NHL '11 - '12 Thread

[Gophernut]

Adams - 1 game
Neal - 1 game
Asham - 4 games

Flyers - 0

And some really entertaining hockey tonight! The Panthers come back from a 3-0 deficit, Preds handle the Wings in a very good game and the Hawks and Yotes currently battling...with yet another suspension likely coming out of that game.

That hit on Hossa looked nasty. Torres will be gone for a while I bet.

[Ahbroody]

In my opinion and I am not a Hawks homer though they are one of the teams I cheer for when the Sharks are not playing them. That troll pos should not be allowed on the ice till sometime next season. This will be atleast his third suspension. He is one of the dirtiest players in the game.

[Eleven]

Pens should start making Tee Times now. And really start working on how to play Defense next year :)

[icehog3]

I am thoroughly disgusted with the NHL at the moment, officials missing obvious calls and making ridiculous ones. Torres should be gone for the postseason plus.

Even if the Hawks come back in their series versus the Coyotes, they will likely play the next round without Hossa. It was a sick feeling watching him stretchered from the rink.

[mithrilG60]

You mean sorta like the Canucks have been without Daniel Sedin since Keith head hunted him Tom? Not wishing harm on Hossa, or any other player, but what goes around comes around... especially in a league that seems hell bent on ensuring no form of meaningful penalties try and stop all these so called professionals from going out on the ice and intentionally trying to injure each other. There was a caller on the local sports radio show earlier this week that likened the current playoffs to the Hunger Games and I can't say I disagreed with him.

What the NHL is allowing happen right now, on all team and in all series, is seriously turning me off the brand of the game they're trying to sell. Unfortunately, TV viewership is up across the board but especially in the lucrative US market. Given that that's Bettman and the NHL's ultimate wet dream I can't imagine we'll see any serious attempt to curb this MMA come Hunger Games On Ice BS anytime soon :(

[Ahbroody]

I am thoroughly disgusted with the NHL at the moment, officials missing obvious calls and making ridiculous ones. Torres should be gone for the postseason plus.

Even if the Hawks come back in their series versus the Coyotes, they will likely play the next round without Hossa. It was a sick feeling watching him stretchered from the rink.

You know I hate Torres brother. That guys a scumbag and tries to hurt people. That play has really just stained the series. When a pos like Torres can injure one of the teams stars its ot a fair trade. As you said even if they move forward you have to wonder when or if Hossa can even return.

As to officiating I will say tonight I watched both the preds wings and hawks yotes. Both were poorly officiated. I am very glad the Preds won. To me the refs called a horrid game which helped the Wings so much. I have watched the waived off goal play multiple times and still cant figure out how they waived it off. How could he even argue intent to blow the whistle. Well thats what I am guessing he used. That was one of the worst decisions by a ref in these playoffs. That combined with the penalty imbalance 7 penalties to 3 and the 3-1 score is that much more impressive. The score was really 4-1. Hey Mike Howard is no Rinne. Not close. I said and will continue to say speed and Rinne is better appears will be the difference in this series.

[IBQTEE1]

The thing that bothers me the most the Torres just went back to the bench like oh well. I don't care how much you don't like someone you still pay that player some respect. The officials once again sucked this game. I am waiting to see what happens Torres.

Rumor has it that is in on the golf course her the northern suburbs. I can we all go kick his arse!!

[BigAsh]

Adams - 1 game
Neal - 1 game
Asham - 4 games

Flyers - 0


Gotta love the Philly Daily News....:r

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll369/kdos66/041712_crosby.jpg

[IBQTEE1]

CHICAGO (AP) Phoenix Coyotes forward Raffi Torres was suspended indefinitely Wednesday for a hit that knocked Chicago's Marian Hossa out of Game 3 in the teams' opening-round playoff series.

Torres faces a Friday hearing with NHL officials in New York. The hearing was planned for Wednesday but was deferred at the request of the player and NHL Players' Association.

Very nice!!!

[357]

First, WFT happened here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_ardFsXSX8 ?????

Frustrating. Lidstrom, White, Hudler, AND Howard all follow Erat and overcommit. My 4 yr old daughter could have slammed home Klein's goal.

As to officiating I will say tonight I watched both the preds wings and hawks yotes. Both were poorly officiated. I am very glad the Preds won. To me the refs called a horrid game which helped the Wings so much. I have watched the waived off goal play multiple times and still cant figure out how they waived it off. How could he even argue intent to blow the whistle. Well thats what I am guessing he used. That was one of the worst decisions by a ref in these playoffs. That combined with the penalty imbalance 7 penalties to 3 and the 3-1 score is that much more impressive. The score was really 4-1. Hey Mike Howard is no Rinne. Not close. I said and will continue to say speed and Rinne is better appears will be the difference in this series.



It killed me to watch that game. The Wings dominated the entire game except for a handful of mental lapses like the one above. Wings had 2.5 times the number of shots and scoring chances but can't score. The Preds capitalized on every mistake. I think Mike's right about Rinne. Last night Howard played poorly. Rinne has been the difference. The disallowed goal should have counted, amazing break the Wings couldn't take advantage of.

Rinne is definitely in the Wings head. They'll have to bomb him for 4-5 goals in game 5 to break through that mental block and have any chance to come back in this series. It won't happen, but that's the only scenario I can see them winning. I do feel the refs weren't perfect but the reason for the major penalty discrepancy was the fact the Wings were so aggressive. They held the puck in the Preds zone so much the Preds ended up committing more penalties out of desparation.

I read this article that kind of makes the same point about the team carrying the play not winning: The Red Wings, at least, will take Wednesday off before regrouping and hoping to rally from a 3-1 deficit for the second time in two seasons, against perhaps the most perplexing playoff goalie opponent since Dwayne Roloson back in 2006 in one Pekka Rinne....

Simply put, if it wasn’t for the 6-foot-5 Rinne’s dazzling performance in goal, the series would almost surely be evened up at two games apiece.

“We were on our heels way too much and it definitely showed in the shot total,” said Klein, whose team was outshot by a 41-17 margin after being outshot 43-22 in Game 3 on Sunday. “I mean, I think we only had 10 shots after two periods and you’re not going to win too many times [that way] without a goalie like [Rinne]. He did it all tonight. Thank goodness we have him.” http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/tmr/comments/red_wings-predators_game_4_wrap-up_baffling_loss_leaves_wings_with_a_hercul/


And as I've said It was the third game in a row that the team with more scoring chances didn’t get the victory.http://detroitsportszone.wordpress.com/

And This series has been bizarre! It seems that the team that has had the more quality scoring chances has lost. In games one, three and four Detroit has outshot Nashville 121-65 and yet the Wings have lost all three of the games. In game 2, Nashville outshot Detroit 26-17 and the Wings were victorious. Again, it’s been very bizarre. But, I’m not judging the series by shots alone, oh no, instead I’m judging the series by who the more dangerous teams have been and it just so happens that the team with the most shots have been the most threatening. http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2012/04/18/why-the-wings-can-still-win-this-series/

I'm not trying to argue my point but just shine the light from a different perspective.

:bh

[357]

Watched the video. Shanahan is high. Shaw has no history. I am so mad I can hardly see straight.

Off to the city shortly, seeing if I can find a "F*** Shanahan" shirt to wear to the game.

I'll take a 2XLT if you see one.

[Ahbroody]

You mean sorta like the Canucks have been without Daniel Sedin since Keith head hunted him Tom? Not wishing harm on Hossa, or any other player, but what goes around comes around... especially in a league that seems hell bent on ensuring no form of meaningful penalties try and stop all these so called professionals from going out on the ice and intentionally trying to injure each other. There was a caller on the local sports radio show earlier this week that likened the current playoffs to the Hunger Games and I can't say I disagreed with him.

What the NHL is allowing happen right now, on all team and in all series, is seriously turning me off the brand of the game they're trying to sell. Unfortunately, TV viewership is up across the board but especially in the lucrative US market. Given that that's Bettman and the NHL's ultimate wet dream I can't imagine we'll see any serious attempt to curb this MMA come Hunger Games On Ice BS anytime soon :(

Some much $hit in this post. Got a little anti america note implying the game is being allowed to become more violent for us violent US folks eh Geoff. Go ahead and keep that crap out of this thread.
You mean when Keith returned the headshot he was given by Danielle in the same game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3r9769DFOQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sedin hit him late and targeted the head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG6SgT58AW4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Keith decided to return the headshot.

Dont come in here telling half the story and posting the NHL is turning the league in to the hunger games a movie where killing is the goal to sell the game to the US market. Your post is crap. Your team is getting rolled. Will your city burn again this year? Honestly man what a crap post. I would like to write some more things, but I wont go to that level. Sure you will try to spin your post, but its garbage.

I see some people come in here and make excusses for their team getting beat. Its funny.

[icehog3]

You mean sorta like the Canucks have been without Daniel Sedin since Keith head hunted him Tom? Not wishing harm on Hossa, or any other player, but what goes around comes around... (

I never tried to defend Keith's hit, I said it was suspendable from the start. As Mike implied, Daniel Sedin should have been suspended as well, but I certainly take no pleasure from seeing Sedin out, and the Canucks having an excuse for possibly being swept. A poor decision/reaction from Keith, but comparing Keith andf Torres? Gimmie a break, Torres has made a career of trying to end other players' careers. POS, plain and simple. :2

[mithrilG60]

CHICAGO (AP) Phoenix Coyotes forward Raffi Torres was suspended indefinitely Wednesday for a hit that knocked Chicago's Marian Hossa out of Game 3 in the teams' opening-round playoff series.

Torres faces a Friday hearing with NHL officials in New York. The hearing was planned for Wednesday but was deferred at the request of the player and NHL Players' Association.

Very nice!!!

I would expect (and hope) that he's used as an example to try and put an end to the BS in this year's post-season and given the rest of the playoffs with perhaps a few games into 2012-13 regular series. Short of Matt Cooke deciding to take someone's head off with his elbow this evening, Torres is just about the lowest hanging fruit possible that the league can tee up for Shannahan.

Ultimately however until the teams start taking this attitude of horrified shock and outrage when it's their own player that's given the hit nothing will change. The Blackhawks organization and fans are justifiably hopping mad over the Torres hit on Hossa, calling for his blood, etc, etc. Yet Keith's elbow on Sedin was arguably both worst and even less of a hockey play, but where was the outrage then from the Blackhawks? All I heard were the crickets disturbed when as they circled the wagon to try and protect Keith. While I certainly understand that reaction, nothing will ever change as long as the outrage exists right up until it's your own player that's the offender.

[icehog3]

I would expect (and hope) that he's used as an example to try and put an end to the BS in this year's post-season and given the rest of the playoffs with perhaps a few games into 2012-13 regular series. Short of Matt Cooke deciding to take someone's head off with his elbow this evening, Torres is just about the lowest hanging fruit possible that the league can tee up for Shannahan.

Ultimately however until the teams start taking this attitude of horrified shock and outrage when it's their own player that's given the hit nothing will change. The Blackhawks organization and fans are justifiably hopping mad over the Torres hit on Hossa, calling for his blood, etc, etc. Yet Keith's elbow on Sedin was arguably both worst and even less of a hockey play, but where was the outrage then from the Blackhawks? All I heard were the crickets disturbed when as they circled the wagon to try and protect Keith. While I certainly understand that reaction, nothing will ever change as long as the outrage exists right up until it's your own player that's the offender.

You talk about the Hawks being "homers", but calling Keith's elbow worse? We can just agree to disagree.

Torres' wasn't a reaction, it's his M.O. :2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nomG4dU-mTk&feature=fvst

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpd0m-3iqi8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mMxKNul04

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIpwq9s-Yhs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRzzZ8GUkig

Shall I go on?

[mithrilG60]

This has nothing to do with being a homer or not, I use Sedin-Keith as an example simply because it's in everyone's mind locally. Pick whatever example you want; Toews, Crobsy, Hossa, Sedin, etc. My point is the same with all of them, BS like ALL of those injuries exist because the NHL has created a culture of enabling and head hiding because the teams scream blue bloody murder when it's their own player lying on the ice but then try their hardest to prevaricate and protect when the offender is their guy. If the NHL wants to actually change the culture then Phoenix has to be willing to condemn Torres as much as Chicago, Chicago condemn Keith as much as Vancouver, etc etc.

This mentality of it's the most evil thing ever until it's our guy that's going to be suspended at which point is was <insert generic overused weak pathetic excuse here> is a large part of the problem... and it exists on every single team in the league.

[icehog3]

Pens live to fight another day.

Rangers - Senators series changes dramatically either way with the next goal.

[Gophernut]

Two big games so far tonight. And color me surprised that Luongo is sitting again.

[Gophernut]

This mentality of it's the most evil thing ever until it's our guy that's going to be suspended at which point is was <insert generic overused weak pathetic excuse here> is a large part of the problem... and it exists on every single team in the league.

Not just on every team in this league, but every league period. I think it's called being a fan. I know when a player on an opposing team gets in trouble with the law, say a DWI, I think that the player should be thrown in jail and have the key thrown away. If it's a player of a team that I am a fan of, it's a lapse in judgement, and I'm sure he feels bad, and the bad publicity is punishment enough. Of course all of this is merely my opinion.

[mithrilG60]

Not surprised Luongo's sitting, Schneider's numbers are better and the team seems to play better in from of him. However barring some unforseen miracluous discovery of desire I'll bet this is Schneider's last game as a Canuck. Big changes coming in the off-season in Vancouver I think.

[icehog3]

Not surprised Luongo's sitting, Schneider's numbers are better and the team seems to play better in from of him. However barring some unforseen miracluous discovery of desire I'll bet this is Schneider's last game as a Canuck. Big changes coming in the off-season in Vancouver I think.

Looks like Schneider gets one more. ;)

Hero of the Day (mine, anyway): Craig Anderson. :)

[mithrilG60]

Looks like Schneider gets one more. ;)

Ya, I really didn't see that coming. Figured they were done tonight for sure. Amazing what a difference getting Sedin back into the lineup made, makes you almost believe in the image that was floating about today:

http://www.globaltvbc.com/uploadedImages/Global_BC/Photos/Daniel-Sedin-I-got-this.JPG

I don't see the Canucks losing 3 in a row at home, nor do I see them becoming the 4th team to recover from 0-3 in a series. Kings in 6.

Hero of the Day (mine, anyway): Craig Anderson. :)

Ya, he stood on his head for sure.

[yourchoice]

Flyers got shellacked last night. Glad they're still up 3-1! I completely understand why the refs called the game the way they did last night, but I hope they let them play a little bit more tomorrow night.

[Ahbroody]

Lets go Sharks you can do it :r
Kind of like wishing the sun wont rise.

[icehog3]

Hawks may put Saad in the line-up tonight. Pretty much a "must win" for them too.

[icehog3]

Pretty awesome stuff.

http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2012/04/18/the-six-best-ryan-kesler-tumbleweed-gifs/

[Ahbroody]

Well when your on a team with floppier what do you expect. I bet they compare dives and give each other scores.

[icehog3]

Coach Q for the Blackhawks fined $10,000 for criticizing the officials in Tuesday's game.

He should have bounced the referee's head off the glass, would have saved himself $7500.

[Yojimbo]

Chicago/Phoenix game has been great tonite.

[E.J.]

Another OT.... What a great series....

[Gophernut]

And yet another OT goal that could have been stopped.

[Ahbroody]

Noooooooooooooooooo!
This is crap. Sharks Hawks both looking like firstbround eliminations. Who to cheer for.
Fack!

[icehog3]

I hope Hawks management realizes that this may be a yearly occurence if they don't sign a world class goalie.

[E.J.]

Strangely, with the Avs out....I find myself cheering for a few teams to lose, more than having investment in an actual winner of LSC.

[E.J.]

Should have looked at the cc forum more & jumped in on Tom's NHL playoff pool to get assigned a team to ride to the cup....

[icehog3]

E.J., if I would have drawn the Coyotes in the pool, I would still be rooting for the Hawks, and I know you would have done the same with the Avs,

If the Hawks are eliminated this round, my first love will be whoever is playing Phoenix. ;)

Unless it was Vancouver. :r

[icehog3]

All 4 Western series are 3-1. Unfortunately, only one of the 4 teams I am rooting for is leading, the Kings.

Might end up rooting for the East in the Finals for a second straight season.

[Ahbroody]

All 4 Western series are 3-1. Unfortunately, only one of the 4 teams I am rooting for is leading, the Kings.

Might end up rooting for the East in the Finals for a second straight season.

I'm with you. Horrible night. I guess I can pull for the Kings. This year is a bust it seems. Time to start watching aussie rules football and hoping the Giants can get to the world series again. Crap night.

[Eleven]

All 4 Western series are 3-1. Unfortunately, only one of the 4 teams I am rooting for is leading, the Kings.

Might end up rooting for the East in the Finals for a second straight season.

I was kinda thinking the same thing if the Pens get knocked out, I'll be cheering for one of the West teams to take the cup this year! (Pens don't have what it takes this year even if they manage to get out of the 1st round).

Actually I would be OK with anyone winning the cup except the Wings and the Flyers.

My realistic pick for the finals is St Louis and New York.

[357]

Coach Q for the Blackhawks fined $10,000 for criticizing the officials in Tuesday's game.

He should have bounced the referee's head off the glass, would have saved himself $7500.

:r :D

[mithrilG60]

I hope Hawks management realizes that this may be a yearly occurence if they don't sign a world class goalie.

Vancouver may be looking for someone to eat Luongo's contract ;)

[icehog3]

Vancouver may be looking for someone to eat Luongo's contract ;)

You thought the riots in Vancouver were bad? :r

[mosesbotbol]

Vancouver may be looking for someone to eat Luongo's contract ;)

He should go back to Montreal, at least if they lose, they have thier native son in goal.

[mithrilG60]

He should go back to Montreal, at least if they lose, they have thier native son in goal.

Montreal has Price, goaltending is not their problem. The last thing Luongo needs is an even higher pressure market to play in. That's part of his problem in Vancouver, this market expects the team to win (and/or has elevated expectations because the team places higher normal due to the weakness of the NWD) and that puts a lot of pressure on the players. Doubly so in Luongo's case since he was brought in as the saviour to the Canucks problems and given a massive contract.

Realistically there are only a couple teams in the league that might feasibly take Luongo; Toronto, Edmonton, Chicago, New Jersey and Florida. Toronto is out because of the hate between Burke and Gillis, plus Toronto is high stress just like Montreal and Vancouver. Edmonton's out because his Floridian wife apparently hates "winter" in Vancouver, why would Luongo ever agree to move to Edmonton? Chicago is likely a no go because I just can't see the team or fans embracing him given the years of rivalry between the Canucks and Hawks. Really that leaves New Jersey and Florida. Luongo's wife is from Florida, all her family lives there, that's were he lives during the off-season and by all accounts it's home to him in every sense. My guess is, if Schneider saves the Canucks season and Luongo requests a trade to prevent becoming full-time #2 it will be to Florida.

That said, the Canucks might also find the cap room to keep them both. They make a great tandem, probably the best in the NHL, and have a very good working and personal relationship. Luongo might be willing to accept a 50/50 starting split to stay on a contender team for another couple seasons.... if he goes to back to Florida he's effectively resigning himself to never seeing his name on the Stanley Cup. Hell, staying in Vancouver is probably the same but at least there's a little more hope there :r

[icehog3]

I think Tampa Bay might be willing to look at Luongo.

[Eleven]

I think Tampa Bay might be willing to look at Luongo.

LOL, back to Florida with you!

[Bigwaved]

25 games for the cheap shot on Hossa

[Ahbroody]

Well the Hawks may extend their series tonight, but I think the Sharks are done.
The win in game one was OT against Halak since its been 3 games of being outplayed.
funny all three series Wings, Sharks and Yotes its been Goalies dominating. The Wings and Sharks especially your seeing good teams shut down by great goalies and young fast players.

Lets go Hawks Sharks.

And
Go Kings Go!
Go Kings Go!
Go Kings Go!

Holtby for President!

[Eleven]

25 games for the cheap shot on Hossa


:O

[icehog3]

Lets go Hawks Sharks.

And
Go Kings Go!
Go Kings Go!
Go Kings Go!

Holtby for President!

:tu

1-0 Caps.

25 games for the cheap shot on Hossa

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. :2

[mithrilG60]

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. :2

Pretty much. Let's hope Shannahan leaves this as a precedent instead of just dropping back to meaningless 1 and 2 game suspensions or $2500 fines again. Of course I'm not holding my breath...

Caps can eliminate Boston at home tomorrow :D :noon Couldn't care less about the Caps, but I'm going to be rooting for them tomorrow since nothing would make me happier than seeing that little POS Marchand on the golf course.

[icehog3]

nothing would make me happier than seeing that little POS Marchand on the golf course.

Watch out, he might low-bridge you when you are teeing off. ;)

[mithrilG60]

Lol, I'm not a ginger swede.... I'd hit back ;) I just can't stand players that are dirty for the sake of being dirty. I especially can't stand little ahit disturbers that only do it because they know they've got someone like Charra to hide behind after the fact. As much as I hate Boston as an organization there's very few of their players that I dislike as individuals but Marchand is one.

[icehog3]

I know how that can be. I don't hate any of the Canucks as indviduals with the exception of Burrows, Sedin, Lapierre, Burrows, Bieksa, Sedin, Luongo, Raymond, Burrows, Kesler, Burrows and Burrows. ;)

Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

[mithrilG60]

Meh, I've hated Boston ever since I can remember. All part and parcel of being a life long Habs fan.

[MurphysLaw]

I know how that can be. I don't hate any of the Canucks as indviduals with the exception of Burrows, Sedin, Lapierre, Burrows, Bieksa, Sedin, Luongo, Raymond, Burrows, Kesler, Burrows and Burrows. ;)

Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/000/681/what-you-did-there-i-see-it.thumbnail.jpg

I'm a happy camper tonight, hope the Cats have another game like that and can put the Devils away.

[Bruins Fan]

Meh, I've hated Boston ever since I can remember. All part and parcel of being a life long Habs fan.

And as Boston fans, we think Habs fans are lower then the parasites that eat whale **** you can toss Vancouver in there to.

[icehog3]

Meh, I've hated Boston ever since I can remember. All part and parcel of being a life long Habs fan.

Those rivalries can bring on the hate, for sure.

Big difference between players you "hate" but would love to see on your team. Dino Ciccarelli was always one of the former as a Blackhawks fan. Or the way Hawks fans embraced Bob Probert when he came to Chicago.

Guys who are the latter (truly hated) by me over the years include Dion Phaneuf, Claude Lemiuex, Basil McRae, Shane Churla and Roberto Luongo.

[taltos]

And as Boston fans, we think Habs fans are lower then the parasites that eat whale **** you can toss Vancouver in there to.I wonder how one goes about getting the match and gasoline franchise after Vancouver gets knocked out again.:D

[Ahbroody]

Ooooo he gone!
Sharks done. Never really in this from the start and it looked like it.

Congrats to any Blues fans. Clearly the better team. In 9 gsmes against the Blues this year the Sharks won 1. Hope they do a overhaul on this team. Come on Stuart we need you. Wish they had let. Marleau go in the offseason.

Congrats to the Blues.

[icehog3]

1-0 Yotes. :(

[icehog3]

5 games, 5 overtimes.

My heart can't take much more.

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Yotes1A.jpg

[mithrilG60]

And as Boston fans, we think Habs fans are lower then the parasites that eat whale **** you can toss Vancouver in there to.

That's fine, we Montreal fans have one response: 24 - 5... we're still winning ;)

[icehog3]

That's fine, we Montreal fans have one response: 24 - 5... we're still winning ;)

But what have you done for me lately? ;)

[mithrilG60]

But what have you done for me lately? ;)

Nothing :(

[Bruins Fan]

That's fine, we Montreal fans have one response: 24 - 5... we're still winning ;)

You can throw at least 20 of them out the window. The game changed when Montreal did not have exclusive rights to every French Canadian.Visitors don't get calls in the Forum, playing with a stacked deck I say.

[darkleeroy]

I've heard way too much Nickleback today.

[Eleven]

I've heard way too much Nickleback today.

Amen.


P.S. See you next year Pens. You didn't deserve to win, and I hope whoever faces Philly next sweeps them, as long as it isn't the Caps.

:)

[icehog3]

Bruins looking to go back to Beantown. 3-2 with 7 minutes left.

[icehog3]

Bruins looking to go back to Beantown. 3-2 with 7 minutes left.

Ovechkin!

[Gophernut]

Ovechkin!

Faceoff wins are huge!

[icehog3]

And Ovechkin hits the crossbar....Alex wants to stay in DC.

[Bruins Fan]

Segs!!!!!
I don't know how many posts and crossbars the B's have hit this series?
Caps will get beaten soundly in Boston -(P

[kugie]

Great to see Seguin get on the board
Game seven Can't wait :tu

[mithrilG60]

The game changed when Montreal did not have exclusive rights to every French Canadian.Visitors don't get calls in the Forum, playing with a stacked deck I say.

Great theory, too bad the myth that there was ever territorial rights to draft French Canadian players is just that.. a myth. Every team complains about a lack of calls, ultimately it's just excuses and whining. Montreal's dominance was ended by league expansion diluting the player talent pool amongst a larger number of teams, nothing more.

[yourchoice]

What a great series, game and first shift by Giroux! Several Flyers had good numbers in this crazy series, but his and Couturier's play really stood out to me.

Hopefully this little bit of time off will get Grossmann back healthy and allow Bryz heal-up if his bone chip is bothering him.

http://media.philly.com/images/042212-claude-giroux-400.jpg

[Ahbroody]

Great theory, too bad the myth that there was ever territorial rights to draft French Canadian players is just that.. a myth. Every team complains about a lack of calls, ultimately it's just excuses and whining. Montreal's dominance was ended by league expansion diluting the player talent pool amongst a larger number of teams, nothing more.

Rare moment when I would help John, but as usual you ignore facts.

Too bad facts get in the way of your version of history. Lets just take one of the Habs greatest who helped them win some of those cups.
http://www.hockeysiteincanada.com/JeanBeliveau.shtml
So exactly how was someone else going to sign him?

As for the calls I will go with Grapes who actually has NHL experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uETR4YOTFI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Kind of funny he discussed how it used to work in Montreal jist a few days ago. You can fast forward to the two minute mark. Obviously he must be lying because hes stating something many others have said in the past.

[Ahbroody]

Are there any fires yet?

Can we get some eyes on the ground?

[icehog3]

Heroes of the Day:

Mike Richardson
Jared Stoll
Dan Hamhuis (for the giveaway in OT)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Golf-Canucks.jpg

[Bruins Fan]

[QUOTE=Ahbroody;1622674]Rare moment when I would help John, but as usual you ignore facts.

:r:D

[icehog3]

Heading down to the United Center in a few hours....Let's Go Hawks!

[Bigwaved]

Per usual, Shanahan makes **** up as he goes. Neil gets to head hunt without any repercussions. He is trying to make the league a joke. He is well on his way. If Neil leave a dental impression of his in the boards tonight, I will not send any flowers.

[Ahbroody]

Heading down to the United Center in a few hours....Let's Go Hawks!

Go Hawks!

May actually start cheering for the Blues. Having known Scott Nichol a little and his kids he is a good guy.

[Bruins Fan]

Jack will tell you what we think of Montreal :r
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=m7lgL3jm6H8

[icehog3]

Go Hawks!

May actually start cheering for the Blues. Having known Scott Nichol a little and his kids he is a good guy.

That's why I cheer for Ottawa in the East, Mike, Craig Anderson is a friend and former teammate. Sorry Davey-Boy. ;s

Heading to the U.C. shortly. Let's Go Blackhawks!

[mithrilG60]

Rare moment when I would help John, but as usual you ignore facts.

Facts only count when they are actual facts ;)


Too bad facts get in the way of your version of history. Lets just take one of the Habs greatest who helped them win some of those cups.
http://www.hockeysiteincanada.com/JeanBeliveau.shtml
So exactly how was someone else going to sign him?

Wrong. Beliveau's father refused to sign a C-Form, but Beliveau himself did sign a B-Form which gave the Habs rights to his services if he ever decided to play at the pro level. He actually called up twice and played several games for the Canadien's well before his QSHL team was bought out by the Habs, but wasn't sold on the idea of becoming a pro hockey player as a career choice. The buyout occurred to force him to either choose a career in pro hockey or no hockey. Beliveau signed that initial contract with the Habs of his own choice, they forced his hand to make a choice about a pro career and he went on to become one of the greats of the game.

No other team had the right to sign him because HE had already signed the equivalent of a modern day entry-level contract with Montreal. Given that signing the B-Form for his choice this is not even close to being the same thing as the Canadiens having automatic rights to all french players.

Prior to the existence of the amateur draft the Canadiens were given the right to protect 2 Quebec born players per year, that had not already signed a C form with another NHL team. However given that almost all decent prospects were invariably already under C-Form with one of the 6 teams it was really rather irrelevant. The vast majority of the 20 or 30 odd players thus protected never saw a single NHL game except from the stands. Every NHL team had first rights to players within a 50 mile radius of it's rink (ie. basically first rights to it's home city), all other players were up for grabs by ANY team found them and signed them to C-Forms first. The claim that the Habs had exclusive claim to all French Canadian/Quebec players is and always has been BS. The reality is most French Canadian born players wanted to play on the Habs... there's a big difference between the 2 and it hardly equals an unfair playing field.


As for the calls I will go with Grapes who actually has NHL experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uETR4YOTFI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Kind of funny he discussed how it used to work in Montreal jist a few days ago. You can fast forward to the two minute mark. Obviously he must be lying because hes stating something many others have said in the past.

I'm sure you'll pardon me if I don't even bother watching that. Using Don Cherry as a reference to bolster your support for anything other than bad suits, the Supreme and Enduring Greatest of All Things Bruins (tm) or how Scott Stevens-style hockey is the only kind that matters automatically degrades your point.

[mithrilG60]

Congrats to LA, that happened 1 game earlier than I expected but it's still no shocker that the Canucks are heading home for an off-season of changes and reflection.

[gpugliese]

Thank goodness the Rangers were up by two, because if that "goal" had tied or won the game ... that would have been interesting.

Too bad they can't review pitchforking the goalie out of the crease.

[Gophernut]

I guess the Coyotes might just be for real. Smith had a hell of a series.

[icehog3]

The Coyotes have a world-class goaltender, and the Hawks have a mediocre one at best. I fear he will be back bewteen the pipes next season though.

I will still watch all the NHL playoffs as I love hockey, but it won't be the same for me.

[Bigwaved]

What a f'n joke of a goal and replay call. Why have rules or the replay if you can't get the obvious crap correct. It was nice to see Neil kissing the ice after a solid shoulder to his mug in the 3rd. WTG, Del Zotto. Thank goodness the Rangers were up by two, because if that "goal" had tied or won the game ... that would have been interesting.

Too bad they can't review pitchforking the goalie out of the crease.

[Eleven]

The West is upside down!

And the East can end up that way too. Hockey is a fickle b*tch :)

[SteelCityBoy]

The Coyotes have a world-class goaltender, and the Hawks have a mediocre one at best. I fear he will be back bewteen the pipes next season though.

I will still watch all the NHL playoffs as I love hockey, but it won't be the same for me.

I am with you Tom. Bryzgolov was hardly world-class, but he did enough to win game 6 and eliminate my beloved Pens. I don't know how much further the Flyers will go if he doesn't button it up. We have no room to talk though the way that Fluery played. Even if we managed the crazy comeback I wouldn't have had much faith in going deeper with his play along with the play of our defense. Oh well, I'll still watch because I too love hockey.

Guess I'm pulling for the Panthers now...the team that no one seems to care about! :D

[icehog3]

I am with you Tom. Bryzgolov was hardly world-class, but he did enough to win game 6 and eliminate my beloved Pens. I don't know how much further the Flyers will go if he doesn't button it up. We have no room to talk though the way that Fluery played. Even if we managed the crazy comeback I wouldn't have had much faith in going deeper with his play along with the play of our defense. Oh well, I'll still watch because I too love hockey.

Guess I'm pulling for the Panthers now...the team that no one seems to care about! :D

Bryzgolov won't get the Flyers a Cup if he plays the way he played against Pittsburgh, teams are sure to tighten up against the Flyers' potent offense.

I am rooting for the #8 seeds now, though I have little hope of either making the Finals. Rooting for the Kings because I don't care for the Blues or Preds, and the Yotes knocked my Hawks out of the playoffs.

Rooting for the Sens because Craig Anderson is a friend and ex-teammate.

[MurphysLaw]

Guess I'm pulling for the Panthers now...the team that no one seems to care about! :D

Hey now, there are a couple of us that care about the Panthers :D

[icehog3]

Interesting to note that if the Capitals beat the Bruins tomorrow night, the last 4 Stanley Cup Champions (Boston, Chicago, Pittsburgh and Detroit) will all have been eliminated in the 1st round. Welcome to the NHL in the salary cap era.

[SteelCityBoy]

Hey now, there are a couple of us that care about the Panthers :D

Whoops! I still remember when they beat us back in the mid 90's in the playoffs....all those dang rats that would be thrown on the ice and take forever to clean up!

We'll see, they have me pulling for them! :D

Don't like the Rangers, Flyers, or Devils...don't want to see Boston or Washington out of the east so yep....Go Panthers!

[icehog3]

Don't like the Rangers, Flyers, or Devils...don't want to see Boston or Washington out of the east so yep....Go Panthers!

Don't count the Sens out yet, anything can happen in a Game 7. ;)

[MurphysLaw]

Speaking of the rats, the NHL has now banned the team from selling them at the games
link (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/panthers/rats-nhl-tells-florida-panthers-to-stop-selling-2321078.html)

[yourchoice]

Bryzgolov won't get the Flyers a Cup if he plays the way he played against Pittsburgh, teams are sure to tighten up against the Flyers' potent offense.

No doubt about that, but Bryz didn't play nearly as well as he did the month before his injury. I know the team isn't saying he's injured, but I would have to think (HOPE) that he was still feeling the effects of his bone chip, and this week of rest can do nothing but help.

Rooting for the Sens because Craig Anderson is a friend and ex-teammate.

That's awesome Tom! I didn't realize you played at that high of a level!

[icehog3]

That's awesome Tom! I didn't realize you played at that high of a level!

I didn't, Joel....Craig played at that low of a level as his brother is a defenseman on my team. Craig played defense for us when he was between the Panthers and the Avalanche...him playing goalie in our league would have been a crime! :lr

[icehog3]

Three Game 7's in the next 2 days...I love playoff hockey!

Rooting for the Capitals, Sens and Panthers. Don't expect any of the three of them to win, though. :lr

[taltos]

Thanks Tom after I rooted for the Hawks all season.:r:r

[icehog3]

Thanks Tom after I rooted for the Hawks all season.:r:r

I won't be heartbroken if the Caps lose, Paul....I just wanted the Bruins to wait until it could be a Hawks-Bruins Finals. :)

[icehog3]

Took these photos of the new statues put up at the United Center to honor Stan Mikita and Bobby Hull:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/MIKITAHULL.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/MIKITAHULL1.jpg

[kugie]

Crap!
Hard Fought series, Congrats to the Caps!
No Dog in this Fight any more, but...
Go Caps, Blues, and Preds.

[icehog3]

Interesting to note that if the Capitals beat the Bruins tomorrow night, the last 4 Stanley Cup Champions (Boston, Chicago, Pittsburgh and Detroit) will all have been eliminated in the 1st round. Welcome to the NHL in the salary cap era.

Wow. Congrats to the Caps, and to the Bruins for their great run.

[Bruins Fan]

One and done I called that early in the season just no fire power.
Got to blow it up to many scrap heap guys on the team.

[taltos]

Speaking of the rats, the NHL has now banned the team from selling them at the games
link (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/panthers/rats-nhl-tells-florida-panthers-to-stop-selling-2321078.html)Can the Panthers give the rats away? Congrats to the Caps and their fans. It was a good series.

[Eleven]

I'm not a Caps fan in the least, but that Holtby is a stud!

[yourchoice]

I'm not a Caps fan in the least, but that Holtby is a stud!

You really think so? I thought he looked pretty shaky several times tonight.

[icehog3]

Can the Panthers give the rats away? Congrats to the Caps and their fans. It was a good series.

They are still selling them at their practice rink, which is just over a mile away. Lke $6 apiece, I wouldn't throw more than 1 per series. :r

You really think so? I thought he looked pretty shaky several times tonight.

A third string goalie who gives up 12 goals in 7 games to the 2nd best offense in the NHL regular season? I vote "stud" as well, at least in Round 1.

[Eleven]

The second round could be a whole different universe. I'll clarify and say First Round Stud for Holtby :)

[yourchoice]

A third string goalie who gives up 12 goals in 7 games to the 2nd best offense in the NHL regular season? I vote "stud" as well, at least in Round 1.

His stats were stellar, no doubt! I was really just commenting on last night's game, not the series as a whole. The Caps played a great game in front of him, but I thought Holtby looked vulnerable last night. :2

[Bruins Fan]

The kid is going to get lit up like a christmas tree.
Yes he made a lot of saves 40 foot shots, bad angles no one in front of the net to pick up rebounds
The B's were flat and generated no offense and didn't bring the physical or skating game.
Very disappointed with the effort and the power play.
Congratulations to the Caps and their fans they wanted it more. :tu

[MurphysLaw]

Can the Panthers give the rats away? Congrats to the Caps and their fans. It was a good series.

Not sure, but IF (big if) they make the finals, I'll buy some beforehand and bring them with me to a game. :tu

[Bigwaved]

Solid start at the Garden today. Kreider is going to be a player.

[Ahbroody]

Looking forward to tonights game.
The team that did everyone a favor in knocking out the Canucks vs the team in the west that seems to be emerging as the favorite.

[icehog3]

Go, Favor Team! :D

[icehog3]

Heroes of the Day...The Dustins.

Penner for an awesome patient assist on L.A's first goal, and a bank shot capper to end the night.

Brown for being a short-handed threat every penalty kill, and getting the short-handed assist on the game winner. :wnr

[yourchoice]

Flyers started out very sluggish yesterday, but were able to overcome it (again). Bryz was one of the few Flyers that showed up to play in the first period, and kept them in the game.

Giroux and Briere had big games again, and JVR really played well after limited action in the first series and missing much of the season. If he can approach his level of play of last year's playoffs he'll be another big offensive threat for the Flyers.

And great news that Meszaros is close to coming back. For much of the year, he was the Flyers best defenseman, IMHO.

[Ahbroody]

Saw the last 2 periods. Flyers carried the play. They are just better then Jersey. Cant see them loosing the series.

I am suprised the Yotes are having no issues with Preds. Will be interesting if its Kings v Yotes for West. The powers that be have to be loving the Yotes cup run. Los like they will make the conference finals. I love the salary cap era as a Wings hater. As I kept saying on here two years ago going to be a while till they see a cup again. Then again atleast they have seen it. Sharks chances dont look good any time soon either.

Poke poke.
This thread is dead because almost no one has a horse now.

[icehog3]

I still love playoff hockey, Mike, so I will be here until the bitter end. ;)

[Ahbroody]

I know you will brother and so will I.
I love the game regardless if I have a team in the hunt or not. The not is very common.

Lets go Caps, lets go Blues

[icehog3]

I know you will brother and so will I.
I love the game regardless if I have a team in the hunt or not. The not is very common.

Lets go Caps, lets go Blues

Let's go Caps, Let's go Kings! ;)

[Eleven]

Not really caring who comes out of the East now. I can see virtually any of those 4 making it to the finals though.

My money is on the Preds or Blues taking the cup now, although I would not be surprised with any outcome. What a crazy playoffs so far!

[Bigwaved]

Which Cap is your friend now?Let's go Caps, Let's go Kings! ;)

[Bigwaved]

Carlsen flopped like he was playing soccer...then the ref swallowed like Monica

[Bigwaved]

...and the ***** call is what decides the game. Sweet.

[icehog3]

Which Cap is your friend now?

I like the goalie...but I won't be heartbroken for me if the Caps lose the series, and I will be happy for you. :)

Plus, I will hopefully get to see the Kings knock off #1 and #2 in the West, followed up with #1 in the East. ;) :lr

[icehog3]

My Hero of the Day:

Dustin Brown again! 3 assists including his 4th short-handed point of the playoffs, and 14 penalty minutes.

The Kings are lookin' good!

[Bigwaved]

I like the goalie...but I won't be heartbroken for me if the Caps lose the series, and I will be happy for you. :)

I need some playoff success. It has been too long of a dry spell. :tu

What's wrong with my goalie? :confused:

The Caps bug me. Always have. :sl

[yourchoice]

I need some playoff success. It has been too long of a dry spell. :tu


You do? Talk to me about long! :fp2

[icehog3]

I need some playoff success. It has been too long of a dry spell. :tu

What's wrong with my goalie? :confused:

The Caps bug me. Always have. :sl

Henrik is one of the best goalies in the NHL. I meant I like the Cinderella story for Holtby, 3rd stringer tearing it up.

Thinking about it, I probably like more guys on the Blueshirts (Callahan, Del Zotto, Girardi), but they also have lots of guys who bug me (Zsa Zsa Gaborik, Snidely Boyle, etc). I guess it's just my nature to root for the underdog when I don't have a dog in the fight....but I will be happy to see the Rangers win the East, and then we can see a real Cinderella story, maybe, with East #1 Vs. West #8. ;)

[Ahbroody]

Damn Kings jumped all over the Blues last nignt. Just dont see the blues winning 4 of the the next 5 games against this Kings team. Given how they are dismantling the Blues it seems they will do the same to the Yotes if they face them.

Im pulling for Caps. My son likes Ovi and I like Holtby. How can you not like Holtby? While the call that resulted in the PP goal was questionable, you cant put a whole 60 minutes game outcome on one.penalty call. It ignores the other 58 minutes.

[E.J.]

I guess it's just my nature to root for the underdog when I don't have a dog in the fight....but I will be happy to see the Rangers win the East, and then we can see a real Cinderella story, maybe, with East #1 Vs. West #8. ;)

NY vs LA for LSC Final would be pretty cool IMO.... Though more so if LA wins...:tu

[icehog3]

NY vs LA for LSC Final would be pretty cool IMO.... Though more so if LA wins...:tu

I love that scenario as well, E.J..

[Bigwaved]

Henrik is one of the best goalies in the NHL. I meant I like the Cinderella story for Holtby, 3rd stringer tearing it up.

Thinking about it, I probably like more guys on the Blueshirts (Callahan, Del Zotto, Girardi), but they also have lots of guys who bug me (Zsa Zsa Gaborik, Snidely Boyle, etc). I guess it's just my nature to root for the underdog when I don't have a dog in the fight....but I will be happy to see the Rangers win the East, and then we can see a real Cinderella story, maybe, with East #1 Vs. West #8. ;)
Ignore Zsa Zsa. The players like the ones you mention and Staal, McDonagh, Hagelin, Richards, Kreider, etc., they play real hockey.

[Bigwaved]

Damn Kings jumped all over the Blues last nignt. Just dont see the blues winning 4 of the the next 5 games against this Kings team. Given how they are dismantling the Blues it seems they will do the same to the Yotes if they face them.

Im pulling for Caps. My son likes Ovi and I like Holtby. How can you not like Holtby? While the call that resulted in the PP goal was questionable, you cant put a whole 60 minutes game outcome on one.penalty call. It ignores the other 58 minutes.Yup. Nothing like putting a scoring challenged team behind late in the 3rd. Playing from behind is not how they win. This is exactly why they play fairly disciplined hockey. It was a tight game for all but the 4 seconds of that cheesy power play. Two shots ringing off the post and cross bars by Del Zotto away from erasing the little girl in the skirt dive and crap call that followed. On to the next game. I hope the soccer players stay in the locker room.

[icehog3]

Ignore Zsa Zsa. The players like the ones you mention and Staal, McDonagh, Hagelin, Richards, Kreider, etc., they play real hockey.

That Kreider kid is FAST. :eek:

[icehog3]

The Nashville Predators will be without Alexander Radulov and Andrei Kostitsyn for Game 3 on Wednesday.

The club suspended them for violating a team curfew Saturday night on the eve of Game 2.

Team first, but it sure hurts. ;)

[Bigwaved]

That Kreider kid is FAST. :eek:
And b i g

[Ahbroody]

Yup. Nothing like putting a scoring challenged team behind late in the 3rd. Playing from behind is not how they win. This is exactly why they play fairly disciplined hockey. It was a tight game for all but the 4 seconds of that cheesy power play. Two shots ringing off the post and cross bars by Del Zotto away from erasing the little girl in the skirt dive and crap call that followed. On to the next game. I hope the soccer players stay in the locker room.

lol the PPs were even. 3 each with the one offset. Sorry I just never can follow fans who blame a loss on a single play or call. Questionable calls are going to happen. It takes 60 minutes and when pps are even I cant see blaming the game on one call. If it works for you go with it.

Suprised the Devils exploded in the third. Just cant see them taking the series.

[Bigwaved]

lol the PPs were even. 3 each with the one offset. Sorry I just never can follow fans who blame a loss on a single play or call. Questionable calls are going to happen. It takes 60 minutes and when pps are even I cant see blaming the game on one call. If it works for you go with it.

Suprised the Devils exploded in the third. Just cant see them taking the series.
LOL, indeed. First, you are ASSumming I blame the whole f'n game on one power play. I am not. I can see how you might think that from reading my post typed out right after it took place. It had a bit of venom in it, but that is what it is. If you are above ever doing something like that, then good for you. What I DO contend is that the call changed complexion the game AT that point to the advantage of the Caps. The Rangers couldn't overcome the deficit and paid for it with a loss. Sure they could have avoided the hole they dug themselves before scoring the 2nd goal, but they did not. So, you can argue all you want that I am blaming the WHOLE loss on ONE shitty call, but I am not. Any other comments you want to make on my assessment of the crappy call and the direct result of it?

[icehog3]

Cool it, Men, were all hockey fans and we don't always agree, but let's keep it civil. :)

Nice win for the Devils, never know what's going to happen this playoff season. Hell, the Rangers could even take 2 iin DC. ;)

[Ahbroody]

As the other side of the pillow.

I love poking I got to stop. Without Mike and Geoff in here I gets bored. :r

Devils win really did suprise. Real intdrested to see how Preds game goes will Peka pitch a shutty

[Bigwaved]

As the other side of the pillow.

I love poking I got to stop. Without Mike and Geoff in here I gets bored. :r

Devils win really did suprise. Real intdrested to see how Preds game goes will Peka pitch a shutty
You seem to be confused how you come across to me in our exchange. I guess being a jackass just to be one is something we should all aspire to be (I am being honest, even if I come across like you). At least I know now that all you are attempting to do is argue for the sake of filling space up and irritate someone. Reach around and pat yourself on the back, sport.

[Ahbroody]

Tom you remember when Thorton trolled Sedin?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF6cb-Mtohg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Man that was funny.

Not going to get to watch either game tonight live. Kids got a ball game then I got to work swing. Will be using the radio feature on GCL listening to the drama unfold.

Lets go Caps
Lets go Yotes

Joel your quiet whats your take on lastnights 3rx period collapse.

[yourchoice]

Joel your quiet whats your take on lastnights 3rx period collapse.

I thought the missed slashing call on Clarkson's game winning goal cost the Flyers the game!!!!













;) j/k :r
(Sorry, BWD...couldn't resist. :))

The refs did miss a call there (Clarkson broke Coburn's stick in half with a slash), but their play cost them the game, for sure. After the first period the Flyers played like they were three goals up, not one. Giroux and Hartnell were more "unnoticable" last night than any other game in the playoffs. Give the Devils some credit there, but they...along with many others, just seemed flat. Bryz really did seem to play well, even in the third when he gave up three.

I'm not too concerned....yet. I think the Flyers will rebound and at least split in Newark. Hopefully, take both.

[icehog3]

The Preds did great this year before acquiring Radulov and Andrei K., so I look for them to get a win tonight.

I won't comment on the Rangers-Caps for fear of upsetting my friend Davey-Boy. :)

[Bigwaved]

I thought the missed slashing call on Clarkson's game winning goal cost the Flyers the game!!!!













;) j/k :r
(Sorry, BWD...couldn't resist. :))

The refs did miss a call there (Clarkson broke Coburn's stick in half with a slash), but their play cost them the game, for sure. After the first period the Flyers played like they were three goals up, not one. Giroux and Hartnell were more "unnoticable" last night than any other game in the playoffs. Give the Devils some credit there, but they...along with many others, just seemed flat. Bryz really did seem to play well, even in the third when he gave up three.

I'm not too concerned....yet. I think the Flyers will rebound and at least split in Newark. Hopefully, take both.
;)

[Bigwaved]

The Preds did great this year before acquiring Radulov and Andrei K., so I look for them to get a win tonight.

I won't comment on the Rangers-Caps for fear of upsetting my friend Davey-Boy. :)
Too late. I am hiring the other two Hanson brothers to take care of you. :D

[icehog3]

Too late. I am hiring the other two Hanson brothers to take care of you. :D

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/sutter2.jpg

I'm bringing 6 Sutters. ;)

[Bigwaved]

Solid.

[icehog3]

Awesome Rangers-Capitals game...that's playoff hockey!

[Eleven]

Can't believe the Rangers pulled that one out. They looked gassed from the 1st OT. Looked to me like the Caps dominated *most* of the OT's.

[Bigwaved]

I saw a lot of heavy legs from the middle of the 1st OT on. A lot of good cycling on both sides. The d-men were having a hard time grinding it out of their end. McDonagh logged over 53 minutes. That is a crazy amount. Ovetchkin's shot looked like the end of the game until it banged off the post. Both goalies had to stand on their head in this one.Can't believe the Rangers pulled that one out. They looked gassed from the 1st OT. Looked to me like the Caps dominated *most* of the OT's.

[Ahbroody]

Awesome Rangers-Capitals game...that's playoff hockey!

Listening on my phone in patrol car last night. Even the radio broadcast was very exciting. Would have loved to watch.

Nice to see Peka rebound. Funny though only checked that game between rangers caps periods.

[icehog3]

Listening on my phone in patrol car last night. Even the radio broadcast was very exciting. Would have loved to watch.

Nice to see Peka rebound. Funny though only checked that game between rangers caps periods.

I paid more attention to the East game too, even though I am more interested in the West....just seemed from early on that the Preds game would never be in doubt.

Now let's go Kings! :D

[Bax]

Soooooo bitter about last nights game. :sl

[Ahbroody]

it was a great game both teams deserved to win Tim, but that's playoff hockey.

[Bigwaved]

it was a great game both teams deserved to win Tim, but that's playoff hockey.
Agreed.

[yourchoice]

Frustrating game tonight (as a Flyers fan). Quite a few mistakes by some of the "youngins", Schenn and Gustafsson in particular. NJ is playing tough and really shining on the forecheck and cycle.

:c

[icehog3]

My Hero of the Day:

Mike Richards with the Gordie Howe Hat Trick.

Kings took out the West #1 seed, and now have the West #2 seed on the ropes. I love these guys!

[Eleven]

My Hero of the Day:

Mike Richards with the Gordie Howe Hat Trick.

Kings took out the West #1 seed, and now have the West #2 seed on the ropes. I love these guys!

As long as no one tries to resurrect the "Kelly Hrudey Mullet and Headband", I'll cheer them on :)

[drjammer]

My Hero of the Day:

Mike Richards with the Gordie Howe Hat Trick.

Kings took out the West #1 seed, and now have the West #2 seed on the ropes. I love these guys!
The Kings look very impressive! Of course I am a big fan of their coach as well :)

[icehog3]

Kings become the first #8 seed in NHL history to beat their conferences #1 and #2 seeds in the same season.

Coyotes are #3.... ;)

My Hero of the Day:

Dustin Brown again, 2 goals incuding the game winner.

[icehog3]

My Second Hero of the Day:

Martin Brodeur with the W on his 40th Birthday.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/brodeurcigar-1.jpg

[yourchoice]

My Second Hero of the Day:

Martin Brodeur with the W on his 40th Birthday.


:fu2 ;)

Well, at least he got a gift last night...not often you can play the puck outside the trapazoid and not get called for a delay of game. The NBCS guys completely screwed up the reason Giroux was so hot at the end of the second (that's what he was PO'd about).

The Flyers are getting completely outplayed by the Devils. Almost seems like there are six or seven Devils on the ice when the pucks are around either the offensive or defensive zone boards.

[icehog3]

If any team left has a shot at overcoming 3-1, Joel, it's Philly.

[Wanger]

My Hero of the Day:

Mike Richards with the Gordie Howe Hat Trick.

Kings took out the West #1 seed, and now have the West #2 seed on the ropes. I love these guys!

...and I remember hearing during a game this weekend that Stan Mikita actually had the most of those in his career, with 22. Howe only had 4, from what they said during the game.

[icehog3]

...and I remember hearing during a game this weekend that Stan Mikita actually had the most of those in his career, with 22. Howe only had 4, from what they said during the game.

I have heard most hockey experts say Howe only had one...but I did hear those commentators make the 2, 3 or 4 comment.

Mikita was my favorite player as a kid, so I was excited to hear that from them as well.

[yourchoice]

Giroux suspended for game 5. Can't say I'm shocked, but thought it was 50/50 if he'd get suspended or not.

I watched Shanahan's video. Like the NBCS guys, he misunderstood Giroux's frustration with the ref just before the hit. Giroux was even interviewed about it last night (locally). They're making it seem as though the hit was retaliatory for the (legal) check he received. It wasn't, he was ticked about Brodeur playing the puck outside the trapazoid.

Shanahan video link (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=630913)

[Ahbroody]

Not saying I dont believe Girouxs story, but even if true going back and headshoting a guy was not smart. I didnt think the Devils would take out Philly, but its looking that way. Now if the Caps can take out the Rangers that would make for a east final nobody expected.

Cant see Nashville taking the next three games so its a Pacific Division final. Going to have to go with LA. Also going to hard to pick against them for the cup. Dont think anyone in the east gas the same goaltending or fire power as LA.

[icehog3]

I hadn't thought much about Claude's hit since it happened, but I must admit I was suprised to hear he was suspended. I expect Philly to use it as motivation and win at home.

Mike, I like the idea of Dustin Brown being handed the hardware by Mister Bettman. :tu

[Bigwaved]

New life. New game. That is clutch.

[yourchoice]

Not saying I dont believe Girouxs story, but even if true going back and headshoting a guy was not smart.

No doubt he shouldn't have "headshot" Zubrus....but the league's video was edited (only showing the zoom-in on Giroux) and discussed by Shanahan, hinting that it was a retaliatory hit. I wish I could find the "non-zoomed-in" video but it is clear as day that Giroux was not PO'd by being checked, but by instead by the missed call. I'm not saying it wasn't a penalty, and arguably suspendable, but to construe it as retaliatory when it clearly wasn't is wrong when you argue that's part of the justification of the suspension.

In lieu of a video, the best I could do was find this commentary by Bob McKenzie...http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/bob_mckenzie/?id=395252

[Bigwaved]

Nice. A big game to take right there.

[icehog3]

Great game in NYC, that is playoff hockey.

Not so much in Phoenix, Smith continues to amaze, and I continue to hate him.

My Goat of the Playoffs: Joel Ward: 2 (goals against) for the price of one (stupid high stick).

[Hooligan]

Well that caps game was unreal but I was on the edge of my seat te whole time.

[Ahbroody]

Shocked. Was at the rink last night with son for most of the game. When I checked score in 3rd I was shocked. Crazy if Jersey can come out of East.

[yourchoice]

Shocked.

Before the series started, I would have said I'll be shocked if the Flyers can't get past the Devils. Going into last night's game, after the way the series had played out to that point...I wasn't shocked. Disappointed? You bet.

[Bigwaved]

A great, controlling game by the Caps. Off to game seven.

[Gophernut]

A great, controlling game by the Caps. Off to game seven.

I thought they played really smart aggressive hockey. Game 7 should be great!

[Bigwaved]

I thought they played really smart aggressive hockey. Game 7 should be great!
It has been a good series so far.

[icehog3]

Finally, a Semi-Final Round Game 7. :)

[PenguinsFan88]

With my beloved Penguins out, hopefully a Western Conference team hoists the Cup this year IMO.

[Ahbroody]

Finally, a Semi-Final Round Game 7. :)

Lets go Caps!

[PenguinsFan88]

Idealistically I'd love to see:

- Caps lose tonight

- A hissyfit of menopausally epic proportions after Torts and the Rags lose in the SCF.

As a Penguins fan I hate both the Caps and the Rangers with a burning passion. With that said though, I hate Ovechkin and the Caps a wee bit more. Hopefully they're out tonight.

[Eleven]

I think Doc Emrick is past his prime. He mistakes players for others all the time, missed plays, and thinks that every single little shot is a DRRRIIIIIIIIIVVVVVEEEE!

I miss Steve Levy and Gary Thorne.

[Bigwaved]

On to the next round. The Caps were a tough team to beat.

[Bigwaved]

Lets go Caps!
"going" home

[Ahbroody]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhyzKhExp-o&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Lulz

[icehog3]

Great series! Congrats to the Ranger Fans (Davey-Boy), and to the Caps fans for a good season.

Now Let's Go Kings! :wo

[Bigwaved]

It looks like game 3 is next Saturday. :tuGreat series! Congrats to the Ranger Fans (Davey-Boy), and to the Caps fans for a good season.

Now Let's Go Kings! :wo

[icehog3]

It looks like game 3 is next Saturday. :tu

Should I wear my Rangers jersey for you?

[PenguinsFan88]

Hopefully the Devils can take out the Rangers.

Man I feel yucky for saying that though. Brodeur breaking the shutout record against the Penguins still makes me mad.

[icehog3]

Hopefully the Devils can take out the Rangers.

Man I feel yucky for saying that though. Brodeur breaking the shutout record against the Penguins still makes me mad.

Now you know how I feel about Mario Lemeiux and the Penguins for skating the Cup around my house in 1992. ;)

[PenguinsFan88]

Now you know how I feel about Mario Lemeiux and the Penguins for skating the Cup around my house in 1992. ;)

It's spelled "Lemieux" good Sir. Although his name can also be spelled G-O-D. It depends I guess. :D

Game 1 of the '92 Stanley Cup Finals is one of the greatest Pens games ever IMO. Why? Not only because of their comeback, but because of this.... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXKAQZoL4P4

I've seen the clip of that goal 1000 times and to this day it still gives me goosebumps.

[icehog3]

Yeah, I won't be clicking the link, I'm guessing it is the Mario Jr. (Jaromir) goal.

Lemeiieuxx is Satan as far as I am concerned. :r

Let's Go Kings! :wo

[icehog3]

Yesterday's My Hero of the Day:

Dustin Brown with another game winner.

This guy needs to wear the Indian Head.

[Bigwaved]

A good start. The Devils were a checking machine the first two periods though.

[icehog3]

Nice 3rd period for the Blueshirts. I predict another long series though, maybe another 7 games.

[Bigwaved]

I think you are right. their game is not suited to running away from anyone. That leaves very little margin for error.Nice 3rd period for the Blueshirts. I predict another long series though, maybe another 7 games.

[PenguinsFan88]

Yeah, I won't be clicking the link, I'm guessing it is the Mario Jr. (Jaromir) goal.

Close but no cigar (no pun intended. :D)

The Youtube link I posted was of Mario's game winner in Game 1 of the '92 Stanley Cup Finals. Y'know the goal when they lined up for a faceoff in the Blackhawks zone with like 17 seconds left? Ron Francis wins the face off and Larry Murphy takes the shot. The rebound comes off of Belfour right to Lemieux who buries it. :D

:banger

[icehog3]

Close but no cigar (no pun intended. :D)

The Youtube link I posted was of Mario's game winner in Game 1 of the '92 Stanley Cup Finals. Y'know the goal when they lined up for a faceoff in the Blackhawks zone with like 17 seconds left? Ron Francis wins the face off and Larry Murphy takes the shot. The rebound comes off of Belfour right to Lemieux who buries it. :D

:banger

Thanks. Next time give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice into it.


:lr :lr

[E.J.]

LA is looking very good....

[E.J.]

Quick w/ the shutout & Carter w/ a hattrick, the Kings go home with 2 in hand...

[icehog3]

Quick w/ the shutout & Carter w/ a hattrick, the Kings go home with 2 in hand...

My Heroes of the Day. :)

Looks like Marty Hanzal may sit Game 3.

Nice acting again by Smith on contact he initated. And what were the refs smoking giving Brown a "diving" call on that chop in the back of the leg by Smith? I have been there, that chit hurts. Smith should get a game, but I am sure he will not.

[E.J.]

And what were the refs smoking giving Brown a "diving" call on that chop in the back of the leg by Smith? I have been there, that chit hurts. Smith should get a game, but I am sure he will not.

X 2

As well as Smith's dive late, when I thought they may send someone in late to run him...... I don't think he'll get a game, but just saying......

[Eleven]

Smith's whack on Brown was bad, I didn't realize that Brown got a diving call on it. Smith's dive was weak and obvious, and I can't believe they let him get away with it!

I do hope they don't give Doan any extra discipline after his hit, that was bad timing and I don't think it should have been major or game to begin with. Hanzal on the other hand...yea that was bad.

[yourchoice]

Philly West is looking really good! ;)
Smith's whack on Brown was bad, I didn't realize that Brown got a diving call on it. Smith's dive was weak and obvious, and I can't believe they let him get away with it!

I do hope they don't give Doan any extra discipline after his hit, that was bad timing and I don't think it should have been major or game to begin with. Hanzal on the other hand...yea that was bad.

Couldn't agree more on all points...to call diving on Brown was rediculous!

[dvickery]

brown got the "diving" call because it was already a 2 man advantage...had it taken place when 5 on 5...smith would have gotten the only penalty.

ron hextall...made a living doing this.

as usuall...the refereeing in hockey remains the weak link of a beautiful game. f***king linesman think they are the stars of the show at every faceoff.

derrek

[Eleven]

as usuall...the refereeing in hockey remains the weak link of a beautiful game. f***king linesman think they are the stars of the show at every faceoff.

derrek

I think it gets worse the farther down the hockey chain it goes. I've seen Refs toss 12 year old kids out of faceoffs, and spend what seems like minutes getting them all lined up perfectly. At least at the level my kid plays at, there is *some* merit to it, but one Ref in particular is a total buzzkill on the ice with his insistence on perfection at the faceoff.

My biggest gripe this year at the NHL level was/is the officiating. An occasional mistake is one thing, but this year the Refs have taken over the game and in many cases are influencing outcomes.

Not that this really happened yesterday, but the "There was already a man advantage" argument should have ZERO bearing on calling another penalty.

[dvickery]

I think it gets worse the farther down the hockey chain it goes. I've seen Refs toss 12 year old kids out of faceoffs, and spend what seems like minutes getting them all lined up perfectly. At least at the level my kid plays at, there is *some* merit to it, but one Ref in particular is a total buzzkill on the ice with his insistence on perfection at the faceoff.

My biggest gripe this year at the NHL level was/is the officiating. An occasional mistake is one thing, but this year the Refs have taken over the game and in many cases are influencing outcomes.

Not that this really happened yesterday, but the "There was already a man advantage" argument should have ZERO bearing on calling another penalty.

i didnt say i agreed with the call(i didnt)...just saying why the "dive" was called...and yes the current manpower situation should have nothing to do with a fair unbiased referee's call...but it did and it does(influence the refs)...as i said before...the weak link in a beautiful game.

to call a good game...refs should be invisible.

derrek :hm

[Bigwaved]

brown got the "diving" call because it was already a 2 man advantage...had it taken place when 5 on 5...smith would have gotten the only penalty.

ron hextall...made a living doing this.

as usuall...the refereeing in hockey remains the weak link of a beautiful game. f***king linesman think they are the stars of the show at every faceoff.

derrek
yup

[Bigwaved]

good game, sucky result

[icehog3]

Wouldn't be shocked if this one goes 7....would be shocked if the Rangers don't make it to the dance.

[Bigwaved]

Wouldn't be shocked if this one goes 7....would be shocked if the Rangers don't make it to the dance.
The Devils have had their way mucking it up at the Rangers' end for too many extended stretches. That needs to be handled better by my guys or it will bite them too many times.

[Ahbroody]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcNw8WK-1Js&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Lol. Why do they even have him come to the post game conferences?

Him combined with Sutter ought to make for the worst combined post game interviews in nhl finals history.

Difference being Sutter is just a bad interview. Atleast he makes an effort though.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=177591

Torts is just a confrontational **** who seems to treat all members of the media with disdain.

[E.J.]

Kings go up 3-0...

[Sawyer]

Anyone ever gone to the finals only playing 13 games? (in the current format of course)

Kings are looking unbeatable. Still wishes the lightning hadn't let Smith go though.

[drjammer]

Anyone ever gone to the finals only playing 13 games? (in the current format of course)

Kings are looking unbeatable. Still wishes the lightning hadn't let Smith go though.

:tu

[Ahbroody]

Not sure if anyone has gone playing only 13.
I know as Tom mentioned no team has ever beat the #1,2,&3 seeds. I agree Kings look unstoppable. They have all the elements. Seems they will take who ever comes out of the east. That would be an epic run.

[gpugliese]

Anyone ever gone to the finals only playing 13 games? (in the current format of course)

Kings are looking unbeatable. Still wishes the lightning hadn't let Smith go though.

Found this elsewhere, not quite 13 games played stats but close.

The Oilers in 1983*, the Red Wings in 1995, and the Penguins in 2008 All started the playoffs 11-1, including 3-0 leads in each series.

All lost in the Finals. Oilers and Wings were swept. Oilers were swept by Islanders, Wings were swept by the Devils.

*This opening round was a best-of-five and they won it 3-0.

[dvickery]

since it started taking 16 wins to win the stanley cup...1988 edmonton oilers-16 and 2.
is the best record i can think of.

however many games to get to the 2nd or 3rd or 4th rounds counts for nothing(in my opinion)...just ask last years canucks.

i watched every game in '88 that the oilers played...it was actually a 4 1/2 game sweep(in the finals) over the bruins.

derrek :hm

[Ahbroody]

Interesting series in the East. Game 3 I thought Devils played well enough to win, but couldn't get a goal. Yesterday different result. More interesting was the Rangers meltdown. This series really could go either way. I'm going to pull for the Devils.

Everyone is of the opinion the Kings finish the Yotes tonight and plAy the waiting game. Think the cup will be coming to California regardless.

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/Penner2.jpg

[Ahbroody]

Height of the playoffs. Dead thread. Makes me sad.

Did anyone else think last nights game was poorly called?

Talking heads keep discussing the devils forecheck and how it may be the deciding factor if they win

[Sawyer]

Height of the playoffs. Dead thread. Makes me sad.

Did anyone else think last nights game was poorly called?

Talking heads keep discussing the devils forecheck and how it may be the deciding factor if they win

It definitely was. Third period on was almost unbelievable. For a while I thought they were trying to give it to Phoenix.

As far as it being a dead thread, I guess that is what happens when the Canucks, Blackhawks, Red Wings, Bruins and Penguins all get knocked out in the first round. I think that made it great, but all those teams have pretty big fan bases.

[icehog3]

Shows you that a lot of the people who post here are Homers, Mike, so once their team is out, they are done. Others, including you and me, love the game regardless.

I think the Kings' forecheck is the most impressive in the postseason, so aggressive with 2 guys on the puck, knowing Quick and the D can bail them out.

Devils forecheck could pay off with the wear and tear they are putting on Girardi, Del Zotto, McDunagh and others....I am sure they are hoping for a tired bunch of Rangers D-men in Games 6 and potential Game 7. Although Clarkson has been a beast and he may be less than 100% after the last couple games.

[E.J.]

Height of the playoffs. Dead thread. Makes me sad.

Did anyone else think last nights game was poorly called?

Talking heads keep discussing the devils forecheck and how it may be the deciding factor if they win

Fell asleep in OT of the Kings game while we were talking boxes....


Shows you that a lot of the people who post here are Homers, Mike, so once their team is out, they are done. Others, including you and me, love the game regardless.



I am no so sure it is that, as much as some just are watching, but having no vested interest other than watching hockey....don't have enough to say about it to come on and discuss.

Meaning, I am not sure that they love the game more or less than those posting, just don't feel strongly enough about it after to come post.... Less emotional investment, need to express happiness or disappointment to the masses.

GO AVS!

[E.J.]

.....so the Brown hit on Roszival is getting a lot of play, thoughts?

Milbury & Roenick were going at it in ESPN this morning.....:r I'm in the Roenick camp by the way.

[Sawyer]

.....so the Brown hit on Roszival is getting a lot of play, thoughts?

Milbury & Roenick were going at it in ESPN this morning.....:r I'm in the Roenick camp by the way.

Looked dirty to me last night when I watched it live and the couple replays they had during the game. Haven't taken a second look today or to see if Brown had anything to say about it.

[icehog3]

.....so the Brown hit on Roszival is getting a lot of play, thoughts?

Milbury & Roenick were going at it in ESPN this morning.....:r I'm in the Roenick camp by the way.

I agree with you and J.R., E.J..

[Sawyer]

After another viewing, I am going to change my opinion of 'dirty hit' to a 'bad, knee on knee hit, that came after the whistle and probably could have been avoided'. It should have been a penalty, but not worth supplemental discipline.

[Bruins Fan]

I'm watching..just don't have a dog in the fight,the cup winner will come out of the east :D

[Sawyer]

I'm watching..just don't have a dog in the fight,the cup winner will come out of the east :D

As long as it isn't the Rangers, I'm cool with that. :)

[E.J.]

As long as it isn't the Rangers, I'm cool with that. :)

As I stated before, I think a NY vs LA final would be cool... Though I am not a fan of either the Rangers or Devils.... Whoever comes out of the East, I hope they lose in 7....

[Sawyer]

Wow. Unbelievable keep by Kovalchuk. And that was a really quick start.

[Sawyer]

As I stated before, I think a NY vs LA final would be cool... Though I am not a fan of either the Rangers or Devils.... Whoever comes out of the East, I hope they lose in 7....
Being a former Thrashers fan, I wouldn't mind seeing Kovalchuk and Hedberg getting a cup. Not a Devils fan though.

[taltos]

Height of the playoffs. Dead thread. Makes me sad.

Did anyone else think last nights game was poorly called?

Talking heads keep discussing the devils forecheck and how it may be the deciding factor if they winThe announcers kept talking about the officials working their way into the Finals. Haven't seen too many referees who deserve to move on. It seems that the linesmen have done better. For the record, I do check the thread daily but seldom post any more.

[E.J.]

Wow, NY can't be happy right now..... NJ grinding

[Sawyer]

Wow, NY can't be happy right now..... NJ grinding

They can only be disappointed with themselves. They got a couple fluky goals or it would have been way worse. Going back to jersey, the devils definitely have the momentum.

[icehog3]

I'm watching..just don't have a dog in the fight,the cup winner will come out of the east :D

I'll take that bet. ;)

Great game tonight....Rangers dominate, Devils win.

[Eleven]

The announcers kept talking about the officials working their way into the Finals. Haven't seen too many referees who deserve to move on. It seems that the linesmen have done better. For the record, I do check the thread daily but seldom post any more.

Worst Officiating Season Ever.

I thought Doughty was gonna have an embolism right on the ice after the blown offside call.

Little calls like that *can* change games, and these guys are supposed to be the best of the best. You just can't miss stuff like that.

My biggest issue with the NHL isn't head shots, boardings or fights, it's the horrible officiating.

[icehog3]

Worst Officiating Season Ever.

I thought Doughty was gonna have an embolism right on the ice after the blown offside call.

Little calls like that *can* change games, and these guys are supposed to be the best of the best. You just can't miss stuff like that.

My biggest issue with the NHL isn't head shots, boardings or fights, it's the horrible officiating.

They are human, Scott, they are gonna miss a call here and there. Game happens at lightning's pace at that level, and linesmen get caught in bad positions at times. We have the luxury of slow motion and instant replay. Not an easy job, to say the least, but until they install laser beam blue lines, huimans have to make the calls. :)

[Bigwaved]

My fellas are in a big hole. Hopefully, they can get it back to the Garden for another game seven.

[icehog3]

My fellas are in a big hole. Hopefully, they can get it back to the Garden for another game seven.

I predicted 7 games for this series from the start. Rangers had their best game of the series in Game 5 (excepting Henrik)....I look for him to have a big bounceback game.