Official SEC Football Thread 2012

[SvilleKid]

Anyone up for a Bama/LSU game bet? I'll put up a fiver from my coolers (will give a choice of several to chose from). My bet is Bama wins. No point spread. Simple win-lose bet. Bama loses, I'll send you a fiver. Bama wins, you send a fiver to one of the troop coordinators.

I will accept up to 10 takers. I'll either lose up to 50 sticks and shipping costs, or the troops will gain 50 sticks. Only rule I'll impose, "You have to have at least two positive trade feedbacks.

Members betting LSU will beat Bama:

1. Icehog
2. BHalbrooks
3.
4.
5.
.....

Thanks. If LSU wins, I'll also ship a fiver to the troops (as well as to you).

[hammondc]

I think Bama will win, but I only bet on a sure thing and NOTHING is for sure in the SEC.

[pnoon]

I think Bama will win, but I only bet on a sure thing and NOTHING is for sure in the SEC.

Nothing is for sure in sports - college or pro.
:2

[OLS]

Man you'd think at least a few haters would take you up on the offer.

I guess The Haters all have him on ignore.

[OLS]

Keep scratching Les, you'll find your brain in there somewhere.......

How in the world does your kick team NOT see that they need to call off the fake?
It's not like you have all the wrong personnel in there to kick the ball. Wasted 3 points.

[Powers]

I guess The Haters all have him on ignore.

Brad, I gotta say, not a big fan of using the ignore button in a friendly football rivalry thread. Especially - as you have acknowledged - u tend to ramble in a way that can rub others the wrong way. To be honest, a couple years ago I wanted to put you on ignore but I didn't and am glad. Long short, if you gonna dish it out, you gotta take it :D :2

Nonetheless, this Bama-LSU game is highly entertaining. Where has this Mettenberger been all season?

[maninblack]

Go LSU! Making this a fun game to watch!

[BHalbrooks]

Wow. Nice job LSU

[oooo35980]

My God, what a game... Hard fought, well won. Nothing but respect for LSU, possibly with the exception of Les Miles who needs to be banned from calling special teams plays, he gave that game away.

Not that Alabama was any better, "Hmm third down, lets blitz with everyone and leave a man wide open downfield.". At one point I was yelling at my television "STOP BLITZING ON THIRD DOWN!". Every damn time, 20 yards, 30 yards, it was ridiculous. LSU was dominating us on both sides of the ball for most of the game, thank goodness for big plays.

That said, ROLL TIDE!

[OLS]

Michael, I respect you and all, but where do you get this logic that a person who does not like to read someone
else's posts can't use the ignore button? The people in this thread that I ignore have been ignored since last year.
Maybe its not cool to keep mentioning it, sure, but that's like saying 'using the red triangle to report a post is snitching.'

Congrats to bama, Les Miles obviously thought the only way to win was to do the unexpected. (4 times):rolleyes:
Had he been a little more confident in his team, it looks like he could have mopped the floor with the tide. Shame.
But no changing the final score. Great effort LSU. No stopping the tide now.

[SvilleKid]

My God, what a game... Hard fought, well won. Nothing but respect for LSU, possibly with the exception of Les Miles who needs to be banned from calling special teams plays, he gave that game away.

Not that Alabama was any better, "Hmm third down, lets blitz with everyone and leave a man wide open downfield.". At one point I was yelling at my television "STOP BLITZING ON THIRD DOWN!". Every damn time, 20 yards, 30 yards, it was ridiculous. LSU was dominating us on both sides of the ball for most of the game, thank goodness for big plays.

That said, ROLL TIDE!

I would say almost the same thing, except I don't think I'd be as kind to Bama! The third down blitzing and leaving LSU players with 20 yard buffers????? I'm in a hotel, else I'd have been screaming at the TV also.

Michael, don't sweat it, bro. I too had Brad on ignore last year. Took him off 6 months ago, but I just don't respond to any of the "baiting" stuff Brad post. That's the easiest way.

The other person Brad has on ignore is NinjaVanish, which is a good thing for Brad, because Jeremy has a much better grasp on football than Brad does. So it's easier to ignore Jeremy than accept the imbalance in knowledge. Me, on the otherhand...... I'm really am just a redneck with limited knowledge, and hardly worth the effort of notice! And that really, really doesn't bother me..... Which I find tends to just make some people more upset!!!

Back to the game..... I give this loss squarely to Les Miles. But really, it was more down to luck. If any one of his gambles had paid off, LSU would have won. The team itself played probably their best game of the season. The LSU offense well outplayed the Bama offense.

[SvilleKid]

I'm game. I know LSU will lose, but I'll dip into my moderate stash and hook up a soldier.

Let's go LSU!

Send me your addy. LSU played one helluva a game. That deserves a little something, plus you were willing to step up.

However, you now owe the troops a fiver!!:D

[Bleez]

Beautiful. That's what Bama needed. They needed to know that they aren't invincible. I can't stamp my ticket to Miami quite yet but that makes me feel a looooooooot better.

ROLL TIDE!!!

[SvilleKid]

Tom, if you will send me you addy, I'd like to send you a few sticks for playing.

[longknocker]

Well Said, Cliff!:D:banger:tu If The MadHatter Had Played Conservatively, They Would Have Won. Roll, Tide!:tu

[ninjavanish]

I would say almost the same thing, except I don't think I'd be as kind to Bama! The third down blitzing and leaving LSU players with 20 yard buffers????? I'm in a hotel, else I'd have been screaming at the TV also.

Michael, don't sweat it, bro. I too had Brad on ignore last year. Took him off 6 months ago, but I just don't respond to any of the "baiting" stuff Brad post. That's the easiest way.

The other person Brad has on ignore is NinjaVanish, which is a good thing for Brad, because Jeremy has a much better grasp on football than Brad does. So it's easier to ignore Jeremy than accept the imbalance in knowledge. Me, on the otherhand...... I'm really am just a redneck with limited knowledge, and hardly worth the effort of notice! And that really, really doesn't bother me..... Which I find tends to just make some people more upset!!!

Back to the game..... I give this loss squarely to Les Miles. But really, it was more down to luck. If any one of his gambles had paid off, LSU would have won. The team itself played probably their best game of the season. The LSU offense well outplayed the Bama offense.

I didn't realize I was being ignored. Didn't think I ever said anything negative about lsu other than the comments about mettenberger's mustache.

[SvilleKid]

I didn't realize I was being ignored. Didn't think I ever said anything negative about lsu other than the comments about mettenberger's mustache.

You didn't. But you offered logical, complete analysis last year, and that wasn't appreciated. Besides, Brad is a self-admitted "Bama hater" (his words), which apparently also extends to their fan base as individuals. Personally, I don't hate any fans. They have the right to root for their choices, and I'd expect them to be true to their schools like we are. The "hate" of another school kinda reminds me of high school sports!

BTW, where did you and K watch the game last night? Fox and Hound? Or was the BBQ last night?

[ninjavanish]

You didn't. But you offered logical, complete analysis last year, and that wasn't appreciated. Besides, Brad is a self-admitted "Bama hater" (his words), which apparently also extends to their fan base as individuals. Personally, I don't hate any fans. They have the right to root for their choices, and I'd expect them to be true to their schools like we are. The "hate" of another school kinda reminds me of high school sports!

BTW, where did you and K watch the game last night? Fox and Hound? Or was the BBQ last night?

We watched some of the 1st qtr at the BBQ. Then drove back to the hotel and watched the end of it here.

As far as being ignored goes, I guess I know who my next target is...

[OLS]

I freely admit I have at times baited people here in a passive-aggressive manner.
I do try to never strike first. If anyone here is currently on my ignore list, it is
because you do the exact same thing but can't admit it here where people can read it.
In 2010 and 2011, I allowed myself to be entangled in arguments where the other party
used the same tactics I was using. Sort of an 'insult JUST to the edge of being moderated'
and then back off with the football player move of throwing their hands up in the air in a
'it wasn't me' move.

Today I ignore people who behave in that manner. A person cannot win, its quicksand.
So if I am ever mis-characterized as ignoring for one reason or another, you can read right
here why I do it. If someone ever tries to tell you that I ignore them and comes up with the
reasons that I do it, I hope people will refer to this and see that I laid it out freely on the table.

I got PMs quoting some things that were said from last night and today. I felt it was right
to clear the air.

[oooo35980]

Let's go back to talking about football, I for one don't care if anyone is ignoring anyone else or why.

Alabama looked terrible this week, honestly their defense was brutalized, it had a lot to do with the coaches refusing to admit LSU had a good quarterback (For one game at least.) and was passing quick enough to avoid the pass rush. Hopefully it won't take 200 yards for them to notice the blitz isn't working next time. LSU looked good, really good, just not quite good enough. They are going to obliterate Mississippi State.

A&M looked good too, getting through them is going to be hard, thankfully LSU smacked Bama around so they are unlikely to go in overconfident. I think Bama wins next week, not as soundly as against Miss St., but cleaner than the LSU game.

Wtf has happened to Florida? They fell apart vs Georgia and nearly lost to Mizzou? They looked like the best in the SEC a couple weeks ago...

Georgia has come alive, Bama will be playing them for the SEC championship unless both teams lose to Auburn, I find that unlikely. Georgia hasn't looked particularly good this year when facing quality opponents, if they play Bama they'd better do more than they did against Florida and USC. Then again Bama wasn't exactly impressive last night, could go either way.

Auburn beat somebody, I forget who, yay for Auburn I guess.

[icehog3]

I will get some cigars out to the Troop supporters this week, Cliff, that was fun. Congrats to 'bama for staying undefeated. :tu

[ninjavanish]

Let's go back to talking about football, I for one don't care if anyone is ignoring anyone else or why.

Alabama looked terrible this week, honestly their defense was brutalized, it had a lot to do with the coaches refusing to admit LSU had a good quarterback (For one game at least.) and was passing quick enough to avoid the pass rush. Hopefully it won't take 200 yards for them to notice the blitz isn't working next time. LSU looked good, really good, just not quite good enough. They are going to obliterate Mississippi State.

A&M looked good too, getting through them is going to be hard, thankfully LSU smacked Bama around so they are unlikely to go in overconfident. I think Bama wins next week, not as soundly as against Miss St., but cleaner than the LSU game.

Wtf has happened to Florida? They fell apart vs Georgia and nearly lost to Mizzou? They looked like the best in the SEC a couple weeks ago...

Georgia has come alive, Bama will be playing them for the SEC championship unless both teams lose to Auburn, I find that unlikely. Georgia hasn't looked particularly good this year when facing quality opponents, if they play Bama they'd better do more than they did against Florida and USC. Then again Bama wasn't exactly impressive last night, could go either way.

Auburn beat somebody, I forget who, yay for Auburn I guess.

I don't think Bama really played that badly, there were definitely some mistakes, but what really was the big difference was almost a matter of timing. Went sent blitzes on 3rd down almost everytime. And almost everytime we got there, just a second too late. Mettenberger's ability to ignore the blitz and get the ball out just ahead of a sack kept alabamas defense on the field. But despite converting all of those 3rd downs, bama was able to tighten up and eventually force a punt or a long fg on all but 3 drives. Lsu needed to capitalize on every opportunity to put points up, but due to some iffy play calling, they allowed to skilled opponent to stay within reach of victory.

[oooo35980]

I don't think Bama really played that badly, there were definitely some mistakes, but what really was the big difference was almost a matter of timing. Went sent blitzes on 3rd down almost everytime. And almost everytime we got there, just a second too late. Mettenberger's ability to ignore the blitz and get the ball out just ahead of a sack kept alabamas defense on the field. But despite converting all of those 3rd downs, bama was able to tighten up and eventually force a punt or a long fg on all but 3 drives. Lsu needed to capitalize on every opportunity to put points up, but due to some iffy play calling, they allowed to skilled opponent to stay within reach of victory.

We won because of "iffy" play calling. That isn't the best our defense can do, we barely scraped by and I think it would have been a much cleaner win had we not been so predictable on third down the entire second half. LSU knew we were coming and acted accordingly. It's not that we played badly, and blitzing on 3rd isn't always lousy play calling, but being that predictable hurt us.

If not for that last offensive drive we would have lost, if Les Miles hadn't screwed up four plays we would have lost. We came within a hair of sending LSU to the SEC championship again and possibly excluding the SEC from the NC altogether. I don't think it would have happened if we had played a little more coverage, and a little less blitz, especially on 3rd down.

I also think we gave it to AJ a bit too much, he was obviously rattled and having an off night, thank god for that last drive, but the rest of the second half was awful. I'm no expert though and it's easy to say that after the fact.

[OLS]

Let's go back to talking about football, I for one don't care if anyone is ignoring anyone else or why.

Alabama looked terrible this week, honestly their defense was brutalized, it had a lot to do with the coaches refusing to admit LSU had a good quarterback (For one game at least.) and was passing quick enough to avoid the pass rush. Hopefully it won't take 200 yards for them to notice the blitz isn't working next time. LSU looked good, really good, just not quite good enough. They are going to obliterate Mississippi State.


I disagree with some of this, but just semantics in most places. In a lot of posts after the game,
people have said that bama blitzed too much, which is true. but bama got the scare of their season
much more because LSU ran the ball down their throats. LSU gashed bama whether they blitzed or not.
Mettenberger did get the ball out quick, but he also displayed a TON of guts, never once seeming to be
throwing off of his back foot. He looked into the teeth of the rush and threw the ball pretty effectively.
I couldn't believe what I was seeing. AMAZING CALM and AMAZING PERFROMANCE by that kid.

LSU lost because their coaching staff did not show enough faith in the game plan, just doing what
they needed to do. Stupid gadgets....it was almost as if Tracy Wolfson goaded him into going
back to that looney bin crap from 2-3 years ago. How utterly embarrassing for Les.

The prevent defense on the last drive cost them the game. That plus mcCarron obviously said in
the huddle, YOU WILL PROTECT, and for as long as you have to, you bastards. LSU was desperately
trying to claw their way to AJ, and he never got a scratch on that last drive. LSU lost because of
coaching decisions, and bama almost lost because of them. If you had just kept running the ball down
our throats, WE would have been the team that got gashed. We couldn't tackle all night. And then suddenly,
like they were throwing the game for a gambling debt, bama let off the gas. They went away from what was
working. Sure, halftime adjustments made a big difference, but SO MANY 3 and outs? It was starting
to embarass ME. It was something more, though. I DO believe that Saban and Miles are very similar. Sometimes
in big games they are too scared of some boogeyman in their minds to just coach. The measure of the best,
in the end though, is that Saban snaps out of it and coaches the end of the game. Les just looks shell-shocked.
If he wins a close one in the end, its because his players bail him out. If they lose, its because they COULDN'T.

One thing you can't do though is dwell on what might have been. That's why they play. If LSU had
simply played the last drive the way they played the whole game, you guys would be eating your
hats today....No way you win it. But you did. I was kind of shocked when Vern said "there is no
reason to think bama can pull it out on this last drive, if the previous 55 minutes are any indicator".
That's when I knew we were doomed.

[SvilleKid]

I freely admit I have at times baited people here in a passive-aggressive manner.
I do try to never strike first. If anyone here is currently on my ignore list, it is
because you do the exact same thing but can't admit it here where people can read it.
In 2010 and 2011, I allowed myself to be entangled in arguments where the other party
used the same tactics I was using. Sort of an 'insult JUST to the edge of being moderated'
and then back off with the football player move of throwing their hands up in the air in a
'it wasn't me' move.

Today I ignore people who behave in that manner. A person cannot win, its quicksand.
So if I am ever mis-characterized as ignoring for one reason or another, you can read right
here why I do it. If someone ever tries to tell you that I ignore them and comes up with the
reasons that I do it, I hope people will refer to this and see that I laid it out freely on the table.

I got PMs quoting some things that were said from last night and today. I felt it was right
to clear the air.

Hey guys, Brad is fully within his rights to ignore anyone he chooses. That's why CA has an ignore. It doesn't bother me, it does not keep me from reading his post. I guess I said something (or didn't say something) that hit under his skin in the past. I've been married 32 years, have two adult children. I get under their skins from time to time. That's just life. Many things anger me. I had major stress related health issues in my 20's because I let them anger me. Now I try not to let things bother me for more than a few days. It keeps my BP in check! Passive agressive? Hell, maybe. Not from a evil intent if so. Just who I am.

Look, for anyone that PM'd Brad, let it go. He is who he is, I'm who I am, no rules here (or in life) say we have to be friends! It doesn't bother me, it appears it doesn't bother him. So it shouldn't bother anyone else.

That being said, let's get back to SEC football

My side thought from the game.... I'm glad I'm not an LSU fan who was in Death Valley last night. I think the highs, lows and then the really highs, followed by a last minute crushing blow would have been on the rim of personal insanity. I know that for sure, because I have gone thru it with Bama with several coaches in a row, not too long ago!!! I don't think this means LSU is a worse team. I think they are the second best team in the country right now. I sincerely think LSU would mop the field with Kansas or Notre Dame if they played. Bama'QB had a bad half, LSU,s QB had a bad half. When both have a good total game, I doubt either could be beat. And playing each other with 100% QB preformance all game.... Just what we saw last night. The team with the final drive wins. We've all seen those games.

[OLS]

haha, LSU's QB didn't have a bad half. LSU's QB had a breakout game, maybe some bad THROWS while the jitters
were flowing, but he did fine most of the night and all with bama blitzers RIGHT in his grill. The Tigers out-played
bama in front of the whole SEC that cared to watch...bama won the game because they finally pulled their heads
out of their butts and because Saban is a great coach and McCarron has tremendous character. Worthy of the Heisman,
I doubt it. But he never got down and he led his team to victory. If he wins two BCS NCs, he will probably have
the inside track, but I am not so sure about his chances in REALITY. LSU's backs looked like the bulls at Pamploma
all night. Couldn't be prouder of the whole team. I think you are right about having the ball last, but it was more
than that. I said it before, but an offensive line that looked like they were beaten most of the night REALLY came
through when it counted. They are to be congratulated, THEY won that game for the tide.

[Remo]

It's all for naught as Oregon is gonna roll whoever they play :tu

[hammondc]

It's all for naught as Oregon is gonna roll whoever they play :tu

bwaaaaaaaaahhhhh hahahahahahahahahahahahaha


:r:r:r:r

[longknocker]

It's all for naught as Oregon is gonna roll whoever they play :tu

Uh, Whatever You Say, Mike! :D

[Remo]

Uh, Whatever You Say, Mike! :D

I am no Oregon fan but that offense is brutal.

[longknocker]

I am no Oregon fan but that offense is brutal.

Only Thing Is Oregon Doesn't Play SEC Defenses.:)

[Remo]

Only Thing Is Oregon Doesn't Play SEC Defenses.:)

I got a feeling it won't matter. I think Saban does not want to play Oregon.

[OLS]

Haha, I'll tell you one more thing. i had to laugh last night when Verne Lundquist said "Alabama is now in field
goal range, it would be a 48 yarder if they kicked it right now". I was thinking, DOES ANYONE think that
Nick Saban is playing for 3 points? REALLY VERNE?? How deluded. That's why I just let all the air out of myself
and sat and watched in total resignation. I knew that the tide was going for the win or nothing. After the
first completion of the drive I knew. I will leave it to the people who like bama to talk up the Oregon matchup,
but I'll say it like I say it every year. It ALWAYS looks good on paper. Ask Ohio State.

[oooo35980]

I am no Oregon fan but that offense is brutal.

That Oregon team doesn't play SEC teams, I'm trying to remember one time a team from another conference played an SEC team in the BCS championship and won.

It was Oklahoma right? No they went twice and got killed both times. Maybe it was Ohio State, oh yeah killed twice too. Hmm, I remember Bama walking all over Texas, so not them. Oh yeah it was Oregon, no wait Auburn beat them two years ago.

Oh yeah it was last year an SEC team lost, wait that was to another SEC team.

I'm sure Oregon is better than all those other teams though, it's the shiny outfits that give them the power. :rolleyes:

[hammondc]

If it ends up Alabama and Oregon-------Bama wins by at least 4TDs.

[oooo35980]

It's sad really, I think there should be more play between conferences in the top 25. As it is everyone pads their schedule and their only tough games are in-conference, that leads to a lot of skill disparity between conferences.

[BHalbrooks]

Send me your addy. LSU played one helluva a game. That deserves a little something, plus you were willing to step up.

However, you now owe the troops a fiver!!:D

PM'd you. Had a question anyways. Thanks Sir.

[never_enough]

Looks like my UK football team finally dumped the coach. Time for the next one to step up, get paid, and get fired :r

It actually makes me sad. Is a 7 win season consistently too much to ask for?

[OLS]

Looks like my UK football team finally dumped the coach. Time for the next one to step up, get paid, and get fired :r

It actually makes me sad. Is a 7 win season consistently too much to ask for?

Not to worry, I hear they are gonna hire Nick Saban.

[OLS]

Besides, Brad is a self-admitted "Bama hater" (his words), which apparently also extends to their fan base as individuals.

Reminds me of a part of my favorite television series of all time..........

"Lt Winters.....permission to speak sir...
Permission granted...
Well sir, why does Lt. Sobel hate us sir?
Lt. Sobel doesn't HATE easy company Private Randellman....he just hates YOU.
Thank you SIR"

[rizzle]

We won because of "iffy" play calling. That isn't the best our defense can do, we barely scraped by and I think it would have been a much cleaner win had we not been so predictable on third down the entire second half. LSU knew we were coming and acted accordingly. It's not that we played badly, and blitzing on 3rd isn't always lousy play calling, but being that predictable hurt us.

If not for that last offensive drive we would have lost, if Les Miles hadn't screwed up four plays we would have lost. We came within a hair of sending LSU to the SEC championship again and possibly excluding the SEC from the NC altogether. I don't think it would have happened if we had played a little more coverage, and a little less blitz, especially on 3rd down. I also think we gave it to AJ a bit too much, he was obviously rattled and having an off night, thank god for that last drive, but the rest of the second half was awful. I'm no expert though and it's easy to say that after the fact.

LSU had the right game plan put together and for some reason we weren't making the defensive adjustments we should have. They were rolling TE's out to the sideline and leaving the WR's in the slot. Our CB's rolled out with the TE's and that left our safeties to come up and cover the more skilled WR's. It was a mismatch all night and it shows you how much we miss Mark Barron from last year's D. Not like we've never seen that before, hell we used to do it with Julio all the time.

Anyway, great game. One that we should have lost, but somehow didn't. One that when Yeldon lost the fumble and LSU drove it down our throats to score, I said we're gonna lose this game.

Don't forget LSU had an extra week to prepare and rest. I know we could use some rest about now. We're all beat up. This was also the first game, other than WKU, that we were mostly in our "base defense" for the whole game all year. Now we'll have to go back to being a little more "unconventional." aTm will present challenges, but I think you'll see us play them about like LSU played them. Should be a similar time game. At least I hope.

Carry on...

[never_enough]

Not to worry, I hear they are gonna hire Nick Saban.

Or Rex Ryan, Jon Gruden, Herm Edwards :r:r:r

Coaching searches always provide entertainment.

[SvilleKid]

PM'd you. Had a question anyways. Thanks Sir.

DC # 0308 2040 0001 1954 9088 or 9071 (I mailed out 2 boxes, got two stubs, failed to keep them straight).

[Powers]

There is nothing better in the world for a sports fan IMO than high stakes SEC football :tu :tu

First we were treated w/the drama of Florida-Georgia last week and now the instant classic of 'Bama-LSU

As a Gator fan, I am thankful that Metteberger did not play that way in the Swamp earlier in the season but, if you can't play your best ball in your home stadium at night after a week of preparation against your arch rival than LSU should have run him out on a rail anyhow.

Nonethe-Les, Miles was definitely tryin' to get too cute. In an SEC battle you take the 3 points!

Herbstreit tweeted after the game that he though it ended in reverse of last years regular season battle in Tuscaloosa - Bama played better all game but LSU snatched victory from the jaws of defeat. Its the football circle of life I guess

Thinking in the interest of Florida, Bama's victory was in our favor due to the possibility of this scenario - Gators beat FSU in Talla-nasty (*fingers crossed*), Georgia gets it dry at an angle from Bama in Atlanta (can't wait to see it) which means Florida is the only 1 loss SEC team and we go to the BCS Sugar Bowl :D

[Powers]

That Oregon team doesn't play SEC teams, I'm trying to remember one time a team from another conference played an SEC team in the BCS championship and won.

It was Oklahoma right? No they went twice and got killed both times. Maybe it was Ohio State, oh yeah killed twice too. Hmm, I remember Bama walking all over Texas, so not them. Oh yeah it was Oregon, no wait Auburn beat them two years ago.

Oh yeah it was last year an SEC team lost, wait that was to another SEC team.

I'm sure Oregon is better than all those other teams though, it's the shiny outfits that give them the power. :rolleyes:

Well said, sir. I always look forward to whatever team lines up against the SEC in the title game and people say "but this team is different than the previous ____(fill in the blank BCS losers) who had an overrated offense!"

Not saying its inevitable Bama will win, assuming they get by Georgia (but come on, :r), but when the non-SEC team in the BCS game actually has a DEFENSE, then I'll be concerned

[OLS]

Don't forget LSU had an extra week to prepare and rest. I know we could use some rest about now. We're all beat up. ...

Correct me if I am wrong, Rizz, didn't we get you guys in the same spot last year, or am I extrapolating
off of the Champ. game where you guys had a month of rest?? Duh, I guess I can look it up on the webster...
Yep, you guys were off for a week last time.

All homerism aside, this was a superb football game. Last year I liked it because we won, but was not
a fan of the game from almost any other standpoint. Sat nite the game was constantly up for grabs,
nearly from the opening kick. I know fans of young-man football could care less, but wow, what a football
game. If I wasn't so mad at Les Miles, I could enjoy it more, but I enjoyed so many aspects of the game.

One was the courtesy and sportsmanship of the tide. The Tide D could have re-arranged Mettenberger's DNA
on all those pass attempts where he hung in the pocket, but they gave him the bennie of the doubt that he
WAS going to throw and not pump and they never killed him once that I recall. They simply tackled him
and everyone lived to play another down. I DID NOT like the camera shot they got on number 6, giving 'kissy goodbye'
lips to the LSU fans in the stands after the big closing drive. I thought that was classless. but there are SO
many of those moments in every game, only a fraction get on camera. Like that moron Mettenberger playing
the 'cell phone-call me' move as if he had suddenly re-written the record books of college football by scoring a TD.
But of course its ALL just kids being kids. What ya gonna do.

Obviously I hope A&M beats the Tide, but you made your path to the big game clear, and I see no
way to stop the ball rolling downhill. Should be another egg for the elephants, hope they glue this one down.

[OLS]

when the non-SEC team in the BCS game actually has a DEFENSE, then I'll be concerned

So true....you can play all the highlight reels you like, but when all the skinny-a55 receivers for Oregon
are laid out writhing on the turf holding whichever body part is changed forever, the offense is bound to
slow WAY down. Not that we intend to hurt anyone, but 'big meets little' at 45 mph USUALLY winds up
that way. It's like Indiana Jones, that dude is flipping that scimitar back and forth, whirling and twirling
it in a flashy show, and Indy just pulls out a revolver and shoots him dead. THAT'S what I think of
every new years

[OLS]

Georgia gets it dry at an angle from Bama in Atlanta (can't wait to see it)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.ehhh...ehh...heh...Dr y and at an angle, lol.

The ONLY reason I wanted Bama to lose REALLY, was the fact that all the power teams would have one loss.
No one would be shocked to know I like a lil Chaos.

[OLS]

As it is everyone pads their schedule and their only tough games are in-conference, that leads to a lot of skill disparity between conferences.

LSU used to schedule a DAUNTING non-conference schedule, but this year they seem to have gone back
to scheduling light. I know most of this is done many years in advance, so I doubt it was an effort to
finally beat bama, lol, but I was saddened to see it. I liked the swagger you can lay claim to when you
take a chance and schedule tough NCOs. Hopefully they will go back to that. If you can't hang, at least
you tried....USM was like that historically.

[hammondc]

So true....you can play all the highlight reels you like, but when all the skinny-a55 receivers for Oregon
are laid out writhing on the turf holding whichever body part is changed forever, the offense is bound to
slow WAY down. Not that we intend to hurt anyone, but 'big meets little' at 45 mph USUALLY winds up
that way. It's like Indiana Jones, that dude is flipping that scimitar back and forth, whirling and twirling
it in a flashy show, and Indy just pulls out a revolver and shoots him dead. THAT'S what I think of
every new years

So true. I am begging for an SEC/Oregon matchup for the NC game so the Pac12ers will STFU.

[ir13]

I personally want to see a KState v Bama NC game, bc i think that would yield the best game, but we will see in the coming weeks.

[oooo35980]

I can't say much about K-State or Oregon, I only watch them on Saturdays if there aren't any games on that matter. But there is much more hype concerning Oregon's offense and their new shiny helmets, this irritates me and for that reason I'd like to see them play for the NC against an SEC team.

[OLS]

Its a shame but its true....The best game, or the best chance to see some hype come crumbling down?
I hate to say it, but I'd rather see the team that stands to look the worst for losing to the galactic empire,
er, bama. That means Oregon....to me anyway. Imagine the blowup that would occur if it is not KState, though.
Although it is far too early to annoint anyone, and this ain't the I hate the BCS thread..

[hammondc]

I can't say much about K-State or Oregon, I only watch them on Saturdays if there aren't any games on that matter. But there is much more hype concerning Oregon's offense and their new shiny helmets, this irritates me and for that reason I'd like to see them play for the NC against an SEC team.

Its a shame but its true....The best game, or the best chance to see some hype come crumbling down?
I hate to say it, but I'd rather see the team that stands to look the worst for losing to the galactic empire,
er, bama. That means Oregon....to me anyway. Imagine the blowup that would occur if it is not KState, though.
Although it is far too early to annoint anyone, and this ain't the I hate the BCS thread..

This is how I feel about Oregon. Nothing really against them for any good reason other than the fact that I hate their nose up swagger. Almost like the stuck up jerks in high school that think they are better than everyone else. It is just fun to watch them fail and fail hard. Plus the fans are alway jibber jabbering about SEC bias. Fine....here is your chance. I feel the same about ND. Just do not care about K-State. Actually, on of my co-workers played QB for them a million years ago so that could be fun.

[oooo35980]

So I'm confused, maybe someone can help me out. I keep hearing how Oregon pulled off a big win and scored more points on USC than anyone, ever. Nobody is talking about how USC scored more points against Oregon than they had scored against anyone all season.

How are the Oregon folks not considering that game a colossal defensive failure that they could have easily lost? If anything that game should send them down in the BCS rankings and prove that they would get killed by a team with a good defense as well as a good offense.

[OLS]

If anything that game should send them down in the BCS rankings and prove that they would get killed by a team with a good defense as well as a good offense.

This is the real point, one I didn't even consider....I am just too busy chuckling at the wider picture.
There are likely better teams down below that are better on the whole.

I think the metric that emerges is the fact that neither of them can stop 5hi+ from happening.
(was this OT by the way?? that often drives up a score)---edit---OUCH, regulation.
Teams always assume, or their fans do anyway, that hanging 60 on someone is a real indicator of
how they would whip team x's a55. To me it only speaks to the defense of the team they played.
But you know homers, they extrapolate that into hanging 50 on bama and off we go. Homers are
fine, I are one, but sometimes the crimson-colored glasses or the purple contacts can get in the
way of hard facts and cold reality. Or even common sense. But I do know one thing, and that is
that it makes a championship game impossible to ignore, at least for me. I'd like to boycott the
galactic empire in their coronation ceremony, but I know I will have to watch it just to see the
carnage.

[OLS]

Poor Mississippi State.
Jeezus, I almost can't watch this weekend.

[oooo35980]

My wife summed it up very well while we were watching A&M dismantle Mississippi state, she said "Poor Mississippi State they thought they could play with big people."

I'll be watching this weekend, I knew Mississippi state was overrated because of a schedule that turned out to be very easy, but I didn't realize how badly they'd get destroyed by quality teams.

[OLS]

What shocked me was HOW they get destroyed. Look at a few of the runs from the A&M game, they are standing
around and people are running by them. It reminds me of my nephew playing soccer as a kid, he could not grasp
the concept of running to where the ball would BE, he would run towards the kicker, and I am screaming on the
sideline. My sister was not happy. But hell they didn't take angles either, they just stood there as if to say
'that guy is too fast for me to run after." They are not a BAD team, not sure if they quit trying after the empire
got in their heads a few weeks ago.

[oooo35980]

Well their fans did hang an "I believe" sign on the statue in Tuscaloosa. Maybe the Bama game was a little too much reality for them and they gave up. If so I'd say they are a worse team than I thought they were.

I don't think that's the case though. If they had just given up against A&M I think the game would have been even worse. Truth is they didn't really have the talent from the get-go, and were lucky enough to play the bottom of the barrel in the SEC.

They were fun to root for (until they played Bama of course). But in the end just not a great team this year. If they stop getting obliterated they could end up a 2 loss team. As it stands I think they'll be a 4 loss team, possibly 5 but Arkansas is a bit closer to teams they've already beaten, so that one could go either way. I could be way off base though, after the Tennessee and the USC game I more or less wrote Georgia off, and look at them.

[OLS]

This whole SEC season has been nothing BUT "well, I didn't see THAT coming..."
I can rattle of a dozen instances. I GUESS that's good, but three of em are LSU, lol.

[oooo35980]

It's been pretty much business as usual for Bama, that LSU game was a major hiccup but I think it's going to have beneficial effects overall. We'll see against A&M.

I'm surprised frankly at the level of inconsistency in the SEC this year, the major players are all sort of hit or miss (The rest are just miss), and a few games have been surprising because one of the teams didn't show up to play. I mean who could have imagined Florida vs Georgia would have 9 turnovers and 24 penalties, it was embarrassing.

[Powers]

It's been pretty much business as usual for Bama, that LSU game was a major hiccup but I think it's going to have beneficial effects overall. We'll see against A&M.

I'm surprised frankly at the level of inconsistency in the SEC this year, the major players are all sort of hit or miss (The rest are just miss), and a few games have been surprising because one of the teams didn't show up to play. I mean who could have imagined Florida vs Georgia would have 9 turnovers and 24 penalties, it was embarrassing.

No coincidence that both of those were huge rivalry games w/SEC division titles on the line. Crazy sh*t always happens

Definitely agree w/your sentiment that a close, come from behind win is gonna help Bama in the long run. Now there more confident and battle-tested if another game goes down to the wire

[Powers]

From Fake David Bazzel on Twitter:

BREAKING NEWS: Tyrann Mathieu looking to transfer to University of Colorado. Stated needed to be closer to family. Mainly his Aunt Mary Jane

:r

[SvilleKid]

From Fake David Bazzel on Twitter:

BREAKING NEWS: Tyrann Mathieu looking to transfer to University of Colorado. Stated needed to be closer to family. Mainly his Aunt Mary Jane

:r

:D:r

[OLS]

Definitely agree w/your sentiment that a close, come from behind win is gonna help Bama in the long run. Now there more confident and battle-tested if another game goes down to the wire

What I would be more worried about if I was a bama fan would be the perennial "We know how to beat them now"
routine out of A&M...they are hot enough to hang with bama for a time, could they also now be informed enough to
pull the upset? Too hard for me to say, I am well outside the universe of the Capstone, but it does give me hope
that they can be beaten, and in fact, I look forward to the possibility. That said, if anything it will be another squeaker.

I can also confirm the Mathieu story, in fact I already put the deposit down on our apartment. I just gotta move my plants.

[oooo35980]

What I would be more worried about if I was a bama fan would be the perennial "We know how to beat them now"
routine out of A&M...they are hot enough to hang with bama for a time, could they also now be informed enough to
pull the upset? Too hard for me to say, I am well outside the universe of the Capstone, but it does give me hope
that they can be beaten, and in fact, I look forward to the possibility. That said, if anything it will be another squeaker.

I can also confirm the Mathieu story, in fact I already put the deposit down on our apartment. I just gotta move my plants.

I doubt it, A&M is good but I don't think Saban will sit back and let our defense get shredded while blitzing on 3rd the whole second half again. Thing about information is it goes both ways, A&M might have seen a chink in the Bama defense, but so did our guys, and you can bet it'll be addressed. At least I hope so.

Remember LSU had a whole week to prepare for Bama and basically changed their entire offensive strategy, they were playing their arch-rivals at home which happens to be one of the most hostile environments in football, and Mettenberger had some sort of epiphany and played his best game ever. Bama was caught off guard to put it mildly, I don't think A&M will be able to pull off the same trick. If they do manage to catch us off guard they aren't as talented as LSU, they don't have hearts full of hate and bile giving them the strength of 10 men, and THEY are going to be the ones in the hostile environment. It would take a minor miracle for them to pull off the upset, but who knows, strange things happens on Saturdays in November.

[OLS]

I am not saying it is gonna happen, I am just saying that there is no one left who CAN do it, this is the last,
best chance. If it DID happen, that's the WAY it would happen, something they saw, something they
whink they can get away with. But that's for points....you still gotta defend, something they have not
shown great aptitude for.

And I hate to bring this up, I already wore out my welcome with Rizzle with it, lol, but bama had two weeks
to prepare for LSU in 2011 and still lost, so sometimes it matters, sometimes its just a stat. Either way I will
be watching tomorrow. It's like a car wreck in slo-mo, you just gotta watch. Will I drive to a bar to see LSU
and State?...Ehh, maybe not. I'm too cheap to have cable, So it's me and Verne & Gary or nothing.

[oooo35980]

A week of rest and prep always matters, it's always an opportunity, in this case you can see that LSU changed their whole offensive strategy for the Bama game and caught us by surprise. Thanks in no small part to Mettenberger, but you have to give the coaches credit too. What I'm trying to say is the fact that Bama had a week last year and didn't utilize it effectively enough (Obviously last year they should have practiced kicking haha) isn't relevant to what happened this year, after all lots of teams lose coming off a Bye week.

[OLS]

in this case you can see that LSU changed their whole offensive strategy for the Bama game and caught us by surprise.

You've said that twice and I am still not sure I follow you. We ran the same running plays we always run
and did it pretty effectively. The only thing I saw different was a little more faith in Mettenberger passing
intelligently and maybe there were a few more pass patterns as a result, i.e. more than twin hitch patterns
on either side. We kept so many guys in to block it was hardly possible. We always take 2-3 shots at the
long ball and hope for the best. I am getting the impression you think of this as Rocky coming at Ivan Drago
as a southpaw or something. The only surprise to me was how able we were to run on bama and how hard
it was for you to move the ball for 3 quarters. THAT was a surprise.

[G G]

Go Bulldogs. If they can get past Auburn that is, and then only til they get slain in Atlanta.

[Bleez]

Johnny Football meets reality today aka Bama's D. Roll Tide!

[hammondc]

Johnny Football meets reality today aka Bama's D. Roll Tide!

VERY curious to see what happens today.

[OLS]

My game of the week this morning is USC versus Arkansas.....very even so far.
Detailed my buggy this morning, smoked three racks o ribs, delivered five frozen squirrels
to the raptor center and a rack of ribs to the poor suckers working today over at the job...
I guess its a good thing I kept the deliveries straight, lol.........Come on Gamecocks.

[OLS]

ARGH, not gonna do play be play or anything, but I have TWO pet peeves in football....
NEVER EVER is there an excuse for a block in the back, and yet they do it ALL the time.

The other one is to WASTE a blitz by FAILING TO MAINTAIN CONTROL of your momentum.
I just saw an Arkansas player not only miss the QB when he had him dead to rights, but could
have also knocked himself out colliding with an opposing player trying to SAVE the hit after
totally losing control on a corner blitz. I am so proud of a player that maintains control in
pursuit because its ALL about discipline and listening to what coaches try to teach you.

[icehog3]

Gators pulled that out their arses. Down 20-13 with 1:50 left, a 46 yeard pass play to the 3 to set up one TD, then a punt return TD after 3 and out for LA. Whew.

[Remo]

Gators pulled that out their arses. Down 20-13 with 1:50 left, a 46 yeard pass play to the 3 to set up one TD, then a punt return TD after 3 and out for LA. Whew.

Lucky!!! Let's go A&M!!!!! 14-0!!

[Bleez]

So far, it's Bama's D meeting Johnny Manziel. Wow. Bama really needs to come to life! Roll Tide!!!

[Bleez]

20-7. Play some D and Bama's back in this!

Rolllll Tide Roll!!!

[Bleez]

20-14 at the half. Sabah will eat their brains at halftime and Bama will stop playing like they're dead on defense...

[Remo]

Gonna be a great 2nd half.....1st Bama' loss :tu

[Bleez]

Gonna be a great 2nd half.....1st Bama' loss :tu

:rolleyes:

[OLS]

I am glad the refs finally gave the "contact above the neck" penalty....I saw it at 10:38 mark and said "WHERE the
hell is the FLAG??? Oh yeah, Tuscaloosa..." and then it came in. That made me feel a little better.

Careful how you roll those eyes Bleez...bama is getting away with a lot of contact on pass plays, they are eventually
gonna get one called on em at a bad time....OUCH, but that field goal would have made it a little better from my perspective.

[Bleez]

Rolling my eyes at the loss part. I have to be confident, I'm a fan...It's what I do.

As for penalties, let the players play. I respect the "safety of players" but it's almost killed smash mouth football.

Yeldon...C'mon MAN!!!

[OLS]

Rolling my eyes at the loss part. I have to be confident, I'm a fan...It's what I do.

As for penalties, let the players play. I respect the "safety of players" but it's almost killed smash mouth football.

Yeldon...C'mon MAN!!!
Oh yeah, I am not telling you how to fan, I was merely pointing out the possibilities and how
it will look when your team loses. I called it earlier in the week and was bombarded with all
the ways it couldn't happen. I chalk it up to me not having a grasp on football.

As for the penalties, you can't have disorder, you can whine about the death of football after the tide loses, lol.

I WISH THAT HORN BLOWING A55HOLE would stop blowing that vuvuzela. I keep thinking my phone
is vibrating, lol.

But yes, you HAVE to root for you team, man, I get it....don't sweat it, haha.

TOUCHDOWN, Gig em AGGIES. I have to say one thing above all, however the
chips fall, I couldn't be prouder of A&M on their entry to the SEC. They have
PLAYED like a SEC team. Still waiting on Mizzou to show me something. Maybe
there is no more room for Tigers in the conference?

[OLS]

Did LACY not just get tagged above the pads??? OH, 5hi+, he sure did.....Come on, that's
messed up. Shame about that is maybe they though his head was higher up when the guy
left his feet to hit him? Shame. That Lacy kid is a home boy from Dutchtown.

Damn, does bama not have the HOTTEST baton chicks on the planet?? Sure seems like it to me.
they don't evven look real, each one in line hotter than the last.

[Bleez]

Did LACY not just get tagged above the pads??? OH, 5hi+, he sure did.....Come on, that's
messed up.

He got nailed the head. Still not over. C'mon Tide...

[Bleez]

You have no idea how bad I wanna get to Miami. The Cigarnscene there dwarfs the scene here in Dawgtown...

[OLS]

OH crap, is AJ gonna get to cry again?? I hope A&M learned from LSU not to suddenly STOP doing what got you
where you were late in the 4th quarter. Prevent defense, haha...we'll see.

If NOTHING else, this game will teach johnny how to throw away a football.

Touchdown, bama, HAHA, same way they got LSU.
At least A&M has some time to counterpunch.

[never_enough]

This is a great game. Don't care who wins, but I like watching a good comeback.

A&M looking good in the SEC. Mizzou looks more like one step above UK :r:r

[Bleez]

Wow. Worst play call and execution ever.

[OLS]

A LOT easier to watch that kind of game when its A&M....I had stomach pains all night when it was LSU.
That was the last team that had any kind of chance to beat bama. I said it last week and all my hopes
were pinned on it. I am glad they were able to get it done. Hell of a showing for your first year in the SEC,
AGGIES.

Let the explanations begin.

[Remo]

Looks like Oregon and K-State.

[oooo35980]

Hmm Yeldon fumbles as Bama is trying to march down field and take the lead, when has that happened before? Oh yeah last week.

All things considered it was a great game, Bama played well from behind and just couldn't pull it out. The defense was banged up from last week and couldn't contain Manziel. 2 games to the SEC championship now haha. SEC won't be going to the NC unless a couple people lose.

[OLS]

OH CRAP, MIZZOU GETS A WIN!!!!
Yahoooooooooo!
Couldn't have happened to a better team, the VOLS. Is there a worse football color than freaking ORANGE??

As for the BCS NCG, ehhh, things will happen, NO ONE has the magic this year, its gonna be a fight and a war.
I highly doubt anyone is heading for a coronation this weekend. Bet there are some bama fans that wish it was a
4-team playoff in 2012, though.

[Bleez]

Well, Roll Cal, Roll Horned Frogs and Roll Trojans!!!

Also, who'd have thought thenSEC Championship would run through Auburn? (If my calculations are correct)

[oooo35980]

I don't know about correct but your calculations match mine. If auburn beats GA or Bama there will be turmoil.

[Bleez]

I don't know about correct but your calculations match mine. If auburn beats GA or Bama there will be turmoil.

Burned couches and such...

[oooo35980]

judging from the past hour or so I don't think GA has to worry about it much.

[OLS]

haha, I think you guys in Tuscaloosa are safe....Auburn has beaten bama before, but I don't see it.

[oooo35980]

Mississippi state is hanging with LSU, barely. I didn't see that one coming. LSU might be a bit worse for wear after last week too. I still don't think Mississippi state can win, but it isn't a complete embarrassment like their last two games.

[OLS]

At least you can watch it....no cable in my house. But Miss State is still a capable football team, just woefully
inconsistent. That's all coaching; bama has great players and great coaching and they keep them motivated and
performing at a high level. You can get very close with just talent. But you can't play well all the time that way.
MSU is completely capable of beating the tigers tonight. But LSU is in business to make it happen in the 4th qtr.
Watch for the relentless running game to just wear em down. Make no mistake, LSU can RUN the ball.

[oooo35980]

That sucks, we got cable specifically for the games after one week we weren't able to watch anything we gave a crap about online, ESPN sucks sometimes. Mettenberger looks like the real deal, he isn't having as good a game as last week, but way better than in the early season.

[icehog3]

I should watch Alabama games more often. Brought some luck....to the Aggies. :r

[Fordman4ever]

Go Dawgs. Beat them tigers

[oooo35980]

Go Dawgs. Beat them tigers

:r:r:r

[SvilleKid]

I don't know that I buy that Bama's defense problem was being beat up. They looked susceptible to the same offense that LSU threw at them, A&M just didn't let Bama stay as close to them in score as LSU did. I also don't understand the continued mismatch in size between the A&M end (was it 6'5" to 5'10"??). I don't know if that was due to Bama Not having any better option, or if the experience of our defender was just felt to be enough to make up for it? In the end, that was just another nail in the coffin. It was a well played game by A&M. Much better than played by Bama. It pointed up our weakness on pass defense, and our weakness against no-huddle offenses. Something that might not be over for us. We will just have to wait and see.

[Bleez]

Two things regarding the end of the game.

WTF was McCaron thinking throwing into coverage...again?

Who jumps offsides on a punt?

Killers of mistakes...

[OLS]

The mistake that actually caused the GAME TO END and shut the door for good was a simple error that cannot
be said to have cost bama the game. No more than the fact that bama was charged with a foul for an illegal hit and
then the very same thing happens and A&M gets off scott free. I have said it here too many times to count,
you HAVE to win the game so convincingly that no error can cost you the game. Or else you do not "deserve to win."
bama fans here made it plain they felt they deserved to win, but that's FANDOM. That is not one of my usual comments
intended to rile fans. If you fail to win the game going away, you cannot fault a over-anxious kid for jumping into the
neutral zone. When bama lost to LSU in the regular season last year, it was not the kicker who lost the game.
It was the kicking game as a whole that failed the tide, as did the un-characteristic bad decision by Ol' Nicky to put his
kicker in an impossible spot. An irony is that les Miles turned around and gave it right back to Saban this time
around...yards longer than his kicker's career best...foolishness.

It seemed to me that the game was lost on conditioning. The kid Manziel is a freaking EEL. You can't win if you
can't breathe. Chasing him around for 60 minutes is almost impossible. OK, sure, LSU did it, but that's LSU, lol.
We are just awesomemer that other teams. :D Another possible reason bama lost is because Nick Saban does not respect
the no-huddle offense and has said as much. And it is obvious that he did not prepare his team to have to chase a
greased pig. I think it was a coaching let down after a tough victory against LSU. I said that nick saban won the game
for the tide last week and I think he lost the game to the Aggies.

[longknocker]

I should watch Alabama games more often. Brought some luck....to the Aggies. :r

:gary

[icehog3]

:gary

Sorry, Greg, I am willing to do almost anything to get the Gators back in the top 4. ;s

[BeerAdvocate]

I would just like to thread jack, that is all

[icehog3]

I would just like to thread jack, that is all

Since you're jacking...Bet some cigars they don't win the National Championship? ;)

[oooo35980]

I don't know that I buy that Bama's defense problem was being beat up. They looked susceptible to the same offense that LSU threw at them, A&M just didn't let Bama stay as close to them in score as LSU did. I also don't understand the continued mismatch in size between the A&M end (was it 6'5" to 5'10"??). I don't know if that was due to Bama Not having any better option, or if the experience of our defender was just felt to be enough to make up for it? In the end, that was just another nail in the coffin. It was a well played game by A&M. Much better than played by Bama. It pointed up our weakness on pass defense, and our weakness against no-huddle offenses. Something that might not be over for us. We will just have to wait and see.

I don't even think we played badly, except in the first quarter. Not counting that we held them to 9 points and scored 24. We just couldn't come back from our defense rolling over in the first 15 minutes. Honestly the fact that we made it close speaks to the quality of the game that Bama played. After the disaster in the first quarter it was just too little, too late.

[OLS]

Its all relative. Of course you played badly, you lost, lol. But you didn't play TERRIBLY.
But what's relative is you are bama. You could compete with any team in the country.
This week though, it wasn't a penalty here, a turnover there. It was another near-whippin'.

Its like when the Saints beat the Colts in the Super Bowl. There was 'no way" they could win,
but, and here is the parallel for me, Manning goes to the well too often with a pass he has thrown 1200 times
and the Saints player steps in front of it and goes to the house. This late in the season, everyone has seen
everything bama does when it HAS to have 5 yards, and you got burned on it. A&Ms defender steps right in front
of it and basically ends the game. Great film study by the Aggies and smart players defending with their backs to the wall.

As has been stated before, Nicky hates the no huddle. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to defend it
when there is this much on the line. I now no longer believe Nick Saban is going to be there forever. In fact
I believe he will be gone this year or the next. He once stated that it is a lot more fun to build a program than
to maintain it. He has built it, now he not only has to maintain it, he is getting criticized at home for nearly losing
to LSU and losing to A&M when he had the team to beat in both cases. There are rumblings on message boards,
and we all know Nicky's personality. He does not like to be criticized by the roundheads. I think the fun is gone
for Nicky at Tuscaloosa. He is going to bolt for a better gig, claim it was just the money, but I think it is too tough
to keep a national champion on the field year in and year out, which is of course what you guys expect now.

Isaiah, I disagree with some of your statements, none FULLY, but a little of all of it. It is NEVER too late for bama
to come back from a bad 1st quarter. You have the top team in the country by most SEC accounts. It is a travesty
that A&M is muddling down in 8th place, but I guess they can't leap LSU who beat em already, and there are all the
teams above bama that haven't stumbled, but UF almost got beat by ULL, cripey, how are they above LSU and A&M?
Well, its easy, LSU lost to UF. But that shows how messed up the BCS system is I guess. After beating bama, no one
can argue that A&M couldn't beat anyone above them. I guess its just the bad luck of the season so far. It has hurt
almost everyone in some way. Cept for those "undefeateds" Still, what's fairer than the current setup?

------

One thing for sure, EVERYONE wants to move on to the next game and forget what has happened over the past
two or three weeks, lol. it ain't over yet for bama.....we'll see how they respond.

[oooo35980]

I don't think just because a team lost they played badly, sure that first quarter was lousy, but after that our defense had their number and held them to 9 the rest of the game. It put the whole game on the offense which couldn't quite do it, almost, but not quite. We can blame Saban's coaching or Yeldon's fumble or AJ's interception, but fact is our defense didn't adjust fast enough and that's why we lost.

IMO that game is one we can be proud of, sure we lost, but everyone loses sometimes. Everyone acting like Bama is composed of Herculean demi-gods led by Zeus himself and should beat everyone by 100 points is just nonsense. They are a bunch of college kids led by a human coach, just like everyone else.

[OLS]

I respect the way you break it down.
For the record, there are a lot of the demi-god variety here. It keeps me hopping.

I agree that you can't blame the fumble or the pick, but the coaching, to me, is fully on the table.
At least to the degree that coaches mold the talent, and the talent was not able to contend with Manziel.
He could not be contained, he could barely be tackled, and rarely by the first person that had a shot.
That was not the first quarter, that was all game long. That is the defense, though, WE definitely means the
team, so you got it half right, haha. I saw passable quarterback play, and a decent running attack.
In the 4th quarter, QB play was top notch.

But on the defense specifically, I was entertained by Gary Danielson saying that the bama defenders were
trying to tap out and the coaches were telling them they had to stay in the game. I know that was just an
observation, your average viewer isn't going to SEE that. But I thought it was ironic that they were gassed, and
the coaching staff made them continue to play on. I am not sure why, character building or lack of depth.
Just not sure what the hell was going on. I have argued with the staunch demi-god crowd that bama does
not have the depth that LSU has, last year I got drubbed because of it, but LSU handled Manziel and bama could
not get it done for whatever reason. Did bama have competent players ready to come in? I sure don't know.
To me that IS coaching....whether it is strength and conditioning, coaches trying to prove a point or punish
players, who knows. But all of the individual mistakes, as you stated, were not the thing that led to a defeat.
I have to call it coaching. Same reason we lost to bama.

[OLS]

I also do realize that bama was awfully banged up, and these are just big, strong kids
after all. They had all they wanted out of LSU the week before. Hell, like I said, maybe
everyone just wants to move on.

[oooo35980]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, I thought the defense performed exceptionally well after the first quarter, sure they were tired, but they were going 90 miles an hour no huddle out there, anyone would get tired. I think offensively we could have done a better job, and the defense could have showed up earlier, but once they got in the groove they were really beyond reproach.

I also think we passed too much, like Saban bought into the Heisman hype about AJ and felt obligated to use the crap out of him whether it worked or not. Same thing happened with LSU. I'm half convinced that pick was because Saban wanted AJ to have the game winning TD again.

In some cases the score of a game doesn't actual tell the story of which team was better, or even which team played better. Had Bama run in that last TD and won the game everyone would be talking about what an awesome come from behind game, and Bama owned the field for 3 quarters, forgetting the first quarter entirely. As it is the last 3 quarters are forgotten and everyone is acting like A&M walked all over us for 60 minutes and Bama defense was just weak and overrated and couldn't defend itself out of a wet paper sack.

[Jefft72]

That was indeed an exciting game! I was pumped after the first quarter, but then had flash backs of all last year when we couldn't finish a game. It was another, "Oh no, here we go again" moment.

I also thought that if Bama continued to pound the ball that you guys could have smashed our defensive line. It's a good thing AJ kept on tossing the ball.

[rizzle]

I don't know that I buy that Bama's defense problem was being beat up. They looked susceptible to the same offense that LSU threw at them, A&M just didn't let Bama stay as close to them in score as LSU did. I also don't understand the continued mismatch in size between the A&M end (was it 6'5" to 5'10"??). I don't know if that was due to Bama Not having any better option, or if the experience of our defender was just felt to be enough to make up for it? In the end, that was just another nail in the coffin. It was a well played game by A&M. Much better than played by Bama. It pointed up our weakness on pass defense, and our weakness against no-huddle offenses. Something that might not be over for us. We will just have to wait and see.

Naw, bro. I don't buy that at all. Plain and simple, Bama's D just isn't as good as it was last year. In fact, not even close. Stats cover up a bunch of shortcomings.

We didn't deserve to win this game. We were outplayed, outschemed, and frankly, outcoached. It happens. And just like last year, we need help from elsewhere. We'll see how the others do with the target on their back and the pressure squeezing their chests.

Carry on...

[OLS]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree,

YEP, lol....

I'm half convinced that pick was because Saban wanted AJ to have the game winning TD again.

I would not doubt that for a minute, although I am not sure Saban
cares about the actual Heisman, which I do not think AJ could win.

Had Bama run in that last TD and won the game everyone would be talking about what an awesome come from behind game,

Or how stupid he was for trying to run it in, had Lacy gotten stoned at the line...

As it is the last 3 quarters are forgotten and everyone is acting like A&M walked all over us for 60 minutes and Bama defense was just weak and overrated and couldn't defend itself out of a wet paper sack.

A&M was effective enough for 4 quarters to keep the score so close that a last minute pick
effectively ended the game. You were NOT walked over by any means, but you guys did not
come even close to owning the last 3 quarters. If you had you'd be in the BCSNCG no problem.
But I still need to read Rizzle's post, I bet he is telling you what I am telling you now. Just ignore
me. I love to argue LSU or bama. The asylum is stone dead these past 18 months.
Call it something to do.

Going into the game, I gave A&M's defense NO CREDIT. I said so here. NOW? I am thinking
they were pretty damn stout to hold off bama.

[OLS]

We'll see how the others do with the target on their back and the pressure squeezing their chests.

Carry on...

Boy you said a mouthful there. THIS is to me the essential ingredient to the near loss in Baton Rouge
and the loss at home. Kids are not cut out for this kind of pressure, scrutiny, criticism....Bama played
a TOUGH game and suffered a heart-breaking loss. NOW is the time to relax, tiptoe through the 'gimme'
end of the season and watch the pressure attack the teams they NEED to lose. Bama has a lucky charm
in their pocket, look what happened last year. In a way there was NO WAY they should have been
allowed into that game to roast LSU's a55. And in another way, there is no way they should be denied
the berth. That's a lucky charm. We'll see how it works out for em in these two weeks. Will they lose
again in 2012? I highly doubt it.

[OLS]

I also thought that if Bama continued to pound the ball that you guys could have smashed our defensive line. It's a good thing AJ kept on tossing the ball.

You were likely as confused as I was, bama was KILLING us running the ball.
A smart coach who was NOT out-thinking himself, would have finished the
game from that point with NO MORE PASSES, lol. But in the end, LSU lost
BECAUSE he passed and LSU out-thunk their own selves. But I am sure that
bama could have run on every down and obliterated A&M. When your foot is
on the neck of your opponent, you do not let em up.

I UNDERSTAND that in Saban's mind, he had to pass to keep the defense honest.
But when you are bama, you ought to allow the defense to PROVE they can stop
the run before you even CONSIDER honest-keepin' a strategy.

[OLS]

JEEZ, another of the always close, undecided til the end, Ole Miss versus LSU football games.
Ole Miss played a giant football game, had the LSU secondary looking like high schoolers after what
looks like a very nice bit of film study exploitation. Couple that with another whale of a game standing tough
and tall in the pocket by Zach Mettenberger and you have a slim victory by the Tigers, won appropriately with
a daunting running attack. ALL THE best to the Ole Miss Rebels, I hope they get bowl eligible next week.
They deserve it, but they are going to have a TOUGH time with Miss State up. HELL of a game by Ole Miss.
They had LSU's number big time, we were lucky to win.

[oooo35980]

Grats to LSU, game was much closer than most would have guessed. Everything else pretty much business as usual in the SEC.

I think the big winner this Saturday was Bama. Could be Bama ND in the championship?

[icehog3]

It would be a pleasure to see Notre Dame play a real football team for a change. Frankly, I think over 1/2 the teams in the SEC could beat them handily.

[Remo]

Wow, there is gonna be a shake-up in the polls!!! Dame may be #1 and they suck!!

[icehog3]

Wow, there is gonna be a shake-up in the polls!!! Dame may be #1 and they suck!!

It would be a pleasure seeing them crushed in the BCS playoffs.

[longknocker]

It would be a pleasure seeing them crushed in the BCS playoffs.

"Hopefully", BAMA Will Oblige, Brother!:banger:D:tu

[longknocker]

Grats to LSU, game was much closer than most would have guessed. Everything else pretty much business as usual in the SEC.

I think the big winner this Saturday was Bama. Could be Bama ND in the championship?

I Hope So, Brother!:banger:D:tu

[hammondc]

BAMA / ND would be a game for the ages.

[Powers]

It would be a pleasure to see Notre Dame play a real football team for a change. Frankly, I think over 1/2 the teams in the SEC could beat them handily.

BAMA / ND would be a game for the ages.

My opinion on ND exactly.

Let's talk chaos - if ND loses to Southern Cal and Florida beats their 4th top 10 opponent at FSU next week (toughest schedule in the nation y'all), we'd very likely have another all SEC national championship :=:

[rizzle]

Do you feel that pressure?

[G G]

Go Bulldogs?

[icehog3]

"Hopefully", BAMA Will Oblige, Brother!:banger:D:tu

Hopefully Florida will get back in and oblige, Greg! ;) :r

[longknocker]

Hopefully Florida will get back in and oblige, Greg! ;) :r

:tf:D

[Powers]

Derek Dooley is officially gone:

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2012/official-derek-dooley-fired/?utm_source=SDS&utm_medium=twitter

[SvilleKid]

My opinion on ND exactly.

Let's talk chaos - if ND loses to Southern Cal and Florida beats their 4th top 10 opponent at FSU next week (toughest schedule in the nation y'all), we'd very likely have another all SEC national championship :=:

I think this has as much possibility as a Bama/ND game.:tu

[SvilleKid]

5 SEC teams in the top 10 (AP poll)! Go SEC!!!

[Bleez]

Living in Athens is going to be interesting the next couple of weeks.

Bama can't overlook Auburn and Georgia.

I hear Miami's nice in early January.

[SvilleKid]

Living in Athens is going to be interesting the next couple of weeks.

Bama can't overlook Auburn and Georgia.

I hear Miami's nice in early January.

:tu

Agreed. Despite Auburn's record, that game is NOT a gimme. Bama has been here before, and been upset before by a otherwise poorly playing Auburn!!!!

And Georgia is definitely NOT a gimme!!!!

But I know for a fact that Miami is nice in January!!

[icehog3]

Commentators on the BCS Countdown said that Notre Dame would currently be an underdog to any SEC team in the BCS top ten.

[OLS]

Commentators on the BCS Countdown said that Notre Dame would currently be an underdog to any SEC team in the BCS top ten.

Yep. two great players does not a champion make.
They could beat most of us in a test taking contest, I bet, though.

[oooo35980]

Good god I've never seen anything as bad as the Iron Bowl was this year. Auburn went undefeated two years ago and now they are the second worst team in the SEC.

Chizik might be out but I think he'll get another year, he is the only coach to win a NC at Auburn for 60 years, I don't think they'll fire him so easily.

[icehog3]

Gator chomp the Semi-holes. :D

[hammondc]

http://i50.tinypic.com/wjypv.jpg

[hammondc]

OK, one more....

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P8PlvaSO8qg/ULGcmgk4f8I/AAAAAAAACls/ASrzyUs-YrY/s391/MonsterHit_original.gif

[OLS]

Chizik might be out but I think he'll get another year, he is the only coach to win a NC at Auburn for 60 years, I don't think they'll fire him so easily. I think for the sake of not being like every other bad team in the SEC, dumping coaches, you might be right.
But Auburn seems to have pulled off a one player miracle, not CHIZIK, but that silly 'flying boy' quarterback for hire.
Obviously this is a pundit opinion, there were other factors in that championship year, maybe many, Fairley, etc.
But Chizik is no Bear Bryant. He's not even a fly on angry old Les Miles.

[Powers]

The SEC looked good yesterday, boys! :banger

Florida's victory in Tally-nasty was extra sweet. Top 10 matchup for the first time since 2000 and 9 out of 10 national pundits I saw said the Gators had no chance. #1 defense my @ss, they hadn't played anybody over there in the ACC ("Almost Collegiate Conference") and my Gators smashed 'em in the mouth :tu

And the one and only time I'll ever root for Lane Kiffin he can't come through, dammit.

But seriously guys - imagine if Ohio State wasn't on probation and we were to have an OSU-ND national title? I'd rather sponge-bath my Grandma than watch that :pu

[hammondc]

The SEC looked good yesterday, boys! :banger

..... they hadn't played anybody over there in the ACC ("Almost Collegiate Conference")
And the one and only time I'll ever root for Lane Kiffin he can't come through, dammit.





Yep. My Clemson friends are very quiet today after getting punched in the mouth in their house against a weakened SC playing with a backup quarterback on his 2nd start of the season and 3rd string RBs. Lowest points they have put up all season and the first loss in 16 games at home (I think it was 16). GET SOME!

It was like this last year. Clemson jibber jabbering about dominating the A She She and then getting their bummies gaped open at SC. So...a 'mediocre' SEC gets the trabajo done on the best that the ACC has to offer. :sl:sl:sl

[Powers]

Agree with the quality of the ACC. You will probably recoil in horror but I went to Clemson for my Masters so I have to reluctantly root for them against your Comecocks. Yet as a Florida guy I'm never sad when Spurrier wins :tu

[Powers]

Was at the Battle of the Boot this year and in typical rivalry fashion you never know what to expect. Arkansas didn't back down and played probably their best game of the season, which ain't saying much though. Thought LSU was in real danger until Arkansas made Arkansas mistakes.

They cannot get rid of John L. Smith fast enough here in Hog Country

[hammondc]

You will probably recoil in horror but I went to Clemson for my Masters.....

Not at all. I have lots of CU Almumni friends. Someone has to grow the taters and make the cheese. They make a HELLUVA good blue cheese there. :D

[hammondc]

Chizik might be out but I think he'll get another year, he is the only coach to win a NC at Auburn for 60 years, I don't think they'll fire him so easily.

Nope!!

Chizik is out. Shocker. (http://auburn.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1440348)

[Powers]

Thought he'd get canned.

One of the ESPN guys made a good point that Auburn-Bama constantly have the other in mind. Chizik haven such a horrible year while Bama is possibly going to its 3rd national title game in 4 years means he's gotta go. Can't let the gap b/w themselves and Bama grow is how they see it :2

[icehog3]

But seriously guys - imagine if Ohio State wasn't on probation and we were to have an OSU-ND national title? I'd rather sponge-bath my Grandma than watch that :pu

I would have to root for the earthquake. ;)

[Powers]

Still sweet :D

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt201/thegeneral320/ejmanuel-hit3-11-24-12.gif

[Smokin Gator]

That one was a pop Mike. One of many in that game. Love every second of that 4th quarter. The replay on Breakfast with the Gators didn't have Mick Huber announcing. It was Casey Weldon and Nat Moore. Really interesting to hear the comments Casey Weldon had about Driscoll. He was raving about him!!

[OLS]

Awwww, I wanted him to be a lifetime sex offender......
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/alabama-fan-post-bcs-championship-game-assault-lsu-173826241--ncaaf.html

Too bad. I can't even make tea anymore after this creep.

[Bleez]

Awwww, I wanted him to be a lifetime sex offender......
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/alabama-fan-post-bcs-championship-game-assault-lsu-173826241--ncaaf.html

Too bad. I can't even make tea anymore after this creep.

He and Al from Dadeville need to hang out on a deserted island. I hate idiot fans...actually, I hate idiots.

[OLS]

Looks like another game where conditioning is going to be the determining factor.
Right now UGA has the edge, but it will be who can stop the run in the 4th.
I can't believe I am watching this game.
Come on dawgs.

What I am waiting on is the contest at halftime where a lady throwing footballs
through a hole like Jerry West shooting free throws can beat a guy who thinks
he's peyton manning.

[icehog3]

Georgia is seizing the day so far in this won. Blocked FG for a TD return has them up 21-10 with 6:31 left in the 3rd. Wow.

[hammondc]

looks like another game where conditioning is going to be the determining factor.
Right now uga has the edge, but it will be who can stop the run in the 4th.




bingo!!!!

[icehog3]

bingo!!!!

Don't count those chickens yet....

(Disclaimer...I am a Gators fan).

[Gophernut]

What a game! Both teams taking punches and punching back. Great football.

[Bleez]

Punch. Counter punch. Repeat.

Roll Tide!

[longknocker]

Roll, Tide! Great Game By Both Teams, But I'm A Nervous Wreck!:D:banger:tu

[oooo35980]

Roll Tide! What a game, I'm speechless. A blocked FG for a touchdown, new record for rushing yards, came down all the way to the wire, it just doesn't get any better.

[Gophernut]

One of the best games of the year, if not the best. But if I'm Notre Dame, I didn't see a team that they can't compete with. Should be a great game in Jan.

[icehog3]

What a game!

Congrats to 'Bama and their fans, let's bring home a 7th consecutive SEC National Championship. Next game, I'm a Tide fan.

Congrats to Georgia and their fans for a great season, and their QB for a gutsy performance.

[Bleez]

Roll Tide!!! What a game! Second best I've ever witnessed...maybe 1B, behind Texas/USC NC game...

Makes it a lot easier to live in Athens for the next year for sure.

[Bleez]

Queue then"Fire Richt's" and "Bama won that game bc of the refs"... My FB feed is full of it already.

[cmitch]

I'm celebrating with a T52. Can't wait to see Bama put the whoopass on some Irish.

[hotreds]

Great game!

[icehog3]

Queue then"Fire Richt's" and "Bama won that game bc of the refs"... My FB feed is full of it already.

Always gotta blame it on someone besides their team. They played a great game against a team that was just a little bit better.

[SvilleKid]

Finally getting to watch game. First Saturday of December always family reunion in Mississippi for my mother's side of family. Mom is 84, oldest brother living (4 passed away already) is 90, and the baby of family (whose home the reunion is held) is 78.

Left there about game start time, but didn't listen to game, rather talk with mom. I got back home in time for the final Bama defensive stand! Only part I saw live. But it does make it easier to watch, knowing the final outcome!

Listening to those two jackass announcers (Vern and Gary) on that last drive, I got the impression that Georgia dominated the game, and Bama managed to squeak a win. At the end of the 3rd qtr (where I'm at now on dvr), I see a game that looks like both teams are playing hard, and it looks at this point that last team with ball could be the winner.

I sure hope there are better announcers calling the NC game. I cannot stand Vern and Gary. fast-forwarding thru most of the dead time between actual plays. That much LESS time to listen to them.

So far, I'm glad to see that Bama has stuck to running the ball!

[icehog3]

.
Right now UGA has the edge, but it will be who can stop the run in the 4th.

Good call, Brad. :tu

[Bruins Fan]

I don't watch much collage,but that was a great game:tu

[OLS]

Man, I was so sad to see that poor kid throw that ball where he threw it.
Even sadder that the wide receiver didn't intentionally drop it, I guess in the moment, he thought
he was awesome enough to make it into the endzone. So it comes down to poor old Matthew Stafford or
whatever his name is. You gotta throw it away and live to surf another day. They had bama RIGHT THERE for
the taking. At least a SEC team is heading for the Nat Champ. Shame it's the galactic empire. Come on Notre Dame. :r

Be careful what you wish for bama fans, Saban WILL bolt if you win another.

[longknocker]

Man, I was so sad to see that poor kid throw that ball where he threw it.
Even sadder that the wide receiver didn't intentionally drop it, I guess in the moment, he thought
he was awesome enough to make it into the endzone. So it comes down to poor old Matthew Stafford or
whatever his name is. You gotta throw it away and live to surf another day. They had bama RIGHT THERE for
the taking. At least a SEC team is heading for the Nat Champ. Shame it's the galactic empire. Come on Notre Dame. :r

Be careful what you wish for bama fans, Saban WILL bolt if you win another.

I Like That, Brad, "The Galactic Empire"!:wnr:banger

[longknocker]

Be careful what you wish for bama fans, Saban WILL bolt if you win another.[/QUOTE]

We Shall See, Brother, But I Say He Stays Until He Retires!:banger:tu

[Powers]

Now that was a great game! Fake field goals, blocked kicks, big hits, cant ask for much more. I was not expecting Georgia to be able to match the overall physicality of Alabama but to their credit they did and then some.

I will also echo the sentiments against Vern and Gary. They are god awful, especially Vern. He makes tons of mistakes a game and his only insight on a big play is "my goodness". I believe the national title game will be on FOX so we'll have Joe Buck callng but more importantly Erin Andrews back on the sideline :dr

Although I gotta disagree with ya Brad that Saban will leave if he wins another title. Where would he go? Don't see him going back to the NFL and he sure wouldn't leave for another college job. I think he'll be at Bama till he retires, so we'll have to get used to it :D

[longknocker]

Now that was a great game! Fake field goals, blocked kicks, big hits, cant ask for much more. I was not expecting Georgia to be able to match the overall physicality of Alabama but to their credit they did and then some.

I will also echo the sentiments against Vern and Gary. They are god awful, especially Vern. He makes tons of mistakes a game and his only insight on a big play is "my goodness". I believe the national title game will be on FOX so we'll have Joe Buck callng but more importantly Erin Andrews back on the sideline :dr

Although I gotta disagree with ya Brad that Saban will leave if he wins another title. Where would he go? Don't see him going back to the NFL and he sure wouldn't leave for another college job. I think he'll be at Bama till he retires, so we'll have to get used to it :D

Thank You, Michael; I Definitely Agree!:) May The Best Team Win In The National Championship!:tu

[icehog3]

May The Best Team Win In The National Championship!:tu

You mean Alabama, right? :)

[Bleez]

Speculation is fun. So if Bama wins #15 and Saban bolts for another college gig where'd he go?

Only 3 open spots in the SEC (I think), Auburn, Tennessee and Arkansas. If he left the conference where would he go? ACC? Big 12? Big Ten? You'd think he'd wanna rebuild a team that plays in a "prestigious" conference. Or, for sharts and giggles we could say he's going to go to his Alma Mater (Kent State) and continue their growth.

Long month before the NC...too much time to think, haha...

[longknocker]

You mean Alabama, right? :)

"Caught Me"!:D Yes, Sir!:banger

[OLS]

What's that line from BoB?? "hey Gonorhea, Don't get hit in the face when Jerry throws in the sponge", lol.
There are a lot of places ol' Nicky could go where he would not have the intense pressure-cooker environment
that there is at the Capstone. He could go HOME, he could go away, he could die of an intensity-based heart attack.
I think he should go spend time with his family. Good luck in a month, that's one I won't watch. You guys enjoy it.

[BHalbrooks]

Always gotta blame it on someone besides their team. They played a great game against a team that was just a little bit better.
As a Detroit Fan you should be used to seeing that. I have to avoid most of my friends/facebook when the Lions, Tigers, Wings, Wolverines, Spartans lose...

Be careful what you wish for bama fans, Saban WILL bolt if you win another.

Speculation is fun. So if Bama wins #15 and Saban bolts for another college gig where'd he go?

Only 3 open spots in the SEC (I think), Auburn, Tennessee and Arkansas. If he left the conference where would he go? ACC? Big 12? Big Ten? You'd think he'd wanna rebuild a team that plays in a "prestigious" conference. Or, for sharts and giggles we could say he's going to go to his Alma Mater (Kent State) and continue their growth.

Long month before the NC...too much time to think, haha...
I think he was meaning he'd leave for the NFL. I could be wrong. If Nick Saban leaves 'Bama for another College team, he's a ****ing moron. He's the Coach of the "Best" team in College football. I don't think they're the best, just like I don't think ND is worthy of the #1 spot either.

Not looking forward to the BCS Title game... I was hoping for Kansas State and Oregon. Oh well.

[longknocker]

So If BAMA & ND Aren't The "Best" 2 Teams, Who Are? BAMA Was Rated #1 In All The Computer Polls & Rankings All Year Until They Slipped Up One Game & Lost To A&M. They Just Won The SEC Championship, Arguably The Most Difficult Conference In College Football. So Which College Team Is Better Than These 2?:confused:

[emopunker2004]

So If BAMA & ND Aren't The "Best" 2 Teams, Who Are? BAMA Was Rated #1 In All The Computer Polls & Rankings All Year Until They Slipped Up One Game & Lost To A&M. They Just Won The SEC Championship, Arguably The Most Difficult Conference In College Football. So Which College Team Is Better Than These 2?:confused:

Look at his avatar. Clearly Michigan is best :r

[longknocker]

Look at his avatar. Clearly Michigan is best :r

Didn't BAMA Beat Them Earlier This Year?;):D

[Ubiquitous]

Hey, the SEC championship and Stanford vs. Oregon game were the best two games all season!

[longknocker]

Hey, the SEC championship and Stanford vs. Oregon game were the best two games all season!

:tu

[OLS]

Gotta give them credit, though, at least the Tide won their division and their championship game in 2012.
More than we can say for last year, the hanging chads championship, when they won neither.

[icehog3]

As a Detroit Fan you should be used to seeing that. I have to avoid most of my friends/facebook when the Lions, Tigers, Wings, Wolverines, Spartans lose...



Good thing I am just a Tigers fan then. ;)

But I know what you mean about those University of Michigan fans, they are obnoxious. ;)

[oooo35980]

Gotta give them credit, though, at least the Tide won their division and their championship game in 2012.
More than we can say for last year, the hanging chads championship, when they won neither.

They beat the SEC champions like red headed step children in the only shutout BCS title game in history. You can argue that they shouldn't have gotten the chance to prove they were the best, but you can't argue that they weren't the best.

[Powers]

They Just Won The SEC Championship, Arguably The Most Difficult Conference In College Football.

Arguably?? :D

[BHalbrooks]

So If BAMA & ND Aren't The "Best" 2 Teams, Who Are? BAMA Was Rated #1 In All The Computer Polls & Rankings All Year Until They Slipped Up One Game & Lost To A&M. They Just Won The SEC Championship, Arguably The Most Difficult Conference In College Football. So Which College Team Is Better Than These 2?:confused:
ND Schedule:
They beat
Navy (Suck)
Purdue (Suck, won by 3)
MSU (Suck)
Miami (Suck)
Michigan (Won by 7)
BYU (Suck, won by 3)
Pitt (Suck, Won by 3 in 3OT)
Stanford (Won by 3)
Boston College (Suck)
Wake Forest (Suck)
USC (Won by 7 I think against a Freshman QB making his 1st start)

Bama:
Michigan (Blowout, Weak Opponent)
West. Kentucky (Weak Opponent)
Arkansas (Weak Opponent)
Florida Athletic (Weak Opponent)
Ole Miss (Weak Opponent)
Missouri (Weak Opponent)
Tennessee (Weak Opponent)
3 LSU (Won by 3) First properly ranked Opponent, and they almost lost
19 A&M (Lost by 5) Second properly ranked Opponent, embarrassing loss
Western Carolina (Weak Opponent)
Auburn (Weak Opponent)
SEC Championship 3 Georgia (Won by 4) Properly ranked Opponent.

Bama and Notre Dame spent all season for the most part beating up on Weaker teams, especially Bama. I know they have their Schedules made out way in advance, but that doesn't mean they're undefeated or near to it record puts them at the top.

Just my opinion.

Look at his avatar. Clearly Michigan is best :r
We could've easily won 3 more games if we put Denard at RB the entire game, and had Gardner take the helm.

Good thing I am just a Tigers fan then. ;)

But I know what you mean about those University of Michigan fans, they are obnoxious. ;)
I will kill you.

[icehog3]

I will kill you.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Shack2.jpg

Bring it. :D

[hammondc]

I wonder if those Wolverines are up to the task of taking on my mighty mighty Gamecocks in the Outback bowl . Oh Yeah!!!!!!!!!

[icehog3]

I wonder if those Wolverines are up to the task of taking on my mighty mighty Gamecocks in the Outback bowl . Oh Yeah!!!!!!!!!

I would love to see the University of Michigan crushed by Cocks. :tu

[longknocker]

Arguably?? :D

You & I Know It, Michael, But I Was "Being Nice"!:D

[longknocker]

I would love to see the University of Michigan crushed by Cocks. :tu

:tu Apparently Michigan Thinks They Should Be No.1.;)

[icehog3]

:tu Apparently Michigan Thinks They Should Be No.1.;)

Maybe in the state, it was a down year for the Spartnas. :lr

[rizzle]

Bama and Notre Dame spent all season for the most part beating up on Weaker teams, especially Bama.

When you're ranked 1 and 2 at the end of the year, that's pretty much a given, isn't it?

Carry on...

[Gophernut]

Wisconsin's Bielama to Arkansas?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--sources--arkansas-to-hire-bret-bielema-195732340.html

[OLS]

They beat the SEC champions like red headed step children in the only shutout BCS title game in history. You can argue that they shouldn't have gotten the chance to prove they were the best, but you can't argue that they weren't the best.

I never did. I just stated that I think its a lot better in 2012 than it was in 2011.
The Tigers laid an egg. If you check the transcripts, I gave my humble congratulations
all around after the title game. But it will never sit well with me, and no matter how the end result
justifies the bizarre means for bama fans....to me, it was an insult to the other teams vying for a title
behind them. It is clear that LSU was out-coached in 2011 the BCSNCG and lost BIGTIME. But I think
there is something to be said for being entitled to play by winning your division and winning an extra
game to even get to N.O. bama just sat and home and relaxed while LSU had to nearly get the snot
beat out of em by a tough UGA squad. In the end, I respect the result. But I in no way think it was
fair to anyone but the tide. And in the end, what says a last second play goes in the other direction
and you get left out of the Big game THIS YEAR? Were you still the best team in Atlanta? It was too
close to call by my eyes. But I am in NO WAY arguing over this year. This one is done. Go Irish.

You can say I am just wishing LSU could have hid behind procedure and dodged the tide. In a way that
is exactly what I am saying. But what kind of world do we live in where you can even DO what bama did?
LSU won the west division AND the SEC. I'm still not sure bama even had a right to BE in N.O. Would it have
been a travesty for bama fans? You bet. But they are one team out of a half dozen that also had a legit shot.
The majority were not served by the imperfect system. All I can say is a playoff can't come soon enough to
suit me.In the end, the best football team won. And like I said, in 2012, at least you can hold your heads
up around the rest of division I with a straight face. :r

[OLS]

I agree with Halbrooks that bama played a lot of weak-a55 teams in 2012, but so did LSU.
I say it far too many times here, but I remember when LSU had big ole ball5 and scheduled
real football teams in the first few games of the non-con schedule and whipped em. This
year was an embarrassment to me as a fan, --EDIT( as far as Non-Con opponents) and I
think the tide fans should also be able to acknowledge that about their own schedule.
But I am only talking about LSU. Sadly it looks like a few more years until we can be free of
the Towson State's of the world.
I am proud of my team, and I think they need to live or die by playing the best in the
country, in and out of conference. Notre Dame may not have played any No.1s, but they
didn't play many pushovers, if any. OK, Wake Forest. But where are the Western kentucky
and Western Carolina's? Florida Atlantic? Sheesh.

NOW, would I want to PLAY ALABAMA? Not hardly, they will kick you in the face. But I sure
hope that Notre Dame shows up for more than an accountant's perspective on who is
the best.

[BHalbrooks]

When you're ranked 1 and 2 at the end of the year, that's pretty much a given, isn't it?

Carry on...
You don't understand. I'm saying they're given too much praise for their record when they've played horrid teams. When they've won by such convincing margins against such horrible teams, they've jumped up past where they should be.

[icehog3]

You don't understand. I'm saying they're given too much praise for their record when they've played horrid teams. When they've won by such convincing margins against such horrible teams, they've jumped up past where they should be.

Could have been worse...they could have played most of the Big 10 teams. ;)

[longknocker]

You don't understand. I'm saying they're given too much praise for their record when they've played horrid teams. When they've won by such convincing margins against such horrible teams, they've jumped up past where they should be.

Maybe Michigan Should Play Them Again? :D;):banger

[BHalbrooks]

Could have been worse...they could have played most of the Big 10 teams. ;)
All right all right, enough of this foolishness Indiana Douche. Who do you root for so I can mock you. Let me guess, since you live in Indiana and root for the Tigers, I'm guessing USC? :r
Maybe Michigan Should Play Them Again? :D;):banger
For the record:
When I looked at the Schedule again this past August I looked, looked at the year again, and felt very...... sad. I couldn't even watch past the half.

[icehog3]

All right all right, enough of this foolishness Indiana Douche. Who do you root for so I can mock you. Let me guess, since you live in Indiana and root for the Tigers, I'm guessing USC? :r



I live in Chicago, and I root for the Florida Gators. I am an enigma wrapped in a riddle.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/gators-5-1.gif

[Powers]

I live in Chicago, and I root for the Florida Gators. I am an enigma wrapped in a riddle.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/gators-5-1.gif

You're not alone, brother! Took this at the Florida-Georgia game of '10

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt201/thegeneral320/75645_10100573436156161_7238763_n.jpg

:banger

[rizzle]

You don't understand. I'm saying they're given too much praise for their record when they've played horrid teams. When they've won by such convincing margins against such horrible teams, they've jumped up past where they should be.

So where should they be?

[icehog3]

You're not alone, brother! Took this at the Florida-Georgia game of '10

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt201/thegeneral320/75645_10100573436156161_7238763_n.jpg

:banger

I want one!! :banger

[oooo35980]

I never did. I just stated that I think its a lot better in 2012 than it was in 2011.
The Tigers laid an egg. If you check the transcripts, I gave my humble congratulations
all around after the title game. But it will never sit well with me, and no matter how the end result
justifies the bizarre means for bama fans....to me, it was an insult to the other teams vying for a title
behind them. It is clear that LSU was out-coached in 2011 the BCSNCG and lost BIGTIME. But I think
there is something to be said for being entitled to play by winning your division and winning an extra
game to even get to N.O. bama just sat and home and relaxed while LSU had to nearly get the snot
beat out of em by a tough UGA squad. In the end, I respect the result. But I in no way think it was
fair to anyone but the tide. And in the end, what says a last second play goes in the other direction
and you get left out of the Big game THIS YEAR? Were you still the best team in Atlanta? It was too
close to call by my eyes. But I am in NO WAY arguing over this year. This one is done. Go Irish.

You can say I am just wishing LSU could have hid behind procedure and dodged the tide. In a way that
is exactly what I am saying. But what kind of world do we live in where you can even DO what bama did?
LSU won the west division AND the SEC. I'm still not sure bama even had a right to BE in N.O. Would it have
been a travesty for bama fans? You bet. But they are one team out of a half dozen that also had a legit shot.
The majority were not served by the imperfect system. All I can say is a playoff can't come soon enough to
suit me.In the end, the best football team won. And like I said, in 2012, at least you can hold your heads
up around the rest of division I with a straight face. :r

The point of the BCS is to find the best 2 teams for the championship, last years championship game and the records of the teams playing were a result of the #1 and #2 teams being in the same division. With a relatively arbitrary system there will always be bellyaching, but seriously do you mean to tell me you think the best two teams in college football last year weren't LSU and Bama?

[BHalbrooks]

So where should they be?

Alabama or Notre Dame?

[Powers]

Paging any Tennessee fans to comment on their sad state of affairs and if they will ever be able to hire a coach?

John L. Smith is available

[icehog3]

Alabama or Notre Dame?

Let's go with the Tide, where should they be in your opinion?

[rizzle]

Alabama or Notre Dame?

You're talking about both of them, so both of them.

[SvilleKid]

Paging any Tennessee fans to comment on their sad state of affairs and if they will ever be able to hire a coach?

John L. Smith is available

Since Auburn has passed on him, Bobby Petrino is still available!! He'd probably work for peanuts, and a new Harley!!:D

[OLS]

I heard a great lil joke by one of our local sports DJ Chris Vernon last week, and sadly I will be paraphrasing since I
have forgotten the exact wording, but he said that ironically it looks like for the first time in school history, the
coach of the Tennessee football team might be an actual VOLUNTEER.....lol....nice work Chris.

He's pretty clever. He does a lot of songs about sports stories that seem to be karaoke backing tracks with nice lyrics
and great delivery, and they come across as damn fine work. He had a great one about that 'butt shot' story from
the frat boys at UT where they were pumping vodka into their butts. Damned if I can remember what song it was to the
tune of, though.

[BHalbrooks]

Let's go with the Tide, where should they be in your opinion?

You're talking about both of them, so both of them.

Sorry I forgot about this thread.

Well, it's harder to argue that ND should be less than 1, given their undefeated record. But if we could say that playing and losing to harder teams could trump beating lesser teams:

Top 5:
1. Florida
2. Oregon
3. Kansas State
4. Bama
5. ND

Just my :2. I did want Oregon v Kansas St to end up #1 and #2.

[Powers]

Top 5:
1. Florida
2. Oregon
3. Kansas State
4. Bama
5. ND



I like this guy!!! :tu We can agree on your number #1 :wnr

[rizzle]

I'm saying they're given too much praise for their record when they've played horrid teams.

Sorry I forgot about this thread.

Well, it's harder to argue that ND should be less than 1, given their undefeated record. But if we could say that playing and losing to harder teams could trump beating lesser teams:

Top 5:
1. Florida
2. Oregon
3. Kansas State
4. Bama
5. ND

Just my :2. I did want Oregon v Kansas St to end up #1 and #2.

Remind me again who Oregon whipped up on that wasn't horrid?

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/gators-5-1.gif

[BHalbrooks]

Remind me again who Oregon whipped up on that wasn't horrid?

You don't have to get all touchy.

Oregon played some easy teams this year, like Alabama... I think Oregon is a better team. They both played less than stellar teams, and I think that Oregon is a better overall team than 'Bama.

'Bama has a really over rated Offense, however they have a very good Defense. Oregon has a better Offense, and a very good Defense.

Don't get mad because I hate Alabama and the praise they always get. They're the NFL Tebow of the SEC.

[OLS]

Bobby petrino has a job!

[OLS]

Sorry......

BOBBY PETRINO has a JOB!
Welcome to the Hilltoppers, Bobby. Park your cycle at the gate.

[rizzle]

You don't have to get all touchy.

Oregon played some easy teams this year, like Alabama... I think Oregon is a better team. They both played less than stellar teams, and I think that Oregon is a better overall team than 'Bama.

'Bama has a really over rated Offense, however they have a very good Defense. Oregon has a better Offense, and a very good Defense.

Don't get mad because I hate Alabama and the praise they always get. They're the NFL Tebow of the SEC.

Nobody getting touchy or mad. It's just a tired argument, frankly. You can't deride two teams for something and turn around and give others a pass on the same thing.

I understand you hate Bama. I hate Michigan. And we whipped y'alls ass in September. See you next time.

Carry on.

[BHalbrooks]

Nobody getting touchy or mad. It's just a tired argument, frankly. You can't deride two teams for something and turn around and give others a pass on the same thing.

I understand you hate Bama. I hate Michigan. And we whipped y'alls ass in September. See you next time.

Carry on.

Ok?

I gave a very clear reason why I had the opinion I did. I also explained why I can't stand Alabama, but you're right, apparently there's no point in this conversation continuing... I guess.

[oooo35980]

Ok?

I gave a very clear reason why I had the opinion I did. I also explained why I can't stand Alabama, but you're right, apparently there's no point in this conversation continuing... I guess.

There rarely is a point to arguing along these lines, if Michigan was going to their 3rd BCS championship in 4 years everyone that isn't a Michigan fan would be complaining about how they don't deserve it.

Because obviously they know more than everyone who calculates the BCS standings, or it's rigged in Michigan's favor, or they only played crappy teams (Because strength of schedule isn't taken into account at all in the BCS...) or some other such nonsense that people spew when things aren't going the way they think they should go.

The BCS isn't perfect by any means, but the only real travesty I've seen out of it was the year Auburn went undefeated. Otherwise it does it's job well enough, experts and a computer pick the best teams, which is no small feat when there are so many teams and very few of the top teams play each other. A playoff system will help a little, but the whiners are going to find something to whine about, inevitably. In a couple years it will be "#2 and #4 don't deserve to be in the playoffs they only played lousy teams, #5 or #6 are much better because I personally dislike the teams that got picked."

[OLS]

haha, remember though, that the very fact that your team HAS BEEN to the BCSNCG 3 of 4 years makes you
ill-qualified to state that "it does it's job well enough". At least where other people are concerned. I am
Sure you think it works just fine. Why wouldn't you? As for a playoff, I think it will be much better because
no matter who feels left out, you will hardly be able to argue about the results when the final two teams are chosen.

As we all know, I agree with the poster above, Alabama's offense is somewhat over-rated. The QB is no Johnny
Football, and they have a monster back or two, and a solid line. Well, when I say it like THAT it sounds pretty good.
But i had to laugh when all the bama people I know were telling me how AJ was a lock for the Heisman. I looked at
em with bemusement and told him I doubt he makes the top 3. A good solid D is all you need though, to prop up
an over-rated offense. Just look at the past 8-9 years of LSU football. Still, Bama did OK in 2012, I guess.

[Powers]

I think a playoff system will help things immensely as well to pick the best teams and settle things on the field. BUT I think it will only increase how much non-SEC fans complain. There's a reason Mike Slive walked outta that meeting with a huge smile when it was announced we'd have a playoff. Why?

A majority of the time the SEC will have at least 2 of the 4 teams in the playoff (this year it'd be Bama & UF). The record shows and us SEC fans know that the SEC's best consistently beats the best of the rest, which means we'll frequently (I'd guess 2 out of every 5 years) have an all SEC national championship :D

[rizzle]

I love college football. And I especially love that a team who's offense sucks, who's defense is overrated, who's coach is a compulsive liar, and who's fans are toothless, inbred, rednecks, get to play for it all. Yes, Notre Dame, welcome back. :D

[edstoggie]

Ok?

I gave a very clear reason why I had the opinion I did. I also explained why I can't stand Alabama, but you're right, apparently there's no point in this conversation continuing... I guess.

You are right there is no point in continuing because your point or opinion holds no water. You can say every every team in your top 5 had a shitty schedule.
1. Florida- Besides LSU,SC, Georgia(lost), A&M(won before they put it together) FSU (never lives up to the hype) the schedule was not very hard and almost lost to FCS UL_Lafayette, squeaked by Missou. If you can't even make it to the SEC Championship you don't deserve the NC.
2. Oregon- You said it yourself they played a terrible schedule and lost to Stanford(ND beat them not mentioned in your 2 team analysis).
3. K State- Terrible schedule beat Oklahoma(So did ND convincingly you failed to mention BTW) and lost to an RGlll-less Baylor very handily.

So, the 2 best teams are rightly so in the NC game. May the best team win!

And to the Alabama fan putting up this argument also: Yes Notre Dame is back!....:tu

[icehog3]

So, the 2 best teams are rightly so in the NC game. May the best team win!



Some might say the best 2 eligible teams are in the NC game. ;)

[OLS]

I love college football. And I especially love that a team who's offense sucks, who's defense is overrated, who's coach is a compulsive liar, and who's fans are toothless, inbred, rednecks, get to play for it all. Yes, Notre Dame, welcome back. :D

Ehh, even by your own standards, Rizz, that one was weak, lol. Were it not Notre Dame, you had
a good shot there. Hardly toothless redneck fans. Now that college football post-season has
abandoned me with my no-cable-havin-a55, I am done watching....well, I guess I get to watch the
Cotton Bowl. But on balance, who cares. Had a good Christmas with my mother, doubling my
usual 4 day stay. With my sister right next door, and my other sister travelling, too, it was a lovely
time for all. More theater movies than football, I'm afraid. But I watched Duke throw away
a but of history, Saw LA-Monroe get trounced...after those and with my NFL boycott almost at an end,
it's gonna be a slow NY. Looking for better out of LSU next year. But with our wacky coach, one can
never say for sure.

[hammondc]

Brad, I am just hoping your boys curb stomp the other Tigers on NYE. 88-3 sounds nice.

[hammondc]

Brad!! Please tell me your Tigers are more capable than this?

[oooo35980]

Les Miles is at it again, someone needs to smack him upside his head. You can't mess up clock management this bad. Especially when the refs seem to be out to get you.

[oooo35980]

Maybe the refs are just blind? I'm glad I don't have to watch many big 10 games...

[jjirons69]

C-L-E-M-S-O-N T-I-G-E-Rrrrr-S!!!

Nothing better than watching the Mad Hatter trying to use body english to pull the ball out of the uprights! Now if Michigan can upend the Crocks, the football season can officially end!

What a sweet f'in win!! 1 yard in the 4th quarter with no first downs. I likey!

A great second place win is the Yellow Jackets over the Blowjens. Don't care for either at all, but to see Kiffin's arrogant swagger get thumped is priceless!

Carry on SEC threaders...:chr

[OLS]

Congratulations to the Clemson team that beat the Tigers. Post season has not been good to the LSU Tiger teams
of late. Les Miles needs to look hard at firing the person who keeps trying to out-think opposing teams. They
are obviously not very good at it. No indication that Clemson could stop LSU's running attack, and yet they
continued to pass their way through the first half, or should I say, be sacked through the first half. I laughed
as they continued to not establish the run and run play action anyway. It was like a bunch of mental deficients
out there. I just had to laugh. I only got to watch the replay online, as I have no cable. I long for the day when
the bowls were better and they all happened on regular TV. But seeing LSU give that game up so easy, who really
cares in the end. PAH-thetic....

Congrats again.

[xFreebirdx]

In my best 300 movie mimic. "This is SPARTA!!!!!!""

Clowney flat assed told Michigan "THIS IS THE SEC!!!!!!!!!!!!"

And I hope Alabama pounds the chit out of Notre Dame next week. Because this IS the SEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vtdp_XRhuU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://youtu.be/-vtdp_XRhuU

[icehog3]

I hate U of Michigan. I love Clowney and the SEC. Muck Fichigan, losers!

That is all.

[Powers]

:jd

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt201/thegeneral320/ClowneyHit_original_zpseae9c014.gif

[oooo35980]

Pretty good bowl season thus far, other than LSU falling down on the job, and Mississippi state losing but they've lost to everyone they played who actually had a pulse this year. Expecting Florida to stomp a mud hole in Louisville tonight.