*2010 MLB Thread*

[Starscream]

that's cuz griffey never got caught with roids....MLB loves to pump the roid ragers in the media.....

As much as the media jumps all over the "roiders", you would think they would have put a special emphasis on Griffey's chase to 600. It went almost unnoticed. I guess that's what a legend gets for not playing for a big market team.

[3SmokesaRound]

Go Giants!

[kelmac07]

Mets drop another game in extra innings! :td :td

[BigAsh]

BREAKING NEWS
Multiple media outlets are reporting that Astros RHP Roy Oswalt will approve a trade to the Phillies.

Nice!! :tu

[VirtualSmitty]

BREAKING NEWS
Multiple media outlets are reporting that Astros RHP Roy Oswalt will approve a trade to the Phillies.

Nice!! :tu

Meh, they shoulda just kept Lee. He's better :2

[The Poet]

O's have hired Buck Showalter to manage their team to another gawd-awful season.

[BigAsh]

Meh, they shoulda just kept Lee. He's better :2

No argument there...But they didn't....Oswalt give them a pretty nice top 3...They're swingin' the bats pretty good now too....

[kelmac07]

Here's to hoping the Braves CAVE IN!! Otherwise, my Mets will have no chance to make the playoffs. :td

[VirtualSmitty]

Looks like Austin Kearns and Lance Berkman will both be in pinstripes soon.

[kelmac07]

Looks like Austin Kearns and Lance Berkman will both be in pinstripes soon.

Done...and Kerry Wood. :confused: :confused: What is Wood gonna do for them? Be King of the DL? :r :r

[3SmokesaRound]

Wish the Giants would have brought in Downs, but at least they got lefty bullpen help. I'm almost happy they didn't bring in another bat, because their chemistry hasn't been better all season and they are as deep as any team in the majors. Someone new is winning almost every game for them, and their pitching is still solid. Go Giants!!

[kelmac07]

And the Mets get....

NOBODY!!! :td :td

Let's see if this seals Minayas fate...and job!!!

[Superbad]

You guys might be the right audience for this question. Why does MLB not have a standard field size? It seems advantageous to play for a team who has a shorter distance to the back wall. Over time you would get more home runs.

[3SmokesaRound]

And the Mets get....

NOBODY!!! :td :td

Let's see if this seals Minayas fate...and job!!!

Yeah, he was stuck between a rock and a hard place. Too far out to justify a move and then not make the playoffs. There's always next year Mac :tu

[kelmac07]

You guys might be the right audience for this question. Why does MLB not have a standard field size? It seems advantageous to play for a team who has a shorter distance to the back wall. Over time you would get more home runs.

Bobby...GREAT question. However, I have no answer. Might wanna ask a Yankees fan...318 down the right field line. Citifield is HUGE and we still can't keep opposing batters from taking us deep (but we can't seem to hit it out). :td

[Superbad]

Bobby...GREAT question. However, I have no answer. Might wanna ask a Yankees fan...318 down the right field line. Citifield is HUGE and we still can't keep opposing batters from taking us deep (but we can't seem to hit it our). :td

Exactly. Btw my wife was a mets fan growing up. She is a big rays fan now that we have a home team.

[3SmokesaRound]

Bobby...GREAT question. However, I have no answer. Might wanna ask a Yankees fan...318 down the right field line. Citifield is HUGE and we still can't keep opposing batters from taking us deep (but we can't seem to hit it our). :td

AT&T is one of the toughest places to hit HR's, especially to right center and RF too. If Bonds played in the Evil Empire stadium he would have hit 1000 HR's.

I would agree that it would make sense to have regulational dimensions of a ballpark, but that is also what kind of makes different ballparks unique. However, one could also bring up the arguement that different elevations, wind patterns, temperature etc. all factor into how far a ball travels. I don't see it ever happening.

[Superbad]

Exactly. Btw my wife was a mets fan growing up. She is a big rays fan now that we have a home team.

She wanted to add that she hates the Yankees!

[kelmac07]

She wanted to add that she hates the Yankees!

I like her already Bobby!! :D

[VirtualSmitty]

Exactly. Btw my wife was a mets fan growing up. She is a big rays fan now that we have a home team.

The Rays have fans? Jeez, judging by the last two games it looked like most of the crowd were Yanks fans :D

[kelmac07]

Oh...and when will Arod hit #600????








WHO CARES!!!! :r :r :r :r

[Superbad]

The Rays have fans? Jeez, judging by the last two games it looked like most of the crowd were Yanks fans :D

Too many transplants down here in FL. They never give up their original home teams. We had season tickets to the Tampa Bay Lightning for 11years. Everytime the Red Wings came to town, more red in the stands than anything. You would have sworn it was a game in Detroit. I was born in Detroit but I wore my lightning stuff, and rooted for the lightning.

[MedicCook]

Oh...and when will Arod hit #600????








WHO CARES!!!! :r :r :r :r

Who's this A-Rod you speak of?

[VirtualSmitty]

So with the non waiver trade deadline over and the flurry of moves that occurred the last few days, who is everyones picks for winners and losers? My thoughts:

Biggest Winners

The Rangers. I still can't believe how active they have been. Player gets hurt, get another one. Lee, Cantu, Guzman, and Molina? They making a serious push.

The Yankees. Not much to say here. Best team in baseball got better with Berkman as the new DH, Wood taking Parks spot (anyone would be an upgrade over him), and Kearns off the bench.

The Dodgers. They certainly got a bit better. Rotation help with Lilly, bullpen help with Dotel, bench help with Podsednik, and a pretty serviceable second baseman in Theriot.

Biggest Losers

The Giants. So much pitching, one of the few teams that could have moved a big league starter and a few prospects without any ill effects for a big bat like Adam Dunn and they failed to do so. San Diego got a little better, the Dodgers got quite a bit better, the Giants did nothing but add two middle relievers. Because pitching is such a problem there.

The White Sox. Only because GM Ken Williams was so vocal and so confident he was gonna land that big bat they needed so badly. First we heard that he was confident he was going to have either Prince Fielder or Adam Dunn for sure. Neither of those worked out. Then a last minute deal for Lance Berkman who canned it because he didn't want to play there. The end result? Williams did nothing.

The Rays. They have an awesome team team. They play good baseball, and they have to because they have some big name free agents who they probably aren't going to resign. Odds are next year they aren't going to be as good. So this is their year to make that push. Ownership talked about how willing they were to increase payroll temporarily to get that extra bat they needed in that lineup. And they did make a move. They picked up struggling Dbacks former closer Chad Qualls who has been nothing short of awful this season. Not what I expected.

So have at it. Who did you think made out big and who got burned?

[Starscream]

A-Rod hits 600...


:td

[The Poet]

A-Rod hits 600...


:td

OK, I understand you don't like the guy . . . hell, I don't like him much either . . . but is that really the proper response? Give the man some props for being the youngest to hit 600, at least for one day anyway.


Just my :2 , and worth every penny.

[kelmac07]

Way to go A-Fraud!!! :D

[Starscream]

OK, I understand you don't like the guy . . . hell, I don't like him much either . . . but is that really the proper response? Give the man some props for being the youngest to hit 600, at least for one day anyway.


Just my :2 , and worth every penny.

Does it really count if 300+ (I just threw a number out at random) of them were with steroids?

[The Poet]

Way to go A-Fraud!!! :D

I just read an interesting column by Jeff Passan on Yahoo Sports re this matter, and it appears that he himself does not even know where to stand on this issue. For instance, he says nobody will blink when A-Rod hits 610 to surpass Sammy Sosa (who not only juiced, but corked to boot), but may react differently when #631 sails him past Junior. Then he contrasts A-Rod's fessing-up to the ludicrous denials of Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, and Manny, and gives him some credit on that score. The bottom line seemed to be that Jeff could not pick a bottom line.

That's pretty much the way I feel too. But nevertheless, I am willing to give him his day in the sun.

[The Poet]

Does it really count if 300+ (I just threw a number out at random) of them were with steroids?

Andy, no offense, but that "300+" figure is just silly, and you know it. I seriously doubt if the number that was "juiced" is as much as 30. He tested positive while in Texas, where he hit, over 3 seasons, 156 total. With his swing, most of those would have gone out anyway. Like I keep saying, it is OK to not like the guy. But be fair . . . the man would have hit 600 anyway, juice or not.

[Starscream]

I just read an interesting column by Jeff Passan on Yahoo Sports re this matter, and it appears that he himself does not even know where to stand on this issue. For instance, he says nobody will blink when A-Rod hits 610 to surpass Sammy Sosa (who not only juiced, but corked to boot), but may react differently when #631 sails him past Junior. Then he contrasts A-Rod's fessing-up to the ludicrous denials of Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, and Manny, and gives him some credit on that score. The bottom line seemed to be that Jeff could not pick a bottom line.

That's pretty much the way I feel too. But nevertheless, I am willing to give him his day in the sun.
That's my problem with it. I'm not a big hater of PEDs in sports (they're not good, but not as evil as everyone makes them out to be, but that's another issue for another day), but when major milestones are made by those who blatantly cheat, it takes away from the true greats like Jr., Aaron, Ruth, and Gehrig. When (if) Jeter overtakes Pete Rose for the all-time hits record I will be a bit sad but will definitely cheer Jeter for his accomplishment. Jeter is a class act and there are many in baseball like him (stand-up guys). Unfortunately, baseball has turned into a sport that caters to guys like A-Rod and Manny.

[The Poet]

Now THAT I cannot argue with, my brother.

[Starscream]

Congrats to Jeter for surpassing Ruth on the all-time hit list!

[The Poet]

Congrats to Jeter for surpassing Ruth on the all-time hit list!

And for handling it with typical Jeterian aplomb. Love the Yanks or hate them, you can't deny Jeets is a class act.

[Starscream]

And for handling it with typical Jeterian aplomb. Love the Yanks or hate them, you can't deny Jeets is a class act.

Amen to that. He's one to never want to take credit for anything. He's all about team.:tu

[The Poet]

Seattle Mariners just fired Don Wakamatsu as mis-manager.

[Starscream]

Seattle Mariners just fired Don Wakamatsu as mis-manager.

Who's interim?

[The Poet]

Daren Brown, from 3A Tacoma.

[The Poet]

It has been announced that Joe Torre, present manager of the LA Dodgers, will retire at the end of this season. He will be replaced by the man who made me a Yankee fan . . . the one and only Donnie Baseball, Don Mattingly.

Though Torre now plans to remain an advisor with the Dodgers, he has yet to rule out the possibility that he might manage again. Are you listening, Mac? Your Mets don't seem to have much of one at the moment, although they do have a more glaring need for a GM . . . and a few players. :D

[kelmac07]

It has been announced that Joe Torre, present manager of the LA Dodgers, will retire at the end of this season. He will be replaced by the man who made me a Yankee fan . . . the one and only Donnie Baseball, Don Mattingly.

Though Torre now plans to remain an advisor with the Dodgers, he has yet to rule out the possibility that he might manage again. Are you listening, Mac? Your Mets don't seem to have much of one at the moment, although they do have a more glaring need for a GM . . . and a few players. :D

I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you :r :r :r :r

[The Poet]

I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you I can't hear you :r :r :r :r

I can still remember the headlines in the New York tabloids back when the Yankees hired Torre, when they called him "Clueless Joe". :r

[MedicCook]

Yankees Win!!!

Rays Lost!!!

Red Sox Lost!!!

Yankees back in 1st place!!!

[VirtualSmitty]

Yankees Win!!!

Rays Lost!!!

Red Sox Lost!!!

Yankees back in 1st place!!!

Yeah, good night. Quite the finish too, think A-Rod will get to 30 hrs this year?

[MedicCook]

Yeah, good night. Quite the finish too, think A-Rod will get to 30 hrs this year?

He seems to be finding a groove the last couple days.

[VirtualSmitty]

He seems to be finding a groove the last couple days.

Yeah, five dingers in two weeks doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.

[The Poet]

Yeah, five dingers in two weeks doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.

He has a decent shot anyway.

[kelmac07]

AFraud will finish with 29!! :D

[The Poet]

AFraud will finish with 29!! :D

Or roughly, as far behind as are the Mets. :r

[VirtualSmitty]

AFraud will finish with 29!! :D

You gone and done it now Mac, now he is gonna finish with forty :r

[kelmac07]

Or roughly, as far behind as are the Mets. :r

Ouch!! :D

You gone and done it now Mac, now he is gonna finish with forty :r

Probably so!! :r :r

[Starscream]

Looks like the White Sox and Adam Dunn have worked out a deal. I hope for Sox fans sake that the use him solely in the DH spot. He's perhaps the worst defensive player in the game.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Looks like the White Sox and Adam Dunn have worked out a deal. I hope for Sox fans sake that the use him solely in the DH spot. He's perhaps the worst defensive player in the game.

Yeah they signed Dunn. I'm happy about it, it helps with our need of bigger bats. It also looks like they will not be bringing Bobby Jenks back.

[CRIMPS]

Seems like a decent fit for Chicago. Dunn is uber consistent. I would have liked the Rangers to look at him, but I didn't see him fitting into the lineup.

Bobby Jenks is interesting... Im keeping an eye on him.

[Darrell]

Hey guys, in case you forgot...

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/16900000/World-Series-Champions-2010-san-francisco-giants-16950909-612-631.jpg

:D

[CRIMPS]

Damn you... :bh

[MedicCook]

They are going to be taking the trophy to Troy NY next year. How many SF fan's knew that their team originally started in Troy NY the home of Uncle Sam?

[VirtualSmitty]

Looks like Boston has all but banged up a deal for Adrian Gonzalez. So now they finally have a first baseman almost as good as Teixera ;)

[kelmac07]

Looks like Boston has all but banged up a deal for Adrian Gonzalez. So now they finally have a first baseman almost as good as Teixera ;)

But who are they giving up for him???

[VirtualSmitty]

But who are they giving up for him???

Three prospects plus a player to be named later.

[VirtualSmitty]

Well interesting day so far. Lance Berkman to the Cardinals (he sucks now, have with that Cards fans), looks like Adrian Gonzalez isn't going to beantown after all, and perhaps the most stunning news is Jayson Werth appears to have signed with the Nats!

Color me surprised :confused:

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Konerko will be with the Sox next year:D
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101208&content_id=16279452&vkey=news_cws&c_id=cws

:noon:noon

[VirtualSmitty]

Konerko will be with the Sox next year:D
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101208&content_id=16279452&vkey=news_cws&c_id=cws

:noon:noon

Solid punch with him and Dunn hitting back to back. Their pen has taken a hit though, gonna need to work on that. This has actually been a really good winter meeting, it's getting me excited for baseball again!

Who else is surprised the Nats of all teams are spending money? First Werth and his mega deal (good move I think) and rumors floating around they offered Lee an even bigger contract than the Yankees!

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Solid punch with him and Dunn hitting back to back. Their pen has taken a hit though, gonna need to work on that. This has actually been a really good winter meeting, it's getting me excited for baseball again!

Who else is surprised the Nats of all teams are spending money? First Werth and his mega deal (good move I think) and rumors floating around they offered Lee an even bigger contract than the Yankees!

Nats gave Werth a heck of a deal IMO. They are after Lee now? Yeah I am surprised.

[VirtualSmitty]

Nats gave Werth a heck of a deal IMO. They are after Lee now? Yeah I am surprised.

They sure did. I think it was a big win for them, they over payed for sure, but it shows that they are serious about spending some money and improving their club. Reminds me a little of what Dombroski did with the tigers in 05-06, signing some big free agents, building some talent in the minors, and getting out of the basement. They probably won't get Lee, but the fact that they are trying is a good sign for Nats fans.

Nothing too major yesterday or today. Pena to the Cubs (with that amazing .196 BA lol), Frenchy to the Royals, Putz to the D-Backs, Olsen, Carrera, and Diaz to the Bucs.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

I hope the Sox can build the bullpen this offseason too. That's an area where they need help. The starting 5 should be great, if healthy.

[MedicCook]

Red Sox get Crawford.

[Bunker]

Concluding one of the most stunning weeks in team history, the Sox late last night agreed to a contract with free agent outfielder Carl Crawford, according to a source with knowledge of the discussions.

The deal is for seven years and $142 million. It was first reported by the Globe


:noon

[VirtualSmitty]

Red Sox get Crawford.

Ugh, that sucks.

[Bunker]

Ugh, that sucks.

Only for the occupants of the Deathstar :D

[VirtualSmitty]

Only for the occupants of the Deathstar :D

Well, if we do land Lee everything will even out. Offenses will be about the same between the two teams, but Lee would give NY an advantage in the starting rotation for sure :tu

[Bunker]

Well, if we do land Lee everything will even out. Offenses will be about the same between the two teams, but Lee would give NY an advantage in the starting rotation for sure :tu

Maybe, if he and Sabathia can pitch every game :r

[Starscream]

These big mega-deals are pissing me off. How's a small market team supposed to compete anymore if they can only afford one or two big time players?:rolleyes:

[kelmac07]

Red Sox are looking good.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Red Sox are looking good.

I think the White ones are looking better:r

[VirtualSmitty]

Maybe, if he and Sabathia can pitch every game :r

Hughes is money and maybe Pettite will come back. Then we would only need one more starter :r

[VirtualSmitty]

Well, looks like the Phillies resigned Cliff Lee. I'm surprised, and boy did the Phillies just get a whole lot better. Halladay, Lee, Oswalt, Hamels, and Blanton? Ouch!

[MedicCook]

They got him pretty cheap also. 5 years $100M.

[VirtualSmitty]

They got him pretty cheap also. 5 years $100M.

They sure did. I'm shocked as hell to be honest. Hope the Yankees have some contingency plans, cause if Andy retires we are really in trouble pitching wise.

[MedicCook]

It sounds like they are going to put it into the bullpen now. They are concerned with Greinke and his ability to handle New York so they probably won't go that direction. Now they really need Pettitte to play 1 more year.

[VirtualSmitty]

It sounds like they are going to put it into the bullpen now. They are concerned with Greinke and his ability to handle New York so they probably won't go that direction. Now they really need Pettitte to play 1 more year.

Greinke is a problem with that anxiety disorder. During the winter meetings Cashman said he had some surprising things in the works, here's hoping it wasn't all BS.

[MedicCook]

They wanted to resign Kerry Wood and are looking at Russell Martin & Harriston Jr.

[VirtualSmitty]

They wanted to resign Kerry Wood and are looking at Russell Martin & Harriston Jr.

Wood is a good sign, but Martin seems silly when we have such depth in our minor league system, and Harriston is just going to be off the bench. Not exactly impact moves lol.

[MedicCook]

Martin was signed this morning as the starting catcher for the Yankees.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Wood is a good sign, but Martin seems silly when we have such depth in our minor league system, and Harriston is just going to be off the bench. Not exactly impact moves lol.

Did Wood sign with the Yanks?

[scoot]

Its most likely that the Phillies will deal out Blanton somewhere in the near future. They're over budget and the 8 million or so a year that moving Blanton frees up would ease the Phil's finances a bit. Also I think the deal was 5 years $120 million. Regardless of the amount, he took considerably less money to come back to Philadelphia which will make him one of the most beloved sports figures in Philadelphia history.(barring bad performance, of course)

[MedicCook]

Did Wood sign with the Yanks?

Not yet.

[MedicCook]

Its most likely that the Phillies will deal out Blanton somewhere in the near future. They're over budget and the 8 million or so a year that moving Blanton frees up would ease the Phil's finances a bit. Also I think the deal was 5 years $120 million. Regardless of the amount, he took considerably less money to come back to Philadelphia which will make him one of the most beloved sports figures in Philadelphia history.(barring bad performance, of course)

The original report last night was $100M. This morning they said $120M. It is smart for Lee to go back to the NL. It makes him an even better pitcher facing thinner lineups. Philly has a a great team right now.

[ChicagoWhiteSox]

Not yet.

The White Sox will take him if you guys won't:D

[VirtualSmitty]

Did Wood sign with the Yanks?

Nope, so far the only signing today is just a declining catcher coming off a broken hip injury. I'm so excited to have Martin :rolleyes:

[Bunker]

Nope, so far the only signing today is just a declining catcher coming off a broken hip injury. I'm so excited to have Martin :rolleyes:

Apparently Cashman decided he had to at least sign someone the Red Sox had talked about :D

[VirtualSmitty]

Apparently Cashman decided he had to at least sign someone the Red Sox had talked about :D

:r So true. On the plus side, he is better than anything Boston has to throw out to catch. I guess thats something :rolleyes:

[kelmac07]

Just made Philly TOUGH!!! :td

[MedicCook]

Just made Philly TOUGH!!! :td

Just made the Mets playing for the wild card if they are lucky.

[kelmac07]

Just made the Mets playing for the wild card if they are lucky.

Hell Ryan...we're gonna be lucky to win 50 games with the group they are assembling together. :D

[MedicCook]

The Mets will win at least 60 games. :tu

[VirtualSmitty]

Well, the Yanks might have missed out on Lee but they did address their gaping hole in the starting rotation by signing Mark Prior. Remember him :r

[MedicCook]

Well, the Yanks might have missed out on Lee but they did address their gaping hole in the starting rotation by signing Mark Prior. Remember him :r

I actually like this signing. It is a minor league deal with a spring training invite. The Yankees have no downside in this pick up.

[MedicCook]

Cleveland Indians great and Hall of Fame pitcher Bob Feller died Wednesday night of acute leukemia. "Rapid Robert" won 266 games in 18 seasons.

[VirtualSmitty]

Looks like Zack Greinke is on his way to the Brewers, now leaving Royals fans absolutely nothing to be excited about for the upcoming 2011 season :r

[kelmac07]

Pedro Feliciano signs with the Yankees.

[Darrell]

In case anyone forgot...

8263

Is it time for the 2011 series yet? :D

[kelmac07]

But are they re-signing Cody Ross????