyone know if red oak is an appropriate wood for the exterior? the only reason I ask is because Darrell says it is decently priced and we are giving thought to using it for the exterior... I ask because I don't want any smells or tastes to be transferred through the inlay wood to my sticks, and once again, I know nothing about wood or woodworking....

Thanks everyone for your help, a few quick replies to this question would be great seeing how Darrell and I are going shopping in about 4 hours...

Looking forward to your input,

Rob

[jluck]

VERY QUICK QUESTION,

Does anyone know if red oak is an appropriate wood for the exterior? the only reason I ask is because Darrell says it is decently priced and we are giving thought to using it for the exterior... I ask because I don't want any smells or tastes to be transferred through the inlay wood to my sticks, and once again, I know nothing about wood or woodworking....

Thanks everyone for your help, a few quick replies to this question would be great seeing how Darrell and I are going shopping in about 4 hours...

Looking forward to your input,

Rob

Exterior finish is purely aesthetic (as far as I know), Use something that you like to look at.:tu

[T.G]

From what I've seen, it seems that you can use just about any wood you want for the exterior.

[Robulous78]

So 60 dollars later I have these 2 pieces of red oak for an exterior... the local Lowe's doesn't sell spanish cedar (surprise) so I will have to find the inlay online...

Anyone care to help me price match square footage of spanish cedar from the online sources you know?

Seriously Guys, thanks for all your help, input and support....

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8041/7983860917_ba852347a6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7983860917/) Future humi (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7983860917/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

[Ncpsycho]

Go BIG, had my buddy build me a 200 ct. desk top, it is full along with a cooler. Here is my one off desk top :tu

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Does your buddy sell these-- pm me if he would do another one for a fellow LEO

[Robulous78]

This is his and my first build.... once mine is done I'm sure he'd be open to making another one.... if you are commenting on the pictures in your quote that would be Remo_5_0 's humidor and his buddy... so you'd have to ask him....

[Boz]

Let's put a huge ditto on that. A store in Mt. Juliet, TN lined their walk in humidor in American Red Cedar. I really feel sorry for the loss of product when that aroma kills them.

:fp

[Robulous78]

So... a few days have past and I NOW have return plans from Darrell,

He envisions a 21" x 22" x 9" monster... :) His plans might be a little hard to see from the camera, But I am excited...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8320/7990720695_80af86a8d5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7990720695/) Overall & bottom drawer (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7990720695/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

This Page gives a rough overlook with detail to the bottom drawer that will be used to hold my accessories, cutter, lighters ect...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8447/7990694739_12a1285e51_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7990694739/) Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7990694739/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

This Page gives a look at the over all dimensions of the compartments and the height, a rough calculation gives me the estimate of 4158 cubic inches of humidified storage.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8033/7990732178_6bb41c97f6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7990732178/) Joints view (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/7990732178/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

This page shows the joints he will be making, the lid, and the different lid styles he is offering me... :)
As the joints show the sections will stack on top of each other and will allow for future sections to be added if needed...

To all that are keeping up with my build I appreciate your interest and input... anyone who has anything they want to say feel free to give me your opinions...
Darrell is starting on the box construction...
step 2... finding reasonably priced Spanish Cedar Inlay and trays... Thoughts?

Thanks guys and Pleasant Puffs,

Rob

[Robulous78]

So Darrel has been busy... I am extremely pleased to show the bottom floor of my Humidor... This shows our base the drawer slot and the bottom humidification bay and the grooves that the second and 3 layers will rest on...

So here they are...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8171/8008231276_05e516ebaa_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8008231276/) Bottom View, Drawer & Humidification bay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8008231276/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8447/8008231770_64fb6aa5a1_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8008231770/) Drawer Closeup 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8008231770/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8301/8008227259_5d23d7cfd3_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8008227259/) Groove (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8008227259/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8447/8008226107_4c4bb35c9e_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8008226107/) Humidification bay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8008226107/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8313/8008226601_b053866594_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8008226601/) Side view (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8008226601/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

[bighairlogo]

looking like some good progress, cant wait to see more updates :tu

[Shawn hines]

Looking good, I am subscribed.

[Robulous78]

Looking good, I am subscribed.

Thanks Man... I really appreciate your interest in my build. Darrel is still working on my 2nd and 3rd sections and I am hunting down Spanish Cedar to line it... but we will have more pictures in about a week...

Subscriptions = Smiles :)

[Shawn hines]

Thanks man, Just remember that most of us can't read so we like to look at pretty pictures.

[Robulous78]

Thanks man, Just remember that most of us can't read so we like to look at pretty pictures.

Rest Assured... Ill be posting pics as we complete every step of the way... I used to be just a cigar on an occasion smoker...Then thanks to my neighbor and these forums I am now up to 1-2 cigars a day... This project is an undertaking so that I can improve on that... and have the space to store it all also...

Thanks for your interest Shawn... Ill be sure to provide many pictures....

Rob

[Blak Smyth]

Thanks man, Just remember that most of us can't read so we like to look at pretty pictures.

It is true, thanks for the update pics. Looking good so far.

[Robulous78]

It is true, thanks for the update pics. Looking good so far.

Thanks for dropping in Blak Smyth... more pics will be up this weekend probably... :D

[Robulous78]

More pics... a few days sooner then I had expected... Darrel made some more saw dust today...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8038/8024763784_7045e05338_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8024763784/) Humidor 013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8024763784/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

Here we can see my second layer... The humidification beads will go in the bottom in the 1.5 inch pocket between the base and this layer... when completed this layer will have a Spanish Cedar slatted bottom...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8457/8024765579_62f0ff9720_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8024765579/) Humidor 012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8024765579/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

Darrel can sure make some good slots. you can barely make out the seams where these 2 parts will separate...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8030/8024765871_31ac325ff6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8024765871/) Humidor 011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8024765871/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

On top of this section goes one more wall section attached to a lid... Darrel took this picture to show how my drawer will be flush with the front and side faces... We are going to get pop release tracks to run the drawer... so no need for a pull or other hardware...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8456/8024764548_e0913df512_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8024764548/) Humidor 010 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8024764548/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

My baby as it stands now... Darrel will start on the next 8 inch tall wall that goes on top of it next, followed by the lid... Which means I am getting ever closer to having to find Spanish Cedar without it costing me an arm and a leg... Anyone have suggestions? / Comments? I'd love to hear them...

[squishy]

Looking good for sure there man

[Robulous78]

Looking good for sure there man

Thanks for the encouragement Squishy... :D

[bighairlogo]

glad to see some progress, its looking good :tu

[Robulous78]

glad to see some progress, its looking good :tu

Thanks Tyler... just another handful of weeks and she'll be mine to take home... :D :D

[TJarv]

Looking nice, are you going to put any kind of finish on the wood

[Robulous78]

Looking nice, are you going to put any kind of finish on the wood

That is where Darrel and I differ... he feels that all the outer hull needs is a few clear coats to accentuate the patterns of the red oak... I on the other hand feel a nice stain and some clear coats are the way to go... I have been looking at a few stains and what not... but if you have any recommendations I'd love to hear them...

[TJarv]

I think it would look nice either way. Yall picked out a nice piece of wood that has alot of grain running through it.

[Robulous78]

I think it would look nice either way. Yall picked out a nice piece of wood that has alot of grain running through it.

Much appreciated... yea we took every piece of red oak that Lowe's had off the shelf... sorted our way through 20 or more boards and this is the winner... I just think it needs a stain to give it a darker color to match my bar... I haven't seen many "natural grain" finished humidors... I don't know if it will go well with the rest of my stuff...

[TJarv]

Much appreciated... yea we took every piece of red oak that Lowe's had off the shelf... sorted our way through 20 or more boards and this is the winner... I just think it needs a stain to give it a darker color to match my bar... I haven't seen many "natural grain" finished humidors... I don't know if it will go well with the rest of my stuff...

If you're looking to have it match your bar then I would stain it a similar color:tu

[Robulous78]

Yea... well my bar is really dark... and given the moolah I spent on the wood I do want it to show some grain pattern... so I guess I am going to go with the same tone... just a bit lighter...

[Justinphilly]

I like when things match, but aren't identical. I like the idea of same tone but lighter color. Can't wait to see it when its done.

[longknocker]

That is where Darrel and I differ... he feels that all the outer hull needs is a few clear coats to accentuate the patterns of the red oak... I on the other hand feel a nice stain and some clear coats are the way to go... I have been looking at a few stains and what not... but if you have any recommendations I'd love to hear them...

I Personally Like A Strong Sheen. The More Clear Coats, The Better, IMO. The Outside Wood Will Probably Soak That Stain & Clear Coat Up, Big Time!:tu Looking Good, Rob!:)

[Robulous78]

I Personally Like A Strong Sheen. The More Clear Coats, The Better, IMO. The Outside Wood Will Probably Soak That Stain & Clear Coat Up, Big Time!:tu Looking Good, Rob!:)

Thanks Longknocker :tu

It's DEFINITELY going to have a lot of clear on it... the question is to stain or not to stain...

Anyone that has experience with red oak or woodworking in general want to weigh in on this?

Thanks guys,

Rob

[maninblack]

Go BIG, had my buddy build me a 200 ct. desk top, it is full along with a cooler. Here is my one off desk top :tu

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Looks empty Mike. Tsk, tsk.:r

[longknocker]

Thanks Longknocker :tu

It's DEFINITELY going to have a lot of clear on it... the question is to stain or not to stain...

Anyone that has experience with red oak or woodworking in general want to weigh in on this?

Thanks guys,

Rob

Rob: This Is My Brazilian Cherry & Ebony Humi That Ed (WaxingMoon) Built For Me Several Years Ago. I Think He Put 3 Coats Of Stain & 12 Coats Of Clear On It. The Wood Really Soaks It Up!:)

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab159/tallg/New%20Humidor/DSC_0078.jpg

[Robulous78]

Rob: This Is My Brazilian Cherry & Ebony Humi That Ed (WaxingMoon) Built For Me Several Years Ago. I Think He Put 3 Coats Of Stain & 12 Coats Of Clear On It. The Wood Really Soaks It Up!:)

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab159/tallg/New%20Humidor/DSC_0078.jpg

Yea that is definitely the color tone I am going for...but just a lot (no offense) LOT more glossy... I want my humidor to double as a mirror... LoL :D

[iaMkcK]

Got any new updates for us, Rob?

[Robulous78]

Well I do and I don't... Darrel is still working on it and has made good headway he says but he won't let me see it... I think he is going for shock and awe and I am completely ok with it... So unfortunately no pictures but he did say he ordered the lid hardware as well as the slides for my accessory drawer... Other then that we are kind of at a stand still till I get my money together for the half inch chat inlay... My estimates are 150.00 worth of it from Rockler so it might take a minute as all good things do...

Thanks for the interest! :)

Rob

[iaMkcK]

Can't wait for some pics when they arrive. Looking forward to it, Rob.

[Robulous78]

GOOD NEWS!!!!!

So after 1 CRAZY, and let me emphasize CRAZY Weekend of running drunks back and forth from the hotel to the casino I have enough money to make my Spanish Cedar order from Rockler...

Placing the order Monday so Darrel will have all he needs to wrap up my box except for the finish and finishing touches...

Meanwhile I am starting to consider humidification options... I feel that with the money I have spent... Kitty Litter is definitely out of the question... So that leaves 2 options as far as I can tell... HCM Beads or Heartfelt...? Feel free to give me your opinions...

I'll be needing a whole pound either way... And I'll admit I am biased toward HCM beads because Shilala is a member here and I want to support a fellow Inmate... However, the pollster in me wanted to have some other opinions weigh in (forgive me Shilala)...

So there you have it... HCM vs. Heartfelt... Discuss...

[longknocker]

GOOD NEWS!!!!!

So after 1 CRAZY, and let me emphasize CRAZY Weekend of running drunks back and forth from the hotel to the casino I have enough money to make my Spanish Cedar order from Rockler...

Placing the order Monday so Darrel will have all he needs to wrap up my box except for the finish and finishing touches...

Meanwhile I am starting to consider humidification options... I feel that with the money I have spent... Kitty Litter is definitely out of the question... So that leaves 2 options as far as I can tell... HCM Beads or Heartfelt...? Feel free to give me your opinions...

I'll be needing a whole pound either way... And I'll admit I am biased toward HCM beads because Shilala is a member here and I want to support a fellow Inmate... However, the pollster in me wanted to have some other opinions weigh in (forgive me Shilala)...

So there you have it... HCM vs. Heartfelt... Discuss...

I Prefer Shilala Beads, Rob. That Is What I Use Along With Some Boveda Packs. Actually: I Believe Michael (CigarNut) Has Taken Over The Business. Send Him A PM; He's A Great Guy & Also Member Here.:tu

[jluck]

I Prefer Shilala Beads, Rob. That Is What I Use Along With Some Boveda Packs. Actually: I Believe Michael (CigarNut) Has Taken Over The Business. Send Him A PM; He's A Great Guy & Also Member Here.:tu

X2!! HCM all the way!

[iaMkcK]

GOOD NEWS!!!!!

So after 1 CRAZY, and let me emphasize CRAZY Weekend of running drunks back and forth from the hotel to the casino I have enough money

Haha! I know that feeling man! The night you posted this was my birthday.. I was staying at a Casino for the night.. And BAM, made up several hundred.. Enough to buy a few dozen cigars... And.. Cover the down payment on my Waxing Moon Humi. :-D

$50 hands of blackjack? Sign me up.

[Robulous78]

IT ARRIVED!!!

My Rockler order came in yesterday! $150.00 dollars later I have all the Spanish cedar needed for my humi's lining and trays...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8479/8162730517_5f8fb0e278_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8162730517/) Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8162730517/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

These 3 Pieces and 14 more... 17 total... of 5in wide, 24in long, 3/8's in thick Spanish Cedar...

Between Mark's (Conch Republican) bomb and this I feel like its Christmas... :D

[WaxingMoon]

Thanks Longknocker :tu

It's DEFINITELY going to have a lot of clear on it... the question is to stain or not to stain...

Anyone that has experience with red oak or woodworking in general want to weigh in on this?

Thanks guys,

Rob

Hi Rob.... It's good to see this......

As for the Red Oak... you may want to try what is known as "fuming".... this will darken the oak significantly without using stains.... Pick up one of those totes with a lid that your box will fit in. Then, using cool whip containers or jar lids or whatever you can find.... pour some amonia in them.... put the humidor in the tote, seal the lid and leave it be for a couple days...

The amonia reacts with the tanins in the oak.... and oak is heavy in tanins - and it will darken it up, naturally.... for a gorgeous look.

The ammonia fumes will disapate.... and not present a problem.

My example below is in White Oak.... but, I'm sure red oak would do the same....

Before:

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn88/evsallee/0119121518.jpg

After:

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn88/evsallee/0206121853a.jpg

[Robulous78]

I Just wanted to add... How awesome it is that Ed, (Waxing Moon) of Waxing Moon Humidors, stopped in on my thread to offer some advice... Thanks Ed... :tu

[Robulous78]

So tonight I came into work and Darrel had a surprise for me... my first spanish cedar tray...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8064/8212243579_43381cac02_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8212243579/) Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8212243579/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

I am so excited... :D I can't wait to see the rest...

[Robulous78]

So Darrel Gave me some more pictures tonight so I thought I'd share them with everyone...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8200/8220476720_41ac78e094_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8220476720/) Acc. Drawer (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8220476720/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

This shows the front view of my box as well as my accessory draw to hold my cutters, lighters, finger bags, and Notebook...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8206/8219394763_a683de1f14_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8219394763/)
Side View (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8219394763/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

This shows the side of my humi, the recessed handles for the middle section and the buckles that latch the bottom and middle together...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8204/8219394555_6c39c70bac_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8219394555/) Inner View (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8219394555/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

This View shows the interior with my 3/8's Spanish Cedar lining, the lip that will overlap the section that goes ontop, the inner rest for the tray, and the groove that seats the outer hull of the humi...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8483/8220476204_7e91481202_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8220476204/) Inner View 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8220476204/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

This shows pretty much the same as the previous but with my 3/8's thick tray in the bottom resting on the inner catch...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8205/8219394187_6071e98d3a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8219394187/) Bottom Tray (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8219394187/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

This shows the tray removed from the bottom...

With 3/8's lining, and 3/8's thick trays, that means my sticks will be surrounded by 3/4's an inch of Spanish Cedar... I can't wait to see what that does for aging...

I AM SOOOO EXCITED.... I can't wait to see what Darrel has in mind for the finish... !!!

[Robulous78]

So to give everyone an idea of where this is heading... on top of this goes another section the same height as the middle, which will have a catch and room for 3- 2 inch deep trays, then an inch thick 4 sided "breadboard" top with 3/4's inch recess and grate for upper humidification, and will have both a lock and a magnetic seal to be extra tight...

The bottom tray catch also leaves 3/4's an inch room for lower humidification as well...

another buckle latch will join the middle section to the top and the next section will have recessed handles as well...

[Robulous78]

FYI -New pictures are 1 page back...

[Zane]

FYI -New pictures are 1 page back...

Looking good!

[dwoodward]

1) Anyone know of a good place to get wood? (ha)
2) Does the inside HAVE to be lined with Spanish Cedar? or will just Cedar work? How thick of a lining?
3) Darrell thinks a 1/4 inch wall, and tongue and groove seals separating the compartments will hold humidity, anyone know/have anything to say about this?
4) What beads should I use? everyone on here seems viciously loyal to their bead brands.


1) Anywhere you can get it. My local menards actually sells spanish cedar, it's expensive tho.

2) You can substitute a little mohagany instead of cedar, but your cigars won't get that great cedar smell nor does it protect against worms. Regular cedar isn't very good, it doesn't absorb as well and has a strong woody odor.

3) I can't say for sure since I don't build humidors, but I don't think this would have too much of a problem. I wonder about how far moisture gets absorbed tho, you might have a little loss if it absorbs further than 1/4". PM Waxingmoon on these forums, Ed is pretty knowledgeable, he should know.

4) I'm not going to recommend one brand or another since this always leads to a fight on the forums. But both brands do their job very well. I will say tho that (Disclaimer: IN MY EXPERIENCE) recharging heartfelt beads is far easier than hcm beads, however hcm beads seem to last longer on a single charge, so take your pick.

[Zane]

How is this coming?

[Robulous78]

How is this coming?

Going well Zane... Darrel has had a few things come up here and there and the weather hasn't always been with us but he things it will be done around Christmas... Thanks for asking... :D

[Big Bert]

So far it looks awesome... keep it up!!!

[Zane]

Christmas has come and gone! Where is it!

[Robulous78]

LoL Zane, yea I know... Darrel has had a few hurdles in his life lately that has slowed our progress... His wife underwent an operation that didn't go so well... then an emergency room trip... then a long recovery... He is hoping to make some progress soon... and so am I but as you know, life gets in the way from time to time... let me assure you and everyone else... this project is not forgotten, it will get finished... and there will be more pictures as soon as we get a few more things done...

Thanks for checking in on this, Zane... :tu

[Fordman4ever]

Can't wait to see the finished product. Looks like its going to be a HUGE humidor.

[irratebass]

How about an update Roberto?

[Zane]

Yeah Rob! We all want to see it. I feel like its being made for me I am so excited!

[Confuzed]

I got to this late but you can lay a coat of laquer between the spanish cedar and oak. this will seal the oak. You don't want to do this to your spanish cedar..it would be nasty.

Everything else has been answered really.. If you build one in the future, check your local lumber mills. They will have a larger variety and you won't have to pay department store prices.

You can save money by using a cheaper wood for the outside box and lay veneer over it..still line with spanish cedar or another mahogany, though. You could buy some exotic wood, have your friend use a bandsaw to cut several thin planks and then joint/plane them..this will allow you to save money and use any wood you want for the exterior without breaking the bank.

Looks like it's turning out well. Nice project.

[Zane]

*cough* update *cough*

[Robulous78]

Well... No new news yet... but Darrel did set some time aside for the following week... So hopefully there will be more progress to show soon... :tu

[Robulous78]

Ok... Good news fella's... Darrel's wife is out of the hospital and things are looking up... :tu

Darrel says he is going to get back to work on it soon which should only put this a few weeks from being completed... :D

I'm excited... :lr

[BHalbrooks]

Any update?

[Robulous78]

Well... I spoke to Darrel and he says its all assembled and is now being lacquered... shouldn't be much longer I hope...

[Zane]

Well... I spoke to Darrel and he says its all assembled and is now being lacquered... shouldn't be much longer I hope...

Woohoo!

[Robulous78]

So this is a week or 2 late but here is how it all ended up...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8546/8680262258_99e9046bb0_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8680262258/) Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8680262258/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

The Finish is not what I had in mind, but I must say as the days pass it is growing on me...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8543/8680258686_877dbcb23c_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8680258686/) Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8680258686/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

The Seasoning process... Lined with 1/4 inch Spanish Cedar... I gave it 1 good wipe with a fresh sponge and distilled water, then left the tupper wear of distilled inside with trays for 3 hours... then gave it one more through rubdown and again left the tupper wear of distilled inside... Notice the magnetic sealer strip Darrell channeled into the top... closes tight like a glove...

The following day I gave the 3 trays 2 separate rubdowns and then removed the tupper wear of distilled and placed the radio controlled weather sensor, verified to be accurate by another hygrometer, inside, allowing me to keep temp and RH tabs wire free and without opening the lid...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8536/8679142269_056abb2f29_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8679142269/) Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8679142269/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

Did I mention it has an accessory drawer? :D

The RH went high but after 3 days settled to a comfortable 65% and held it for 24+ hours...

Before you guys get all crazy...

http://dyom.gtagames.nl/5790/tobecontinued.jpg

[Robulous78]

LANDING PARTY!!!!!


DRAWER 1
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7377/8730182007_3117d333d5_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8730182007/) IMG_0988 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8730182007/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

DRAWER 2
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7343/8730181475_e8786e1d20_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8730181475/) IMG_0987 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8730181475/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

ACCESSORIES DRAWER
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8535/8679140185_a06353fe27_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8679140185/) Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/86665059@N08/8679140185/) by Robulous78 (http://www.flickr.com/people/86665059@N08/), on Flickr

So there you have it... my collection all nice and neat... Makes me so happy... and as an added bonus I still have room for a bunch of box storage or an additional 4 trays If I want to have them built....

Thanks to all that have contributed to educating me in this <ahem> "pass-time" .... :lr I feel lucky to be a member here and to know you all...

[big_jaygee]

looks damn good Rob :tu

[Lockspur]

That thing is HUGE!! Nice job, fellas!

[Fordman4ever]

Looks awesome.

[Big Bert]

this turned out great!!!! awesome build...

[Sadden]

It also looks kinda empty....

[equetefue]

That looks great Rob! More pics please