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BlackDog
10-05-2009, 03:52 PM
2:40 'til kick off. I hope it's an exciting game. I almost never watch more than a quarter or so of a game, but I have the green light to watch the whole game tonight. I hope the Vikings play well, and I hope the Packers try to kick Farve's arse.
TripleF
10-05-2009, 03:54 PM
Nuttin' against The Pack, I'm a huge Favre fan. Always have been. Wish he was still in GB, cuz he WAS Green Bay.
The Poet
10-05-2009, 03:57 PM
I'm no big Farve fan, and haven't been a GB fan since the Lombardi days, yet I still could not watch this. Him in Viking purple, against the Pack? To me it'd be like watching Granny get gang-banged.
Kreth
10-05-2009, 03:57 PM
Nuttin' against The Pack, I'm a huge Favre fan. Always have been. Wish he was still in GB, cuz he WAS Green Bay.
Funny you should say that. This ex-Vikings fan is hoping his career ends against GB tonight.
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14holestogie
10-05-2009, 04:03 PM
I just hope the class comes through tonight. If that's the case, Rodgers beats Favre.
I wish no ill will to Favre and don't begrudge him the chance to extend his career, but it's his choice to make this a vendetta. Go get him, Pack!
Emjaysmash
10-05-2009, 04:04 PM
GO PACK GO!
Regardless of what favre does, in the end he'll always be remembered as a Packer. No doubt.
Tazziedevil
10-05-2009, 04:08 PM
I'll be watching it as well. Amazing the game of the year is week 4!
I have no vested interest in either team wining, but I do predict the vikings over the pack, 24-20.
Tenor CS
10-05-2009, 04:10 PM
I'm a dolphins fan, so I have no dog in this fight, but I will say this about Favre:
I LOVE how, even at this late stage in his career, he plays with so much enthusiasm and desire to win. It's not just about a payday for him.
replicant_argent
10-05-2009, 04:28 PM
Perhaps this will be the year the Vikings win their first Superbowl under Grampa Favray, and win it for 6 years in a row, until Brett needs a walker with tennis balls to come off the sidelines. And then the Ducky and Bunny party, and the chocolate fountains will flow in the streets, with golden lollipops and gumdrop fancy things.
I think you will be hard pressed to find a Q in the NFL that will run 40 yards downfield and hurl himself into a block against one of the better hitting linebackers in the league(Patrick Willis).... This happened last week in the Vikings game against the 49ers. It is the EXACT reason I am happy BF is back in the league and cannot wait for the game this evening.....
I don't care who wins, but hope it lives up to the hype I have for it....
JohnnyFlake
10-05-2009, 04:35 PM
It's really a shame that so very many Brett Favre (GB) Fans, have turned against the man who brought them years of exciting football!
Favre is one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game. Yes, he is a bit older than the other quarterbacks out there at this time, but few others are as skilled and even fewer have a true love of the game. His talent and especially his love of the game make him a winner!
I hope Minnesota (Favre) teaches GB (Rogers) a lesson on what is all about tonight!!!
The Poet
10-05-2009, 04:38 PM
J-Flake has a good point, and I myself will not bash Brett. It's just the thought of him playing in Lambeau as a Viking that's irks me.
Adriftpanda
10-05-2009, 04:53 PM
I'm more worried about Adrian Peterson... I'm only up 8 points in my fantasy league. I'm more interested in the Packers defense! Go PACKERS!!!!
I guess the whole Farve vs Packers will be a great watch as well.
Jbailey
10-05-2009, 04:59 PM
Always enjoyed the Packers and Farve. I don't wish for anyone to get hurt or any injuries. I just think this will be one of the most interesting football games in a long time.
replicant_argent
10-05-2009, 04:59 PM
J-Flake has a good point, and I myself will not bash Brett. It's just the thought of him playing in Lambeau as a Viking that's irks me.
No worries...
For now....
Tonights game in in the Humpty Dumpty Dome. ;)
WhoDeySchenk
10-05-2009, 05:04 PM
GO PACK GO! as the Pack are my "back-up" team (married into them) erm...but I want Adrian Peterson to have a GREAT game so I can seal my victory this week in fantasy!
slyder
10-05-2009, 05:48 PM
Is Farve actually gonna play? I heard he was having second thoughts. :-)
Resipsa
10-05-2009, 06:01 PM
Some light reading for all of those drinking the Favre Kool Aide.....
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/090930&sportCat=nfl
Kreth
10-05-2009, 06:12 PM
Is Farve actually gonna play? I heard he was having second thoughts. :-)
That was an hour ago. He's back in. :r
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Well....I am ready for some football.
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1512/fattireandabt.jpg
kenstogie
10-05-2009, 06:14 PM
is there any where some one could watch Monday Night Football with out Cable?
BlackDog
10-05-2009, 06:53 PM
Pink shoes. I don't approve.
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Kreth
10-05-2009, 07:00 PM
is there any where some one could watch Monday Night Football with out Cable?
Found this link (http://unlocksports.com/watch28015.html), Ken. I imagine espn.com would have a stream as well.
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Tenor CS
10-05-2009, 07:42 PM
Found this link (http://unlocksports.com/watch28015.html), Ken. I imagine espn.com would have a stream as well.
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That link sucks. Survey spam quiz BS.
14holestogie
10-05-2009, 07:52 PM
We've got a game, now. We sure can't afford to turn it over anymore than we have so far.
Emjaysmash
10-05-2009, 08:01 PM
So I'm checking in now because my GF is out of the room.
Good game going, Packers just need to be a little less sloppy and we could take this!
Added bonus with Brett Favre continuing to play, gratuitous shots of Deanna Favre cheering him on.
replicant_argent
10-05-2009, 08:39 PM
Favray had so much time in the pocket a few plays ago I thought he was going to roast marshmallows. I think it is against NFL regs to make smores during the game, isn't it?
TripleF
10-05-2009, 08:46 PM
I love this guy's attitude....I just do.
acarr
10-05-2009, 08:49 PM
Fauvra looks funny in purple.
Emjaysmash
10-05-2009, 09:07 PM
Eff this sheet.
BlackDog
10-05-2009, 10:02 PM
That was an impressive performance. And I thought the hugs and high fives at the end of the game was pretty classy on both sides. Great game.
kgoings
10-05-2009, 10:05 PM
Stupid decision to go for it on 4th and Goal from the 1 in the 3rd. If they kick it at that point, they could have been going for a tie in the 4th instead of kicking at the end of the game.
King James
10-05-2009, 10:31 PM
thought Favre would stick it to Thompson tonight and he did. Proved that you don't deal away hall of fame QBs who can still win. Thompson's job is to put the best team on the field to WIN, regardless of personalities. Rodgers would have been fine sitting another year or two and learning, and Thompson made the wrong decision to win games.
kelmac07
10-06-2009, 03:54 AM
Sacked eight times and Rogers still throws for almost 400 yards...the kid is a STUD!!
14holestogie
10-06-2009, 07:20 AM
Sacked eight times and Rogers still throws for almost 400 yards...the kid is a STUD!!
I'd like to see what he could do with an offensive line, but that probably isn't happening until Ted Thompson is gone. Never a priority for him. How do you go into a season without a backup for Clifton without having to rearrange the entire line? :confused:
BlackDog
10-06-2009, 07:30 AM
This just in: Jared Allen sacked Aaron Rodgers again. :D
CueTheMusic
10-06-2009, 08:04 AM
Between this game and the Iowa State Cyclones losing on a blocked extra point, this has been one of the worst football weekends for me in a long time (and I know bad football weekends, I'm a cyclone fan....)
Packers really need some help on the offensive line, and some healthy safteys.
I wish no ill will to Favre and don't begrudge him the chance to extend his career, but it's his choice to make this a vendetta. Go get him, Pack!
Granted, you can't take anything Brett says at face value, but I don't see this as
some kind of vendetta. Far from it. Brett has a very warm place for GB, always
will. You don't think the JETS wanted him, do you? Minnesota is as good a place as
any. The Saints might be the only other team he would want to play for, and they
didn't want him. If he stays in the general area, he doesn't have to sell all his property
and has a place to go on the weekends. I am not saying it isn't FUN to play against GB,
but it isn't like GB was going to let him be the starter the year he left or this year.
The man wanted to start. Whoever let him start was going to get his services. He is the
Allen Iverson of the NFL. (Memphis inside joke)
A vendetta is something entirely different than this.
Some light reading for all of those drinking the Favre Kool Aide.....
EHhh, the article itself is kind of a mirror image of the hype it is placing at Brett's feet.
He is making GB fans and Brett Favre out to be statistics jimmiers. In fact
the truth is that the NFL keeps it's stats that way and the same is true for Dan Marino
and Ken Stabler and Joe Montana. Unless he wanted Brett to go out and make the field goal, too. There is no manipulation going on there. That's just the way it is. Nor are you saying that there is some kind of trickery afoot. But this is just like the article my mother mailed to me, yes, in an envelope, about how dangerous cigars were and how kids thought they were being cool but they were risking their lives and how Ahnold is a bahd mahn.
I think it's neato how AP had a hair over 50 yards rushing and Brettski had
about a million passing. :) Or rather, the Vikes managed to win without a huge
rushing number. It kind of allowed Brett to WIN the game without people saying
that AP won it for him. If he ever needed to prove he could win a
game passing, it was last night. I didn't see the game, too cheap to have
cable, but after hearing the rushing number I thought either he won it or
his defense did.
King James
10-06-2009, 09:25 AM
I also thought AP would do all the work and Brett would maybe get one TD pass in the game. Packers have done well the past few years containing Peterson
JohnnyFlake
10-06-2009, 11:22 AM
Which other quarterback did you see this past weekend running down the field throwing blocks???
Like I said earlier in this thread:
"Favre is one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game. Yes, he is a bit older than the other quarterbacks out there at this time, but few others are as skilled and even fewer have a true love of the game. His talent and especially his love of the game make him a winner!"
GB made a huge mistake on how they handled Brett Favre, but they don't have the Balls to admit it, so they have done everything they could to make him the bad guy!
BTW, I think Rogers played extremely well last night. In time, he will be one of the greats. His problem right now, is that he thinks he already is!!!
Kreth
10-06-2009, 11:35 AM
Packers have done well the past few years containing Peterson
Huh? In one of the games last year, he had almost 200 yards against them.
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King James
10-06-2009, 01:17 PM
Huh? In one of the games last year, he had almost 200 yards against them.
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I more meant keeping him out of the end zone...although they have held him to 50 yds in 2 of the 5 games they have played (including scoring no touchdowns on the Pack in 2007)
He has never had a multi-touchdown game against GB, and holding that good of a RB who is in the division to less than 1 TD a game is pretty good I think
I'm sure his day to open up on the Pack will come, though. Probably more sooner than later
gvarsity
10-31-2009, 10:08 PM
I'm so stoked for this game tomorrow. I'm a life long Vikings fan living in Wi so life the season has been interesting to say the least. I 100% behind the Vikings but I am hoping for a good game. Not to say I wouldn't take a Vikings blowout victory but I would prefer a good game and Vikings victory.
I initially was not for the Favre experiment but I have to admit he has played well for the Vikings. IMHO Brett had 3-4 incredible years under Holmgren and the rest of his career was really really inconsistent. A significant number of his heroics over the years were digging the Pack out of holes he dug. That said he has played very intelligently and under control this season. My one experience at Lambeau convinced me that Packers fans are generally pretty classy and although I expect some boos I don't expect a lot of real venom.
The wost thing the Packers fans and organization can do is to alienate Favre over his tenure with the Vikings. He almost single handedly made Green Bay relevant again after decades of futility. In a couple of years all will be forgiven and they will retire his number and he will be the star of many a fundraiser etc... as it should be. Just like Montana with the Niners and many other hall of famers who finished their careers on other teams. The last thing you want is protracted animosity with the historical face of your franchise. It has happened a few times and it is ugly and sad.
Kreth
11-01-2009, 02:31 PM
Terrible call on the first drive. Good thing I'm no longer a Vikings fan or I'd be pissed. I say terrible because Minnesota's challenge was rejected. Peterson lost a fumble under almost identical circumstances a few weeks ago, so which is it, ref?
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icehog3
11-01-2009, 02:33 PM
Terrible call on the first drive. Good thing I'm no longer a Vikings fan or I'd be pissed. I say terrible because Minnesota's challenge was rejected. Peterson lost a fumble under almost identical circumstances a few weeks ago, so which is it, ref?
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Was he the same ref as the other time?
Kreth
11-01-2009, 02:38 PM
Was he the same ref as the other time?
They all look the same to me... :r
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icehog3
11-01-2009, 03:05 PM
They all look the same to me... :r
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Word. :r
marge796
11-01-2009, 03:15 PM
I thought it was crap how Farve was booed when he took the field.
JohnnyFlake
11-01-2009, 03:40 PM
I love Favre and even though the Vikings are winning, I cannot stand the plays the coach is calling. What an Asshole!!!
kelmac07
11-01-2009, 03:55 PM
A$$ Whooping!!!! :tu
BlackDog
11-01-2009, 05:52 PM
The Vikings were strong, and deserved to win today even though their 3rd quarter was pretty weak. However, I continue to be impressed with Aaron Rodgers, and think he has the ability to be a great quarterback.
I initially was not for the Favre experiment but I have to admit he has played well for the Vikings.
I agree. At first I was against bringing Farve onto the team, and was sure he'd cause a lot of dissention among the team members and coaches. However it seems to have gone well, and he's certainly raised the team's competitiveness to a level I haven't seen in years.
kelmac07
11-01-2009, 07:01 PM
Turned out to be a good game!!
King James
11-01-2009, 07:24 PM
I thought it was really classless of the Packer fans that booed. You could tell it hurt Favre to hear that from the fans, the same fans that cheered him for 16 years. When they panned to the crowd there was a lot of support for Brett too, but the booing was just crazy to me.
That being said, I couldn't be happier that Brett stuck it to Mccarthy and Thompson twice this year. 7 TDs, 0 Interceptions, and not a single sack..... I wonder if Thompson is second guessing himself after tonight.
And I think it is even worse of the CEO to act all innocent. I guess he wasn't at the game because he couldn't "bare to see Favre in a different colored Jersey"..... well I think he has the power to fire Thompson, so he could have made his feelings about keeping Brett around known
RevSmoke
11-01-2009, 09:04 PM
BTW, I think Rogers played extremely well last night. In time, he will be one of the greats. His problem right now, is that he thinks he already is!!!
Where has Rodgers ever made you think that? Of all the people involved in the whole Favre debacle when he un-retired and went to the Jets - up to the interviews with him for this game - Rodgers has been very gracious and tight-lipped (not bashing Brett in any way). He has also been very good to take his lumps and criticisms with good grace and honesty.
I won't bash Favre. I think both sides were handled the whole situation wrongly.
However, if Brett were on the Green Bay side of the ball tonight, I'm not sure he'd be standing. I also think that the dark side that is Brett Favre would have reared the ugly interception head.
It was a fun game to be at.
The Packers lost - Bret didn't beat them. You can blame part of that on coaching and play-calling. If you watched the game, you know what I mean.
King James
11-01-2009, 09:17 PM
The Packers lost - Bret didn't beat them. You can blame part of that on coaching and play-calling. If you watched the game, you know what I mean.
Although the Packers did miss some opportunities, I think one could argue that Brett beat them (or at least was the main reason for beating the Pack) I mean he did throw 4 TDs and didn't turn the ball over at all (I don't blame him for the botched snap)
Kreth
11-01-2009, 09:20 PM
Well, GB did get hurt by a couple of key penalties, but they also got a huge break on their first drive when Minnesota's challenge on the fumble was rejected. And not that it would've changed the outcome, but when Berrian scored the last TD, it should have been a 15 yd facemask penalty. The DB grabbed both sides of his facemask to tackle him.
Much as I hate the Pack, I have to agree with the Rev that Rodgers has been very professional through the whole Favre mess. And if he had an O-line, it would've been a different game.
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icehog3
11-01-2009, 09:28 PM
Best T-Shirt shot at the game:
"We Will Never Forget You Brent!". :r :r
King James
11-01-2009, 09:38 PM
Best T-Shirt shot at the game:
"We Will Never Forget You Brent!". :r :r
who is brent? :confused:
;) :D
icehog3
11-01-2009, 09:45 PM
who is brent? :confused:
;) :D
Exactly. :r
RevSmoke
11-02-2009, 07:10 AM
Although the Packers did miss some opportunities, I think one could argue that Brett beat them (or at least was the main reason for beating the Pack) I mean he did throw 4 TDs and didn't turn the ball over at all (I don't blame him for the botched snap)
DId Brett beat them? Packer d-line never pressured him all night. There was shoddy coverage on his receivers.
DId Brett play well? Yes, no doubt about it. But the Packer defense did not perform. Had they sacked him once or twice and this would have been a different game. Had the coverage been better, this was a different game.
If the Packer offense played as well in the first half as they did in the second half, this would have been a different game.
My point? While one man can make a difference in a football game, it is still a team effort. Put Brett in Packer jersey last night and the outcome would have been the same - A Viking victory. At the same time, put Rodgers in a Viking jersey - it it would have maybe been even worse for the Pack. With Brett as a Packer last night, he'd have been a hurting pup.
King James
11-02-2009, 09:39 AM
DId Brett beat them? Packer d-line never pressured him all night. There was shoddy coverage on his receivers.
DId Brett play well? Yes, no doubt about it. But the Packer defense did not perform. Had they sacked him once or twice and this would have been a different game. Had the coverage been better, this was a different game.
If the Packer offense played as well in the first half as they did in the second half, this would have been a different game.
My point? While one man can make a difference in a football game, it is still a team effort. Put Brett in Packer jersey last night and the outcome would have been the same - A Viking victory. At the same time, put Rodgers in a Viking jersey - it it would have maybe been even worse for the Pack. With Brett as a Packer last night, he'd have been a hurting pup.
Im afraid we will have to agree to disagree.
Brett has an excellent sense of pocket pressure, and even at 40 yrs old has a good ability to move around in the pocket. If Rodgers was the QB for the Vikings, he would have been sacked probably 2-3 times last night when Favre was not.
On the other hand, although the Packers o-line is not the greatest this year.... of all the sacks last night at least 3 were Rodgers fault for not getting rid of the ball. Of the 14 sacks given up to the Vikings, I would say 8 at least are Rodgers own fault... he needs to learn how to get rid of the ball and/or step up in the pocket.
And as far as winning the game, both games this year the packers have contained adrian peterson very well. Last year, if that would have happened the vikings wouldn't have a had a chance. This year w/ Brett @ QB, they can win games when adrian peterson isn't having as good of a night. Yes it is a team effort, but I'm fairly comfortable in saying that the Vikings would not have beaten the Pack this year if Favre wasn't at QB.
And the coverage was actually pretty good last night. But Favre knows those guys and how they cover, and the man can just make throws and see things that other people can not.... slipping the ball in between 2 defenders and throwing when his feet are not set.
Kreth
11-02-2009, 09:54 AM
True, Peterson didn't have the huge yards he racked up against the Pack last season. But, just under 100 yds rushing, 40+ receiving, and a TD isn't exactly a sub-par performance. I think he could've gone higher, but with Rice and Harvin catching everything in the same zip code, grinding the run wasn't a necessity.
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BlackDog
11-02-2009, 09:58 AM
On the other hand, although the Packers o-line is not the greatest this year.... of all the sacks last night at least 3 were Rodgers fault for not getting rid of the ball. Of the 14 sacks given up to the Vikings, I would say 8 at least are Rodgers own fault... he needs to learn how to get rid of the ball and/or step up in the pocket.
Agree. Rodgers needs to learn to get rid of the ball faster. He seems to be looking for the big play rather than tossing a screen pass for a few yards.
King James
11-02-2009, 12:17 PM
True, Peterson didn't have the huge yards he racked up against the Pack last season. But, just under 100 yds rushing, 40+ receiving, and a TD isn't exactly a sub-par performance. I think he could've gone higher, but with Rice and Harvin catching everything in the same zip code, grinding the run wasn't a necessity.
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He had one big run, but if you watched the game he was getting contained very well. His 1 yd TD run was setup by a 77 yd return by Harvin. And I'm not sure what you mean by huge numbers last year. I think I have replied before in this thread that AP has never had a multi-TD game against the packers.
In the first game last year he had 103 rushing yds, 34 of which came on one big run.
In the second game he had alot of yards, but got his TD on a long run, and helped setup a short TD pass.
The guy is the best running back in the league, and the Packers for whatever reason have consistently contained him better than many other teams is all I'm saying, so by no means take it as an insult against AP
JohnnyFlake
11-02-2009, 03:23 PM
Where has Rodgers ever made you think that? Of all the people involved in the whole Favre debacle when he un-retired and went to the Jets - up to the interviews with him for this game - Rodgers has been very gracious and tight-lipped (not bashing Brett in any way). He has also been very good to take his lumps and criticisms with good grace and honesty.
I won't bash Favre. I think both sides were handled the whole situation wrongly.
However, if Brett were on the Green Bay side of the ball tonight, I'm not sure he'd be standing. I also think that the dark side that is Brett Favre would have reared the ugly interception head.
It was a fun game to be at.
The Packers lost - Bret didn't beat them. You can blame part of that on coaching and play-calling. If you watched the game, you know what I mean.
Rev,
The statement from me that you high-lited was in reference to the game in MN, not this past week-end. Also I never said that Rogers said anything about Brett. Based on comments he made earlier in the year about his ability to play, I stated that in time he would be one of the greats, and that his problem now is that he believes he already is!
I watched the game closely and know exactly what you mean. Personally, I believe no matter who was the quarterback for GB this passed weekend, they would have lost! GB management is so F--- U- over their quarterback situation and the Brett Favre issue, that they have forgotten about the rest of the players & positions!
As far as bad calls, I am referring mostly to MN. The coach had his head up his Ass. If he would have started to pass 2/3 of the time, instead of running up the center somewhere between the tackles 2/3 of the time, MN would have easily had 2 or 3 more TDs!
icehog3
11-02-2009, 10:22 PM
Best T-Shirt shot at the game:
"We Will Never Forget You Brent!". :r :r
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/favre-t-shirt.jpg
icehog3
11-02-2009, 10:26 PM
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/favre2.jpg
RevSmoke
11-03-2009, 06:21 AM
Rev,
The statement from me that you high-lited was in reference to the game in MN, not this past week-end. Also I never said that Rogers said anything about Brett. Based on comments he made earlier in the year about his ability to play, I stated that in time he would be one of the greats, and that his problem now is that he believes he already is!
And see, I have not heard or seen aything like that out of him. All I have seen, heard, and read is very humble - as he claims, "I'm a work in progress."
I have heard his confidence come around, and it better have, for if you go out there thinking you're no good - then you don't belong on the field.
replicant_argent
11-03-2009, 06:31 AM
Can you imagine all the brouhaha when Rodgers is MNs backup QB next year?
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