12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 [Archive]

shilala

12-09-2010, 07:11 AM

waffle

12-09-2010, 07:12 AM

that is a good deal...if only i needed some lighters.

when do you NOT need lighters?

papajohn67

12-09-2010, 07:30 AM

I checked Reselleratings on schnoop, they have a 6/10 or thereabouts. I did it cause I never heard of them before.
I figure a 6/10 is probably pretty good considering the only people that are going to take time to post a review are the ones who are really pissed.
For 16 bucks I'll give them a shot. If it works out, I'll be totally stoked. :tu
Thanks Tom!!!

I also did some snooping on schoop and said what the hell.......why not?

tsolomon

12-09-2010, 07:32 AM

I'm in for a box. :D

JDTexan

12-09-2010, 07:35 AM

I had to jump on that deal, no other choice.

icehog3

12-09-2010, 09:43 AM

I checked Reselleratings on schnoop, they have a 6/10 or thereabouts. I did it cause I never heard of them before.
I figure a 6/10 is probably pretty good considering the only people that are going to take time to post a review are the ones who are really pissed.
For 16 bucks I'll give them a shot. If it works out, I'll be totally stoked. :tu
Thanks Tom!!!

I bit on it too, Scott, so if there is any problem, I am going down with the ship. :)

chippewastud79

12-09-2010, 09:48 AM

when do you NOT need lighters?

I don't need lighters. ;s

KenyanSandBoa

12-09-2010, 09:50 AM

Suuuweeet!! My order is in...

Thanks for the heads up Tom!! :tu

waffle

12-09-2010, 09:52 AM

I don't need lighters. ;s

Its cuz youre a communist....

Blueface

12-09-2010, 09:52 AM

My order is in.
Thanks Tom.

chippewastud79

12-09-2010, 09:59 AM

Its cuz youre a communist....

Whoa Whoa Whoa. Thats not even cool, please don't associate me with Dan in such a nature. :td

waffle

12-09-2010, 10:01 AM

Whoa Whoa Whoa. Thats not even cool, please don't associate me with Dan in such a nature. :td

I'm sorry, I went a bit overboard, that was too drastic.

icehog3

12-09-2010, 10:02 AM

On the 12th Day of Christmas, the Asylum gave to me......

12 Ronson lighters,
11 pipes a packin',
10 cutters cutting,
9 tampers tamping,
8 pokers poking,
7 Dunhills dancing,
6 Montes munting,
5 Partagas Shoooooorts,
4 smoking jackets,
3 RAC cabs,
2 Bolivars,

and a Cohiba in a cigar tree.

Ogre

12-09-2010, 10:07 AM

Just placed mine.

aich75013

12-09-2010, 10:09 AM

Order placed.

Blindjimme

12-09-2010, 10:36 AM

In :tu

Skywalker

12-09-2010, 10:41 AM

Trigger pulled!!!

Thanks Tom AND Sauer Grapes!!!:tu:tu

skullnrose

12-09-2010, 10:42 AM

Thanks for the heads up Tom ! I'm in.

Don Fernando

12-09-2010, 10:53 AM

I checked Reselleratings on schnoop, they have a 6/10 or thereabouts. I did it cause I never heard of them before.
I figure a 6/10 is probably pretty good considering the only people that are going to take time to post a review are the ones who are really pissed.
For 16 bucks I'll give them a shot. If it works out, I'll be totally stoked. :tu
Thanks Tom!!!

I bit on it too, Scott, so if there is any problem, I am going down with the ship. :)

heck, if it is a scam, I just won't pay Kelmac, so he goes down the ship twice :D

Skywalker

12-09-2010, 10:55 AM

heck, if it is a scam, I just won't pay Kelmac, so he goes down the ship twice :D

:r

If this works, will I eventually get my Gurkha swag???:D

Ogre

12-09-2010, 11:08 AM

heck, if it is a scam, I just won't pay Kelmac, so he goes down the ship twice :D

Smart man. Just watch what Mac wants for shipping them to you. You may still pay. LOL

shvictor

12-09-2010, 11:13 AM

Just pulled the trigger.

Blueface

12-09-2010, 11:39 AM

This link may end up being a bigger money maker than the texts for your free Wallmart gift card.:r:r:r

NeuRon

12-09-2010, 11:44 AM

sick! good for keeping random lighters around the cars, boat, garage, shed, etc... lol

BigAsh

12-09-2010, 11:51 AM

when do you NOT need lighters?

true!...duly ordered :tu

Brutus2600

12-09-2010, 11:56 AM

Trying to pull the trigger but it won't accept my registration for some reason...guess I'll keep trying :sh

ripper

12-09-2010, 12:18 PM

They're giving 'em away. I'm in.
Thanks Mr. Hog.

gvarsity

12-09-2010, 12:30 PM

Thanks for the link picked up a pack. This will be very useful.

CasaDooley

12-09-2010, 12:47 PM

I need more lighters like I need a hole in the head!

Anyone have an extra bung?:r 12 on the way. Thanks Tom:D

awsmith4

12-09-2010, 12:58 PM

Are these jet or soft flame?

dwoodward

12-09-2010, 12:59 PM

Meh, I am still debating buying... I already have 10 Ronsons lol...

Gosh! The value is just so right, but I don't wanna spend the money lol

Ogre

12-09-2010, 01:06 PM

Meh, I am still debating buying... I already have 10 Ronsons lol...

Gosh! The value is just so right, but I don't wanna spend the money lol

The money?? They make great bomb gifts and cheap!!!

BeerAdvocate

12-09-2010, 01:15 PM

I couldnt pass it up. Im in!!!

14holestogie

12-09-2010, 01:24 PM

Are these jet or soft flame?

I believe I saw torch in the description.

hotreds

12-09-2010, 01:24 PM

Gonna get some for the troops!

n3uka

12-09-2010, 01:32 PM

I don't need lighters. ;s

The troops could always use lighters :D

MarioF

12-09-2010, 01:33 PM

I'm in, what a deal.

T.G

12-09-2010, 01:35 PM

Are these jet or soft flame?

Neither it would seem. Ronson defines the jets and soft flames differently - follow the link at the end of this post to the archive site and click on the jetlite and the comet lighters - note the visual depiction of the flames.

Windproof low profile blue-flame. If these are what I think they are, they are more of a cigarette lighter than a cigar lighter. If they are anything like the Colibri with similar style flame that I used to own a long time ago, they can light a cigarette in hurricane but really are kind of a pain for cigars and touchups are exceptionally difficult.

Again, there are a couple "IF"s in there - I could be completely wrong as I'm not personally familiar with this lighter, but based on the description and picture, that's what it sounds like anyway. Or it might work better for cigars than the Colibri I used to own.

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8222/ronsonamerolite.jpg

http://web.archive.org/web/20051225124145/www.ronsoncorp.com/amerolite.cfm

awsmith4

12-09-2010, 01:44 PM

So like the ones with the little coil that heats up and produces a flame?

canucks6024

12-09-2010, 01:45 PM

Boo, no international shipping. Rules out us here north of the border :(

max_power

12-09-2010, 01:50 PM

It's funny; I was just reading everyone's reviews on the Jetlites, when i saw this thread. I jumped on it too. Who knows what we'll get?

Looking at the description on Shnoop, it says [Ronson Euro Lite] in the little description. I wonder if these are not made for the USDM?

Skywalker

12-09-2010, 01:56 PM

Neither it would seem. Ronson defines the jets and soft flames differently - follow the link at the end of this post to the archive site and click on the jetlite and the comet lighters - note the visual depiction of the flames.

Windproof low profile blue-flame. If these are what I think they are, they are more of a cigarette lighter than a cigar lighter. If they are anything like the Colibri with similar style flame that I used to own a long time ago, they can light a cigarette in hurricane but really are kind of a pain for cigars and touchups are exceptionally difficult.

Again, there are a couple "IF"s in there - I could be completely wrong as I'm not personally familiar with this lighter, but based on the description and picture, that's what it sounds like anyway. Or it might work better for cigars than the Colibri I used to own.

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8222/ronsonamerolite.jpg

http://web.archive.org/web/20051225124145/www.ronsoncorp.com/amerolite.cfm

But it said... "These Ronson Amero Lite butane torch lighters"!!!:sh

T.G

12-09-2010, 02:00 PM

So like the ones with the little coil that heats up and produces a flame?

That's what it kind of sounds like. Again, I'm not 100% certain though, just going off of the manufacturers description and photos.

hotreds

12-09-2010, 02:03 PM

It does say "perfect for pipe and cigars" so I imagine that it's not a car type cigarette lighter- altho it might not be perfect for cigars and/or pipes!

awsmith4

12-09-2010, 02:21 PM

It does say "perfect for pipe and cigars" so I imagine that it's not a car type cigarette lighter- altho it might not be perfect for cigars and/or pipes!

Well hell for this price I'll get them anyway

T.G

12-09-2010, 02:35 PM

But it said... "These Ronson Amero Lite butane torch lighters"!!!:sh

Advertisements often say lots of things that are somewhat inaccurate or open to personal interpretation just to sell something, look at Arganese cigar descriptions in the ads, for example, they include words such as "delicious" and "tasty". :=:

Ok, seriously now...

I agree, it's confusing. I haven't used this lighter myself, but the manufacturer doesn't even call it a torch or jet nor to they picture it as one. Take a look:

JETLITE (http://web.archive.org/web/20051225123153/www.ronsoncorp.com/jetlite.cfm) - note the drawing of the jet flame and describing it as a torch

COMET (http://web.archive.org/web/20051225110050/www.ronsoncorp.com/comet.cfm) - a soft flame - again, accurate flame picture

AMEROLITE (http://web.archive.org/web/20051225124145/www.ronsoncorp.com/amerolite.cfm) - note the pair of short/small, stubby split flames and lack of manufacturer description as a torch. Yeah, technically it might be a torch due to the type of flame, but if the picture is accurate, I don't think it's the type of torch we prefer and are used to using around here.

http://web.archive.org/web/20060515091155/www.ronsoncorp.com/images/main_jetlite3.jpghttp://web.archive.org/web/20060515091008/www.ronsoncorp.com/images/main_comet3.jpghttp://web.archive.org/web/20060621210734/ronsoncorp.com/images/main_amerolite3.jpg

I was contemplating about ordering myself, but I found the lack of mention of the product on the manufacturers website odd and that it was being closed out by an internet clearing house etailer kind of curious along with Albert's question was enough to make me go spend the 5 minutes to go find the product in the archives.

They might very well be some sort of torch, I dunno.

For basically the same money, I can just order the lighters from DealExtreme and I know exactly what I'll be getting.

AlohaStyle

12-09-2010, 02:56 PM

A CF post on Oct 23, 2004 titled Ronson Amero Lite says:

"Found 6 of these for a buck a piece. Great torch lighter for the money. Refillable with flame adjustment. Kinda like a zippo, but a butane blue flame torch. Factory direct for $5.50 on the Ronson website."

A different forum post on June 25, 2009 says:

"The local B&M just started carrying the Ronson "Amero Lite." It looks to be a fancier version of the jet lite. at six bucks it's more expensive, but I almost never go to Walmart. I couldn't help but pick one up."

T.G

12-09-2010, 02:58 PM

Oh, and BTW, to be honest, for the massive amount of BOTLs who have gone and ordered these, I hope the speculation about possibly being a safety lighter or ultra-low heigh torch is wrong.

Skywalker

12-09-2010, 03:02 PM

Advertisements often say lots of things that are somewhat inaccurate or open to personal interpretation just to sell something...

:sw Advertisements would never do that!:rolleyes:

Ok... I was totally kidding! But then you went and used Arganese cigars as your example!

You are no longer welcome to my Arganese collection! :su

Let's see you shell your precious walnuts now!!!:D

shilala

12-09-2010, 03:16 PM

Oh, and BTW, to be honest, for the massive amount of BOTLs who have gone and ordered these, I hope the speculation about possibly being a safety lighter or ultra-low heigh torch is wrong.
Thanks for all the legwork, Adam. :tu
I figure, for the money, I can't lose. They're gonna be really good all-purpose throw in the junk drawer lighters at the bare minimum. I can give them away whenever anyone who stops by needs a lighter, or whatever.
I think I have a good idea what they are now that you did the research. :tu

T.G

12-09-2010, 03:23 PM

:sw Advertisements would never do that!:rolleyes:

Ok... I was totally kidding! But then you went and used Arganese cigars as your example!

You are no longer welcome to my Arganese collection! :su

Let's see you shell your precious walnuts now!!!:D

Well, poop. All the kids in the neighborhood will be so upset that without my Arganese Presidente Maduro, I won't be able to have handfuls of the rotting outer flesh from fresh walnuts to drop in their trick or treat bags. I might actually have to go buy candy or something for next year. :sad

icehog3

12-09-2010, 04:13 PM

Quite frankly, for $16, I am not going to get my skivvies in a wad worrying about it, I will see when they get here. :r

Skywalker

12-09-2010, 04:21 PM

Quite frankly, for $16, I am not going to get my skivvies in a wad worrying about it, I will see when they get here. :r

Now I have your "skivvies in a wad" burned onto my brain!!!:D

T.G

12-09-2010, 04:33 PM

Now I have your "skivvies in a wad" burned onto my brain!!!:D

I can fix that for you.

Now read carefully.

Ready?

Sure? Ready-ready?

"swamp ass"

(hey, I never said it would be an improvement)

DennisP

12-09-2010, 04:34 PM

I am not going to get my skivvies in a wad worrying about it

You'll save that for making sure I get an MDO 2 that wasn't ever requested. :D

Blueface

12-09-2010, 06:02 PM

Thank you for your recent order with Shnoop.com. A package was shipped to you on 12/09/2010 via U.S. Postal Service

DBall

12-09-2010, 06:23 PM

Thank you for your recent order with Shnoop.com. A package was shipped to you on 12/09/2010 via U.S. Postal Service

Holy crap... same here. Damn... that's fast!

CigarGuy88

12-09-2010, 06:34 PM

Holy crap... same here. Damn... that's fast!

Me too :)

mariogolbee

12-09-2010, 06:49 PM

What is the shipping cost on these?

Edit: Never mind. They're all gone now...

icehog3

12-09-2010, 06:55 PM

You'll save that for making sure I get an MDO 2 that wasn't ever requested. :D

I aims to please. :r

hotreds

12-09-2010, 07:11 PM

What is the shipping cost on these?

Edit: Never mind. They're all gone now...

Free shipping. I did notice how there was a caveat that some of them might have dings from original shipping. I'm guessing a shipment got banged up pretty good and they couldn't sell them at retail, so they're getting rid of them this way. I frankly don't care if they have dings, as long as they work for our troops.

Ogre

12-09-2010, 07:30 PM

I got an email with a tracking number. Guess they are shipping already.

hotreds

12-09-2010, 07:32 PM

I aims to please. :r

Our aim is to keep this bathroom clean. Your aim will help.

CigarGuy88

12-09-2010, 07:33 PM

What is the shipping cost on these?

Edit: Never mind. They're all gone now...

Hey Mario are you looking to get a few? I ordered 24 of them so I could send some your way if you would like :)

Ogre

12-09-2010, 07:36 PM

Hey Mario are you looking to get a few? I order 24 of them so I could send some your way if you would like :)

This sounds like a typical CA set up. Guess you have to do it if you want some.:noon:noon

smokin5

12-09-2010, 08:36 PM

If these lighters turn out to be decent torches
and not low intensity flames, I'd like to buy 2-3
of them for $2@ plus shipping. Anyone game?

Eleven

12-09-2010, 08:45 PM

Missed this.

But this made me chuckle: "Each lighter retails for $14.95"

Skywalker

12-09-2010, 09:28 PM

Missed this.

But this made me chuckle: "Each lighter retails for $14.95"

I know! Isn't that great!

We all know that advertising would never be misleading!!!:rolleyes:

colimo

12-10-2010, 12:14 AM

darn..missed it...oh well guess i will keep tryingto get em at walmart

oramac

12-10-2010, 08:14 AM

No news on shipping for me yet, hopefully I'll get an email sometime today letting me know

max_power

12-10-2010, 01:03 PM

Mine have shipped! I'll take some pics and post them when they get in.

Also, for you fellow inmates who missed the deal, I'll part with some for shipping only. I'll only need 4-5 of these.

M_P

Ismith75

12-10-2010, 01:59 PM

We all know that advertising would never be misleading!!!

HAHA...Especially not anything related to cigars :rolleyes:

jmsremax

12-10-2010, 04:33 PM

Mine have shipped!

M_P

Same here :tu

shilala

12-10-2010, 04:41 PM

I tried to buy them three times yesterday. I kept getting timed out on their server.
I remembered to try again late last night and it was over. Dogwater.

kelmac07

12-10-2010, 04:59 PM

Says my order is still processing. :confused:

mariogolbee

12-10-2010, 05:03 PM

Free shipping. I did notice how there was a caveat that some of them might have dings from original shipping. I'm guessing a shipment got banged up pretty good and they couldn't sell them at retail, so they're getting rid of them this way. I frankly don't care if they have dings, as long as they work for our troops.
Thanks Hugh.
Hey Mario are you looking to get a few? I ordered 24 of them so I could send some your way if you would like :)
I don't know. This offer has me a little concerned. I'll PM you for a trade.
This sounds like a typical CA set up. Guess you have to do it if you want some.:noon:noon
Ya. I think this may be a trap.

Emjaysmash

12-10-2010, 05:05 PM

http://www.bhatt.id.au/blogimg/its-a-trap.jpg

mariogolbee

12-10-2010, 05:06 PM

http://www.bhatt.id.au/blogimg/its-a-trap.jpg

See?

longknocker

12-10-2010, 06:00 PM

See?

Hopefully, It's Legit, Guys! GL, All!:tu

Bunker

12-10-2010, 06:10 PM

It says mine have shipped.

I definitely don't need 12 of them and would be willing to trade a few to those that missed out.

Ogre

12-10-2010, 08:27 PM

mine shows enroute by priority mail. Perhaps Monday.

ylo2na

12-11-2010, 07:03 AM

Nice!

I heard that Boston just sent out their playoff tickets for 2011.... yikes! Being a Ray's fan, we will miss Crawford. To watch him run the bases is worth the ticket into the ballpark. He's a cool dude...
Chuck
Tampa

Kreth

12-11-2010, 11:53 AM

If these are a different model than the Jetlite, I'd be interested in buying or trading for 1 or 2 to see how they stack up against my Jetlites.
Posted via Mobile Device

Kreth

12-11-2010, 03:02 PM

If these are a different model than the Jetlite, I'd be interested in buying or trading for 1 or 2 to see how they stack up against my Jetlites.
And Rick (Bunker) took care of this about 5 mins after I posted. :r
Posted via Mobile Device

jonumberone

12-11-2010, 06:06 PM

Mine are here!
A few scratches and blemishes on some, but worth the $.
Having a hard time lighting them now, but they are ice cold.
I'll try again in half an hour.

Ogre

12-11-2010, 06:20 PM

Pics pics pics pics

NeuRon

12-11-2010, 06:34 PM

got mine too.. scratched and each one has adhesive stuck to the back.. but they still light right up..

icehog3

12-11-2010, 08:09 PM

Mine are here!
A few scratches and blemishes on some, but worth the $.
Having a hard time lighting them now, but they are ice cold.
I'll try again in half an hour.

Try 'em again yet, Dom?

got mine too.. scratched and each one has adhesive stuck to the back.. but they still light right up..

Are they torches, Ron?

jonumberone

12-11-2010, 08:56 PM

Try 'em again yet, Dom?

Are they torches, Ron?

Twelve out of twelve Worked :tu

I would call them more of a windproof lighter than torch at the moment, I will spend sometime tomorrow adjusting them to see if I can get a flame from them.

The element glows bright orange, not much flame.
Definitely different than the jetlite.

jonumberone

12-11-2010, 09:11 PM

Just cranked one up all the way.
I got a torch like flame :tu

I'll try it on a smoke tomorrow.

joeobx

12-11-2010, 09:19 PM

If these are like the ones they have at wally world you an take out the little screw on the bottom and remove the case, take the little c clip around the adj. screw off....this will let you crank it up to flame thrower level. :D

papajohn67

12-12-2010, 12:37 AM

Website shows my order is still "processing"..............:confused:

shvictor

12-12-2010, 08:11 AM

Website shows my order is still "processing"..............:confused:

Me too

kelmac07

12-12-2010, 09:54 AM

Website shows my order is still "processing"..............:confused:

Mine too. :confused:

papajohn67

12-12-2010, 10:27 AM

Website shows my order is still "processing"..............:confused:

Of course they did manage to process my payment.

MiamiE

12-12-2010, 10:36 AM

Mine were shipped on friday. Guess ill have them tomorrow or tuesday.

shvictor

12-12-2010, 09:19 PM

Of course they did manage to process my payment.

:tpd::sh

Skywalker

12-12-2010, 09:56 PM

Website shows my order is still "processing"..............:confused:

Same here!

bobarian

12-12-2010, 10:11 PM

Same here!

:tpd:

skullnrose

12-12-2010, 10:37 PM

I got mine yesterday as mentioned above they have some adhesive and a few minor scratches but the all lit right up. Thanks again for the heads up and I hope everyone gets them soon.

LostAbbott

12-12-2010, 10:39 PM

:np

kelmac07

12-13-2010, 05:38 AM

My order finally says shipped!! :tu :tu

Blueface

12-13-2010, 08:13 AM

My order shows in my town, out for delivery today so my mailman should have them here in a couple of hours.

icehog3

12-13-2010, 10:23 AM

Blueface

12-13-2010, 10:48 AM

Got mine today....half-assed packing job but I guess that doesn't matter with lighters.

2 different styles, 7 of one style and 5 of another.

They all appear to work, although most will need adjustment to make them true "torches".

Still not a bad deal at all for $16. :2

Agree.

Just got mine a few minutes ago.
The packing cracked me up.
They were just thrown loose in the box so therefore, I kind of now understand what others were referring to as "scratches".:r

They all work fine and well worth the price of poker.

Mine also had that removed sticker glue residue.
Nothing adhesive remover can't take care of.

icehog3

12-13-2010, 10:55 AM

Agree.

Just got mine a few minutes ago.
The packing cracked me up.
They were just thrown loose in the box so therefore, I kind of now understand what others were referring to as "scratches".:r

They all work fine and well worth the price of poker.

Mine also had that removed sticker glue residue.
Nothing adhesive remover can't take care of.

Mine still have pieces of the "Made in China" stickers on about 1/2 of them.

CigarGuy88

12-13-2010, 10:57 AM

How do floridians already have them when mine shipped out on the 9th and they haven't even got to the post office yet and I'm in NY!?

icehog3

12-13-2010, 10:59 AM

How do floridians already have them when mine shipped out on the 9th and they haven't even got to the post office yet and I'm in NY!?

I'm in Chicago. ;) :wo

MarioF

12-13-2010, 11:18 AM

I'm in MD and I got them today.
Very crappy packing
This is how they looked when I opened the box
http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/MTF51/IMG_6372a.jpg

This is the condition they are in; a little scratched and looks like something was stuck to it
http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/MTF51/IMG_6370a.jpg

And this is the flame
http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad233/MTF51/IMG_6375a.jpg

Overall I would buy them again, and thanks Tom for the headsup.

Blueface

12-13-2010, 11:18 AM

How do floridians already have them when mine shipped out on the 9th and they haven't even got to the post office yet and I'm in NY!?

:r

Here is my set.......after putting it back together as my box looked just like the one in the previous photo post.

P.S.
For anyone concerned, the darn things work way better than any of my Colibri in that at least it works.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/77220df8.jpg

aich75013

12-13-2010, 11:31 AM

Mine should arrive today. They're probably landing right now, except I'm at work.

For anyone concerned, the darn things work way better than any of my Colibri in that at least it works.

:lr Thanks to comments like that, I never bought a Colibri, even though I wanted one.
I have a Prometheus that my local B&M owner recommended. I've had it 3 years, and it still works great.

ripper

12-13-2010, 12:37 PM

My order of 12/9 still "in processing." They did manage to charge my credit card.
If they get here to the upper left corner of the USA, should be around March 2011.

OnlyDryReds

12-13-2010, 12:47 PM

Mine should be there today, we shall see :)

shvictor

12-13-2010, 01:24 PM

Mine are still processing?????

Ogre

12-13-2010, 01:36 PM

Got mine, All work

CigarGuy88

12-13-2010, 01:37 PM

Of course... I order one to go to my house in MA and one here in Syracuse and the one in MA (where I wont be until saturday) is coming in today.... what is wrong with this picture....

LostAbbott

12-13-2010, 03:48 PM

Thanks mario and Blue for the great pix, now if us guys up in Washington will ever see ours who knows....

hotreds

12-13-2010, 03:52 PM

Mine came today, all loose and rattling around the box. But, they appear to work which is all I- and I'm sure the troops- care about.

aich75013

12-13-2010, 03:53 PM

Mine were nicely packaged.
http://s1021.photobucket.com/albums/af335/aich75013/?action=view&current=54b8b554.jpg&evt=user_media_share
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I'll have to learn to post pictures from my phone.

Skywalker

12-13-2010, 03:57 PM

Mine are still processing?????

Mine also!!!:bh

OnlyDryReds

12-13-2010, 04:01 PM

Got mine today, about same shape as everyone else, few scratches and some sticky stuff, but all work. Now dont have to worry about loosing any when doing my yard work, or needing packing material when shipping a newbie trade. :noon

aich75013

12-13-2010, 04:06 PM

http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af335/aich75013/54b8b554.jpg
Maybe this will work better

hotreds

12-13-2010, 04:16 PM

Nope, mine did not have a wrap and thus all but one came out of the holder. So, indeed, they had the dings the ad mentioned!

tsolomon

12-13-2010, 04:18 PM

Got mine today, 11 out of 12 work.

papajohn67

12-13-2010, 04:23 PM

Still processing.....but they did email me the chance to get in on their latest offer.

waffle

12-13-2010, 05:47 PM

has anyone taken the clip out or tried to take the clip out to make them into a true torch as opposed to the mini-torch I'd qualify these as.

Bunker

12-13-2010, 05:54 PM

I got mine today, same assortment of finishes but they all seem to work.

kelmac07

12-13-2010, 05:57 PM

Arrived today...some dings and adhesive all over them. Nothing some WD-40 didn't take care of. :tu Ferdie...your set gets cleaned tomorrow.

http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv82/kelmac07_photo/IMG_2776.jpg

kelmac07

12-13-2010, 05:59 PM

Still processing.....but they did email me the chance to get in on their latest offer.

John...I emailed them last night and recieved a response this morning that mine had shipped...and then they arrived today. :D

MiamiE

12-13-2010, 06:03 PM

Got mine today. Definately not a Jetlite. Would like to see how they perform on a cigar.

T.G

12-13-2010, 06:34 PM

has anyone taken the clip out or tried to take the clip out to make them into a true torch as opposed to the mini-torch I'd qualify these as.

Depending on the nozzle design, it might or might not ever be possible to get a jet flame out of these - you could just end up with a little bit more height on the blue kernel low flame, assuming it doesn't blow itself out on ignition.

icehog3

12-13-2010, 07:51 PM

Depending on the nozzle design, it might or might not ever be possible to get a jet flame out of these - you could just end up with a little bit more height on the blue kernel low flame, assuming it doesn't blow itself out on ignition.

I already had a few producing a jet flame on arrival, so I am hoping they can all be adjusted to do the same.

T.G

12-13-2010, 07:57 PM

I already had a few producing a jet flame on arrival, so I am hoping they can all be adjusted to do the same.

Cool.

massphatness

12-13-2010, 08:14 PM

Nope, mine did not have a wrap and thus all but one came out of the holder. So, indeed, they had the dings the ad mentioned!

:tpd:

max_power

12-13-2010, 08:34 PM

Mine had the cling wrap on them, so no real dings. The adhesive was kind of a pain to get off though. All 12 work fine. I got three types of lighter, as shown here:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5242/5259273367_34455d5e69_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46343527@N06/5259273367/)
Awesome_2_01 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46343527@N06/5259273367/) by The_Max_Power (http://www.flickr.com/people/46343527@N06/), on Flickr

And two of the flame:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5087/5259884520_d4f9291e08_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46343527@N06/5259884520/)
Awesome_4_01 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46343527@N06/5259884520/) by The_Max_Power (http://www.flickr.com/people/46343527@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/5259274351_70f30d95b7_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46343527@N06/5259274351/)
Awesome_3_01 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46343527@N06/5259274351/) by The_Max_Power (http://www.flickr.com/people/46343527@N06/), on Flickr

Whynot

12-13-2010, 09:17 PM

:r

Here is my set.......after putting it back together as my box looked just like the one in the previous photo post.

P.S.
For anyone concerned, the darn things work way better than any of my Colibri in that at least it works.

That's kind of funny, but sad also. I have a very nice triple flame Colibri. It has never once lit for me. I need to see about sending it in I guess. It has sat for years and been in 2 countries with me, and I have never taken the time to see about getting it fixed. Man I'm lazy.

Bunker

12-14-2010, 05:26 AM

I used one to light my morning cigar (Alec Bradley Family Blend) and it worked fine.

Maybe not as powerful as the jetlight (no sound anyway) but it still is a focussed flame and worked better than a normal soft butane lighter. :tu

Blueface

12-14-2010, 06:05 AM

That's kind of funny, but sad also. I have a very nice triple flame Colibri. It has never once lit for me. I need to see about sending it in I guess. It has sat for years and been in 2 countries with me, and I have never taken the time to see about getting it fixed. Man I'm lazy.

Don't bother.
They'll fix it and two days later, if that long, it won't work again.
Been there done that with a few of them.

CigarGuy88

12-14-2010, 06:29 AM

Your item was processed through and left our BETHPAGE, NY 11714 facility on December 13, 2010. The item is currently in transit to the destination. Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. Please check again later.

Fail! Ordered it within 5 minutes of my first set going to MA. That package was delivered yesterday...

Don Fernando

12-14-2010, 07:59 AM

HK3-

12-14-2010, 08:00 AM

Snooze you lose... I missed the boat. They look nice! :tu

waffle

12-14-2010, 08:38 AM

And two of the flame:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5087/5259884520_d4f9291e08_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46343527@N06/5259884520/)
Awesome_4_01 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46343527@N06/5259884520/) by The_Max_Power (http://www.flickr.com/people/46343527@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/5259274351_70f30d95b7_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46343527@N06/5259274351/)
Awesome_3_01 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46343527@N06/5259274351/) by The_Max_Power (http://www.flickr.com/people/46343527@N06/), on Flickr

Did you do anything special to get the flames that high? Mine don't seem to flame as high as that... however, I don't think it'll be much of an issue lighting a smoke using it... just might take a few more seconds.

max_power

12-14-2010, 10:20 AM

Did you do anything special to get the flames that high? Mine don't seem to flame as high as that... however, I don't think it'll be much of an issue lighting a smoke using it... just might take a few more seconds.

I just cranked the adjustment screw on the bottom to the + side. That's one of the lower flames too. Most had a bit higher!

icehog3

12-14-2010, 10:26 AM

Don't bother.
They'll fix it and two days later, if that long, it won't work again.
Been there done that with a few of them.

Yup....I bought a Colibri lighter once.

Once. ;)

Skywalker

12-14-2010, 12:08 PM

I emailed them!

They sent a DC# which let me know it was shipped on the 10th!!!:tu

Blueface

12-14-2010, 12:11 PM

Skywalker

12-14-2010, 12:16 PM

Just in case anyone is wondering what these pups can be dialed up to.
I removed the screw from the bottom and opened the case.
Removed the gasket o'ring and then popped the clip.
Check this out.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s167/cmach_photo/740ccea1.jpg

I'll be looking for you on the "Needs Prayer" thread!!!:D

That O'ring was probably there for a reason... Just sayin'!

Blueface

12-14-2010, 12:21 PM

I'll be looking for you on the "Needs Prayer" thread!!!:D

That O'ring was probably there for a reason... Just sayin'!

It is.
It is on there to hold the clip in place that prevents you from opening the throttle up a bit more.
At some point, if you throttle it up too much, you will defeat what you are trying to do as the unit will no longer work.
Have no fear. I have done this to many lighters, including Colibri.
You have got to see this done on a triple flame. Scorches your eyebrow.

Skywalker

12-14-2010, 12:24 PM

It is.
It is on there to hold the clip in place that prevents you from opening the throttle up a bit more.
At some point, if you throttle it up too much, you will defeat what you are trying to do as the unit will no longer work.
Have no fear. I have done this to many lighters, including Colibri.
You have got to see this done on a triple flame. Scorches your eyebrow.

:r

Bunker

12-14-2010, 12:35 PM

:r

Have you rewired the dishwasher yet?

You are Tim the Toolman no?:sh

shvictor

12-14-2010, 06:51 PM

I emailed them!

They sent a DC# which let me know it was shipped on the 10th!!!:tu

Hopefully mine was shipped on the tenth also. Let me know when you get yours

DBall

12-14-2010, 07:08 PM

Mine came in... all different designs.

papajohn67

12-16-2010, 01:21 AM

Still processing.....but they did email me the chance to get in on their latest offer.

My order is both "pending" & "processing" per my account info.

No response to my inquiry.

While I may still be "processing" I'm far from "impressed".

shvictor

12-16-2010, 05:30 AM

shilala

12-16-2010, 07:02 AM

My order is both "pending" & "processing" per my account info.

No response to my inquiry.

While I may still be "processing" I'm far from "impressed".

I'm in the same boat. Not good customer service as far as I'm concerned.

Between the packing (or lack of), the shipping, the server timeouts, and the "pending" stuff, shnoop pretty much lived up to their reseller rating.
Hopefully it'll work out soon for you guys. Fortunately it's not big dollars tied up while you wait for resolution.

acarr

12-16-2010, 07:11 AM

My order is both "pending" & "processing" per my account info.

No response to my inquiry.

While I may still be "processing" I'm far from "impressed".

Same here.

LostAbbott

12-16-2010, 08:18 AM

guys, check your accounts. I just had someone try and buy a plane ticket on Saudi Arabian airlines with my card. shnoop is the only sketchy place I have used it recently, so it pretty much had to come from there.

CigarGuy88

12-16-2010, 08:26 AM

No account problems for me... I used poopal

jmsremax

12-16-2010, 10:08 AM

No account problems for me... I used poopal

:tpd:

Hope they resolve your CC issue quickly.

KenyanSandBoa

12-16-2010, 10:44 AM

My order is both "pending" & "processing" per my account info.

No response to my inquiry.

While I may still be "processing" I'm far from "impressed".

Mine was like that too, but they did respond to the inquiry and I got my lighters on Tuesday...order was placed on Thursday.

I hope everything works out for you...but I wasn't too pleased with their service as well. I tried calling the number on my statement, and it goes directly to a "No one can take your call...submit via website" message.

bobarian

12-16-2010, 12:48 PM

My order is still in process as well. I have sent an email query.

But if you shopped here expecting service then you are on the wrong boat. These kind of sites are not known for service, they exist to closeout merchandise at low margins and low prices. :2

ripper

12-16-2010, 12:50 PM

My order is both "pending" & "processing" per my account info.

No response to my inquiry.

While I may still be "processing" I'm far from "impressed".

Same here. Still processing. No response to my inquiry.
Miserable service. It's not like this is the only place selling lighters.

landhoney

12-16-2010, 01:04 PM

You are Tim the Toolman no?:sh

Carlos is known as the Cuban Tickler....err Tinkerer. :r

Skywalker

12-16-2010, 01:59 PM

I'm in the same boat. Not good customer service as far as I'm concerned.

My order is still in process as well. I have sent an email query.

But if you shopped here expecting service then you are on the wrong boat. These kind of sites are not known for service, they exist to closeout merchandise at low margins and low prices. :2

No worries. My tracking tells me they're in San Pablo. Bob should get his today or tomorrow, and I should get mine tomorrow or Monday...

I don't know about you, Steve??? Maybe never with that attitude!:D

MiamiE

12-16-2010, 02:23 PM

Thanks Carlos! Just converted mine! Now I wonder how a Jetlite would perform!

icehog3

12-16-2010, 02:23 PM

JDTexan

12-16-2010, 02:40 PM

massphatness

12-16-2010, 02:41 PM

Saw on one of the other public sites that a couple people who used their AMEX cards for this purchase have had fraudulent airline ticket purchases attempted on their AMEX cards. Please take a look at your on-line accounts if you used AMEX for this purchase.

:tpd: I paid using PP, so I need to check on my exposure, but I'm hearing about crazy stupid charges being made.

SoCalSmoker

12-16-2010, 03:18 PM

Saw on one of the other public sites that a couple people who used their AMEX cards for this purchase have had fraudulent airline ticket purchases attempted on their AMEX cards. Please take a look at your on-line accounts if you used AMEX for this purchase.

What Tom said.
My Amex card was hit with charges for

Turkish Airlines $1275
Air Canada $5500
Amer Airlines $900
All were caught by the fraud dept.

Skywalker

12-16-2010, 04:04 PM

What Tom said.
My Amex card was hit with charges for

Turkish Airlines $1275
Air Canada $5500
Amer Airlines $900
All were caught by the fraud dept.

That sucks!!!:td

Thanks for the heads up!

Just checked on VISA! It's good!:tu

kelmac07

12-16-2010, 05:00 PM

WOW!! Glad I used PP, hoping everything works out. Guess this will be the last time I order from this place.

Bunker

12-16-2010, 05:24 PM

PP here too

papajohn67

12-16-2010, 06:35 PM

My order is both "pending" & "processing" per my account info.

No response to my inquiry.

While I may still be "processing" I'm far from "impressed".

Contacted them a 2nd time...tracking number provided and whatever they are sending is currently enroute. I'm sure I'll something else to ***** about by the time the package arrives.

Kreth

12-16-2010, 06:45 PM

I'm sure I'll something else to ***** about by the time the package arrives.
Well, you did leave a word out of this sentence... ;)
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shvictor

12-16-2010, 06:52 PM

No worries. My tracking tells me they're in San Pablo. Bob should get his today or tomorrow, and I should get mine tomorrow or Monday...

I don't know about you, Steve??? Maybe never with that attitude!:D

Yeah I'm screwed

hotreds

12-16-2010, 07:18 PM

In case you missed it.....

http://www.pennywise.biz/

Ogre

12-16-2010, 07:25 PM

Just checked my card, all is good.

T.G

12-16-2010, 09:59 PM

In case you missed it.....

http://www.pennywise.biz/

Thanks Hugh.

BTW - pennywise appears to be the same entity as shnoop, so might want to be careful with the CCs and just use PP.

shvictor

12-16-2010, 10:06 PM

Well mine finally says that it has shipped

Don Fernando

12-17-2010, 02:09 AM

WOW!! Glad I used PP, hoping everything works out. Guess this will be the last time I order from this place.

WOW!! Glad I used kelmac07 :r

Ogre

12-17-2010, 08:36 AM

WOW!! Glad I used kelmac07 :r

Guess you cant over use the MAC card!!! Bank Kelli wont let that happen!!

kelmac07

12-17-2010, 09:26 AM

Guess you cant over use the MAC card!!! Bank Kelli wont let that happen!!

Ain't that the truth Larry!! :D

cort

12-17-2010, 05:41 PM

Got mine today. Looks like the West Coast is in business.

Don Fernando

12-18-2010, 01:40 AM

Guess you cant over use the MAC card!!! Bank Kelli wont let that happen!!

Kelly likes me

papajohn67

12-18-2010, 02:38 AM

Got mine today. Looks like the West Coast is in business.

UPS seems to have handed my package off by having it "tendered to local post office. Lucky me.

LostAbbott

12-18-2010, 12:38 PM

yup just got mine yesterday I quickly did some editing and got them all good to go. A few needed fixing, but all are more or less working now.

http://imgur.com/fIomr.jpg

papajohn67

12-18-2010, 01:51 PM

UPS seems to have handed my package off by having it "tendered to local post office. Lucky me.

Got mine...

Skywalker

12-18-2010, 03:45 PM

Just got mine!!!

Now to clean them up and do some fiddling!

shvictor

12-18-2010, 05:04 PM

Got mine. They work great

Montano

12-18-2010, 05:04 PM

Anybody got a Ronson I can barrow ?

icehog3

12-18-2010, 06:11 PM

Anybody got a Ronson I can barrow ?

Sure, whatcha need?

ripper

12-18-2010, 06:35 PM

Sent Shnoop 2 messages asking about tracking numbers, perhaps a shipping notification. Silly me, all the Shnoops wanted for Xmas was to get rid of 12 more lighters.
The dirty dozen arrived late this afternoon via the hybrid of UPS to our town's ridiculously small post office, then US Postal Service beater truck to our house in the dank dark woods above Henderson Bay.
Four different styles. They cleaned up nicely and glory of glories, they all work. The chrome ones are my faves.
Any cigar pals wanting one should send a PM. You may get a bit of swag, too.

stewshi

12-18-2010, 07:00 PM

Got mine yesterday also in AZ tested them out most work and most have some sticky residue on them. I have to do more testing some have large flames and others are barely there.

Anyone know how to fix them if once you let go the flame still burns strong? Or worse the gas keeps running? If there's no way these are prob destined for the trash.

smokin5

12-18-2010, 07:50 PM

If these lighters turn out to be decent torches
and not low intensity flames, I'd like to buy 2-3
of them for $2@ plus shipping. Anyone game?

Bump.
If you're not interested in cash,
I'm sure we can trade for something.
Hmmmm....let's see......what about cigars?

Starz26

12-19-2010, 03:14 PM

AlohaStyle

12-19-2010, 03:38 PM

I'm sure I'm not the first person to do this, but I emailed Shnoop asking who is responsible and for any record of hacks/intrusions, and if they don't respond to me by Tuesday morning, I will make sure the police know they are not cooperating.

I used Poopal so I am safe so far. However, I started the thread about this deal on another forum which ultimately led to the thread here so I feel a little guilty people are getting screwed over!

If you have had fraudulent charges, can you please add your name to the list and include the dollar amount? I would like to work with someone who has had these charges to file a criminal complaint. If someone has already contacted the police, can you let me know?

List of BOTLs with fraudulent charges (please copy and paste in your post):
1. Starz26 - $3,000
2.
3.
4.
5.

Blueface

12-19-2010, 03:40 PM

I get almost instant email notifications of ANY charges to my card.
Have not seen anything to date.

Blueface

12-19-2010, 03:42 PM

Just went online and checked.
Nothing.
If this vendor was responsible, I am sure I too would have been hit by now.

AlohaStyle

12-19-2010, 03:55 PM

Wow, here is Shnoop's response:

Thank you for your recent purchase. Presently, shnoop.com uses "Poopal" as the credit card processor, even for direct credit card orders. As such, all transactions are processed on "Poopal's" secure payment platform, which employs a sophisticated and proprietary algorithm to detect fraudulent transactions. In addition to this, we also subscribe to McAfee Secure, which performs a daily audit on our sites to ensure that all data sent between our sites and the credit card processor is secure, as well as PCI Compliance. Therefore, we do not believe that the security of your credit card was compromised on our site. If you have fraudulent transactions on your credit card, we encourage you to contact your card issuing bank to dispute the fraudulent transactions and request that they investigate the cause of it. Please don't hesitate to email us back if you have any further questions.

Regards,

The Shnoop Team

icehog3

12-19-2010, 04:21 PM

AlohaStyle

12-19-2010, 04:49 PM

FYI, Ryan....if a credit card company does not hold the cardholder responsible for fraudulent charges, the cardholder is no longer the victim in any criminal case...the credit card company would have to pursue the criminal charges.

I understand that and I'm sure the credit card co's do all they can to look into fraudulent charges. But there are different credit card companies being used by BOTLs that are getting screwed and if only 1 or 2 people are showing fraud charges for a certain card company, they are probably less likely to fully pursue a possible connection to a vendor than if they realized many more people were getting scammed by using the same vendor. I'm hoping some sort of law enforcement would like to see a complete list of customers whose credit cards are being compromised as this cannot be a coincidence and the trail has to lead to Shnoop.

I'm sure I couldn't help any more than the card co's doing their own investigation, but I have been scammed before and it just pisses me off. When I got scammed, I was told by the FBI and a County Computer Crimes division that they don't have time to go after small fish (even when I gave them a ton of evidence), so I think by creating a comprehensive list, someone would listen. Yeah that's a pipe dream, but still... :)

But if no one here cares after their card co's reverse the charges, then I guess I shouldn't care either... it still just pisses me off! LOL

AlohaStyle

12-19-2010, 05:16 PM

At least they are taking my inquiry seriously...

2nd email from Shnoop:

Thank you for following up on this with us. Once again, we do regret and apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. At this time, we have referred this matter to our contact within Poopal, and requested that they review this matter thoroughly, to determine if the fraud was somehow inadvertently linked to shnoop.com. We can assure you that we will do our best to ensure that this is resolved in satisfactory manner to the best of our abilities.

Regards,

The Shnoop Team

icehog3

12-19-2010, 07:43 PM

I totally understand Ryan. I would love to see the scammers get their due.

Don Fernando

12-20-2010, 06:37 AM

I get almost instant email notifications of ANY charges to my card.
Have not seen anything to date.

that's what you said at the SFL herf, no mails but when we got to your place we both saw the bags full of baby stuff your wife bought with your cc that day :D

waffle

12-21-2010, 10:08 AM

Well, I can confirm this happened to me as well. I just got a call from my CC company and they told me that there had been a $1,080 charge to Dell they had declined due to shipping address and that they had several requests from "foreign sources" for charges to my card. They have cancelled the card and will be shipping me a new card in the next two days... All I have to do on my end is send a fraud report, which they'll mail me and I simply sign and return. I guess I got lucky...

Starz26

12-21-2010, 12:40 PM

bobarian

12-21-2010, 12:46 PM

FYI, if you ordered from this deal please watch your credit cards. Everyone I know over on the other forums that ordered this deal has had fradulant charges appear.

I Just got a call from Amex Fraud. Nailed for $3,000 charge to Luftansa and a 40.00 charge to Air asia.

Thankfully Amex is very good at detecting this stuff and stopped them in their tracks.

I have no doubt that the use of Schnoops was the culprit either through a direct fraud by the website or and indirect hacking into their database.

Its good to know that the services ensuring that the site is secure and verified actually care about it...NOT

I contacted both ****** and McAfee yet it seems they still feel the need to keep their logo associated with this site...

Just proves those seals mean nothing and it is all about the money they make of providing those seals....

Did you lose money? "Everyone", that's a lot of people. I see only Amex people who have encountered these charges. What about the "Everyone" who use PP, Visa or MC? What proof do you have that the account number was not grabbed in the transaction between the third party biller and Amex?
Seems like an Amex issue and not the vendor? From every one who has posted I see 100% satisfaction in the product provided.

Blueface

12-21-2010, 01:00 PM

Did you lose money? "Everyone", that's a lot of people. I see only Amex people who have encountered these charges. What about the "Everyone" who use PP, Visa or MC? What proof do you have that the account number was not grabbed in the transaction between the third party biller and Amex?
Seems like an Amex issue and not the vendor? From every one who has posted I see 100% satisfaction in the product provided.

:tpd:
Hard to argue with this point.
I used Visa and to date, still no issues.
I can't see it being the vendor as they would not be selective in the fraud process.
If fraud is the intent, they would have nailed all of us.

markem

12-21-2010, 01:08 PM

Its good to know that the services ensuring that the site is secure and verified actually care about it...NOT

I contacted both ****** and McAfee yet it seems they still feel the need to keep their logo associated with this site...

Just proves those seals mean nothing and it is all about the money they make of providing those seals....

Dude, let it go. The financial model fits with the less-than-perfect credit card model. Trust me, I consult and teach grad school in this area.

At this point, you risk looking silly, vindictive, clueless, or maybe just like someone peed on your Cheerios. Dunno, but you've crossed the line of reasonableness.

If you do a search in the site, you can find a short but basically accurate post I made about how CC fraud actually occurs.

waffle

12-21-2010, 01:08 PM

I apologize I should have specified my CC was in fact a Visa. I am satisfied with the product and having said that, this is why I continue to use my CC when making online purchases, they are very good about ensuring that if someone manages to get my card number to right the issue before it gets out of hand.

elderboy02

12-21-2010, 01:11 PM

I used a one-time use secure online acct number thru Discover and nothing fraudulent has been charged. I love Discover's one-time use #'s :)

Blueface

12-21-2010, 01:13 PM

If you do a search in the site, you can find a short but basically accurate post I made about how CC fraud actually occurs.

Mark,
Can I suggest you attach that to this thread for anyone wanting to further explore that and may not be aware of that elusive "search" feature?

jitzy

12-21-2010, 01:26 PM

Blueface

12-21-2010, 01:34 PM

Sure you can Waffle used Visa and was compromised. I think its funny someone is trying to look out for guys and he's now turned into the vilian.

I sure as heck can't be quoted anywhere here on this thread making him out to be a villain.
While they may in fact be, I just think there is clearly insufficient evidence to conclude the vendor is at fault here and make that assertion.
While EVERYONE at that other site is purported to have been defrauded, EVERYONE on this thread hasn't. In fact, almost all have not.
Personally, I appreciate the heads up. However, the sky isn't falling here. Credit card fraud is a daily, every minute thing.
I have yet to be charged anything other than $15 and just checked again to make sure.

I would recommend anyone concerned activate email notification of any and all activity to their account. Amazing how much better one sleeps when you get notified on your smart phone of any and all charges.

icehog3

12-21-2010, 01:38 PM

Sure you can Waffle used Visa and was compromised. I think its funny someone is trying to look out for guys and he's now turned into the vilian.

Who's turning him into a villian? :confused:

14holestogie

12-21-2010, 01:43 PM

I sure as heck can't be quoted anywhere here on this thread making him out to be a villain.
While they may in fact be, I just think there is clearly insufficient evidence to conclude the vendor is at fault here and make that assertion.
While EVERYONE at that other site is purported to have been defrauded, EVERYONE on this thread hasn't. In fact, almost all have not.
Personally, I appreciate the heads up. However, the sky isn't falling here. Credit card fraud is a daily, every minute thing.
I have yet to be charged anything other than $15 and just checked again to make sure.

I would recommend anyone concerned activate email notification of any and all activity to their account. Amazing how much better one sleeps when you get notified on your smart phone of any and all charges.

:tpd:
Just checked again for the third or fourth time since this began, and nothing out of the ordinary on Discover.

I will say this for the 2 cards I use regularly. Discover has been compromised a couple years ago, but their fraud department contacted me asking if I had ordered a laptop. After telling them I hadn't, the card was deactivated and a new one was in the mail to me in a couple days.

The other I use for my "import" purposes contacts me just about every time I order with suspicious activity detected. I get a little ticked off having to tell them on a monthly basis that yes, that's my order. Let it go. :D

T.G

12-21-2010, 01:50 PM

I propose that we coin a new term, anytime your CC is compromised, "you've been Shnooped".

ripper

12-21-2010, 02:08 PM

My VISA card was Shnooped. Credit card company called today with unuauthorized charge overseas. I've never been across the ocean.
They have blocked my accounts, and issued new numbers.
Stupidness. Should have known better.

Starz26

12-21-2010, 02:22 PM

Dude, let it go.

At this point, you risk looking silly, vindictive, clueless, or maybe just like someone peed on your Cheerios. Dunno, but you've crossed the line of reasonableness.

Let it go, clueless, silly, vindictive?? Sure, then next time I will just sit back and say the hell with it. It did not affect me let everyone else figure it out for themselves.

Take it for what you will, Here, BOTL, Cigarfamily, etc...It is happening to "a lot" (everyone was an incorrect label.) of people. All of us have one thing in common, shnoop.

****** says they have not been compromised - Check
Site security is verified by Mcafee and godady - check
The authorized.net seal was removed on Monday - check

Not sure who is at fault but i do know that by placing and order on the site you risk your CC being compromised.

T.G

12-21-2010, 02:24 PM

There's really no way anyone could have known that CC #s going through this vendor on that day were going to get hit at some point along the way or if it was even in the vendors transmissions/control. Could have happened exterior to the vendor.

Probably every internet transaction involving a CC # runs the risk of being compromised in one fashion or the other.

Heck, you can get compromised going out to dinner and paying with a cc. Unscrupulous restaurant employee copies down your CC # and the CCID on the back while they have your card and you are at the table waiting for them to return with the charge sheets to sign.

jitzy

12-21-2010, 02:53 PM

Who's turning him into a villian? :confused:

Ok maybe villain was the wrong word but guys are kinda giving him crap it seams for bringing this to peoples attention. I don't know what board he is talking about when he says "everyone" but who knows maybe they have. Personally I used Pp and seam to be fine. Just surprises me someone tries to point out something that happened and he was made to look bad. If blueface didn't mean it like that than I apologize but the way it reads it does sound like that.

Don Fernando

12-21-2010, 03:05 PM

I've never been across the ocean.
.

You should, the Wooden Shoe Crew would love to herf with you someday.

ripper

12-21-2010, 03:13 PM

You should, the Wooden Shoe Crew would love to herf with you someday.
Another reason for this old Bart to stay home.
Thanks for the kind offer, Don F, but you would not want a cretin like me pestering you.

T.G

12-21-2010, 03:18 PM

Ok maybe villain was the wrong word but guys are kinda giving him crap it seams for bringing this to peoples attention.

Who is giving him crap? All I see are people disagreeing with some of his assertions.

BTW, FWIW, Mychal (LostAbbott) and Tom brought the CC fraud issue to people's attention on the 16th, three days prior to Starz26's first post on the subject.

Blueface

12-21-2010, 04:21 PM

:tpd:
Hard to argue with this point.
I used Visa and to date, still no issues.
I can't see it being the vendor as they would not be selective in the fraud process.
If fraud is the intent, they would have nailed all of us.

Sure you can Waffle used Visa and was compromised. I think its funny someone is trying to look out for guys and he's now turned into the vilian.

If blueface didn't mean it like that than I apologize but the way it reads it does sound like that.

No hard feelings here nor apology necessary but not sure what you are referring to when you say "the way it reads, it does sound like that" based on what you quoted.

I think you have me confused with another Blueface.
Above is my quote, followed by yours in response to mine.

jitzy

12-21-2010, 04:27 PM

No hard feelings here nor apology necessary but not sure what you are referring to when you say "the way it reads, it does sound like that" based on what you quoted.

I think you have me confused with another Blueface.
Above is my quote, followed by yours in response to mine.

Your right I had you confused with bobarian I'm sorry. ;s

Blueface

12-21-2010, 04:31 PM

Your right I had you confused with bobarian I'm sorry. ;s

Hey, it happens.
I am still trying to convince my wife that lady from last weekend that swears she knows me intimately was confusing me for someone else.:D

markem

12-21-2010, 04:43 PM

Not sure who is at fault but i do know that by placing and order on the site you risk your CC being compromised.

Dude. Reality check. Whenever you use your CC, in person or over the phone or electronically or via carrier pigeon (just to name a few), you risk compromise. For a specific circumstance with a specific card holder, the risks vary.

jitzy

12-21-2010, 04:43 PM

Hey, it happens.
I am still trying to convince my wife that lady from last weekend that swears she knows me intimately was confusing me for someone else.:D

Ya I really don't think thats gonna happen ;)

Starz26

12-21-2010, 07:23 PM

Dude. Reality check. Whenever you use your CC, in person or over the phone or electronically or via carrier pigeon (just to name a few), you risk compromise. For a specific circumstance with a specific card holder, the risks vary.

I guess I should have said "INCREASED RISK".

Dude reality check, do not take my comments out of context. this thread is not about an everyday purchase and an everyday vendor

T.G

12-21-2010, 07:29 PM

love all the kind words for passing along some good information.....

Well, for those that were not hit, please let us know when you are....will be interesting to see...

For those that do not see a connection with shnoop dot com (directly or indirectly) and the fraud, well as another poster said, you are clueless. Oh and if they really cared and were not involved they would respond to emails...

For those that think I do not know the risks of CC, well, again clueless....

Next time we see someone complaining about a Cigar Site shipping broken items, paying to much etc, maybe we should all just respond "You know the risks

I wonder if any of the fraudulent charges were for pie?