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Wanger

08-10-2012, 09:48 AM

After the offseason the Wild have had, I desperately hope that it starts on time. People have been absolutely buzzing in the Twin Cities area since July about the team.

As for the league as a whole, they definitely can't afford another labor issue like they had before. The league is making a comeback in a number of markets, at least. But therea re those that it appreas to be struggling in. The question that needs to beasked is if those markets were viable markets to begin with. Move franchises? Contract franchises? What's the best things to do? I have no idea. I do think that realignment will help the league out, though. Bring back some of the more natural geographic rivalries (I have the old Norris Division in mind).

357

08-10-2012, 11:13 AM

I'm with you on rekindling the old rivalries. Realignment is needed. Bettman doesn't get it though. I love watching hockey but it is primarily a regional sport. The league had the best product when it was a 21 team league. I doubt they can contract enough to get there, but eliminating two teams would help. 24-28 teams would be ideal. IMO the talent is spread too thin. That doesn't help the owners' position when it's time to negotiate. Guys who can score 25 goals are getting offered deals in the 9 digit range because there's no talent available. The poor wording of the existing CBA concerning long contracts is another reason. Any talent gets locked up for 10 years due to the lower cap hit. Maybe a soft cap like the NBA's is better. Not sure but trying to keep teams alive like the Panthers and the Coyotes look like a no win situation. If the league owns the teams, contract them, have a contraction draft and move on. End result is a better product. Problem is NHLPA won't go for it. Less players = less power/money for them.

CRIMPS

08-10-2012, 12:39 PM

The stars finally have what looks to be responsible ownership. Its too bad there is a good chance the season will be impacted like this. Crossing fingers things change quickly, but history suggests otherwise.

ChicagoWhiteSox

08-10-2012, 09:15 PM

Hawks need Hossa for the start of the season. He says he'll be ready, but time will tell.

Bigwaved

08-11-2012, 09:37 AM

I am not going to waste any time following the process. I will ramp up once they settle. This is becoming too common for the major sports...

Bruins Fan

08-11-2012, 01:37 PM

I am not going to waste any time following the process. I will ramp up once they settle. This is becoming too common for the major sports...
Yep me to..all the bull gets tiresome.

drjammer

08-12-2012, 07:51 AM

Yep me to..all the bull gets tiresome.

I am not going to waste any time following the process. I will ramp up once they settle. This is becoming too common for the major sports...

I agree as well but this is getting old especially when it is the only pro sport (besides the Broncos) that I truly follow. Hopefully they will get a CBA quickly but I am not holding out hope :2

Fredo456

08-30-2012, 03:16 PM

Whether the season starts on time or a little late, one thing is certain: This is long overdue.

icehog3

08-30-2012, 04:07 PM

Whether the season starts on time or a little late, one thing is certain: This is long overdue.

Wouldn't hold my breath this season either, Fred... ;)

drjammer

08-31-2012, 07:25 AM

Wouldn't hold my breath this season either, Fred... ;)

+1

shilala

08-31-2012, 08:59 AM

The owners wants to get the salaries down. Right now players get 57% of the revenue. It's funny that the NBA was at the exact same place this past year.
NHL owners want to see 46%. That won't happen. 50%, like the NBA players agreed to, would go over pretty easy, I think.
Who doesn't feel that 50/50 is fair, right?

E.J.

08-31-2012, 02:00 PM

At last nights game.....

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i397/EJB21/TrevorwLSC.jpg

Fredo456

08-31-2012, 08:31 PM

Wouldn't hold my breath this season either, Fred... ;)

You're almost certainly right. I was just covering my eventual "What did I tell you" basis, in case it did happen. Realistically, though, I think it should happen within 5 years or so, considering the core of players and the upcoming prospects. (Hey, there's no "fingers crossed" smilie?)

The owners wants to get the salaries down. Right now players get 57% of the revenue. It's funny that the NBA was at the exact same place this past year.
NHL owners want to see 46%. That won't happen. 50%, like the NBA players agreed to, would go over pretty easy, I think.
Who doesn't feel that 50/50 is fair, right?

I'm for any agreement that would get the season started on time, but I don't count on it.

jonharky

08-31-2012, 08:56 PM

Wouldn't hold my breath this season either, Fred... ;)

Cause the red wings are going to win it this year right tom? :)

icehog3

09-01-2012, 12:06 AM

Cause the red wings are going to win it this year right tom? :)

Only if Lidstrom and Gordie Howe come out of retirement. ;)

jonharky

09-01-2012, 04:26 AM

I hope its not true but I have a feeling that if they play red wings will either just barely make the playoffs or fail miserably I don't think they are going to be the dominate team they once were

E.J.

09-04-2012, 01:06 PM

Avs make Landeskog the youngest C in NHL history, at the age of 19. Hejduk gave up the C and moves to an A with Stastny.....

icehog3

09-04-2012, 04:18 PM

drjammer

09-05-2012, 07:10 AM

ESPN.com said a lockout is "all but certain" at this point. The sides don't have any further negotiations scheduled, and plan to return to the table only if one side has a significant change of position.

At this point, I am just hoping they will be playing by Thanksgiving. :(

I agree. I always look forward to each season, aside from watching the Broncos, I have lost a lot of interest in the NFL the last 15 or so years :rolleyes:

icehog3

09-05-2012, 08:33 AM

Be sad to see the momentum they have gained "south of the border" the last few years trashed by a prolonged lockout.

E.J.

09-05-2012, 10:02 PM

3rd??? Lockout under Bateman? Last time the players gave up everything, WTF is going on with the guys driving this? $$$ is up, correct? There have not been a lack of big contracts this offseason... I shake my head at this whole thing.

icehog3

09-05-2012, 10:56 PM

Millionaires battling Billionaires. The fans are the only losers in this fight. :2

357

09-06-2012, 12:01 PM

Won't they ever learn? This crap sets them back years in the sight of the fans and usually at the turnstiles.

Ahbroody

09-09-2012, 03:57 PM

This is going to suck. Not looking good.
I agree a 50/50 split seems fair.

ChicagoWhiteSox

09-13-2012, 08:21 AM

The NHL and NHLPA met yesterday again. Looks like the Union basically proposed the same thing it did back in early August. Active CBA ends in 2 days, so things look bad. Really hoping for things to get worked out soon:ih

E.J.

09-13-2012, 08:47 AM

I REALLY think we'll get an abbreviated season at best... Nothing is going to happen until a chunk of games are missed and both sides are losing $$$$$.

ChicagoWhiteSox

09-13-2012, 08:55 AM

There better be a season

icehog3

09-13-2012, 10:32 AM

I am hoping for NHL hockey by Thanksgiving. :hn

357

09-13-2012, 01:39 PM

I've heard some withing for a total meltdown in the hopes it'll end up with teams being contracted, realignment, and more. I admit my usual excitement for the upcoming season isn't what it use do be thanks to the lame offseason by the Wings.

dvickery

09-14-2012, 10:25 AM

icehog3

09-14-2012, 10:40 AM

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/count.jpg

Mwa-ah-ah.....

357

09-14-2012, 11:26 AM

i am(and always have been)on the side of the players.

50/50 split...players will be lucky(really lucky) to get this after the nba settlement last year.the players and owners remain steadfast with there stance. and just exactly what revenues are they going to share.

this and a salary rollback appear to be the main issue...i know if i was offered a 23% wage cut(for the second time)...i would be willing to walk away from my job...forever.

where is the wha when you need em...time is right for a second pro league.

to me a perfect solution would be a 16 game season followed by the playoffs...regular season is way way too long.players would be happy to play 16 games at 500,000 per game.

doesnt help that the commish looks like the count from sesame street...thats one...one lockout...thats two...two wonderful lockouts...

frustrated fan rambles on
derrek

Both sides are to blame. The players for their part in shaping the prior CBA. The owners and their GMs for circumventing the intention of the CBA with legalese to give themselves the best competitive edge possible. It'll never change. Laywers write the CBA from both ends, then the same lawyers are used to take advantage of it so that each team has the best fighting chance. End result is unsustainable 17 year $100 million contracts and teams losing money.

Contract the teams that the league owns. That's a start. Then negotiate from there.

Ahbroody

09-14-2012, 06:03 PM

Well Doan will finish his career as a Yote. Four years. Guess he looked around and for the options availble decided to just stay. :r

Wonder if there will even be a season

Justinphilly

09-15-2012, 04:42 PM

No sport can afford another lockout, but the NHL especially cannot. I've always been a big hockey fan, and I think the past few years have generated a little more interest in the sport. But this would be devastating to that momentum, and it seems the lockout is inevitable. The owners are planning to lock the players out tonight at midnight if a new CBA can't be agreed upon (and its not looking good)

icehog3

09-18-2012, 11:05 AM

"If the league (NHL) continues to insist on their (demands), then it will take a full year. That's because we are not going to cave in," Ovechkin said, according to the newspaper. "Then I will spend the entire season in the KHL. It's an absolute reality."

Monday saw no changes from either side, as talks between the league and the NHLPA remain unscheduled.

:hn :mad:

357

09-18-2012, 11:24 AM

If it comes to hardball the owners will win. Many teams are losing money as is, so a lockout means NOT losing money. For the players, they would be making a lot of money. I'm sure after a while that'll catch up to them and put pressure on the union to make concessions.

ChicagoWhiteSox

09-18-2012, 12:37 PM

This is really not good. Why can't they figure it out? Blame falls equally on both parties in my eyes. It will be a big blow to the NHL and the players if this season is not going to happen.:fl:fl

357

09-18-2012, 12:45 PM

This is really not good. Why can't they figure it out? Blame falls equally on both parties in my eyes. It will be a big blow to the NHL and the players if this season is not going to happen.:fl:fl

I agree both are to blame. I just figure the owners will win as they have other sources of income. Most of the players do not.

ChicagoWhiteSox

09-18-2012, 12:53 PM

I agree both are to blame. I just figure the owners will win as they have other sources of income. Most of the players do not.

Not sure of the financial status of the NHL, but it can't be good.

icehog3

09-18-2012, 01:36 PM

Players took a 24% paycut in 2005, now the owners want an even bigger paycut now...though league revenues are at an all-time high?

What would you tell your boss if he told you he was wanting you to give him a 25% paycut even though his profits were up?

ChicagoWhiteSox

09-18-2012, 02:06 PM

Operating Income for the NHL as a whole has been on the decline since 08 or 09. Also, in the current CBA, salary is capped at 57% of revenue. Compare that too the NBA which is 50% or even the NFL which is 48. I think MLB is even less. Yeah, teams like the Maple Leafs are operating in massive profit, well massive for the NHL, but you also have big time losses sourcing from teams like the Lightening and Blue Jackets.. Of course, full disclosure to the NHL's financial position would be great. It's hard to understand why no one has agreed yet, but with such a tiny scope at the NHL and it's position, I'm more inclined to say both parties are dragging their feet and need to hash this out.. It's going to suck not having the Hawks/NHL to watch this year:sad

icehog3

09-18-2012, 02:11 PM

I'll buy that the NHL's income is declining when they give their books full disclosure. If Columbus and Tampa are dragging down their bottom line, dump 'em. 4 divisions with 7 teams each. Perfect.

ChicagoWhiteSox

09-18-2012, 02:16 PM

What was the issue in 2005 Tom?

ChicagoWhiteSox

09-18-2012, 02:21 PM

I'll buy that the NHL's income is declining when they give their books full disclosure. If Columbus and Tampa are dragging down their bottom line, dump 'em. 4 divisions with 7 teams each. Perfect.

They should dump NJ and Dallas too! Both teams have massive amounts of debt.

icehog3

09-18-2012, 02:55 PM

What was the issue in 2005 Tom?

This was the basic issue:

The NHL, led by Commissioner Gary Bettman, attempted to convince players to accept a salary structure linking player salaries to league revenues, guaranteeing the clubs what the league called cost certainty. According to an NHL-commissioned report prepared by former U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission chairman Arthur Levitt, prior to 2004–05, NHL clubs spent about 76 percent of their gross revenues on players' salaries – a figure far higher than those in other North American sports – and collectively lost US$273 million during the 2002–03 season.

Justinphilly

09-18-2012, 05:20 PM

I'll buy that the NHL's income is declining when they give their books full disclosure. If Columbus and Tampa are dragging down their bottom line, dump 'em. 4 divisions with 7 teams each. Perfect.

I think that all four majors would benefit from an elimination of some teams, the NHL primarily. Bettman has got to be one of the worst commissioners in any sport in history. Quite a legacy.

dvickery

09-18-2012, 10:08 PM

Bettman has got to be one of the worst commissioners in any sport in history. Quite a legacy.

an interesting statement...i find i cannot disagree with you.

derrek

Prefy

09-19-2012, 09:14 AM

Quite the downer situation with the NHL, just when I thought that the NHL was make progress in the US another labour stoppage will kill and likely moved that progress backwards.

I can't really comment about the whole situation but I do hope that they get it resolved faster then what I think its going to take.

One thing that is for sure is that there is going to be some great hockey in the AHL this year. Some big name young players will be floating around, Skinner, Eberle, RNH just to name a few so if you have a chance make sure you check it out.

icehog3

09-19-2012, 10:29 AM

How are Skinner, Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins available to the AHL without clearing waivers, Matt?

ChicagoWhiteSox

09-20-2012, 09:35 AM

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/analysis-the-most-unnecessary-lockout-of-them-all/article4548860/

Prefy

09-20-2012, 09:46 AM

How are Skinner, Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins available to the AHL without clearing waivers, Matt?

It's because they are all on 3 year Entry Level Contracts and have played less then 160 games in the NHL.

The number of years exempt from waivers and the the number of games played are based on at what age they signed their first NHL contract.

icehog3

09-20-2012, 10:17 AM

Gotcha....thanks for the knowledge, Matt. :tu

Prefy

09-20-2012, 07:30 PM

Gotcha....thanks for the knowledge, Matt. :tu

No problem waivers are actually quite complex especially when you factor in re-entry waivers. :tu

ChicagoWhiteSox

09-21-2012, 09:14 AM

Didn't the NHL promise to work around the clock to hash this sh!t out?

Prefy

09-22-2012, 08:32 PM

The Detroit Red Wings have been fined an undisclosed amount by the NHL for comments made by senior vice president Jim Devellano in an interview that was published earlier this week.

The fine is reportedly in the range of $250,000....
Full Story (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=405840)

Gary Bettman and the NHL are pretty serious about their gag order on any comments to the media from within NHL organizations.

Justinphilly

09-22-2012, 08:37 PM

Someone should gag Gary Bettman.

icehog3

09-22-2012, 11:15 PM

I'm already gagging, if you know what I mean. :td

Bigwaved

09-24-2012, 11:58 PM

http://www.webleedblue.com/firebettman.html

icehog3

09-25-2012, 11:03 AM

After more than a week of stalled talks between the NHL and the players' union, there appears to be some hope that negotiations for a new collective bargaining agreement will resume this week. Formal discussions are "likely" to pick back up Friday, a source told ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun Tuesday.

Prefy

09-25-2012, 05:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8jvBdxMA-E&feature=youtu.be

:r

Justinphilly

09-25-2012, 08:29 PM

Let's make this happen here. Can't deal with a long season without NHL..

Prefy

09-28-2012, 11:06 PM

Very touching read about someone I would have never thought would be so affected by the lockout.

http://www.noozebox.com/?p=3850

icehog3

09-28-2012, 11:24 PM

Very touching read about someone I would have never thought would be so affected by the lockout.

http://www.noozebox.com/?p=3850

I see Michael at games all the time. What a great read...thanks for posting the link, Matt.

Prefy

09-28-2012, 11:38 PM

I see Michael at games all the time. What a great read...thanks for posting the link, Matt.

No problem...the article really made me think, that's for sure.

DPD6030

09-29-2012, 07:28 AM

That is a great read indeed. I too, have seen Michael on TV. I sure hope for him and all other kids (children and adults) the lockout passes and hockey begins soon.

Ahbroody

09-29-2012, 11:12 AM

Damn. That brought a tear. Storys like that often help put everything in perspective when you feel your life is so tough.

Prefy

10-05-2012, 10:29 AM

So from what I hear it sounds like the players won't even begin to negotiate if the salary rollback is on the table. Lots of people that know much more then me wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the season is toast.

On a slightly lighter note I found what could be the unnoficial "Lockout Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dcgpghm2tGw#!)"! Enjoy!

icehog3

10-05-2012, 10:50 AM

Thank goodness the Icehogs play here a few times a season. Looks like that and my own hockey may have to carry me for a long while.

Bruins Fan

10-05-2012, 12:15 PM

Screw the owners,they won't be getting any money from me.
As far as I am concerned their reputation is in the shitter.

ChicagoWhiteSox

10-05-2012, 12:18 PM

:sad

icehog3

10-05-2012, 01:14 PM

Guess I will get a discount on my Centre Ice package this year.

Gophernut

10-05-2012, 01:18 PM

Guess I will get a discount on my Centre Ice package this year.

That's certainly a cup half full type of attitude!

It figures that the NHL is cancelling games in the one season that I have been excited about the Wild in the past 6-7 years...:sl

Bruins Fan

10-05-2012, 03:00 PM

If you look around you can find a live stream to just about any league in the world,and for FREE :D

icehog3

10-05-2012, 05:35 PM

If you look around you can find a live stream to just about any league in the world,and for FREE :D

I'm lazier than Jeff Hackett in overtime. ;)

Ahbroody

10-05-2012, 07:24 PM

If you look around you can find a live stream to just about any league in the world,and for FREE :D

I tend to watch a lot of games at night after work. Live stream dont work for that. GCL allows for watching all games in condensed form 20 minutes or full games. You can also watch games days later.

But for many of the euro and Russian leagues yes streaming is very handy as is live nhl games if you can watch when played

icehog3

10-05-2012, 08:10 PM

I tend to watch a lot of games at night after work. Live stream dont work for that.

Ditto, Mike. I couldn't care less about KHL and Swedish Elite League, etc, games anyway.

Ahbroody

10-05-2012, 08:34 PM

Ditto, Mike. I couldn't care less about KHL and Swedish Elite League, etc, games anyway.

Kid changed teams a month into season. Long story coach was an Adam Henry. Now playing for Santa Clara Valley Blackhawks. Will post a picture when he gets his new jersey.

icehog3

10-06-2012, 12:21 AM

Kid changed teams a month into season. Long story coach was an Adam Henry. Now playing for Santa Clara Valley Blackhawks. Will post a picture when he gets his new jersey.

Blackhawks! :wo Now we're talkin'!

yourchoice

10-09-2012, 10:16 AM

I don't see any similar speculation anywhere (not that I looked all too hard :)) but Al Morganti and Keith Jones cohost an AM sports talk radio station here in Philly, and they suggested this morning that something is in the works and we can expect the season to start around Dec. 1. Both are known to be jokesters, but they seemed to be genuine.

We can hope....

icehog3

10-09-2012, 10:31 AM

That would be great, Joel, hope there's something to it.

One of my friend's wives looks like Keith Jones with a wig.

E.J.

10-09-2012, 10:49 AM

One of my friend's wives looks like Keith Jones with a wig.

:r:r:r

icehog3

10-15-2012, 02:07 AM

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Anibal2.png

E.J.

10-16-2012, 12:12 PM

http://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/nhl-offer-proposes-50-50-revenue-split-1.997818

TORONTO - The NHL has presented a new offer to the players that it hopes will end the lockout and allow for a full 82-game season.

League commissioner Gary Bettman says the long-term deal will split revenues with players 50-50 across the board and takes steps to guarantee the players will get full value from their existing deals.

Bettman says under the deal the season would start Nov. 2 and each team would have one additional game every five weeks in order to get a full season in.

Bettman says the proposal is now in the hands of the NHL Players' Association. The union has requested time to look the proposal over.

The current lockout is just over a month old.

The season was to start Oct. 11, but the two sides were not able to come to an agreement before then and the first 82 games of the schedule were scrapped.

icehog3

10-16-2012, 02:04 PM

Hoping for hockey!

rebelknight

10-16-2012, 02:09 PM

Shouldn't this be in the jokes section?
Seriously tho I'm hoping I get some NHL this year. On my way to the local AHL game tonight. Go Amerks

Gophernut

10-16-2012, 06:08 PM

This is a step in the right direction. A few months ago, Lou Nanne, a very well connected former player said that this is what it would take to make a deal. I hope he is right.

68TriShield

10-16-2012, 06:12 PM

Someone might need to come back from Russia :)

Bruins Fan

10-16-2012, 06:19 PM

Lets wait and see what real offer is? I'm sorry I don't believe a thing the owner say they could be just blowing smoke?

But I do think they got a wake up call with so many star players playing overseas for decent money.

icehog3

10-16-2012, 06:26 PM

There are other sticking points...One year longer to wait for free agency, revenue sharing disagreements...but this is a very good starting point.

Gophernut

10-16-2012, 07:05 PM

From what I have read about this offer, some of the problem with it is that the new CBA could affect some current contracts. So, they need to hammer that out, but I'm optimistic.

Bigwaved

10-16-2012, 08:25 PM

This has been a book titled: "How to Kill Professional Hockey for Dummies"

Gophernut

10-16-2012, 08:29 PM

This has been a book titled: "How to Kill Professional Hockey for Dummies"

:r:r

dvickery

10-16-2012, 10:09 PM

the last "lost" season brought (in canada anyhoo) poker into the limelight on tv...and its never gone away...what athletes those guys are...i was kind of hoping for a prolonged strike/lockout to see what other lame stuff the sports media companies can come up with.

i want hockey so bad
derrek

GreekGodX

10-17-2012, 07:55 AM

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Anibal2.png

:tu

Really hoping the whole season doesn't get locked out. From the sounds of it that probably won't happen but who knows.

CRIMPS

10-17-2012, 08:33 AM

This has been a book titled: "How to Kill Professional Hockey for Dummies"

Winner.

Today will be a big day, hopefully.

icehog3

10-18-2012, 04:15 PM

Winner.

Today will be a big day, hopefully.

Nope. :(

Bruins Fan

10-18-2012, 04:39 PM

The players are dug in and not going to get bent over again.
The offer the owners made was to make Donald Fehr look bad,not going to happen.
My guess no hockey until late December,if it happens at all?

Bruins Fan

10-24-2012, 08:04 AM

Oh,the horror. Patrick Kane is joining our wonder boy Tyler Seguin in Switzerland.
It's bad enough Seguin is running wild banging everything in sight,now with Kane on the same team they might just get deported?:D

icehog3

10-24-2012, 08:48 AM

ChicagoWhiteSox

10-24-2012, 09:11 AM

E.J.

10-26-2012, 11:47 AM

....and now we're into December.....

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=408188

ChicagoWhiteSox

10-26-2012, 11:58 AM

I'm sad:(

LasciviousXXX

10-26-2012, 11:59 AM

....and now we're into December.....

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=408188

Damnit....

Gophernut

10-26-2012, 12:13 PM

Not good at all. This is depressing.
Posted via Mobile Device

icehog3

10-26-2012, 12:35 PM

The NHL is playing hardball, douchebag style. I hope the players continue to tell them to shove it.

Ahbroody

10-26-2012, 07:40 PM

Anybody see this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/york-islanders-brooklyn-2015-major-barclays-center-announcement-144809123--nhl.html

Gophernut

10-26-2012, 08:09 PM

I did, interesting.

Ahbroody

10-30-2012, 10:17 PM

I am not going to last much longer.
With baseball over I need hockey. Going to have to sub to AHL online or something.

icehog3

10-30-2012, 10:51 PM

I am not going to last much longer.
With baseball over I need hockey. Going to have to sub to AHL online or something.

No junior teams close by, Mike?

Bruins Fan

10-31-2012, 04:11 AM

NHL..has there ever been such a poorly run organization in the history of sports?
Winter Classic will be canceled tomorrow so they don't have to pay Michigan Three million.

Brian D.

10-31-2012, 09:35 AM

I am not going to last much longer.
With baseball over I need hockey. Going to have to sub to AHL online or something.

Hello. These strikes/lockouts really get to some of the fans. When friends lament about these matters I tell 'em to get outta the house, go outside, and PLAY! I see you reside where that's a year-round option, us midlanders have a hard time doin' the recreation thing along about this time on the calendar.

MurphysLaw

10-31-2012, 09:55 AM

I'm sad:(

:tpd:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--pGfIEO9Ias/TkVgXCoKHqI/AAAAAAAAA0I/g-AiJUyufpc/s1600/sad-panda.jpg

icehog3

10-31-2012, 10:31 AM

NHL..has there ever been such a poorly run organization in the history of sports?
Winter Classic will be canceled tomorrow so they don't have to pay Michigan Three million.

Bettman has already said the 2014 WC will be in Michigan is the currrent season's game is cancelled.

Hello. These strikes/lockouts really get to some of the fans. When friends lament about these matters I tell 'em to get outta the house, go outside, and PLAY! I see you reside where that's a year-round option, us midlanders have a hard time doin' the recreation thing along about this time on the calendar.

Word...I play ice hockey 3-5 times a week, so that's my hockey for now.

LasciviousXXX

10-31-2012, 10:45 AM

I will be SOOO extremely sad if they cancel the WC. I was really looking forward to the Alumni reunion :( :( :(

Ahbroody

10-31-2012, 01:57 PM

Hello. These strikes/lockouts really get to some of the fans. When friends lament about these matters I tell 'em to get outta the house, go outside, and PLAY! I see you reside where that's a year-round option, us midlanders have a hard time doin' the recreation thing along about this time on the calendar.

My Saturday this week is my oldest son age 7 has roller hockey practice with the Jr. Inline Sharks travel roller team at 7am, supposed to then go to Oakland 1hr drive to play a few ice hockey games 10-2pm with his travel ice team Santa Clara Blackhawks. Then hes supposed to play a game on his inhouse ice team that night 6pm. My son loves hockey and skates 4-5 days a week. He also does Judo with my oldest daughter who is 4. Trust me I am rarely sitting around my house. Cant wait till baseball season starts so we can try to squeeze that in.

No junior teams close by, Mike?

We have the ECHL SF Bulls. This is their first season, but its an hour both ways freeway driving. Other issue is no time and money is strapped with all the kids activities. The $20 per month for the package is about all I can afford.

icehog3

10-31-2012, 02:42 PM

Yup, that's a lot of driving, etc for the Bulls, Mike. Lemme know what you think of the package if you get it.

E.J.

11-05-2012, 12:46 PM

Here is a "South of the Border" Ice Hog's jersey for you, Tom......

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i397/EJB21/Los-IceHogs-jersey.jpg

mahtofire14

11-05-2012, 01:29 PM

The one year the Wild actually have a shot to content and there's not freaking season. :gary Can't take it anymore!!!

icehog3

11-05-2012, 02:35 PM

Here is a "South of the Border" Ice Hog's jersey for you, Tom......

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i397/EJB21/Los-IceHogs-jersey.jpg

That is bad-ass, E.J.! :r

Sumatra Samurai

11-05-2012, 04:47 PM

Lets go CHL!

Brian D.

11-09-2012, 06:49 PM

Okay this is probably a stupid question but I'll ask it anyhow: I have very basic cable TV, no sports packages etc. Nor have I ever had a satellite dish or the like.

Are people getting any sort of discount on their bills based on the fact that there's no NHL hockey currently being played, hence no new games to watch?

icehog3

11-09-2012, 10:25 PM

Yes....I didn't get billed for Centre Ice this season.

Besides that, I haven't heard of any discount anywhere on Dish or cable because of hockey.

Ahbroody

11-09-2012, 10:58 PM

For fuc& sakes this needs to end. I watched basketball the other night. My wife walked in the room and just started laughing. I cant remember the last time I watched basketball. I dont think I will be doing that again. I am about to pony up money to watch minor league hockey.

icehog3

11-09-2012, 11:07 PM

I'm jonesin' too, I just looked at the Chicago Wolves site for tickets, and they are on a 3 week road trip. :hn

But I won't watch NBA basketball unless it's Chamberlain V. Alcindor. ;)

ChicagoWhiteSox

11-09-2012, 11:09 PM

I'm jonesin' too, I just looked at the Chicago Wolves site for tickets, and they are on a 3 week road trip. :hn

But I won't watch NBA basketball unless it's Chamberlain V. Alcindor. ;)

I'd watch more Bulls games, but with D Rose.....:gary

icehog3

11-09-2012, 11:36 PM

I'd watch Bulls games with Chet Walker, Bob Love or Norm VanLier. ;)

E.J.

11-10-2012, 07:26 AM

I have found myself catching bits of different brands of hockey on television.... KHL, minor league stuff....still have not watched any college hockey....but may actually go to Utah vs Washington(club) tonight....

icehog3

11-10-2012, 10:12 AM

ESPN.com is reporting that the talks took an ugly turn Friday night...still a deep division in the "Make Whole" clause. No new talks are scheduled at this point. :hn

ChicagoWhiteSox

11-10-2012, 10:46 AM

I'd watch Bulls games with Chet Walker, Bob Love or Norm VanLier. ;)

Miss Red on games and Norm on post game:(

Bruins Fan

11-10-2012, 01:54 PM

This is an owner problem.
At least four teams should be eliminated why should players pay for their bad business decisions?
And F Jeremy Jacobs he is spear heading this bull crap.

icehog3

11-10-2012, 01:55 PM

This is an owner problem.
At least four teams should be eliminated why should players pay for their bad business decisions?
And F Jeremy Jacobs he is spear heading this bull crap.

Can the Bruins be one of them?

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/laughingmouse.gif

GreekGodX

11-13-2012, 08:12 AM

Sakic, Bure, Oates, and Sundin in the HOF. I remember hating Sakic and Oates when they were on the Avalanche. Great players. Sundin was my Canadian cousins hero. I remember seeing some amazing plays from Sundin. Spent the past 20 minutes watching highlights—amazing.

A bright light in a bad situation. Wish this lockout would be over already.

icehog3

11-13-2012, 09:09 AM

Oates played a few season with the Wings, Son, but he never played for the Avs. :)

E.J.

11-19-2012, 01:43 PM

Back at the table today, after an 8 day rest..... FIX THIS!!!!!

http://blogs.buffalonews.com/sabres/2012/11/nhl-set-to-resume-talks-later-today-with-players-union-setting-the-agenda.html

icehog3

11-24-2012, 08:09 AM

The league announced its latest round of cancellations on Friday - Day 69 of its labor lockout. All games through Dec. 14 were wiped out, and this time All-Star Weekend, scheduled for Jan. 26-27 in Columbus, Ohio, was lost, too.

GreekGodX

11-24-2012, 08:22 AM

Oates played a few season with the Wings, Son, but he never played for the Avs. :)

Yea I don't know where I pulled that out of. Probably because I should have been studying instead of posting :r :bh

I wonder if the NHL could collapse because of this lockout.

ksknnr

11-27-2012, 06:57 PM

This is getting ridiculous, thank god for the nfl, but not sure what to do after February

Ahbroody

11-28-2012, 09:26 AM

http://www.menswearhouse.com/shop/Srch_12751_12001_____?preview=&searchType=search&searchTerm=nhl

Good deal on nhl gear many teams of fans here represented. Most stuff is on clearance and buy one get one on top of that. I think if your a FB or a extra large human like the hog you may have some trouble only saw one XXL. Bought a lot of Hawks gear as thats the ice team my kids playing for.

E.J.

11-28-2012, 10:00 AM

Not one stinkin' piece of Avs gear.... Obviously sold out prior to the sale!

Those are great deals.....

icehog3

11-28-2012, 11:22 AM

Not one stinkin' piece of Avs gear.... Obviously sold out prior to the sale!

Or just tossed out.

;s :noon

drjammer

11-29-2012, 07:14 AM

Or just tossed out.

;s :noon

After the last couple of seasons you may be right :r

ChicagoWhiteSox

11-29-2012, 07:16 AM

Gophernut

11-29-2012, 07:58 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/josh-harding-diagnosed-multiple-sclerosis-minnesota-wild-goalie-143422715--nhl.html

Wild Goalie Josh Harding diagnosed with MS. He is a very good goalie who has been a huge supporter of a number of different causes. Classy guy, and I wish him well.

Ahbroody

11-29-2012, 08:51 AM

Thanks for the link, got a couple different things:tu

Glad to hear. I spent almost $50 myself.

icehog3

11-29-2012, 11:25 AM

icehog3

12-04-2012, 11:24 AM

Not much hope for the owners-players meeting set for today, since that jerkoff owner of the Bruins, believed to be the owner's ringleader in the lockout, is participating.

E.J.

12-04-2012, 11:30 AM

I hope that the moderator can get something rolling....

Chances of this thing is going into next year.....meaning '13-'14 season? I'm saying 60/40 right now.....

icehog3

12-04-2012, 11:55 AM

I hope that the moderator can get something rolling....

Chances of this thing is going into next year.....meaning '13-'14 season? I'm saying 60/40 right now.....

Mediation already failed, E.J......sounds like this owner-player only meeting might be the last chance before the players disband the union and sue the owners under anti-trust laws.

E.J.

12-04-2012, 12:19 PM

Mediation already failed, E.J......sounds like this owner-player only meeting might be the last chance before the players disband the union and sue the owners under anti-trust laws.

I assumed they had a moderator in the meeting today to facilitate it.....

Again, I am starting to think we're not getting NHL hockey this season....:gary

icehog3

12-04-2012, 12:36 PM

I assumed they had a moderator in the meeting today to facilitate it.....

Again, I am starting to think we're not getting NHL hockey this season....:gary

I'd say we have about 3-4 weeks before they nut the whole season.

God only knows how long the case will drag on if they sue.

icehog3

12-04-2012, 08:06 PM

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/alliwant.png

E.J.

12-06-2012, 07:12 AM

.....and just when I'm almost resigned to a year without NHL hockey.....they pull me back in...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-nhlpa-hold-extended-candid-talks-critical-open-070452168--nhl.html

icehog3

12-06-2012, 09:28 AM

Indeed, E.J.......hope once again.

icehog3

12-06-2012, 05:10 PM

Talks in the NHL labor fight broke down after just one hour Thursday night, and it isn't known when the league and the players' association would get back together.

After several hours of waiting for discussions to resume for a third consecutive day, the conversations didn't go well and had none of the momentum that existed Tuesday and Wednesday.

:hn :hn

Bruins Fan

12-07-2012, 03:22 AM

Time to start decertification and start antitrust suits.
Screw the owners and the NHL. :sl

Gophernut

12-07-2012, 07:43 AM

Time to start decertification and start antitrust suits.
Screw the owners and the NHL. :sl

Very disappointing news. I don't think it's a coincidence that the talks go south again as soon as Bettman and Fehr are back involved. It's like a pi$$ing contest. Between the two egos, they will ruin the NHL for good. Bastards.:2

drjammer

12-07-2012, 09:14 AM

Very disappointing news. I don't think it's a coincidence that the talks go south again as soon as Bettman and Fehr are back involved. It's like a pi$$ing contest. Between the two egos, they will ruin the NHL for good. Bastards.:2

:tu

icehog3

12-07-2012, 10:43 AM

I worry about how long a court battle would ensue if the PA decertifies the union. Might the start of the 2013-14 season even be delayed?

Would the owners reconsider their position and settle before the court battle begins?

I am guessing if there is no agreement by New Years, this season is history.

Gophernut

12-11-2012, 07:33 AM

More cancellations yesterday. My guess is that we have lost yet another NHL season.

icehog3

12-11-2012, 08:55 AM

Scott Burnside and a couple other ESPN analysts seem to think it might get done this week. (hope hope hope).

I would guess Jan 1st as the drop dead date.

E.J.

12-11-2012, 09:10 AM

Pull me back in, Tom.....:gary

Bruins Fan

12-11-2012, 11:28 AM

Scott Burnside and a couple other ESPN analysts seem to think it might get done this week. (hope hope hope).

I would guess Jan 1st as the drop dead date.

It makes sense the TV money kicks in in January. Piss off NBC and your cutting your own throat,not that it matters to the scumbag owners.

Sawyer

12-11-2012, 02:23 PM

The whole thing is very disappointing to me. I really just got back into seriously watching hockey over the past several years since the last time this happened. Even if they do have a season, I may not watch. Who am I kidding? Of course I will watch.

icehog3

12-11-2012, 05:00 PM

Bruins Fan

12-12-2012, 03:52 AM

Sharks give Bruins Legend a tryout:r
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/worcester-sharks-sign-bruins-anthem-singer-rene-rancourt-171247511--nhl.html

Bax

12-12-2012, 04:50 AM

:sl...More cancelations.......

icehog3

12-15-2012, 04:34 PM

NHL files suit against the players, alleging that the bargained in bad faith. Gimmie a break.

Players are preparing to vote on decertification on the union.

Not looking good, we need a miracle. Where's Herb Brooks when you need him?

E.J.

12-17-2012, 10:55 AM

Not exactly NHL hockey, but at least it's hockey related and put a smile on my face....

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i397/EJB21/Hockey-1_zps49e05146.jpg

icehog3

12-17-2012, 02:30 PM

No news on the players' vote to decertify the union.

But while we're handing out smiles.....

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Hockeygirl2.jpg

icehog3

12-20-2012, 05:59 PM

The NHL announced the cancellation of more games on Thursday, this time through Jan. 14, as time is running out to salvage a season.

In total, 625 regular-season games, or 50.8 percent of the entire schedule, has been canceled.

More news will come Friday when voting wraps up among the 700-plus players who were asked by the NHLPA's executive board for authorization to file a disclaimer of interest in order to dissolve the union and attempt to have the lockout deemed illegal. Whether the executive board will file a disclaimer remains to be seen but it has until Jan. 2 if it gets a "yes" vote from players Friday.

During a news conference on Dec. 6 in New York after talks broke up again, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman suggested that anything less than a 48-game season would not be acceptable. Given that the league has said it is willing to push a season into late June, a 48-game season would likely have to begin around the third week of January.

E.J.

12-25-2012, 10:45 AM

Looks like the Utah Grizzlies are going to have a little more talent on the ice come Friday...

http://www.abc4.com/sports/story/Trevor-Lewis-signs-with-Grizzlies/KmM9zOZvtUK3fQM8owE7MQ.cspx

icehog3

12-28-2012, 09:55 AM

A shred of hope?

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/8786610/nhl-presents-new-offer-time-runs-short-player-source-says

Gophernut

12-28-2012, 12:00 PM

A shred of hope?

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/8786610/nhl-presents-new-offer-time-runs-short-player-source-says

Looks promising. Crossing my fingers!

E.J.

12-28-2012, 06:28 PM

Oh how I hope something gets done....PLEASE!!!!

drjammer

12-29-2012, 06:49 AM

Oh how I hope something gets done....PLEASE!!!!

Amen!

stevefrench

12-30-2012, 01:36 PM

You seen this one, Tom? :D
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/stevefrench_photo/LosIceHogs_12_zps9f708f0c.jpg

yourchoice

12-30-2012, 01:41 PM

Amen!

:tpd:

icehog3

12-30-2012, 02:10 PM

You seen this one, Tom? :D
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/stevefrench_photo/LosIceHogs_12_zps9f708f0c.jpg

Yes.....NEED. :lr

E.J.

01-03-2013, 08:31 AM

Congrats to the USA mens Jr. Worlds team, who beat Canada this AM to move to the Championship game.....

http://www.sbnation.com/2013/1/3/3831112/usa-vs-canada-final-score-recap-world-junior-hockey-2013

World Junior hockey 2013, USA vs. Canada: Americans crush rivals, will play for gold
By Travis Hughes on Jan 3, 6:46a

Team USA cruised to victory over the rival Canadians, advancing to the gold medal game of the 2013 WJC.

The United States utterly dominated Canada in every facet of the hockey game Thursday morning, advancing to the gold medal game of the World Junior Championship with a 5-1 win over their rivals to the north. That is a rare sentence.

From start to finish, Team USA outplayed Canada in all three zones of the ice, leaning on a relentless forecheck, strong defensive coverage, great special teams and phenomenal goaltending from John Gibson en route to the victory.

Captain Jake McCabe opened the scoring in the first period, scoring two nearly identical goals on netminder Malcolm Subban from the high slot. The Americans kept on the gas pedal through the second period, being tested by just a handful of Canadian chances. Goals from Boston College's Johnny Gaudreau and Harvard's Jim Vesey opened up the lead to 4-0 as Subban was chased from the game and replaced by backup Jordan Binnington.

Binnington held Canada in the game throughout the second half of the game, making a number of key stops. It put Canada in the position to get on the board and try to make something of the game with a shorthanded goal at the 4:03 mark of the third, trimming the American lead to 4-1.

The goal shouldn't have counted, as a quick (and, it should be noted, incorrect) whistle blew the play dead prior to the goal. Gibson and the USA defense clearly stopped playing at the sound of the whistle, giving Ty Rattie an easy shot at the back of the net. But after review, the IIHF officiating crew allowed the goal.

Canada got their legs under them afterward, generating long stretches of possession and a number of quality scoring chances for the first time in the game, but Gibson was more than up to the task. He made 15 saves in the third period alone -- 37 total in the game -- and robbed the Canadians of point-blank chances on more than one occasion.

Gaudreau scored again off a stretch pass from Vesey with 4:19 remaining in the third to seal the victory for the USA.

The Americans play for gold against the winner of the semifinal matchup between Sweden and Russia, which will come later in the day from Ufa.
Canada, meanwhile, will play for bronze against the loser of that matchup. Both games are on Saturday morning.

Gophernut

01-03-2013, 01:42 PM

Congrats to the USA mens Jr. Worlds team, who beat Canada this AM to move to the Championship game.....

Great game! They definitely found the scoring ability again. Should be a great championship game against Sweden.

icehog3

01-05-2013, 10:28 PM

Congrats to Team USA on their Gold Medal at the World Junior Championships! :wnr

Now let's get this lockout ended this week! :tu

Steve

01-05-2013, 10:33 PM

You seen this one, Tom? :D
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/stevefrench_photo/LosIceHogs_12_zps9f708f0c.jpg

:tu:tu

Bruins Fan

01-06-2013, 06:12 AM

It's OVA !!
http://www.csnne.com/hockey-boston-bruins/bruins-talk/NHL-is-back-on-the-ice-as-tentative-labo?blockID=820565&feedID=3352

E.J.

01-06-2013, 06:39 AM

'Bout time....:mad:

:noon

drjammer

01-06-2013, 07:30 AM

Just in time, I don't think I would have made it after the NFL season is finished :noon:tu:)

icehog3

01-06-2013, 07:57 AM

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/st.jpg

Really? Hockey? Oh, Boy!

Gophernut

01-06-2013, 09:11 AM

YES! Finally we'll get to see our two new additions!

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2/gophernut/suterparise_zpsfb1299d8.jpg

Fredo456

01-06-2013, 11:02 AM

Finally!
Season should start 15th or 19th, depending on ratification. Can't wait.

ChicagoWhiteSox

01-06-2013, 11:10 AM

YES!!
http://committedindians.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/jonathan_toews1.jpg

Eleven

01-06-2013, 01:15 PM

Me So Happy.

mahtofire14

01-06-2013, 01:22 PM

Have they said how long it will take to get the games going again?

icehog3

01-06-2013, 01:25 PM

Have they said how long it will take to get the games going again?

Between Jan 15th and 19th .

yourchoice

01-06-2013, 08:21 PM

:noon:noon:noon

sikk50

01-06-2013, 09:07 PM

:noon

cobra03

01-06-2013, 10:51 PM

:wo I had to go and refresh my memory of who was still on the Sabres roster.

ksknnr

01-07-2013, 06:38 AM

Its about time. I don't think I could have watched basketball until the baseball season started.

E.J.

01-07-2013, 11:14 AM

Bovoda Sportsbook has opened with the following favorites to win LSC.

Pittsburgh Penguins - 8/1

New York Rangers - 17/2

Vancouver Canucks - 9/1

Los Angeles Kings - 12/1

Philadelphia Flyers - 12/1

My Avs are a 40/1(tied with the Ducks, Stars, Panthers, Sens & 'Yotes), ahead of only the Flames, Jets, Isles & Blue Jackets.

chaase321

01-07-2013, 12:15 PM

Pittsburgh Penguins - 8/1

Well duh :noon:noon

I'm so excited it...and I just can't hide it! :D

irratebass

01-07-2013, 01:28 PM

Well duh :noon:noon

I'm so excited it...and I just can't hide it! :D

Lets Go Pens!!!!

Bruins Fan

01-07-2013, 03:51 PM

I not running back,the NHL owners can suck wind as far as far I'm concerned. I think they need a few empty houses hit them in the pocket book!

Ahbroody

01-07-2013, 11:09 PM

Happy to be able to watch some hockey.
Sharks apparently had 11 players playing overseas. Some think this may give the team a leg up in a shortened season.

icehog3

01-07-2013, 11:24 PM

Veteran defenseman Lubomir Visnovsky is planning to stay in Europe rather than return to the NHL and play for the New York Islanders, his agent confirmed to ESPNNewYork.com.

Can you blame him?? :lr

Fredo456

01-08-2013, 01:58 PM

Veteran defenseman Lubomir Visnovsky is planning to stay in Europe rather than return to the NHL and play for the New York Islanders, his agent confirmed to ESPNNewYork.com.

Can you blame him?? :lr

I thought IIHF regulations prevented this. In which case, yes, I blame him.

icehog3

01-08-2013, 02:42 PM

I thought IIHF regulations prevented this. In which case, yes, I blame him.

The KHL came out today and said they would not let players with current NHL contracts to play in the K after the NHL starts. It wil be interesting to see where this goes.

Of course, I meant "can you blame him" because the Islanders suck so bad. :r

Fredo456

01-09-2013, 08:30 AM

Of course, I meant "can you blame him" because the Islanders suck so bad. :r

They'll never improve if even their average, past their prime players can't be bothered to play for them. It is a shame the way this franchise has been run in the past XX years.

About the KHL, even Kovalchuk was considering remaining there. I have nothing against Russians playing in Russia, but when thay have an NHL contract, they have to honor it. GMs, after all, put effort into drafting/signing/trading for them.

icehog3

01-09-2013, 02:46 PM

Agreed on honoroing the contract. I hear the Devils, and Kovalchuk's agent, expect him back.

Bigwaved

01-09-2013, 07:22 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WITMbNF16a4#t=6s

icehog3

01-09-2013, 07:23 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fOs25GJU2g

chippewastud79

01-12-2013, 02:14 PM

Don't know if anyone else saw this, but looks like Doc is staying on his game until the start of the season. :tu

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rock-center/50428864#50428864

icehog3

01-12-2013, 02:25 PM

If you want to see the top prospects for the 2013 NHL draft, NHL TV will be airing the CHL Prospect game live on 1/16/13.

This one isn't like an "all star" game, and usually features hard hitting, serious defense and an occassional scrap.

E.J.

01-12-2013, 02:26 PM

icehog3

01-12-2013, 02:31 PM

Have never even seen one, so will set the DVR now.... Thanks for the heads up!

The best 36 players in the Canadian Junior leagues....should be a good one, E.J.! :tu

icehog3

01-13-2013, 04:25 PM

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/BlackhawksLetter.png

Screw that, give us some discounted tickets!

E.J.

01-13-2013, 05:35 PM

I heard a rumor about free Center Ice for the season.... Any legs to this?

icehog3

01-13-2013, 05:58 PM

I heard a rumor about free Center Ice for the season.... Any legs to this?

I checled the DirecTV website this morning, looks like their plan is just to charge for a partial season, unless the league steps in.

icehog3

01-13-2013, 06:05 PM

Hawks GM likes roster, doesn't anticipate trade.

Has he watched our goaltender play?? :hn

cobra03

01-13-2013, 10:36 PM

Was up in Toronto for the weekend and finally made it to the Hockey Hall of Fame. Good time, even the wife enjoyed it. Got to put my arm around the Cup for a nice pic.

drjammer

01-14-2013, 06:57 AM

Now that we have a season, I would like to give a shout out and good luck to one of my favorite coaches. Good luck to Bob Hartley and the Calgary Flames. You guys are getting one hell of a coach and I truly miss him here in Colorado.:tu

dvickery

01-16-2013, 01:09 AM

tom...can you change the thread title from "NHL '12 - '13 Thread" to "NHL '13 Thread".

enough already lets get it started.

derrek

icehog3

01-16-2013, 03:06 PM

tom...can you change the thread title from "NHL '12 - '13 Thread" to "NHL '13 Thread".

enough already lets get it started.

derrek

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Borat-VeryNice.jpg

Steve

01-16-2013, 03:16 PM

Is Hockey still around????

J/K...If more sports were like hockey, more sports would be interesting! For example, take golf. PLEASE! :noon

sikk50

01-17-2013, 07:08 AM

Quack

Bruins Fan

01-17-2013, 08:29 AM

The B's will give you vouchers for three hot dogs and or some other crap they call food as a thank you for being a good lemming.

It must of been painful for Neely to make that announcement?

icehog3

01-17-2013, 10:33 AM

Ooh, $1.50 (real cost) worth of food for your $100 ticket....how generous. :rolleyes:

icehog3

01-17-2013, 08:09 PM

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/BURNS_NEW_BEARD.jpg

drjammer

01-18-2013, 06:40 AM

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/BURNS_NEW_BEARD.jpg

Too funny :r

dijit

01-18-2013, 07:10 AM

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/BlackhawksLetter.png

Screw that, give us some discounted tickets!

Hell yeah! and a hotel so I dont have to drive back after the game!

shilala

01-18-2013, 09:48 AM

For example, take golf. PLEASE! :noon
Golf is not a sport. If you can play it on a date, or play it while smoking a cigar, it's not a sport. It's a game.

icehog3

01-18-2013, 01:00 PM

Golf is not a sport. If you can play it on a date, or play it while smoking a cigar, it's not a sport. It's a game.

:tu

I have arguments with a guy at work....I call it a "pastime". :r

Ahbroody

01-18-2013, 09:44 PM

Steve

01-18-2013, 10:13 PM

:tu

I have arguments with a guy at work....I call it a "pastime". :r

:tu:tu

:po

Seriously though, I have a hard time walking and talking, skating and contolling a puck...bad a$$!

Ahbroody

01-18-2013, 10:25 PM

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/BURNS_NEW_BEARD.jpg

Somebody looks like they been hanging out in San Fran with the hippies

shilala

01-19-2013, 08:45 AM

Wait a minute. I will preface this by saying I have gotten into heated arguments about hockey being the most difficult sport to play given speed, skill, toughness required.

I have seen people play hockey drunk as hell, you could do pickup smoking a stogie, and I have seen couples playing together. While golf is not as physically demanding it is a specialized skill sport. No I dont play, but I think it is a sport as most every scrub cant go out and play effectively.

I would argue of all the sports football basketball and soccer involve the most basic of human skills running, throwing, kicking and catching. Children can do these things easily. Thats why they are thr most popular in my view. Anybody can go outside with a ball and play. Baseball requires more skill as does hockey and golf.
I wouldn't get in any sort of heated argument about it cause everyone's allowed to have an opinion in my book, and they're certainly allowed to keep it.
The "can you play it on a date or while you're smoking a cigar" rule is a great way to divide sports from games.
Flag football is kinda like football. You could smoke a cigar and take a date. It's still not a sport, it's a fun game. You can smoke a cigar with a date playing Yahtzee. It sure isn't a sport. You can't win unless you're good, or have "specialized skills". I know that cause Weeze whips my ass on a regular basis. It still ain't a sport. :)

When we apply the rule, it's applied in the purest sense. I wouldn't take a date to play men's softball. She'd get killed. I wouldn't smoke a cigar because I wouldn't be able to play. Sport.
At picnics we have pick up games of softball. Girls and kids play. Cigar smoking is not only present, it's encouraged. Game.

Ya gotta argue apples to apples, man. If ya jump all over the place I could make an argument for cake baking and putting on a robe being a sport. :lr

shilala

01-19-2013, 08:49 AM

:tu

I have arguments with a guy at work....I call it a "pastime". :r
Right. I struggle and curse and flail around and check my balls every morning when I get out of bed. I don't call that "Golf". :lr :lr :lr

icehog3

01-19-2013, 10:03 AM

DirecTV is offering the service for four payments of $14.99 compared to the normal rate of four payments of $42.95 for the full season. The prorated discount is nearly 40 percent off the normal price, with DirecTV offering many of the same perks of Center Ice as iN DEMAND.

Apparently due to contractual issues with cable and satellite, the NHL offering it free for this season was never going to happen. At $59.96 for the season, I willl likely keep it.

shilala

01-19-2013, 01:15 PM

They're handing out championship rings in LA right now. Then they get spanked by the Hawks. :tu
I'd like to go in and watch the Pens, I'm gonna have to catch it after the first period.

icehog3

01-19-2013, 03:19 PM

So far, so good for Game 1. :)

Ahbroody

01-19-2013, 05:27 PM

I wouldn't get in any sort of heated argument about it cause everyone's allowed to have an opinion in my book, and they're certainly allowed to keep it.
The "can you play it on a date or while you're smoking a cigar" rule is a great way to divide sports from games.
Flag football is kinda like football. You could smoke a cigar and take a date. It's still not a sport, it's a fun game. You can smoke a cigar with a date playing Yahtzee. It sure isn't a sport. You can't win unless you're good, or have "specialized skills". I know that cause Weeze whips my ass on a regular basis. It still ain't a sport. :)

When we apply the rule, it's applied in the purest sense. I wouldn't take a date to play men's softball. She'd get killed. I wouldn't smoke a cigar because I wouldn't be able to play. Sport.
At picnics we have pick up games of softball. Girls and kids play. Cigar smoking is not only present, it's encouraged. Game.

Ya gotta argue apples to apples, man. If ya jump all over the place I could make an argument for cake baking and putting on a robe being a sport. :lr

Wait mens softball? :r:r. Following is all in fun.
I am guessing you play and must take it fairly seriously. I will just say having played baseball through high school. I could definitely smoke a cigar playing mens softball. I have had a few run ins with softball guy at work. If you think slow pitch softball played by men is a sport then golf should qualify. Golf definitely requires more skill then slow pitch softball.

Bruins Fan

01-19-2013, 05:32 PM

Well my hold out lasted to the national anthem.:D

Ahbroody

01-19-2013, 07:13 PM

Yeah I hear you. I was not going to get the package. My oldest boy wanted to watch some games. I folded. I wont go to any games. Errrrrrrrrr I dont think I will.

Fredo456

01-19-2013, 08:26 PM

Smoked a Padron 1926 for the season opener. This cigar, that I had for the first time, was truly awesome. One of the best I ever had.

The game, however, was another story. The players were obviously very rusty. Penalties and puck fumbling were omnipresent during the first two periods, and it didn't get much better in the third. Habs lost 2-1 to the Leafs. Only 47 to go.

Bruins Fan

01-19-2013, 08:34 PM

Bruins-Rangers good game, B's looked fast and sharp,and of course physical.

ChicagoWhiteSox

01-19-2013, 09:35 PM

Great first day:)

ToastedFoot

01-19-2013, 09:50 PM

Malkin still looks like twice the player Crosby is, and yes i'm a Pittsburgh'er, Suter makes a huge addition on face offs, we might be in the running this year, Crosby couldn't possibly pull his vagina in 48 games.......could he ??????

cobra03

01-19-2013, 10:03 PM

Was on my way into work tonight listening to ESPN radio and they had a sports update in between segments. Absolutly no NHL scores or even the slightest mention of hockey at all. Good to see nothings changed.

ChicagoWhiteSox

01-19-2013, 10:05 PM

BMack

01-19-2013, 10:08 PM

Wait a minute. I will preface this by saying I have gotten into heated arguments about hockey being the most difficult sport to play given speed, skill, toughness required.

I have seen people play hockey drunk as hell, you could do pickup smoking a stogie, and I have seen couples playing together. While golf is not as physically demanding it is a specialized skill sport. No I dont play, but I think it is a sport as most every scrub cant go out and play effectively.

I would argue of all the sports football basketball and soccer involve the most basic of human skills running, throwing, kicking and catching. Children can do these things easily. Thats why they are thr most popular in my view. Anybody can go outside with a ball and play. Baseball requires more skill as does hockey and golf.

You can play hockey drunk as hell, and I have, but only after you have gained the ability to skate, puck handle and generally know how to play the game. ALL hockey skills are unnatural...almost all other sports have at least some natural variables, like running(compared to skating) for example. I've helped coach adults that were figure skaters learn to play hockey, they eliminated the variable of not having to learn how to skate...they still can't do anything with the puck. It takes years to be able to comfortably skate while controlling a puck at the end of a 60" long stick. I could go on but blah, blah, blah...That doesn't mean other sports aren't complex but hockey, in the depth of unnatural skills needed to play, is the most physically complex.

Anyway, LET'S GO LIGHTNING!

How many people here also play/coach ice hockey?