Weekly discussion for "Sons of Anarchy"

[Darrell]

This is the weekly discussion of the hit TV show. It's on Wednesday at 10pm EST on FX networks.

Please discuss this weeks episode, but refrain from posting spoilers until the DAY AFTER the show. Thanks. :tu

[Sean9689]

Can't wait until tomorrow night!

[Darrell]

Can't wait until tomorrow night!

****, me either bro. I look forward every week. :tu:tu

[gorob23]

the Lady who played April last week is the mom of my 3rd baseman. I asked her if the SOA could have fundraiser for baseball :tu yes I am a whore for my team :D

Rob

[icehog3]

Blade or fire?

[BengalMan]

This is by far one of my favorite shows!

On another note, anyone seen "Testees" on FX on Thursday nights?

I saw the 1st episode and laughed my ass off.

[FriskyDingo]

Definitely an awesome show! FX has some great shows, keep it up!

[GKitty]

There's a SOA Discussion thread?!?!?!?!

I knew I loved you guys for a reason.

Can't wait until tonight.

[Darrell]

There's a SOA Discussion thread?!?!?!?!

I knew I loved you guys for a reason.

Can't wait until tonight.

We made it just for you. ;)

[mugwump]

I have to avoid this thread until the weekend since the HD version doesn't appear in OnDemand until Thursday. It's worth the wait.

[GKitty]

So wait... Clay's got a heart?!?! WTF! I may have to pick a new fave tough guy.

Guess I'll have to wait until everyone else is awake to fully discuss this episode.

[loki]

knife + rad is something I would do lol

[Darrell]

Man, another great episode. :tu

Dumbass Prospect. :r

The next episode is going to be interesting, the plot thickens.

[Comicbookfreak]

Haven't seen this show yet. I will have to check it out. I think i can watch all the episodes on Demand with my cable company.

Growing up around bikers and having a good friend that's dad was a biker I am curious to see how this show portrays the biker lifestyle.

[SmokeyJoe]

Haven't seen this show yet. I will have to check it out. I think i can watch all the episodes on Demand with my cable company.

Growing up around bikers and having a good friend that's dad was a biker I am curious to see how this show portrays the biker lifestyle.

Very well done show... been impressed with the acting, considering the subject matter. :D

But as far as portraying bikers...? Probably sets them back a couple of decades.
Think Bikers = Hell's Angels.
Kinda sums it up.

[dmoby]

Good show tonight

[jkorp]

Great episode last night. I was happy to see Cone get his ass handed to him, what a puss.

[Mark C]

Crap! I forgot this was on last night! Gonna have to hit up On Demand tonight and catch up.

Personally I think the show is a bit cheesy, but it's friggin' awesome and I love it!

[BengalMan]

I have a feeling Jacks Dad was one of those bodies or near one of the bodies......

On another note, how the hell do you get this in HD!?

[Mark C]

On another note, how the hell do you get this in HD!?

Comcast OnDemand :D

[Darrell]

I have a feeling Jacks Dad was one of those bodies or near one of the bodies......

:tpd:

My thoughts exactly.

[GKitty]

I have a feeling Jacks Dad was one of those bodies or near one of the bodies......

I don't think it is. I agree that they might be beginning a thread that will eventually show what really happened to Jax's dad. However, Chibs was just way too sure when he said how many bodies they'd found. If there were others lying around, I don't think he would have been as confident.

[jkorp]

I don't think his dad was one of those bodies. Everyone knows he's dead, so I think his body's actually in the graveyard. I do think that Jax's dad was somehow hooked in with whatever Lowell Sr. was doing though.

[Genetic Defect]

:tpd:

My thoughts exactly.

:tpd:

[Ron1YY]

I have a feeling Jacks Dad was one of those bodies or near one of the bodies......

On another note, how the hell do you get this in HD!?

Nope. Remeber that Gemma and Jax were talking after the baby was born and she said that John was hit by a semi and lived a few days after.

Now, What cause him to get hit is another story. Being on bikes and around the outlaw biker scene, there is NO Way you can tell me that your attention occupied to the point that you head first into a truck.......


Ron

[jkorp]

Nope. Remeber that Gemma and Jax were talking after the baby was born and she said that John was hit by a semi and lived a few days after.

Now, What cause him to get hit is another story. Being on bikes and around the outlaw biker scene, there is NO Way you can tell me that your attention occupied to the point that you head first into a truck.......


Ron

Yup.

Damn these night time soap operas, can't wait until the next episode. :D

[SonsofClubDeck]

As if the name doesn't say enough, this is my favorite thing on Wednesday nights right behind my "Ole Well Society" herf at Campbell University. If anyone just happens to live close enough to Buies Creek feel free to PM me to watch the show and enjoy a smoke with some great guys.

SOA makes me feel like a badass just by watching.

[GKitty]

It's Wednesday!!! YipppeeE!!!

[Ron1YY]

This week is stacked up to be a great one!!!!!



Ron

[GKitty]

I love Kip! That prospect keeps me amused.

[loki]

WOW! what an instalment this week...WOW

[SonsofClubDeck]

no words can describe last night....

(thats what she...nevermind.)

[GKitty]

Has everyone watched?? Am I allowed to start talking about spoiler type stuff?

[loki]

the ending didn't do anything for me...it really was a let down

[GKitty]

i agree that the ending was weak, but then again the setup for next week's episode had already been accomplished.

I'm kinda disappointed in the way the whole Jax/Tara thing is evolving. Totally predictable and a bit of a let down really.

[loki]

I'm kinda disappointed in the way the whole Jax/Tara thing is evolving. Totally predictable and a bit of a let down really.

ya this is what i had a problem with. they could have atleast given us some sideboob

[SmokeyJoe]

Yup.

Damn these night time soap operas, can't wait until the next episode. :D

Oh NO! I REFUSE to call this a soap opera (my wife would tease me mercilessly). :r

It is a "Masculine Drama." ;)
(An answer to the Lifetime Network?) :D

[GKitty]

It is a "Masculine Drama." ;)

Call it what you need to feel comfortable.. I call it delightful.

Wednesday has become my official "TV Night". I don't know what I'm going to do when the season's over.

[icehog3]

I'm kinda disappointed in the way the whole Jax/Tara thing is evolving. Totally predictable and a bit of a let down really.

Jax is a man. Nuff said. ;)

[GKitty]

Jax is a man. Nuff said. ;)

I don't think it's him I'm dissappointed in. I don't like her for some reason.

[icehog3]

I don't think it's him I'm dissappointed in. I don't like her for some reason.

Don't ladies dig the bad boys? ;)

[Genetic Defect]

Anyway watching lastnights episode :)

[dmoby]

I have never wanted to (F) a chick next to a dead body, not that I have been in that situation to many times...

[Sean9689]

Things are starting to heat up and I'm liking the show even more! :tu

[Ron1YY]

Last night sets the show to go a few ways

does Jax leave with her

Does she come into the fold with the club

where does the club head with the blood bath that is about to begin

[Genetic Defect]

I think she will get Jax killed.

[Ron1YY]

Maybe, but it definately refutes what Tig said to Clay

[Genetic Defect]

I don't like Tig.

[icehog3]

I have never wanted to (F) a chick next to a dead body, not that I have been in that situation to many times...

It's the whole "harrowing experience" thing that messes with adrenaline, and then libido. Though I haven't had this particular situation, it is like going skydiving with a girl, then feeling amorous. ;)


I don't like Tig.

I do...he is a whackjob! :r

[Genetic Defect]

It's the whole "harrowing experience" thing that messes with adrenaline, and then libido. Though I haven't had this particular situation, it is like going skydiving with a girl, then feeling amorous. ;)




I do...he is a whackjob! :r

:r I knew there was a reason you keep me around

[icehog3]

:r I knew there was a reason you keep me around

:tu :r :r

[SonsofClubDeck]

Shot him in the face.

[SmokeyJoe]

I don't like Tig.

I don't trust his character... push comes to shove he seems bent on covering his own arse.

Of course, I saw him recently playing a scum bag on CSI: Miami - that could color my perception. ;)

[jkorp]

the ending didn't do anything for me...it really was a let down

i agree that the ending was weak, but then again the setup for next week's episode had already been accomplished.

I'm kinda disappointed in the way the whole Jax/Tara thing is evolving. Totally predictable and a bit of a let down really.

Yeah not a bad episode, but the ending was a real let down. It definitely felt to me like they were trying use that "shock" value. Knocking boots next to a corpse, with a hole in his head? Come on. They really could have milked Cone for a lot more in the plot.

Oh NO! I REFUSE to call this a soap opera (my wife would tease me mercilessly). :r

It is a "Masculine Drama." ;)
(An answer to the Lifetime Network?) :D

Fair enough :D

[SmokeyJoe]

Yeah not a bad episode, but the ending was a real let down. It definitely felt to me like they were trying use that "shock" value. Knocking boots next to a corpse, with a hole in his head? Come on. They really could have milked Cone for a lot more in the plot...

Really weird! Just sick... :ss

Now the Mayan war looks to be getting nasty! :fl

[Ron1YY]

Has anyone noticed that Opie has come back into the fold since Jax talked to Donna???

[icehog3]

Has anyone noticed that Opie has come back into the fold since Jax talked to Donna???

Looks like Donna took the talk to heart. :tu

[GKitty]

Who's ready for war?

[Gophernut]

Who's ready for war?
I can't wait! It should be a fun episode!

[Ron1YY]

I can't wait!!!!! All the previews and spoilers say this will be a KICK AZZ episode!!!!!!

[SonsofClubDeck]

I'm going to enjoy a Chisel and let this episode take me where ever it wants.

[lenguamor]

I'm loving this series. Good replacement for The Shield on my "need for vicarious violence" nights.

[Gophernut]

I'm loving this series. Good replacement for The Shield on my "need for vicarious violence" nights.

That's a perfect description of why I love these two shows! :salute:

[GKitty]

Rawr!! I want to talk about it!!!

[lenguamor]

Good episode. I'll refrain from spoilers, but...kind of a copout the way things ended up.

[Ron1YY]

There were some interesting twists in this episode, but overall, I was kind of disappointed the way it played out.....

[icehog3]

It will all come to a head again, there will be some double-crossing and triple-crossing. But if they kill ALL the bad guys in season 1, there might not be a season 2. ;)

[SonsofClubDeck]

"This is why I beat hookers."

[icehog3]

"This is why I beat hookers."

Too funny! :r

[GKitty]

"This is why I beat hookers."

Some really great lines in this episode. I rather preferred the lead in to this one.

"Why do you give me such a hard time?"

"It's in my nature. I'm a giver."

Agreed that this episode was kind of a letdown, at least as far as my "need for vicarious violence" goes. I was hoping for WAR and got shenanigans. (Going to have to make time to watch Troy & 300 now.)

[SonsofClubDeck]

Well as much as I'd much rather see all out war going down, this does open up doors for it down the road. Clay's actions seem to be a lot more like Jackson's and with the club always ready to get dirty, I see a split coming up. And I see Tig killing someone with his bare hands.

[jkorp]

....

Now the Mayan war looks to be getting nasty! :fl

Perhaps not, or at least not yet.

Looks like Donna took the talk to heart. :tu

Doesn't seem that way now.

[icehog3]

Doesn't seem that way now.

How quickly they turn.... ;)

[Ron1YY]

It will all come to a head again, there will be some double-crossing and triple-crossing. But if they kill ALL the bad guys in season 1, there might not be a season 2. ;)

FX already signed for 13 episodes for season 2

[icehog3]

FX already signed for 13 episodes for season 2

Sweet Sassy Molassey!! :D

Thanks for the info, Ron!~ :ss

[Ron1YY]

How quickly they turn.... ;)

that was another twist in this episode. Remember, Clay sent Bobby to check out how Opie was going to handle the job, And Bobby told Jax this just before they went to work......



Bobby had to close the deal

[Genetic Defect]

watching it now :ss

[jkorp]

How quickly they turn.... ;)

So true.

that was another twist in this episode. Remember, Clay sent Bobby to check out how Opie was going to handle the job, And Bobby told Jax this just before they went to work......



Bobby had to close the deal

Yeah, and it looked like Bobby gave Clay the nod that Opie did the deed. Did I read it wrong or did Bobby just cover his arse.

[Ron1YY]

Yeah!!! Looked that way to me too

[Ron1YY]

Look at it from this angle too, Jax and Opie Literally grew up in the club. As the sons of the 2 founding members, I see them never turning their back on the club, but mostly, the club Always taking care of those 2 more than any other.

They ARE the 2nd Generation SAMCRO

[jkorp]

Look at it from this angle too, Jax and Opie Literally grew up in the club. As the sons of the 2 founding members, I see them never turning their back on the club, but mostly, the club Always taking care of those 2 more than any other.

They ARE the 2nd Generation SAMCRO

True, though Piney looked like he could snap Jax's neck a few episodes ago.

[Ron1YY]

True, though Piney looked like he could snap Jax's neck a few episodes ago.

Quite true...

Never underestimate a Combat Vet, As old as we will get, and as broken as we could be, We've climbed the mountain and seen the elephant........

[lenguamor]

What disappointed me was the gross misread of Latin culture in the writing of the Mayan boss.

For any father of any culture to voluntarily have his own son murdered - in his own arms - is unthinkable.

For a Latino dad - unimaginable.

[Gophernut]

What disappointed me was the gross misread of Latin culture in the writing of the Mayan boss.

For any father of any culture to voluntarily have his own son murdered - in his own arms - is unthinkable.

For a Latino dad - unimaginable.

I agree. I had to watch the scene in the jail cell twice just to make sure that is where they were going. I guess they are trying to say that it's MC family over blood relation. That seems like a stretch, but I've never been in a MC.

[loki]

What disappointed me was the gross misread of Latin culture in the writing of the Mayan boss.

For any father of any culture to voluntarily have his own son murdered - in his own arms - is unthinkable.

For a Latino dad - unimaginable.

i understand where you are coming from but dude, it's a tv show. don't take it so literally

[SmokeyJoe]

that was another twist in this episode. Remember, Clay sent Bobby to check out how Opie was going to handle the job, And Bobby told Jax this just before they went to work......



Bobby had to close the deal

Yeah... but did it seem to you that Bobby gave kind of an "he did OK" look to Clay? Maybe I just misread it...

And with the Mayan offering up his son... odd. Guess he was that disappointed in his failure - and needed to act on it to keep face with the rest of the Mayans. Certainly should keep them in line - "If he was willing to do that to his own son...".

This show is amazing! :tu

[Gophernut]

Yeah... but did it seem to you that Bobby gave kind of an "he did OK" look to Clay? Maybe I just misread it...

That's the way I read it too. He covered his a$$ for him.

[Darrell]

I love this show, but I found last weeks episode to be a bit dry. I hope it's leading up to something big. :tu

[SmokeyJoe]

Some folks don't understand the SAMCRO reference to the club. :ss

This answers that question:

What does "Sam Crow" mean?
Sam Crow (actually, SAMCRO) stands for "Sons of Anarchy Motorcyle Club Redwood Original". This is in reference to their being an original, or charter member of the Sons of Anarchy motorcycle club.

[SmokeyJoe]

Don't want to spoil nothin' but...

Otto and the ATF Agent Stahl ... Holy Crap!!! :D

[SonsofClubDeck]

I think she got a bit of head at the end.

[Ron1YY]

Don't want to spoil nothin' but...

Otto and the ATF Agent Stahl ... Holy Crap!!! :D

Oh HELL YEAH!!!!!! Cherry wasn't bad either!!!!!!

[jkorp]

Hell yeah, great episode. The ATF chick it trying to play the game like a man and couldn't hang, lol. "Unscrew that penis".

This was a very good show. This look to really be heating up. I don't envy Opie.

[Darrell]

I think Opie is the weak link in the chain. I have a feeling it's going to get broken. I also think that they need to kill Cherry, as soon as she said she was going to snitch in there. I don't care if it's jail or not, she knows better.

Also, Otto ****ed Agent Stahl up BAD. Her face was looking bad. :tu

Next weeks episode looks good, this show is getting better with each episode. :tu

[Demented]

What disappointed me was the gross misread of Latin culture in the writing of the Mayan boss.

1 percenters have their own culture, laws and rules.

Punishment when a member breaks the rules, fails a task, or acts in a manner that defames the club can be anything from a swat at the hands of the Sargent at Arms (think cricket bat) to a beating by the members of the chapter you ride with or worse.

There is no Boss so to speak.

There's the President, Vice President, Secretary-Treasurer, Sargent/Master at Arms, Road Captain and from club to club I'm sure there may very well be other officers.

A chapters officers are nominated and elected by the members in good standing of that chapter, and answer to said members for their actions and decisions, even God (the President).

I'm surprised the depiction of this fictional club is as accurate as it is, compared to the inner workings of some real clubs.

The thing to remember... It's fiction, it's drama and it's about ratings.

[Ken]

OK, maybe I'm the oddball out here, but I would have been happy to switch seats with either Otto or Deputy Hale. :D

[Demented]

Cherry... she said she was going to snitch...

The SA really are a kinder, gentler motor cycle club.

I didn't think cherry was going to leave the jail, let alone get on that truck the next day.

[Gophernut]

The SA really are a kinder, gentler motor cycle club.

I didn't think cherry was going to leave the jail, let alone get on that truck the next day.

Neither did I, but I still wonder if she'll make it over the Canadian border.

[Ken]

Neither did I, but I still wonder if she'll make it over the Canadian border.
I think a pit stop is in her near future.:hn

[Ron1YY]

Neither did I, but I still wonder if she'll make it over the Canadian border.

I think a pit stop is in her near future.:hn

I'm with you both on that point. Remember that they have Happy driving ;)

[GKitty]

Just got to see the latest episode. It's been so hard to stay away from this thread all week.

Great Episode! I freakin love Gemma!

I can't believe Jax took Cherry out of jail.

I can't believe Otto pounced on Stahl like that.

And Hale has been a bad bad boy.

Can't wait until Wednesday.

[Darrell]

Can't wait until Wednesday.

:tpd:

I don't look forward to many shows.

[jkorp]

:tpd:

I don't look forward to many shows.

Yeah, this and Testees are probably tops in my book. Fox has really put out some good shows.

[mugwump]

I fell behind on this and caught up last night by watching the last four episodes back to back. By the end of the fourth one it was 2:30AM and I had been enjoying a bottle of Bushmills so now I have to rewatch it since I can't for the life of me remember what happened. Whoops!

[Ron1YY]

This week is set to be an AWESOME episode!!!! Talk to all of you in the daylight!!!!

[Genetic Defect]

This week is set to be an AWESOME episode!!!! Talk to all of you in the daylight!!!!

Until tomorrow :salute:

[jkorp]

Another great episode. I hadn't noticed before that they use a Partagas dress box for the cell phone collection.

Hopefully Piney and Jax can keep Opie safe. Stahl is looking rough from her meeting with that table top, good look for her.

[Ron1YY]

I think Hale is going to come through for Opie.

It was one hell of a great episode.

[GKitty]

Good episode, I'll probably watch it again on Sunday just to make sure I didn't miss anything.

I'm totally PO'd about the crap Stahl is pulling. I do love to hate her though.

And it looks like Donna got the message after all and has made her decision. I'm pretty proud of her for that.

[Darrell]

Man, Stahl is seriously stirring up some ****. She is going to cost Opie his life if someone does not come through and say that he is telling the truth, though it's not going to be Hale. Clay won't believe Hale, he hates Hale.

This is such a great show. :tu

[Genetic Defect]

I think Hale will play arole in ousting the real eye witness, can we have another epissode where stahl gets whooped again

[Ron1YY]

Unfortunately, there is only 2 more episodes this season :mad:

BUT, They are signed for 13 more on season 2 :tu

As far as things look, Hale really wasn't down with the way Stahl was hanging Opie out there. Hale knows how things work, in general, with the crew. I doubt he is willing to have a 187 in his town. And he does know who the real witness is.......

[Darrell]

unfortunately, there is only 2 more episodes this season :mad:

But, they are signed for 13 more on season 2 :tu

as far as things look, hale really wasn't down with the way stahl was hanging opie out there. Hale knows how things work, in general, with the crew. I doubt he is willing to have a 187 in his town. And he does know who the real witness is.......

Only 2 more episodes??? Noooooooooooooooooo!

[Ron1YY]

Only 2 more episodes??? Noooooooooooooooooo!

Sadly, yes. This is the part of the FX Network that I absolutely hate, the short split season for great shows. They do it with all of their 10:00 shows, The Shield, Rescue Me, Nip Tuck, Sons of Anarchy, Sunny in Philadelphia.

Right when things are kicking, BOOM, end of the season :fl

[SmokeyJoe]

Unfortunately, there is only 2 more episodes this season :mad:

BUT, They are signed for 13 more on season 2 :tu

As far as things look, Hale really wasn't down with the way Stahl was hanging Opie out there. Hale knows how things work, in general, with the crew. I doubt he is willing to have a 187 in his town. And he does know who the real witness is.......

Yeah... I agree, Ron. If Hale reaches out to Jax, Jax would definitely believe him.... and convince Clay, I think. Tig is a wildcard, though.

Man! This show is compelling. :D

[Ron1YY]

Yeah... I agree, Ron. If Hale reaches out to Jax, Jax would definitely believe him.... and convince Clay, I think. Tig is a wildcard, though.

Man! This show is compelling. :D

I'm thinking more that he is going to go to Uncer, as he knows how close he is to the club and Clay especially.

Now here's a thought, Hale said he was old friends of Tara, Tara and Jax were an item back then, and Jax has Hale's number in his cell phone, Question here is, were they all friends when they were in school.........

[jkorp]

I'm thinking more that he is going to go to Uncer, as he knows how close he is to the club and Clay especially.

Now here's a thought, Hale said he was old friends of Tara, Tara and Jax were an item back then, and Jax has Hale's number in his cell phone, Question here is, were they all friends when they were in school.........

hmm.....

[Mark C]

I think Hale will play arole in ousting the real eye witness

What I don't understand is why the club hasn't figured it out yet. They shot the guy when he was leaving the girl's apartment after a roll in the sheets. So they must know she was there at the time, why haven't they considered that she saw something before, during, or after the shots?

[Genetic Defect]

What I don't understand is why the club hasn't figured it out yet. They shot the guy when he was leaving the girl's apartment after a roll in the sheets. So they must know she was there at the time, why haven't they considered that she saw something before, during, or after the shots?

maybe they don't know that, they are from Cali :r
plus it builds the drama:):tu

[Gophernut]

maybe they don't know that, they are from Cali :r
plus it builds the drama:):tu

They are doing a he!! of a job doing that! This show is just getting better and better.
I hope Gemma is gonna be able to get back at Stahl for the little kick in the ribs before the season ends.

[GKitty]

I hope Gemma is gonna be able to get back at Stahl for the little kick in the ribs before the season ends.

That would be a serious cat fight... and I want ringside seats.

[Ron1YY]

Can't wait for tonight!!!!!! Should be a crazy episode!!!!!!!

[icehog3]

Can't wait for tonight!!!!!! Should be a crazy episode!!!!!!!

I'm just bummed the season is almost over!

[Darrell]

I'm just bummed the season is almost over!

I am with you, Admiral. I think we only got 13 episodes. That sucks. :mad:

[icehog3]

I am with you, Admiral. I think we only got 13 episodes. That sucks. :mad:

That's FX....great shows, but short seasons, Darrell.

[Redbaron]

I will be sad if they kill Opie, feel bad for the guy, he's truly torn.

[SonsofClubDeck]

i think we need a re-what to do on wednesday nights-ilization course in this thread after this season is over.

[Darrell]

That's FX....great shows, but short seasons, Darrell.

Sad, but true my friend. :(

[Ron1YY]

Holy Shite!!!!!!!!

[rack04]

I'm really regretting not getting into this series. Might have to rent the DVD when it comes out. Seems right up my alley.

[GKitty]

Holy... omg... really?!?!... OMG!!!!


Of course, we all knew they'd crank it up for the season finale, but oh my wow... yeah... didn't see that coming.


Hope you're all watching.

[loki]

http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/eek2.gif < my only response

[BarneyBandMan]

Wow!!---gotta love that kind of thing---next week should be pretty good.......

[SmokeyJoe]

It has REALLY hit the fan now... and the coming confrontation between Tig and Jax will be nothing short of epic. Feel bad for how everyhting went down, though.

Really thought what Opie did in the warehouse would change things and opinions. Surprised it was so short lived. :ss

[Ron1YY]

Holy... omg... really?!?!... OMG!!!!


Of course, we all knew they'd crank it up for the season finale, but oh my wow... yeah... didn't see that coming.


Hope you're all watching.

By the time we saw it coming, it was already happening!!!!!

It has REALLY hit the fan now... and the coming confrontation between Tig and Jax will be nothing short of epic. Feel bad for how everyhting went down, though.

Really thought what Opie did in the warehouse would change things and opinions. Surprised it was so short lived. :ss

I'll comment more on this tomorrow

[SmokeyJoe]

By the time we saw it coming, it was already happening!!!!!



I'll comment more on this tomorrow

Looking forward to your comments, bro! :D

[Gophernut]

It has REALLY hit the fan now... and the coming confrontation between Tig and Jax will be nothing short of epic. Feel bad for how everyhting went down, though.

Really thought what Opie did in the warehouse would change things and opinions. Surprised it was so short lived. :ss

By the time we saw it coming, it was already happening!!!!!

I completely agree. Tig is trying to take the club in his direction. I wonder if this will change his relationship with Clay. He has had his ear up until this. Wow that was an incredible episode.

[Darrell]

Wow, just wow. Tig ****ed up bad this time.

I have a feeling that Jax is going to kill Tig and I don't blame him a bit.

Did anyone notice at the end when it was showing each character that Tig was bleeding from the head? I wonder what happened?

Next weeks episode being the season finale, should be 90 minutes.

I CAN'T WAIT!

[Gophernut]

Did anyone notice at the end when it was showing each character that Tig was bleeding from the head? I wonder what happened?
I noticed that, and watched it a couple of times. The best I can figure is that when they were showing some of the other guys in the clubhouse, I thought I heard a smash. When they showed him, the mirror he was looking at looked like it was broken. I think he head butted the mirror because he didn't like the reflection at that point.

[Darrell]

I noticed that, and watched it a couple of times. The best I can figure is that when they were showing some of the other guys in the clubhouse, I thought I heard a smash. When they showed him, the mirror he was looking at looked like it was broken. I think he head butted the mirror because he didn't like the reflection at that point.

I was kind of thinking that as well, though I never heard the crash.

Whose black Range Rover was that anyway? Tig walked up and opened it and drove off, in a small town like Charming -- people notice the guy who owns the black $80,000 SUV with the chrome wheels.

I liked how Hale knocked out that ATF Agent, that was sick.

I really hope Jax kills Tig, though I doubt he will.

"Make it ghetto, make it gangsta" was one of the WORST lines ever. :r

[Genetic Defect]

I don't like Tig.

:D

[Darrell]

I don't like Tig.

I am with you there Perry. That dude wants all the WRONG stuff for the club.

[Genetic Defect]

I am with you there Perry. That dude wants all the WRONG stuff for the club.

he would be missing already if this was to follow reality. I'm just glad my instincts seemed right about him.

[Darrell]

he would be missing already if this was to follow reality. I'm just glad my instincts seemed right about him.

Yeah, I had the same thoughts. I knew from the start he was a hot head and if Clay does not "dispose" of him, especially after his latest indiscretion -- then the club is going to suffer. :2

[Genetic Defect]

Yeah, I had the same thoughts. I knew from the start he was a hot head and if Clay does not "dispose" of him, especially after his latest indiscretion -- then the club is going to suffer. :2

how about the chicks, anyway to me he was to quick to pass judgment and doubt a club brother.

[Darrell]

how about the chicks, anyway to me he was to quick to pass judgment and doubt a club brother.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the chicks. :r

He's a slime ball and cannot be trusted. Judging by the ads for next week, he and Jax are going to throw down at least a little. I foresee this being Tig's only season on the show. :2

[Genetic Defect]

Oh yeah, I forgot about the chicks. :r

He's a slime ball and cannot be trusted. Judging by the ads for next week, he and Jax are going to throw down at least a little. I foresee this being Tig's only season on the show. :2

but killing of Jax has more juice. talk about a freaking rift

[Darrell]

but killing of Jax has more juice. talk about a freaking rift

That won't happen. I guarantee it.

[Genetic Defect]

That won't happen. I guarantee it.

:r I love commercials

[GKitty]

That won't happen. I guarantee it.

I hate when I have to agree with Darrell, but in this case, I must.

Ain't gonna happen.

[Genetic Defect]

I hate when I have to agree with Darrell, but in this case, I must.

Ain't gonna happen.

you have a different reason for saying it then Darrell :r

[Darrell]

I hate when I have to agree with Darrell, but in this case, I must.

Hater. :tg

[SmokeyJoe]

LOVED Hale's beatdown on that sycophant ATF Agent... and Darrell is right (as usual! :D ) - Jax is gonna bring the pain to Tig - and only one will walk away.

Bye, Tig. ;)

Appreciate the explanation on Tig's bloody forehead - I missed the mirror crash, I guess.

Question is - where will Clay come out on this? He is as culpable as Tig - how far will Jax's rage go?! Big confrontations coming.

Be interesting to see what happens with Opie's character too... is he hollowed out inside, or will he become the most hardcore of the bunch, driven by a seething hatred and desire for revenge? Wow... :ss

[Genetic Defect]

:confused: where did I say they were going to kill Jax?

[Darrell]

Question is - where will Clay come out on this? He is as culpable as Tig - how far will Jax's rage go?! Big confrontations coming.

I wonder man. I know things will be ugly, but Jax won't kill Clay and vice versa. It's too early in the show to kill off 2 of the most influential main characters. I think Jax will kill Tig and confront Clay and Clay will act as if Tig acted without his permission, since the only 2 who knew about it were Tig and Clay and with Tig in the ground, whose to question it?

All speculation of course. :2

[Genetic Defect]

I wonder man. I know things will be ugly, but Jax won't kill Clay and vice versa. It's too early in the show to kill off 2 of the most influential main characters. I think Jax will kill Tig and confront Clay and Clay will act as if Tig acted without his permission, since the only 2 who knew about it were Tig and Clay and with Tig in the ground, whose to question it?

All speculation of course. :2

I'm saying anything, you are right :tg

[Darrell]

I'm saying anything, you are right :tg

:r

What are you griping about now?

[Genetic Defect]

:r

What are you griping about now?

:hm is there enough server space to tell you:r

[Darrell]

:hm is there enough server space to tell you:r

What do YOU think is going to happen, Perry?

[Genetic Defect]

What do YOU think is going to happen, Perry?

I wonder man. I know things will be ugly, but Jax won't kill Clay and vice versa. It's too early in the show to kill off 2 of the most influential main characters. I think Jax will kill Tig and confront Clay and Clay will act as if Tig acted without his permission, since the only 2 who knew about it were Tig and Clay and with Tig in the ground, whose to question it?
:D now we both are right :dance:

[SmokeyJoe]

I wonder man. I know things will be ugly, but Jax won't kill Clay and vice versa. It's too early in the show to kill off 2 of the most influential main characters. I think Jax will kill Tig and confront Clay and Clay will act as if Tig acted without his permission, since the only 2 who knew about it were Tig and Clay and with Tig in the ground, whose to question it?

All speculation of course. :2

I wonder man. I know things will be ugly, but Jax won't kill Clay and vice versa. It's too early in the show to kill off 2 of the most influential main characters. I think Jax will kill Tig and confront Clay and Clay will act as if Tig acted without his permission, since the only 2 who knew about it were Tig and Clay and with Tig in the ground, whose to question it?
:D now we both are right :dance:

Great minds think alike.... :ss

So... which is the REAL Darrell? You know, you can get a time-out for one person trying to sign-up using two accounts. :r

[Ron1YY]

Here is how I think it will play out.

Tigg and Jax will throw down and HARD.

Clay knows he is in a bad spot. He finds out where the witness is for Bobby.

To keep him self clear of all this, He sends Tigg to do the deed.

Tigg gets it done, but gets smoke checked by the feds as he does this.(Clay stays in the clear).

Opie turns inward and becomes a very dark and violent character. Becomes the Sgt. of Arms for SAMCRO(Ironically, taking over Tigg's place)

Either the end of this season, or beginning of next, Clay makes moves to step down and sit at the table to advise Jax.

From there(If it plays out that way) I can't figure any further.

[Genetic Defect]

Here is how I think it will play out.

Tigg and Jax will throw down and HARD.

Clay knows he is in a bad spot. He finds out where the witness is for Bobby.

To keep him self clear of all this, He sends Tigg to do the deed.

Tigg gets it done, but gets smoke checked by the feds as he does this.(Clay stays in the clear).

Opie turns inward and becomes a very dark and violent character. Becomes the Sgt. of Arms for SAMCRO(Ironically, taking over Tigg's place)

Either the end of this season, or beginning of next, Clay makes moves to step down and sit at the table to advise Jax.

From there(If it plays out that way) I can't figure any further.

Darrell is right

[Ken]

This is going to get nasty and I'm not talking about the dirty with Jax's wife. I'm kind of disappointed with his decision with the ladies, but I believe that is a clear indication of the direction he's going.

[icehog3]

I really hope Jax kills Tig, though I doubt he will.



I really hope not...I think a character like Tig adds to the show, and I would miss him if he was gone.

Maybe that gives you all some insight into my sick, twisted mind. :r


Glad I finally got around to seeing the new episode last night, it was killing me to not open this thread!

[jkorp]

Killer episode. It was just so well done, from the opening scenes of the SAMCRO world waking, to the end of the show as the sunset.

I don't think Tig will be killed off yet, his character is to valuable to the story. I think Jax and him will hit hard, but in the end both alive. I don't know about Clay stepping down yet. He is driven, and hooked on selling guns. I can't see him handing over the throne yet.

I think Jax very well could kill Clay, especially if he finds out that he was behind Donna's death, and possibly his fathers. You can see the tension between them already, constantly butting heads.

One things for sure, Clay sure screwed the pooch in many ways now. Got double crossed by the Niners and I'm sure the peace with the Mayans is fragile if not gone. The rifts he just created with the Donna incident I think will solidify Jax's intent on taking SAMCRO in another direction.

Going to be good next week and next seasons.

[Ken]

I think Jax very well could kill Clay, especially if he finds out that he was behind Donna's death, and possibly his fathers.
Umm, I don't think Clay killed Jax's father. Maybe Clay killed the guy that Jax's knew as his father, but not his father. Following me here! In one of the early episodes his mother told Clay, "Jax might be following in the wrong fathers footsteps", when Jax pulled out the journals and started questioning the gun running. That quote might not be verbatim, but darn close.

[icehog3]

Umm, I don't think Clay killed Jax's father. Maybe Clay killed the guy that Jax's knew as his father, but not his father. Following me here! In one of the early episodes his mother told Clay, "Jax might be following in the wrong fathers footsteps", when Jax pulled out the journals and started questioning the gun running. That quote might not be verbatim, but darn close.

I thought she was implying that Clay was also a "father" to Jax. :confused:

[Mark C]

I thought she was implying that Clay was also a "father" to Jax. :confused:

That's how I took it, though it wouldn't be hard to make a case for the other interpretation.

I agree that episode was particularly well done, kinda reminded me of the last Soprano's episode. Definitely going to be interesting to see where this goes. It's almost like they're getting ready to split the club in half.

But on the other hand, I still don't think the whole 'Opie is a rat' thing was too plausible. If he was the rat, he had more than enough info to lockup the club, and the feds would have had no reason to throw him back onto the streets. Just the fact that he WAS on the streets should have been enough to keep him alive, maybe at most put him in a SAMCRO lockdown of some sort.

[Ken]

I thought she was implying that Clay was also a "father" to Jax. :confused:
I betting they had an affair and Clay is the biological father. If Clay actually killed him then that would make a pretty good reason for doing so.

[jkorp]

I thought she was implying that Clay was also a "father" to Jax. :confused:
:tpd:

I doubt that Clay is his father. Why keep the secret? I took it as Clay has been the real and only father figure in his life, for most of his life.

I betting they had an affair and Clay is the biological father. If Clay actually killed him then that would make a pretty good reason for doing so.

I think Clay killed Jax's father because he wanted to take the club a different direction, just as Jax does. I'm guessing that what ever went on created a big rift between him and Clay, that did not end well. Clay is a straight up Outlaw, 1% through and through. He doens't even want to consider earning legit.

[Darrell]

:tpd:

I doubt that Clay is his father. Why keep the secret? I took it as Clay has been the real and only father figure in his life, for most of his life.

That is what I was thinking.

[Ron1YY]

Ok, Here we go!!!!! I'm hoping for better than last night :tu

[Darrell]

Ok, Here we go!!!!! I'm hoping for better than last night :tu

x2, brother. :tu

[icehog3]

Ok, Here we go!!!!! I'm hoping for better than last night :tu

Well, what did you think? :D

[Ron1YY]

Well, what did you think? :D

It was a great ending to the season and left all kinds of posiblities for season 2.

With the seeming knowledge that Clay is going to step down soon, And Jax making a statement to Tigg physically, Season 2 is going to Rock!!!!

Don't want to say too much incase people didn't catch it last night

[SmokeyJoe]

Enjoyed last night's episode... and it left me wanting more - as it should. Really not sure how the fight resolved anything... just a message, perhaps? And knowing that THEY know that HE knows ( :r ) really makes me wonder how they will deal with it.

Will there be a change in leadership? And if so, how can they do it without it becoming bloody? With Bobby "Elvis" knowing the truth - where will his loyalties lie? What will Gemma do?

Piney showed some old-school cojones and I thought that scene at the end with Jax was a nice set-up for next season. This show is my favorite! :ss

[Ron1YY]

Really not sure how the fight resolved anything... just a message, perhaps?

Piney showed some old-school cojones and I thought that scene at the end with Jax was a nice set-up for next season. This show is my favorite! :ss

I think the message Jax got across was that HE will run the club soon, and that Tigg WILL respect him and his decisions. He also made a point that things CAN be done without killing. As the sign and his father said "Brains before Bullets"

Piney Showed that Old School Bikers and Vets are NOT to be messed with and WILL do what they see as necessary.

Great Show and Great episode!!!! the B!tch part is the long @zz wait until next season

[Genetic Defect]

the world clay knows is tumbling down.

[Ron1YY]

the world clay knows is tumbling down.

I'd say the world Gemma knows is crumbling. 3 things to point that out.

1. Tara gave Jax his CUT at the funeral and he made a point to show everyone there who he wants to be with Including Gemma.

2. The scene with Gemma and Clay when she told him to be the man they expect, and as he walked away, Gemma said something like "Just like John".

3. The look on her face at the end when they saw Jax with the envelope standing in front of the grave.

[Genetic Defect]

The world they both built may implode, and when am original says it's time for change that's huge. Can't wait for season two now :bh

[Ron1YY]

The world they both built may implode, and when am original says it's time for change that's huge. Can't wait for season two now :bh

That's what I'm talking about Bro!!!!!!!

[Darrell]

This was a great season finale, IMO.

I really cannot wait for the next season.

I think Clay's reign is going to come to an end next season and their is going to be a mutiny with Jax as the leader. You know Piney and Opie will follow Jax, I have a feeling that Chibs and the guy with the head tattoos will as well.

Since The Shield is over, this is my favorite show. :tu

[Genetic Defect]

Darrell is right :D

[SonsofClubDeck]

really enjoyed this last episode. as many have said, there are so many open doors for the next season. did anyone else catch that the homeless girl was the one from an earlier episode? i can't wait for the next season. i think i'm going to go fight someone now.

[Genetic Defect]

really enjoyed this last episode. as many have said, there are so many open doors for the next season. did anyone else catch that the homeless girl was the one from an earlier episode? i can't wait for the next season. i think i'm going to go fight someone now.

that is Jax sister :r

[SonsofClubDeck]

that is Jax sister :r

oh wow. what if?????? good catch on that one. we'll see what happens.

[Genetic Defect]

oh wow. what if?????? good catch on that one. we'll see what happens.

I don't know if it is his sister but it adds to the mystery

[Darrell]

Darrell is right :D

:r

Thanks Perry.

[jkorp]

Great friggin episode!

I don't know.... As much as we'd all like to see Jax take the lead, I don't think it will lend to the show to well.

"SOA, an MC that earns legit and doesn't get dirty anymore." Doesn't sound like a show that will pick up a 3rd season.

I think what ever is going to happen, Clay will be around for a long time. I could be dead wrong, but it just seems that way. Now I do think things are going to get REAL hot this next season.

As for Tig, he got his ass beat, but I don't think it was enough to line him up with Jax yet. Bobby, that is an interesting twist. You could tell we was hurt bad, and knows what really happened. I think what ever his feelings are, he'll fall in line if Clay says so.


When does the next season start :c

[Mark C]

"SOA, an MC that earns legit and doesn't get dirty anymore." Doesn't sound like a show that will pick up a 3rd season.


I think you're right, but a show describing the Jax's struggles of trying to make the club legit, while coping with internal power struggles, skeletons from the past, and external enemies could be pretty interesting.

They've done a good job of making Jax a likeable character, I think next season we'll see him have to deal with a lot of crap that lands at his doorstep. I'm guessing he'll find himself and SAMCRO stuck between a rock and a hard place, and as much as he'd like to stay legit, the alternative may be the only way to survive. The old 'good guy, bad situation' kind of story.

[BarneyBandMan]

Yeah---SoA needs to keep its edge (meaning Jax struggles with the idea of a legit club while Mayans and Niners and trying-to-keep-it-together Clay storylines make it virtually impossible).

And what of a legit club? I don't think many want to watch the trials and travails of a local garage shop dealing with the weighty issues of overpriced plugs and EPA oil-disposal-fines. Tony Soprano working the local distributors for the best fuel prices for his trash trucks? Naahh...

Oh, and btw--I'm now flipping on some Kanye. Why? Those Nip/Tuck trailers during the commercials. The theme song always playing. Da*n I like that song they are playing. My daughter let me know on Thursday that its a Kanye song. Been playing it over and over....

[GKitty]

I've been waiting since Wednesday to get caught up on this episode and even with all that anticipation, I was still not disappointed.

This was a great season finale. I agree with most of the theories and conjectures you guys have made.

Big question is now: When's the next season?

[icehog3]

I've been waiting since Wednesday to get caught up on this episode and even with all that anticipation, I was still not disappointed.

This was a great season finale. I agree with most of the theories and conjectures you guys have made.

Big question is now: When's the next season?

Summer 2009. :bh

[GKitty]

Summer 2009. :bh

crap-tastic... guess I'll have to find something else to amuse me until then.

[SmokeyJoe]

crap-tastic... guess I'll have to find something else to amuse me until then.

Last few episodes on Hulu... maybe reruns? :(

I will miss the show too. :ss

[Gophernut]

Summer 2009. :bh
NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!:bh:bh:bh

[Flatsix]

Day late and a dollar short.

I watched what I found out to be the last show of the season:bh.

This looks like a great series, hopefully I can do some catch up until next season. Looks like there was 12 episodes in all, I'm sure that FX will run them in reruns.

[SonsofClubDeck]

my room mates and I are watching Nacho Libre and cooking up some Mexican to try to fill in the gaping hole that SOA left in our Wednesday nights. I know we're all trying to make it through til' next summer. I believe we can do it together.

[Darrell]

Jesus NOTHING GOOD is on T.V. right now. :(

[SmokeyJoe]

man... I miss this show. :(

[thetpi825]

Me and my roomates LOVE this show. Can't wait till next summer.

[icehog3]

Me and my roomates LOVE this show. Can't wait till next summer.

With so many great shows ending the last couple years (The Shield, The Wire, Sopranos, Deadwood, etc), is there a better show on TV right now? If there is, I don't know what it is.

[Darrell]

With so many great shows ending the last couple years (The Shield, The Wire, Sopranos, Deadwood, etc), is there a better show on TV right now? If there is, I don't know what it is.

Nope, their is not. All the other good shows are gone. A distant memory. :(

[Gophernut]

With so many great shows ending the last couple years (The Shield, The Wire, Sopranos, Deadwood, etc), is there a better show on TV right now? If there is, I don't know what it is.
Not at the moment. I think Rescue Me starts up here pretty soon, then there will be. Other than that, I don't think so.

[SmokeyJoe]

Couldn't stop myself...

Went to Amazon.com and bought the digital downloads... full season for $22.

Wife says I am buried in the computer. :D

I watched the whole season in two days. :tu

[Darrell]

Couldn't stop myself...

Went to Amazon.com and bought the digital downloads... full season for $22.

Wife says I am buried in the computer. :D

I watched thoe whole season in two days. :tu

The DVD's come out soon, I think. I'm all over that. Sons and Dexter are the only new seasons I am looking forward to watching.

[SmokeyJoe]

Hey Darrell!

Couldn't wait for the DVDs... I am pathetic. :r

Like your sig line... would look nice on a leather "cut." :tu

[Darrell]

Hey Darrell!

Couldn't wait for the DVDs... I am pathetic. :r

Like your sig line... would look nice on a leather "cut." :tu

:r

Yeah it would be pretty awesome, until the Hells Angels beat me up or shot at me. :r

[SmokeyJoe]

:r

Yeah it would be pretty awesome, until the Hells Angels beat me up or shot at me. :r

Whaaaaaaatttt? Bikers live in San Jose? Say it ain't so!!!! ;) :r

Besides, I thought that was "Mayan" territory. :D

[icehog3]

I watched the whole season in two days. :tu

Great show, eh Joe? :D :tu

[SmokeyJoe]

Great show, eh Joe? :D :tu


No doubt... the final show of the season, "The Revelator," really has me chomping at the bit for next season. The battle for the leadership and direction of the club will be epic!

Picked up several small points that I missed the first time around... especially the early shows. Nicely done, FX. :tu

[icehog3]

Is it Septmeber yet? :D

[dunng]

:tt

[SonsofClubDeck]

Welcome back, Sons!