12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10

[AlohaStyle]

Wow, didn't see this thread taking this turn. Starz as well as myself have seen A LOT of BOTLs reporting their credit cards were compromised soon after making a purchase through Shnoop and is trying to get to the bottom of it. Sure there isn't much we can do as the credit card co's do a great job of making things right in today's world and we don't have any authority, but we sure as heck can contact all co's involved to see what, if anything, can be done to make sure it doesn't happen again.

I think most BOTLs understand credit cards can be compromised on any site as many of us buy online, but there are way too many BOTLs reporting fraud charges after buying from Shnoop that it would be crazy not to think there is a connection. Of course this may not be any fault of Shnoop, but it's connected somehow.

FYI... I emailed Shnoop again this evening with a couple other quotes of people who had fraud charges and this was their response:

Thank you for following up on this with us. We take all matters relating to privacy issues seriously and we certainly take heart with our customers who experienced fraudulent charges on their credit cards, as we understand that it can be an extremely frustrating experience. Shnoop.com does not store, access or retain any of our customer's credit card information. At this time, we are being advised by McAfee, which performs a daily security sweep on the site to determine if there are any vulnerabilities with the user pages, and that our site is Hacker Safe (https://www.mcafeesecure.com/RatingVerify?ref=www.shnoop.com). This, along with the requisite SSL encryption, are requirements that "PooPal" has for merchants to utilize their secure payment platform that we employ on our site. Nonetheless, we are taking additional precautionary measures by having a 3rd party data protection firm do a complete security audit on the server, to ensure that our server was always completely secure. We strongly urge and advise anyone who suspects that their credit card information has been compromised, to immediately contact their card issuing bank, which investigates such matters. Please don't hesitate to email us back if you have any further questions.

Regards,

The Shnoop Team

[icehog3]

I love how these people deny all possibilities that this could have happened in relation to our orders with them, when it is obvious what the truth is. Either they have their heads buried in the sand, or figure as long as they don't admit to anything, we will never be sure. Yeah, right.

[AlohaStyle]

Yeah, just trying to cover their asses legally...

[icehog3]

Yeah, just trying to cover their asses legally...

Deny, deny, demand proof.....The Rule of D's. :r

[T.G]

I think most BOTLs understand credit cards can be compromised on any site as many of us buy online, but there are way too many BOTLs reporting fraud charges after buying from Shnoop that it would be crazy not to think there is a connection. Of course this may not be any fault of Shnoop, but it's connected somehow.


I don't think you'll find too many, if any, people who will argue that it isn't somehow related to the purchases made that day from shnoop, the disconnect seems to be coming over the assertion that it was at shnoop where it occurred, possibly intentionally.

[AlohaStyle]

Not just BOTLs getting screwed:

http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?p=361842

And no I'm not a member there... :)

[shilala]

I love how these people deny all possibilities that this could have happened in relation to our orders with them, when it is obvious what the truth is. Either they have their heads buried in the sand, or figure as long as they don't admit to anything, we will never be sure. Yeah, right.
That's a little spooky. I suppose from their angle it's the only way they can go if they have no idea what happened. Isn't there law that if a credit card or personal information databank is hacked or otherwise compromised that the users have to be notified?
I supoose they're worried if they have to fess up and tell people it'll hurt business?

[Blueface]

Well, I just had the scare of my life.
I thought I had been hacked by this transaction also.
However, in my case, it turns out to be a more serious issue than what is on this thread.
Mine is a much more deep rooted evil that will be much tougher to fix.
Turns out it was the wife on a shopping spree.

[14holestogie]

Well, I just had the scare of my life.
I thought I had been hacked by this transaction also.
However, in my case, it turns out to be a more serious issue than what is on this thread.
Mine is a much more deep rooted evil that will be much tougher to fix.
Turns out it was the wife on a shopping spree.

:r

[Bunker]

Well, I just had the scare of my life.
I thought I had been hacked by this transaction also.
However, in my case, it turns out to be a more serious issue than what is on this thread.
Mine is a much more deep rooted evil that will be much tougher to fix.
Turns out it was the wife on a shopping spree.

Yeah, I just checked mine again and see a lot of things I wish I could claim as fraudulent charges but no such luck.

In my case I used Amex through my PP account which seems to be pretty bullet-proof.

[shilala]

Well, I just had the scare of my life.
I thought I had been hacked by this transaction also.
However, in my case, it turns out to be a more serious issue than what is on this thread.
Mine is a much more deep rooted evil that will be much tougher to fix.
Turns out it was the wife on a shopping spree.
That's gonna hurt. :sl

[shvictor]

These are some awesome lighters though. I like them better than the jet lites

[Skywalker]

Well, I just had the scare of my life.
I thought I had been hacked by this transaction also.
However, in my case, it turns out to be a more serious issue than what is on this thread.
Mine is a much more deep rooted evil that will be much tougher to fix.
Turns out it was the wife on a shopping spree.

Scary!!!:D

[stewshi]

I propose that we coin a new term, anytime your CC is compromised, "you've been Shnooped".

Well I was Schnooped .... they charged quite a lot from my AMEX card and I didnt get a call from AMEX about it so people should check their statements.

Charges on mine were from VIA World Bangaladore and were multiple charges. Like most fraudsters they did a test transaction on the 19th and then went for the full boat load on the 21st.

Called the CC and they are taking the charges off and sending me a new one.

[ripper]

My new VISA cards arrived via UPS overnight envelope today.
And a few details of the scams. A lowlife named William charged $516 to my card at a garden shop in New York. The only place in NY that had my CC numbers was Shnoop.
Then some idiot tried to buy airplane tickets in Saudi Arabia. And photography equipment online. Those transactions did not get processed.
VISA has been terrific through this hassle. Did not cost me a penny. Good service -- and this old Bart learned a lesson.

[kelmac07]

My new VISA cards arrived via UPS overnight envelope today.
And a few details of the scams. A lowlife named William charged $516 to my card at a garden shop in New York. The only place in NY that had my CC numbers was Shnoop.
Then some idiot tried to buy airplane tickets in Saudi Arabia. And photography equipment online. Those transactions did not get processed.
VISA has been terrific through this hassle. Did not cost me a penny. Good service -- and this old Bart learned a lesson.

Bart...glad to hear everything worked out brother!! :tu :tu Only hope everyone else effected by this scam comes out on top as well.

[Skywalker]

I was also Schnooped!!!:bh

Several fraudulent charges to my VISA, the largest being $3000!:mad:

[Hot Stuff x]

This Schnoop site is down for maintenance now by the way.

[Skywalker]

This Schnoop site is down for maintenance now by the way.


They probably had to regroup after my wife chewed a few a$$es!!!:tu

[icehog3]

I'm suprised AmEx Security isn't down for maintenance. ;)

[gvarsity]

So this was just an AmEX issue? I used a Visa had no problem that I know of. Had an issue recently unrelated and my cards fraud protection monitoring kicked in less than an hour from when the started making transactions. Whole thing resolved in less than a week. Good luck to those who had problems.

My lighters seem fine. I haven't tried them all but the ones I have tried were nice single torch lighters.

[Starz26]

So this was just an AmEX issue?

Nope, all type were hit if they did not use ******...

[smitdavi]

Got nailed for 400 from carribean airlines 3d ny. Used a visa btw

[stewshi]

Funny thing I saw an email from Schnoop last night and they had the Ronson deal up there again.

In fact if you go to the site right now the deal in is the lower right.

http://www.pennywise.biz/

[SSDVC]

I am going to try an order, but use pa**al.

[Blueface]

Still no fraud charges on my end.

[T.G]

I am going to try an order, but use pa**al.

You ought to be fine then since PP doesn't work the same as a CC. No numbers are sent to a processor, it all stays on PP.

In your Pennywise account "Orders" screen will read "Status: Processing" for, well, forever... but after a few days, you can click on the actual item description on the order screen page and you'll get a detail screen that has the order info and the UPS tracking number and status at the bottom of it. My Thursday order shipped out the next Monday.

[14holestogie]

Still no fraud charges on my end.

That's what I thought, too until receiving an invoice in the mail today from Apple with a different person's name and my address (in WI) and a ship to in Grand Canyon, AZ. No charges had yet to appear on my on-line tracking (as they were still pending), but the invoice was for $700. After an hour on the phone with Apple and another 20 minutes on the phone with Discover, the card has been canceled and is being replaced.

Stay diligent. It may not happen today or next week, but the odds are pretty good something will be attempted.

Got a name and addy if anyone's in the neighborhood with some neutering equipment. ;)

[croatan]

Just found out my Amex got hit...over a week ago. Yuck. Now I gotta figure out 1) whether my flight to NYC tomorrow will actually go and 2) if that flight makes, whether I can have a card sent to the hotel so I can use it to pay :bh

[Starz26]

Just found out my Amex got hit...over a week ago. Yuck. Now I gotta figure out 1) whether my flight to NYC tomorrow will actually go and 2) if that flight makes, whether I can have a card sent to the hotel so I can use it to pay :bh

Amex is real good about overnighting a new card, question is weather you call them in enough time to meet the UPS cut-off

[Blueface]

Well, finally hit my card today.
Bank picked it up right away and called me.
They were making charges in Italy for groceries and appliances.

Here is what really sucks and am trying to figure out.
They had my pertinent information to provide the bank for verification.
They knew my social and my date of birth.
That information was not provided to the website on the purchase.
There is something much bigger going on here where perhaps Visa was compromised.

[Blueface]

Just want to point out that while I have no concern right now as the bank has cancelled my card, credited by account, provided a free service for fraud protection for my credit report to address any activity on my behalf, and on and on, folks should note there is something much bigger here to potentially be concerned for, if you don't have the tools I have to protect me.

These folks got my social and date of birth.
The only way I know this is due to the bank requesting contact to verify personal information for the charges.
They made it partially through the system by providing my social and date of birth.

As you all know, that was not provided on the purchase to this vendor.
SO......clearly someone compromised serious security chit.
That means folks that think their only concern is to worry about some dumb charges on their card need to reconsider credit may be secured using their identity and a more serious issue of identity theft exists.

I highly recommend that at minimum, all call the following number and place a 90 day alert on their credit:
800-680-7289
You will be notified if any creditor is seeking to open an account.

I have always maintained credit monitoring via TransUnion for $15 a month. Well worth it and great for times like these.

[14holestogie]

Sorry about the hit, Carlos, but thanks for the heads up on the credit monitoring.

[Blueface]

Sorry about the hit, Carlos, but thanks for the heads up on the credit monitoring.

Just an hour or so of legwork.

What is wild here is how long it took for them to get to me.
That can only mean one thing, that list of theirs of folks to hit is very, very long.

[14holestogie]

Just an hour or so of legwork.

What is wild here is how long it took for them to get to me.
That can only mean one thing, that list of theirs of folks to hit is very, very long.

...and I believe they intend to hit the entire list.

[icehog3]

Just an hour or so of legwork.

What is wild here is how long it took for them to get to me.
That can only mean one thing, that list of theirs of folks to hit is very, very long.

Or perhaps this compromise is related to something other than the Ronson purchase, Carlos?

[Blueface]

Or perhaps this compromise is related to something other than the Ronson purchase, Carlos?

Absolutely could be Tom BUT, I am not a believer in coincidences like this.
Seems folks have been posting here gradually, with the same issue.
My charges came out of Italy. Seems all are having foreign charges too.
I think it just turns out my bank contacted me, knowing someone tried to make it via their system with my personal information and they stopped them in time.
I just wonder how many others have this same issue of personal information being secured but their bank never called them as mine did me or their bank did not have that confirmation process mine did.

[Starz26]

Now I will probably be scolded for this but...

I just think there is clearly insufficient evidence to conclude the vendor is at fault here and make that assertion.

I have yet to be charged anything other than $15 and just checked again to make sure.



Remember you said that and was why you responded to my post warning people about this and the connection to shnoop

At this point, you risk looking silly, vindictive, clueless, or maybe just like someone peed on your Cheerios. Dunno, but you've crossed the line of reasonableness.



Markem - Will you now say the same to Blueface? (see below)

Well, finally hit my card today.
Bank picked it up right away and called me.
They were making charges in Italy for groceries and appliances.

That information was not provided to the website on the purchase.
There is something much bigger going on here where perhaps Visa was compromised.

So you got hit - Too late to say I told ya so?

**In response to Tom's post about if you were sure it was due to the purchase on shnoop**

Absolutely could be Tom BUT, I am not a believer in coincidences like this.
Seems folks have been posting here gradually, with the same issue.


Wait, you were a believer in coincidences like this when I posted and you were not affected. Now you have been hit and with slightly different circumstances (SSN and DOB compromised but not given to shnoop) and now you are quick to say it was them and now you do not believe in coincidences??

Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......

[markem]

Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......

No, you said it was shnoop. Major difference. This just makes you look even more clueless.

[Blueface]

Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......

What I believe now, and have always believed, is this goes much further than a vendor.

Yes, now seeing that so many have been hit, and I too have, I no longer think it is a coincidence.
That in no way changes how I felt at the time this idea was originally posted and thereby don't feel any "in your face" feeling or "told you so" or whatever.
Simply, I too have now fallen victim.

While a victim, I don't see the sky falling or the end of the world though.
This is common.
This occurs every minute of the day.
I am well protected and all it took was a bit of time out of my day on the phone answering the bank's questions.

My point to post is to show I too was hit so therefore, as I said already, I now concur this is no coincidence as now there is sufficient evidence to impact ME.
My point is also there seems to be more than just charges. There is an issue here of identity theft, which goes much further beyond what was being discussed here until today.

Lastly, as Mark posts, our opposition to you was the statement that Schnoops did it. I don't believe that for a second but do believe there was a compromise of the system that accessed personal information that Schnoops NEVER got from me to perform the transaction.

[Blueface]

So you got hit - Too late to say I told ya so?



Not at all.

I don't disagree that it had to do with my transaction at Schoops.

Your post on here made me watch for charges daily.
The charges to my account took place today.
I think that is pretty fast to catch it.
Furthermore, let's be clear, even if you were Paul Revere, the British were coming. All you could do at that point is know they were coming. They still could not be stopped from coming.
These charges were going to take place whether you whistled Dixie or not.
However, I still do appreciate the advance warning. Just don't agree with you as to who is at fault.
My social and birth date came from Visa and not Schnoops.

[Skywalker]

12 Ronson lighters... $17

Airline tickets to Yemen... $3,000

This thread... Priceless!!!:D

[T.G]

12 Ronson lighters... $17

Airline tickets to Yemen... $3,000

This thread... Priceless!!!:D

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=511&pictureid=4325

[Skywalker]

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=511&pictureid=4325

:bx

[Starz26]

In all seriousness though, glad you caughtit and it was taken care of....

Just want to point out that while I have no concern right now as the bank has cancelled my card, credited by account, provided a free service for fraud protection for my credit report to address any activity on my behalf, and on and on, folks should note there is something much bigger here to potentially be concerned for, if you don't have the tools I have to protect me.

These folks got my social and date of birth.
The only way I know this is due to the bank requesting contact to verify personal information for the charges.
They made it partially through the system by providing my social and date of birth.

As you all know, that was not provided on the purchase to this vendor.
SO......clearly someone compromised serious security chit.
That means folks that think their only concern is to worry about some dumb charges on their card need to reconsider credit may be secured using their identity and a more serious issue of identity theft exists.

I highly recommend that at minimum, all call the following number and place a 90 day alert on their credit:
800-680-7289
You will be notified if any creditor is seeking to open an account.

I have always maintained credit monitoring via TransUnion for $15 a month. Well worth it and great for times like these.

[T.G]

:bx

http://www.coloradopowderforecast.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Bring-it-on.jpg

PS: Arganese cigars are poo-poo. So take that!

[Blueface]

In all seriousness though, glad you caughtit and it was taken care of....

Again, thanks for bringing light to it.

I would ask you let other you know elsewhere to be vigilant of possible credit cards being issued under their names, without their knowledge.

[Starz26]

My social and birth date came from Visa and not Schnoops.


That is an oddity... Is there a way to find out the same for others? Curious to see if this goes even further. Glad I subscribe to transunion as well.....

And I will pass this along to others so they can be on the lookout

[Don Fernando]

Now I will probably be scolded for this but...



Remember you said that and was why you responded to my post warning people about this and the connection to shnoop



Markem - Will you now say the same to Blueface? (see below)



So you got hit - Too late to say I told ya so?

**In response to Tom's post about if you were sure it was due to the purchase on shnoop**



Wait, you were a believer in coincidences like this when I posted and you were not affected. Now you have been hit and with slightly different circumstances (SSN and DOB compromised but not given to shnoop) and now you are quick to say it was them and now you do not believe in coincidences??

Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......

Dude, you really don't get what Carlos and Mark tried to explain to you before right? Their suspicion was confirmed, not yours

[Starz26]

No, you said it was shnoop. Major difference. This just makes you look even more clueless.


My original post:

FYI, if you ordered from this deal please watch your credit cards. Everyone I know over on the other forums that ordered this deal has had fradulant charges appear.

I Just got a call from Amex Fraud. Nailed for $3,000 charge to Luftansa and a 40.00 charge to Air asia.

Thankfully Amex is very good at detecting this stuff and stopped them in their tracks.

I have no doubt that the use of Schnoops was the culprit either through a direct fraud by the website or and indirect hacking into their database.

nuff said

[markem]

nuff said

Indeed, you are still wrong and you proved it.

[Starz26]

Dude, you really don't get what Carlos and Mark tried to explain to you before right? Their suspicion was confirmed, not yours

No I get it, they have an issue with me saying "it was" Shnoop's fault, problem is I did not say it was, read above.

And what suspicion was confirmed? That is was related to a hack on visa? What about MC, Amex, Discover? Also, icehog asked directly if it was related to the Ronson purchase and Blueface replied that he feels it was. So yea, I am confused at all the twisting and ignoring of words going on here.

Or perhaps this compromise is related to something other than the Ronson purchase, Carlos?

Absolutely could be Tom BUT, I am not a believer in coincidences like this.
Seems folks have been posting here gradually, with the same issue.
My charges came out of Italy. Seems all are having foreign charges too.
I think it just turns out my bank contacted me, knowing someone tried to make it via their system with my personal information and they stopped them in time.
I just wonder how many others have this same issue of personal information being secured but their bank never called them as mine did me or their bank did not have that confirmation process mine did.

[Starz26]

Indeed, you are still wrong and you proved it.

care to elaborate or do you just sit there and spout out bullshit?

[markem]

care to elaborate or do you just sit there and spout out bullshit?

I'm trying to emulate you. Go back, read ALL that you wrote, and think for a good long time. Doubt that will help you, however.

Maybe you can take this new information and prove to the authorities that you've solved the case once and for all! Again! :r

[Skywalker]

http://www.coloradopowderforecast.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Bring-it-on.jpg

PS: Arganese cigars are poo-poo. So take that!


:fu You're poo poo!

[T.G]

Who the frack cares where it happened?

It makes no fracking difference.

It's done. It's over. The numbers have been compromised. Nothing said here is going to change the past and likely have little to no bearing on any criminal investigation, if there even is one.

All one can do at this point is inform the other (cigar) forums that there now appears that there is a possibility that SSNs and DOBs might also have been compromised.


PS: Darrell, you're a doo-doo head!

[Don Fernando]

care to elaborate or do you just sit there and spout out bullshit?

yawn. Janitor, where is the 'ignore' button?

edit: found it

[14holestogie]

Rather than trying to find some small part of everyone's post we can argue about, wouldn't we be better served to find and concentrate on the parts we can agree on?

A lot of people that bought this deal have had their credit compromised.

I have no problem with semantics when someone is trying to warn me my house is on fire.

[stewshi]

back to the more important parts of this thread .... has anyone else confirmed with their CC that their SS and DOB was used to make purchases?

[hscmit]

this has taken a turn for the entertaining


obviously very sorry for those effected by id theft/ false charges on cc's

[jmsremax]

this has taken a turn for the entertaining


obviously very sorry for those effected by id theft/ false charges on cc's

:tpd:


I don't know why but anyways....I keep checking my accounts and so far so good **knock on wood** (I used play pal).

[Blueface]

That is an oddity... Is there a way to find out the same for others? Curious to see if this goes even further. Glad I subscribe to transunion as well.....

And I will pass this along to others so they can be on the lookout

This is the greatest feeling at times like these.

[Starz26]

This is the greatest feeling at times like these.

Does the number you posted lock all three or just transunion. A little concerned about the SSN and DOB thing as Amex will tell me nothing about the case except what charge was made.

[Starz26]

Rather than trying to find some small part of everyone's post we can argue about, wouldn't we be better served to find and concentrate on the parts we can agree on?

A lot of people that bought this deal have had their credit compromised.

I have no problem with semantics when someone is trying to warn me my house is on fire.

Point taken.
I realize that what I was thinking (which agrees with what everyone else is saying) may not have come across in what I wrote even if that is how I read it currently, so again, it does not matter....

But the name calling was a little over the top....and it shows the true character of those involved.....

[Blueface]

Does the number you posted lock all three or just transunion. A little concerned about the SSN and DOB thing as Amex will tell me nothing about the case except what charge was made.

The number I posted is for TransUnion, even if you don't have any monitoring with them.
Once you place the 90 day alert, they notify the two other bureaus.
It is a free service.

The Lock you see on that image is if you are a transunion subscriber, you can access your account and lock it, beyond the 90 day alert number I posted. It stays locked as long as you want to and you get an email if anyone attempts to pull your credit report or seek credit with your information.
Also, that lock applies to all three bureaus.

Both is the best most secure way to go.

Tell you what, at first, the thought of bogus charges on your card means little to me as has happened many times in my life and am protected from owing for them.
When I learned they had my social and dob for confirmation with the credit card company, that hit a whole new level and a much more serious one. Then again, just about everyone has that on me anyhow. Drs, Dentist, on and on and on. Just imaging how many can do this stuff on us.

[hotreds]

"I Just got a call from Amex Fraud. Nailed for $3,000 charge to Luftansa and a 40.00 charge to Air asia."

Damn, they're much cheaper in all areas, aren't they?!






;s

This whole thinks sucks big time! Glad I used poopail, guess they DO serve a purpose after all!

[bobarian]

As Carlos and Mark have stated several times, credit card fraud occurs daily to millions of people who make purchases both online and at regular retailers, restaurants and other places of business. No one has lost anything here. The charges never appear on your statement as they are flagged by the CC company. Replacement cards can be sent overnight if requested. Every time this happens, the retailer is blamed because that is our first point of contact. But in reality the breach is somewhere else in the system of electronic transactions. I can think of at least two other occasions that this has happened on this board, each time the retailer was mercilessly bashed with no evidence they were the cause. :2

[icehog3]

Just to clarify, I was not trying to cast any negativity of Carlos' original post about his compromise situation... I was just wondering if maybe his was different than the rest, as I hadn't seen any discussion of stolen Social Security numbers or the like by any of those previously compromised.

Two other things:

Bob makes a very valid point.

and

The namecalling is unnecessary in this or any thread, let's keep it on the topic and not personal, please.

[Skywalker]

PS: Darrell, you're a doo-doo head!


:sad

[Blueface]

Just to clarify, I was not trying to cast any negativity of Carlos' original post about his compromise situation... I was just wondering if maybe his was different than the rest, as I hadn't seen any discussion of stolen Social Security numbers or the like by any of those previously compromised.


Can't wait to hopefully smack you in person later in January.:r
I have to go back on this thread. Can't imagine anyone taking what you said in a wrong way.

[icehog3]

Can't wait to hopefully smack you in person later in January.:r
I have to go back on this thread. Can't imagine anyone taking what you said in a wrong way.

Nobody said anything negative (about that), I just wanted to clarify in case you thought I meant anything other than that :) .

[alley00p]

Nobody said anything negative (about that), I just wanted to clarify in case you thought I meant anything other than that :) .

Tom, I can't believe that I just sat spent an hour reading this entire thread from post #1 (which I saw, back on 12-09)... :r

I'm sorry that so many folks have had problems with their CC's and personal info. At least everyone got their merchandise.

I'm only glad that my wife used to pick up a couple of Jetlites, everytime she saw them while checking out at our local WalMart. So I didn't have order any of these from schnoop.

WOW! Who needs TV for drama? :D


:dance:
Charlie

[T.G]

I just received the lighters from the Pennywise deal that went on a week or after the Shnoop deal.

As if we didn't already know this, the shipper label on the package actually "Shnoop.com" as the sender.

The lighters seem to be about the same condition as described by most of the previous recipients. Although they used packing material - they dumped all of them and a blue base thing into a tyvek USPS priority envelope and dropped it in the box.

Even a piece of paper in the bottom of the box with a bunch of names with numbers next to them. Let's see... Carlos (V) 4382.... Eric (A) 3712.... Oh sweet. Anyone need some airline tickets?

[ripper]

It just continues.
When I did not receive a confirmation or shipping progress on my original Shnoop order of Dec. 9, I sent 2 email message in the span of 6 days. Received an email message 10 days later, that they were sorry my shipment never arrived and they would send another package of 12 lighters.
After receiving 12 Ronson Amero lighters, getting my VISA card hacked, closing the account, getting a new VISA card that I will never share with anyone except Famous Smoke Shop, CI and cigar.com, a box arrives yesterday with 12 more lighters from the Shnoopsters. And 11 of the lighters work.
At this rate, planning to build a wing on Casa de Ripper for all the Ronson lighters.

[Starz26]

Let's see... Carlos (V) 4382.... Eric (A) 3712.... Oh sweet. Anyone need some airline tickets?

LMAO....Now that is some funny chit

[MarioF]

Ok, so I just got charged for a 400 dollar pair of shoes someplace in Europe. Even though it's been a while I think everyone still needs to keep an eye on their accounts. It might be best just to have the cards blocked and new ones sent, because who knows when something might hit. My bank is great and I'll have the money back tomorrow.

[Skywalker]

I just received the lighters from the Pennywise deal that went on a week or after the Shnoop deal.

As if we didn't already know this, the shipper label on the package actually "Shnoop.com" as the sender.

The lighters seem to be about the same condition as described by most of the previous recipients. Although they used packing material - they dumped all of them and a blue base thing into a tyvek USPS priority envelope and dropped it in the box.

Even a piece of paper in the bottom of the box with a bunch of names with numbers next to them. Let's see... Carlos (V) 4382.... Eric (A) 3712.... Oh sweet. Anyone need some airline tickets?

:r:r:r