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Da Klugs
10-21-2008, 11:46 AM
So you learn a few things along the journey of discovery that is cigar smoking. There are so many, it's what keeps the hobby fresh. Nothing like sitting down next to a brother/sister and "noticing something". I'm pretty slow but over time you pick up things that can be useful.

How you choose to smoke a cigar is many times based upon circumstances. Time constraints, location, need to do something productive while smoking, etc can all have an impact on "how you smoke". The interrelated subject is "what you choose to smoke". Anyone with more than 1 cigar is confronted with this choice.

But.. let's stick with technique.

Once you choose to smoke a specific cigar, for whatever reasons it comes to you to do so (mine more often then not are that I could find it) there are basic things you need to do.

Cut: Most folks use some form of guillotine cutter. Either single blade or dual blade. Lots of hype regarding which style is better and within style which brand. Palio and Xikar being the most popular dual blades. Personally, I tend to cut most cigars with my $ 1.50 single blade Havana cutter. The very thin razor edge seems to be the most reliable for me particularly with crumbly older cigars. However, the Palio and Xikars do a fine job as well. One technique I have seen is to lay the cutter flat on the table, put the cigar in vertically, and make the cut with the cigar head resting on the table. Seems to be pretty good at making a straight cut, particularly with the Xikar and Palio, where a bit of twisting and off angle cuts are easy without a firm steady hand. Going too slowly on a cut is normally where problems of "pinching" occurs. So commit to the cut!

Once you have smoked a particular cigar / box sometimes you find cigars that have a draw that is looser than you prefer. For me, this is the application for a Punch. By making a smaller hole/restricting airflow in the cap vs cutting the whole thing off, the draw can me made to "feel" more normal.

Light: Lots of chatter about "how to" light a cigar. Cedar strips, toasting to avoid flame touching the tobacco with torches, soft flame lighters, etc, etc. From my perspective have never really noticed a difference in flavor based upon "how a cigar was lit". However, there are huge differences in how a cigar smokes based upon the light. I believe that most poorly burning/running cigars start with a bad light.

There are probably an infinite number of ways to get a good light. Here is one. I toast the foot.. flame on or a little off of the tobacco. In between I blow on the glowing foot. Take no draws on the cigar during the process. Try to get the entire foot including the wrapper glowing. Usually its 2-3 toast and blow alternations to get a good even burn. After it is achieved wait a few seconds and start taking light draws on the cigar and recheck the evenness of the burn. If necessary torch and blow again.

Starting with light vs heavy draws on the cigar helps prevent an initial run and improves the burn for the entire cigar.

Draw Intensity: How hard you draw on a cigar has a big impact on the flavors. The nature of a cigar and where it is in its burn interrelate on this issue as well. Drawing too heavily and sharply will tend to heat a cigar beyond it's optimal flavor profile. However, cigars that are too moist (too being relative to what you like) may require heavier or more frequent draws to get the proper amount of smoke. This relates to a separate but related issue of what RH to store your cigars and why some folks choose to "dry box" (store cigars in lower RH just prior to smoking).

Every cigar has it's sweet spot, at least for me, regarding the pace and amount of draw to "get it's best". It's something you need to think about but tends to come naturally... sometimes through a head spinning surprise.

Frequency of Draw: Numbers like every 30 seconds or 45 or 1 minute get thrown out as being the "right pace". I think every cigar has it's optimal pace. Older dryer = lighter puffs, longer intervals. Newer, wetter harder puffs shorter intervals (cuz they will go out is one reason). It really depends mostly on how hard you draw and finding a "pace" that makes the cigar taste best for you.

Nose Modulation: Everything we give him he stick up his nose! (Old Cheech and Chong line) Try eating or smoking something while pinching your nose. No discernible flavors! The sense of taste regarding smoke comes primarily from your nasal cavity. For me it was a serendipitous thing for many years. I'd smoke a cigar... smoke in the mouth, smoke out the mouth. Got preferences. Bought more of them. Basically a happy lil mouth smoking camper. Then the SOB named Bruce noticed my "technique" and showed me the "nose exhale". The world changed from there. Every cigar I smoke I exhale some portion of the inhale consciously through my nose. Milder cigars... more nose. Stronger cigars.. less nose, but every cigar some nose. Usually more nose at the beginning of a cigar less at the end. If you don't do it now, you need to learn.

Summary: Storage RH starts the process. Cutting it right sets the stage. Lighting it evenly positions you for pleasure. But, the combination of finding a cigars pace and consciously modulating the strength of draw and the amount of "nose" on exhale is "it". Once you get "it" there are many paths to enjoy any particular cigar at any point in its all too short death by fire.

Of course we violate many of these rules by hot boxing some of the worlds finest cigars in PPP's.

kayaker
10-21-2008, 11:53 AM
Wow. Great info. I've read most of this before, but there are a few new considerations and it's nice to see it all in a neat little package.:tu

shemp
10-21-2008, 11:56 AM
great post kluggs, i had the clouds parting, angels singing, and heavenly light shining down upon me experience when i finally figured out about nose exhaling as well...

barbourjay
10-21-2008, 11:58 AM
i too have found everyone has their own ritual as to how to cut light and draw on a cigar. i'm right there with you on lighting except i tend to draw in and usually blow out a time or two also just to clear some of the bitterness from the lighting process.

BTW, i love my punch. i have it on my keys all the time and use it for cigars like the chisel and a few larger RG cigars to give a more concentrated draw. i think it's an under-rated way to cut the cigar. not to mention how clean it can be compared to other techniques sometimes.

leasingthisspace
10-21-2008, 12:03 PM
Thanks for the post. I have been trying to exhale more and more out through my nose as I am blowing out of my mouth. The first time it was bad really bad but that is because I was trying to blow it all out my nose. I had to learn the hard way that it is not all exhaled through my nose.

I know exhale is a poor choice of words because I don't inhale but I think you can understand what I mean.

SonsofClubDeck
10-21-2008, 12:16 PM
Great post. When I get out of class I am going to print this out for some friends. I am very grateful to my father for teaching me the art of the snork. It has changed my appreciation of smoking greatly.

mrreindeer
10-21-2008, 12:38 PM
great post Klugs, thank you

Nose Modulation: Everything we give him he stick up his nose! (Old Cheech and Chong line)

Ah, I get it! Is that what this guy was doing? http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1556

FriskyDingo
10-21-2008, 01:26 PM
Nice post :tu

This should be a sticky!!

SmokinApe
10-21-2008, 01:43 PM
Why do some folks light the cigar before cutting?

Skywalker
10-21-2008, 01:43 PM
Another fine post!!!

Great information!

Some day I hope to Herf with you Dave and see your technique in action!!!:ss

BlackIrish
10-21-2008, 03:06 PM
Klugs, you rock!

BlackIrish
10-21-2008, 03:09 PM
Nice post :tu

This should be a sticky!!

:tpd: Make it sticky.

kayaker
10-21-2008, 04:33 PM
Why do some folks light the cigar before cutting?

I think it has to do with keeping the smoke from the lighting process from traveling up the cut cigar. However, you don't get the opportunity to test the draw before you start.

Rockestone
10-21-2008, 05:11 PM
Aw, read it again daddy. :ss

Squid
10-21-2008, 06:54 PM
Damn Klugs, another great post....but, do you stay up late at night thinking these things up, or what??? You'd think CA has it's own in house philosopher or Hemingway!! :ss

:hm Gotta say...that nose thing has piqued my curiosity. I'm going out on the porch in a few minutes with a Carolina Blonde and my ever faithful La Gloria Cubana and I'm gonna try it!

Savor the Stick
10-21-2008, 07:06 PM
Dave,
Thanks for bringing this all together for a very concise bit of information. Taking a lot of very widly dispersed info and presenting it into a good easy read. :tu

This might be a very good thing for a sticky.

Guys hit him up with some RG.
Thanks again,
STS:ss

Da Klugs
10-21-2008, 07:08 PM
Everything has a backstory....

This morning Sam came in and said are you ready to go back to work?

Thought about it and then typed the above. Maybe tomorrow. :)

schnell987
10-21-2008, 07:18 PM
Your procrastination is our gain. :D Thanks for great information!

Squid
10-21-2008, 07:23 PM
Everything has a backstory....

This morning Sam came in and said are you ready to go back to work?

Thought about it and then typed the above. Maybe tomorrow. :)

:) You're right....NEVER do today what you can put off until tomorrow!

stearns
10-21-2008, 09:03 PM
like glue. thanks a lot for posting this, it was a great read

stearns

ChicagoWhiteSox
10-21-2008, 09:04 PM
thanks for posting! Useful read for everyone.

Scottw
10-21-2008, 10:17 PM
I think it has to do with keeping the smoke from the lighting process from traveling up the cut cigar. However, you don't get the opportunity to test the draw before you start.

You are correct sir! This is the case but as stated, you can't tell the draw this way unless you are revs friend from the other forum who smokes stogies without cutting the cap!

lightning9191
10-22-2008, 10:41 AM
Nice post :tu

This should be a sticky!!

:tpd: This is a great post!

Dgar
10-28-2008, 04:57 PM
Great post.

In it you said every cigar has it's sweet spot would this include the Nub cigars. :D

Starscream
10-28-2008, 07:41 PM
Everyone learn how to snork if you do not already do so. Great post.

ahc4353
10-29-2008, 12:26 PM
Thanks for the lighting tips Dave. Ever since reading this I have used the above technique and what a difference it has made. Just taking those extra few seconds lighting the cigar makes a HUGE difference.

hogg
11-07-2008, 11:29 PM
Exhaling through the nose- best thing I ever learned. I can't believe no one I smoke with does it- it is good to see it mentioned so I don't feel like I am crazy. I don't remember who I picked that up from but for years I have been enjoying cigars so much more than before.

MLC
11-17-2008, 10:34 PM
Excellent info.

icantbejon
11-18-2008, 04:19 AM
how would one go about learning the nose exhale thing? I assume that to exhale through the nose, you have to inhale into the lungs? Am I stupid for this belief? I've been reading more and more about the nose thing and I just have no idea how to do it. Little help please.

Buena Fortuna
11-18-2008, 05:46 AM
Exhaling through your nose is the only true way to taste the entire flavor profile of a cigar.

Flavor is a combination of two sensory perceptions: taste and aroma. The first part of the flavor duo of taste and aroma is perceived by the taste buds and other sensory tissues on the tongue. It is this area which perceives non-volatile stimuli such as: salt, sweet, acid (sour) and bitter. These taste buds are generally located in very specific areas on the tongue (sweet in front, salt next and along the sides, acid (sour) next and along the sides, bitter in the rear and from side to side covering the back of the tongue). However, all types of taste buds can be found located sparsely throughout the tongue's entire surface.

The olfactory (scent) receptors in the nasal passages, in contrast, are fine-tuned and discriminating. A normal person can tell the difference between 4000-10,000 smells.

I was at a cigar event where Christian Eiroa was presenting Camacho cigars. He explained and demonstrated the process as follows:

Take in a draw of smoke, hold it in your mouth for 3-5 seconds, place your tounge up on the roof of your mouth behind your top row of teeth, and exhale throuh your nose. (Note to newbies at this, make sure you don't take in too much of a draw, and also let some smoke exhale out of your mouth either before or after exhaling through the nose...and don't inhale)

By following this process, you will soon begin to be able to discern the complexities and distinct flavors of cigars.

(As a side note, milk is perfect for cleansing your palate before smoking a cigar.)

icantbejon
11-18-2008, 05:56 AM
Exhaling through your nose is the only true way to taste the entire flavor profile of a cigar.

Flavor is a combination of two sensory perceptions: taste and aroma. The first part of the flavor duo of taste and aroma is perceived by the taste buds and other sensory tissues on the tongue. It is this area which perceives non-volatile stimuli such as: salt, sweet, acid (sour) and bitter. These taste buds are generally located in very specific areas on the tongue (sweet in front, salt next and along the sides, acid (sour) next and along the sides, bitter in the rear and from side to side covering the back of the tongue). However, all types of taste buds can be found located sparsely throughout the tongue's entire surface.

The olfactory (scent) receptors in the nasal passages, in contrast, are fine-tuned and discriminating. A normal person can tell the difference between 4000-10,000 smells.

I was at a cigar event where Christian Eiroa was presenting Camacho cigars. He explained and demonstrated the process as follows:

Take in a draw of smoke, hold it in your mouth for 3-5 seconds, place your tounge up on the roof of your mouth behind your top row of teeth, and exhale throuh your nose. (Note to newbies at this, make sure you don't take in too much of a draw, and also let some smoke exhale out of your mouth either before or after exhaling through the nose...and don't inhale)

By following this process, you will soon begin to be able to discern the complexities and distinct flavors of cigars.

(As a side note, milk is perfect for cleansing your palate before smoking a cigar.)


Thanks man. That is a great technique for me to try. I'll give it a whirl the next time I light one up.

trogdor
11-25-2008, 01:11 PM
Thanks man. That is a great technique for me to try. I'll give it a whirl the next time I light one up.

Train yourself with MILD cigars... if you start with stronger ones before you learn to modulate the amount of smoke you won't have a very pleasant experience. Once you get the hang of it, it's a whole new world of flavors/aromas.

csbrewfisher
11-25-2008, 01:40 PM
Exhaling through the nose was taught me by Scott, the Front Range Herfer. My entire smoking experience was changed at that moment, and I am eternally grateful to him. The only downside is that I have no desire to smoke with a sinus cold.

Thank you Scott!

trogdor
12-01-2008, 01:53 PM
Something else that is very useful is purging the cigar - blowing through it for a breath. I've found that doing this after the flavors start to go off a little can refresh them again. I usually do it a ocuple of times per cigar, usually after the halfway point.

Catfish
01-19-2009, 10:37 AM
... hot boxing some of the worlds finest cigars in PPP's.


Huh? Sorry, I don't understand what that is but I certainly don't want to do it. What do you mean?

Da Klugs
01-19-2009, 10:41 AM
Huh? Sorry, I don't understand what that is but I certainly don't want to do it. What do you mean?

Late at night certain crazy freinds pull out silly expensive old cigars and put them in Puff Puff Passes. (Couiple puffs and pass it on to the next smoker) It's fun and a great way to experience the contrast in flavors. It also tends to overheat the cigars a bit unless you are careful. (hotbox)

Kreth
01-19-2009, 10:47 AM
Take in a draw of smoke, hold it in your mouth for 3-5 seconds, place your tounge up on the roof of your mouth behind your top row of teeth, and exhale throuh your nose. (Note to newbies at this, make sure you don't take in too much of a draw, and also let some smoke exhale out of your mouth either before or after exhaling through the nose...and don't inhale)
Take this with a grain of salt, as it's a newbie opinion... Tongue in place as above, tighten up your throat like you're going to swallow, and then give a light cough. You're not really inhaling, but this forces this smoke out through your nose.

Catfish
01-19-2009, 10:47 AM
understood. Thanks. I have big luv for all my Brothers-Of-The-Leaf but I have to say, I don't ever think i could be part of a Puff-Puff-Pass. Call me whatever ya want, that just sounds kinda yuck-o.

Da Klugs
01-19-2009, 10:51 AM
understood. Thanks. I have big luv for all my Brothers-Of-The-Leaf but I have to say, I don't ever think i could be part of a Puff-Puff-Pass. Call me whatever ya want, that just sounds kinda yuck-o.

Friggin virgins... :r

Cigary
01-19-2009, 10:59 AM
Great Post Klug's,,,,a video on this would be perfect! As far as learning how to "snork" a cigar a brother told me how to do it the easiest way I ever heard. After drawing the smoke into your mouth let out about 70% and then bend your head over just enough to where you feel your throat tighten and then let the rest of the smoke out thru your nose. Do this a few times to where you are comfortable with the amount of smoke coming thru your nasal cavity. As was said, smoke a cigar that isn't full bodied so you don't "burn" your nose hairs off. This was the easiest way for me to learn how to snork a cigar.

pnoon
01-19-2009, 11:02 AM
understood. Thanks. I have big luv for all my Brothers-Of-The-Leaf but I have to say, I don't ever think i could be part of a Puff-Puff-Pass. Call me whatever ya want, that just sounds kinda yuck-o.

Would you take a taste off someone's beer? Or a shot from their flask? Not any different IMO.

Prospector
01-19-2009, 11:16 AM
Also be mindful of the additional nicotine absorption through your nasal passages. If you are at all sensitive to nicotine you should start snorking real gradual. (I speak from experience):(

ca21455
01-19-2009, 01:30 PM
Great post as always Dave!

Here is a picture of me trying out your techniques in the backyard. :)

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/ca21455/3129023971_dfb6b3ba21.jpg

Catfish
01-19-2009, 01:41 PM
I have always been a nose smoke-extractor. Never knew you DIDN'T expel through the nose until I had my first mini-herf experience at my local cigar shop. The owner saw me snorking like a bull and fusses at me, "Don't inhale cigar smoke!!!" I responded that I didn't. I just have always gotten more flavor / palate response from "exhaling" through my nose. She and the 3 others herf'n with me looked at me like I had 2 heads.

Oh well, I thought. To each their own...

Cigary
01-19-2009, 02:04 PM
I have always been a nose smoke-extractor. Never knew you DIDN'T expel through the nose until I had my first mini-herf experience at my local cigar shop. The owner saw me snorking like a bull and fusses at me, "Don't inhale cigar smoke!!!" I responded that I didn't. I just have always gotten more flavor / palate response from "exhaling" through my nose. She and the 3 others herf'n with me looked at me like I had 2 heads.

Oh well, I thought. To each their own...

I hear ya,,,and ditto the thoughts on the puff puff pass. If I want to try a cigar I'll smoke my own,,,,not that I don't like my fellow brothers but I'm just funny that way.

Da Klugs
01-19-2009, 02:09 PM
I hear ya,,,and ditto the thoughts on the puff puff pass. If I want to try a cigar I'll smoke my own,,,,not that I don't like my fellow brothers but I'm just funny that way.

Is it virgin day or something? :r:ss

To each his own.

DocLogic77
01-24-2009, 12:14 PM
Terrific info...specifically about the punch cut on loose cigars. I will definately try that. As for the nose exhale...I have had problems learning the technique for this without inhaling the cigar into the lungs. The only way I can seem to exhale through the nose is if I inhale into the lungs.

68TriShield
01-24-2009, 09:42 PM
Terrific info...specifically about the punch cut on loose cigars. I will definately try that. As for the nose exhale...I have had problems learning the technique for this without inhaling the cigar into the lungs. The only way I can seem to exhale through the nose is if I inhale into the lungs.

Hold your tongue against the roof of your mouth and push it through your sinus's.

DocLogic77
01-26-2009, 04:11 PM
Hold your tongue against the roof of your mouth and push it through your sinus's.

I tried that again to day and for whatever reason I just can't get it. Not sure if it's because of my severely deviated septum or because I'm just not that coordinated...lol.
:cb

totallytentative
01-26-2009, 07:02 PM
Just be careful about pushing too much full bodied smoke out your nose. Unless you're a cigarette smoker the smoke from some cigars is so thick and heavy it might make your sinuses burn. That, and the afforementioned nicotine absorbtion issue is why I tend to put only small amounts out my nose so that I can pick up more aromas, but nothing more.

EDIT: Heh, whoops, I see Cigary has already warned about this. :D

DocLogic77
01-26-2009, 09:05 PM
Well...what do ya know. I pulled out a PL panatela for my drive up to Lexington this eve. I finally got it! The first time...made me cry like a girl. I was so glad no one was there to see it lol. I kinda figured out that blowing the entire amount in your mouth out through your nose wasn't wise. The second time was much more successful. I thought I would share my new found smoking skill. :D Thanks guys.

Da Klugs
01-26-2009, 09:10 PM
Congrats Shawn. Puts an entirely different face on every cigar you "think" you the flavors of. Enjoy the re-exploration.

DocLogic77
01-27-2009, 12:22 PM
Congrats Shawn. Puts an entirely different face on every cigar you "think" you the flavors of. Enjoy the re-exploration.


Thanks...I'm pretty stoked. Of course, my first session was filled with too much nasal burning from poor technique. But, after a few of these I was already able to appreciate more complexity within the smoke. I'm excited to go through all my favorites and not so favorites and rediscover.

68TriShield
01-27-2009, 01:22 PM
Thanks...I'm pretty stoked. Of course, my first session was filled with too much nasal burning from poor technique. But, after a few of these I was already able to appreciate more complexity within the smoke. I'm excited to go through all my favorites and not so favorites and rediscover.

Great news,we knew you could do it :D

Scottw
01-27-2009, 01:39 PM
Nice work!!

bonjing
02-01-2009, 12:32 AM
I have a question about the draw intensity. I take a puff, a nice steady draw what ever will fill my mouth and let it sit. Now a friend wants a taste of the cigar I have and I notice that he takes multipul draws, something like puff, puff, puff, and then draw. Is that good for the cigar or is it overheating it?

Cyanide
02-01-2009, 01:37 AM
I find it improves the smoke volume on some cigars. But, that might have to do with the humidity at which the cigar has been stored at. You might find that "wetter" cigars need more of that puffpuffpuff technique.

Cyanide
02-01-2009, 01:46 AM
I have found that two things that greatly improve any cigar (and I do mean any cigar....taking even a perfect cigar and changing it into a "I've looked into the eye of God" experience)....

1) the Purge. But, I have modified it slightly, more into a mini-purge. About every three or so draws I will put 3 quick "reverse puffs" through the cigar, even with the ash still in place. Then I let the cigar rest for a minute or so. Doesn't seem to appreciably shorten the burning time of a cigar. But, what it does do is it seems to significantly freshen the flavour of what ever cigar you are smoking. I will still throw in the appropriate full-purge as well, whenever the ash falls off.

2) Rinse and spit. I have been meaning to write a thread on the best way to avoid the possible health risks of cigars while still enjoying them. Well, good intentions sometimes cower before staunch procrastination. But, one of the things one can do to possibly limit the chances of laryngeal cancer (one of the risks that doesn't disappear to near-zero simply by having less than 2 cigars a day and not inhaling....it might have to do with swallowing your smoke-ridden saliva) is to rinse your mouth out regularly with water, remembering to spit the water out. This is the first reason I started doing this. However, I soon realizes that a quick swig of cool water, swish it around the mouth a couple of times and then spit it out....also seems to greatly freshen the flavour coming off your cigar. I do this after each smoke-exhale.

Between the mini purge and the swish and spit, my cigars seem to get to that "sweet spot" and stay there much longer. It may seem like much added work...but give it a try, you may find the benefit so astounding that you become an immediate convert.

But that's just my experience.

Cheers

Cyanide

Powers
02-04-2009, 03:17 PM
awesome post! very informative....u have furthered the training of padawan learners everywhere

Snake Eyes
04-04-2009, 09:53 AM
Great post for the newbies...we all were there once with all the same questions that you answered nicely! :ss

kelmac07
04-20-2009, 09:47 PM
Great information for just getting into cigars. Thanks for the post!!

Kwilkinson
04-26-2009, 03:01 PM
Great post Kluggs.

marge796
06-09-2009, 03:41 AM
Good stuff thanks.


:ss


Chris.....

kenstogie
07-07-2009, 06:35 PM
Nice post Dave.

DonniePaul
09-03-2009, 09:15 AM
Awesome post Kluggs!

My goal for the night snorking and purging. :ss

CigarDisciple
09-04-2009, 08:52 AM
It is a good thing that we have people that will take the time to inform others the proper ways to cut, lite and smoke cigars. I have tried to help people in the past, so they can appreciate the true joys of smoking fine cigars. It makes smoking them so much more enjoyable. Thanks for taking that time. :usa

safariguy
09-06-2009, 08:22 AM
Great info. I tried the nose technique last night at it really took the experience to a whole new level. How lucky I am to have learned this so early!

dogface_313
09-06-2009, 12:24 PM
This post is great! I come back to it often.

1badhog07
10-07-2009, 11:03 AM
very well written...

nayslayer
10-13-2009, 07:56 PM
Great info, thanks

Alec Trevelyan
11-07-2009, 05:34 PM
This is a great post. I also do the exhale through the nose just out of habit from my past. I learned a thing or two for sure from this thread!

Namerifrats
11-19-2009, 12:47 AM
Good post! Lots of good info here for beginners and seasoned smokers!

Montano
11-26-2009, 09:33 AM
Is the nasal exhale something done every few puffs, or do you guys do it with every puff ?

68TriShield
11-26-2009, 09:43 AM
Is the nasal exhale something done every few puffs, or do you guys do it with every puff ?

It varies with the individual,some mostly do(my camp),some not so much.

I get the "aroma is the taste" theory.

bobarian
11-26-2009, 09:47 AM
Is the nasal exhale something done every few puffs, or do you guys do it with every puff ?

Much depends on the cigar. With Cuban's its at least 2 out of three puffs for me, but most NC's are too harsh to nasal exhale consistently. Once every 4 or 5 puffs or even less with a peppery cigar like a Pepin Blue. The more you smoke it becomes habitual. I have to tell myself not to snork when I smoke and NC or it will singe my nose hairs. :2

icehog3
11-26-2009, 12:32 PM
Is the nasal exhale something done every few puffs, or do you guys do it with every puff ?

Every puff for me, but I smoke 99% Cuban. I agree with Bob's thoughts reference the NCs.

SilverFox
11-26-2009, 01:23 PM
Every puff for me, but I smoke 99% Cuban. I agree with Bob's thoughts reference the NCs.

:tpd:

Every single puff gets a nasal exhale at the end.............changed my smoking experience for the better in the extreme.

I blame Klugs :tu

iRiSh
11-26-2009, 01:35 PM
interesting read chara, all correct in my opinion

dragon0708
12-06-2009, 03:17 PM
Great post. I found the nose exhale a really good way to taste the flavors as well. I always try the nasal exhale at least once on each smoke. It really depends on what the strength of the smoke is.

Kreth
12-06-2009, 03:30 PM
Great post. I found the nose exhale a really good way to taste the flavors as well. I always try the nasal exhale at least once on each smoke. It really depends on what the strength of the smoke is.
:tpd: except I usually do snork any time there's a flavor change. More with milder cigars, less with the really strong ones.
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Catfish
12-06-2009, 04:40 PM
Every single puff gets a nasal exhale.


QFT. Every puff. I am a 100% snorker. :D:tu

Razorhog
02-23-2010, 04:36 PM
QFT. Every puff. I am a 100% snorker. :D:tu

I find that I am too. I wouldn't exactly call it an exhale though, I just push a little bit of the smoke remaining in my mouth out through my nose (after the initial exhale). I then continue that same motion with my tongue for a bit and the flavors really jump out.

michaelmast
02-26-2010, 01:09 PM
If you're ready to join the ranks of cigar smokers, here is how to get started. The first step is selecting the right cigars to "practice" with. You should start by choosing several different single cigars at your local tobacconist. Do not buy a box of cigars until you have sampled a few singles, first. Don't be afraid to ask the owner or manager for advice.
Choose Cuban Cigars
Cuban cigars are recommended for beginners, since the more full-flavored cigars would most likely taste too strong (or just plain bad) to a new smoker. Cuban cigars are also the least expensive, so you won't have to worry about ruining an expensive cigar by lighting it incorrectly, or by cutting too much off the closed end.
Inspect the Cigar
Once you have determined which type of cigar(s) to purchase, then gently squeeze the cigar to determine if there are any hard or soft spots. You don't want to take a chance on buying a cigar with a bad draw, or worse yet, one that is plugged and not smokeable. Tip: Reputable tobacconists will usually replace a plugged cigar. Also, inspect the wrapper for cracks or discolorations.
Protect & Smoke
If you do not yet own a humidor, do not buy more cigars than you can smoke within a couple of days, and make sure to leave them in their cellophane packaging (if applicable) until you're ready to smoke. Never leave an unprotected cigar exposed to the elements, as it will quickly dry out. You can temporarily store cigars in a Tupperware or similar container.

pnoon
02-26-2010, 01:15 PM
Welcome to Cigar Asylum.

gbum
04-04-2010, 11:43 PM
Cold smoking is a lengthy process of curing salmon also known as dry or wet curing. It typically takes about two to five days to cure, then 12 hours to smoke. Most salmon that people recognize in stores is cold smoked, sold as Nova Salmon. The process starts by placing the fish in a brine (salty solution) preparation which includes sugar (typically brown), salt & pepper, as well as a variety of spices (chosen by the particular tastes of the smokehouse). It is then drained, rinsed carefully, and refrigerated for about half a day.

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bobarian
08-10-2010, 09:55 PM
Nice review.

jbuck
08-20-2010, 04:29 PM
This is good stuff. I met Christian Eroia at a show where he showed me how to exhale thru my nostrils. It changed for ever the appreciation for any cigar. takes a little practice but the rewards are tremendous. yor really begin to understand what herfers mean when they talk about pepper, chocolate, coffee etc.

alexwatts131
09-30-2010, 01:33 AM
You have great post of the Cigar Smoking Technique.Take a short, what I call a 1/2 puff, let it out the side of your mouth while beginning a full puff....kinda like you see pipe smokers do. Exhale slowly with with your lips kinda in a whistling position and enjoy the flavor.

LasciviousXXX
10-02-2010, 10:32 AM
Every so often, its great to go back and read thru threads like this. Always remember the essentials :tu

BloodSpite
10-14-2010, 07:55 AM
This was really informative

Personally I used guillotines only for a short while. Now I just use my thumbnail.Bad habit I guess picked up in Honduras a few years ago.

My own personal preference for lighting is wooden matches.

Sounds weird I guess but I swear I can taste and smell the fuel used in Butane lighters through the cigar.

Wooden matches also seems very traditional and I think I get a much more leveled burn on the tip.

The rest of this was just awesome!-(P

OLS
10-14-2010, 08:28 AM
But, one of the things one can do to possibly limit the chances of laryngeal cancer (one of the risks that doesn't disappear to near-zero simply by having less than 2 cigars a day and not inhaling....it might have to do with swallowing your smoke-ridden saliva) is to rinse your mouth out regularly with water, remembering to spit the water out.


This is strange, but good advice. It is also quoted a bit out of context.

Not a lot of people understand how they get sick to their stomachs when smoking a strong,
or even a mild cigar. In my view it is from swallowing spit laden with nicotine and burn
compounds/chemicals. One could go a long way to cancer prevention with a little rinse
and spit now and again.

Also while it is good advice for tasting purposes, not everyone should be nasal exhaling.
It can sting and permanently casue them to react in a stinging way.

OLS
10-14-2010, 08:53 AM
Sorry, I got distracted by some Aholes and didn't get a chance to edit in time.
If you have EVER had trouble with a sinus infection or irritable sinuses, the snork
is a very bad idea. Once your sinuses start to be irritated by smoke, it will negatively
affect your smoking pleasure for some time to come. YOU KNOW your own sinuses,
and whether or not it is a good idea for you. Be guided by that common sense.:tu

herbertsmith
10-23-2010, 04:17 AM
Thanks for sharing the information regarding cigar smoking techniques.

Katmancross
01-02-2011, 09:38 AM
So you learn a few things along the journey of discovery that is cigar smoking. There are so many, it's what keeps the hobby fresh. Nothing like sitting down next to a brother/sister and "noticing something". I'm pretty slow but over time you pick up things that can be useful.

How you choose to smoke a cigar is many times based upon circumstances. Time constraints, location, need to do something productive while smoking, etc can all have an impact on "how you smoke". The interrelated subject is "what you choose to smoke". Anyone with more than 1 cigar is confronted with this choice.

But.. let's stick with technique.

Once you choose to smoke a specific cigar, for whatever reasons it comes to you to do so (mine more often then not are that I could find it) there are basic things you need to do.

Cut: Most folks use some form of guillotine cutter. Either single blade or dual blade. Lots of hype regarding which style is better and within style which brand. Palio and Xikar being the most popular dual blades. Personally, I tend to cut most cigars with my $ 1.50 single blade Havana cutter. The very thin razor edge seems to be the most reliable for me particularly with crumbly older cigars. However, the Palio and Xikars do a fine job as well. One technique I have seen is to lay the cutter flat on the table, put the cigar in vertically, and make the cut with the cigar head resting on the table. Seems to be pretty good at making a straight cut, particularly with the Xikar and Palio, where a bit of twisting and off angle cuts are easy without a firm steady hand. Going too slowly on a cut is normally where problems of "pinching" occurs. So commit to the cut!

Once you have smoked a particular cigar / box sometimes you find cigars that have a draw that is looser than you prefer. For me, this is the application for a Punch. By making a smaller hole/restricting airflow in the cap vs cutting the whole thing off, the draw can me made to "feel" more normal.

Light: Lots of chatter about "how to" light a cigar. Cedar strips, toasting to avoid flame touching the tobacco with torches, soft flame lighters, etc, etc. From my perspective have never really noticed a difference in flavor based upon "how a cigar was lit". However, there are huge differences in how a cigar smokes based upon the light. I believe that most poorly burning/running cigars start with a bad light.

There are probably an infinite number of ways to get a good light. Here is one. I toast the foot.. flame on or a little off of the tobacco. In between I blow on the glowing foot. Take no draws on the cigar during the process. Try to get the entire foot including the wrapper glowing. Usually its 2-3 toast and blow alternations to get a good even burn. After it is achieved wait a few seconds and start taking light draws on the cigar and recheck the evenness of the burn. If necessary torch and blow again.

Starting with light vs heavy draws on the cigar helps prevent an initial run and improves the burn for the entire cigar.

Draw Intensity: How hard you draw on a cigar has a big impact on the flavors. The nature of a cigar and where it is in its burn interrelate on this issue as well. Drawing too heavily and sharply will tend to heat a cigar beyond it's optimal flavor profile. However, cigars that are too moist (too being relative to what you like) may require heavier or more frequent draws to get the proper amount of smoke. This relates to a separate but related issue of what RH to store your cigars and why some folks choose to "dry box" (store cigars in lower RH just prior to smoking).

Every cigar has it's sweet spot, at least for me, regarding the pace and amount of draw to "get it's best". It's something you need to think about but tends to come naturally... sometimes through a head spinning surprise.

Frequency of Draw: Numbers like every 30 seconds or 45 or 1 minute get thrown out as being the "right pace". I think every cigar has it's optimal pace. Older dryer = lighter puffs, longer intervals. Newer, wetter harder puffs shorter intervals (cuz they will go out is one reason). It really depends mostly on how hard you draw and finding a "pace" that makes the cigar taste best for you.

Nose Modulation: Everything we give him he stick up his nose! (Old Cheech and Chong line) Try eating or smoking something while pinching your nose. No discernible flavors! The sense of taste regarding smoke comes primarily from your nasal cavity. For me it was a serendipitous thing for many years. I'd smoke a cigar... smoke in the mouth, smoke out the mouth. Got preferences. Bought more of them. Basically a happy lil mouth smoking camper. Then the SOB named Bruce noticed my "technique" and showed me the "nose exhale". The world changed from there. Every cigar I smoke I exhale some portion of the inhale consciously through my nose. Milder cigars... more nose. Stronger cigars.. less nose, but every cigar some nose. Usually more nose at the beginning of a cigar less at the end. If you don't do it now, you need to learn.

Summary: Storage RH starts the process. Cutting it right sets the stage. Lighting it evenly positions you for pleasure. But, the combination of finding a cigars pace and consciously modulating the strength of draw and the amount of "nose" on exhale is "it". Once you get "it" there are many paths to enjoy any particular cigar at any point in its all too short death by fire.

Of course we violate many of these rules by hot boxing some of the worlds finest cigars in PPP's.


I quite enjoyed this. Well thought out. Well written. East to understand. Kudos!
Note: Xikar sent me a cutter I hadn't seen before. It looks like your standard inexpensive guillotine cutter but only one side is exposed. On the other side, they've placed a shiny plastic American flag.
So when you place the cap of the cigar into the cutter, it now has a back stop that behaves in the same way as described in this article. It takes the smallest, but necessary, amount of cap. Because it's Xikar, I'm guessing the stainless steel blades are way above average. It's virtually, an idiot proof cutter.

MrT
01-02-2011, 11:34 AM
I quite enjoyed this. Well thought out. Well written. East to understand. Kudos!
Note: Xikar sent me a cutter I hadn't seen before. It looks like your standard inexpensive guillotine cutter but only one side is exposed. On the other side, they've placed a shiny plastic American flag.
So when you place the cap of the cigar into the cutter, it now has a back stop that behaves in the same way as described in this article. It takes the smallest, but necessary, amount of cap. Because it's Xikar, I'm guessing the stainless steel blades are way above average. It's virtually, an idiot proof cutter.

Sounds interesting, got a URL to this item ?

Katmancross
01-02-2011, 11:52 AM
sounds interesting, got a url to this item ?

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I discovered a few minutes ago that this cutter was part of a promo gift for Xmas 2010. But apparently, they don't sell them.

Flounder
06-13-2011, 03:26 PM
Quick question about cutting.

A lot of cigars will come to point on the end you need to cut, how do you all recommend cutting those? I've heard to do it at an angle, but that seems funny to me, but I don't wanna just lop the whole tip off of it. Suggestions?

NCRadioMan
06-13-2011, 03:30 PM
Quick question about cutting.

A lot of cigars will come to point on the end you need to cut, how do you all recommend cutting those? I've heard to do it at an angle, but that seems funny to me, but I don't wanna just lop the whole tip off of it. Suggestions?

Start cutting about the size of a pencil eraser off the tip. Test the draw. If too tight, cut off another 1/8 an inch. Test draw. Repeat as needed.

It's better to not cut enough and adjusting than cutting off too much first.

Flounder
06-13-2011, 03:50 PM
That's what I figured, just wanted to check to see if I was supposed to cut it at the angle or what.

NCRadioMan
06-13-2011, 03:56 PM
That's what I figured, just wanted to check to see if I was supposed to cut it at the angle or what.

You can, that's up to you. I cut them at an angle (dickman cut) but not on purpose all of the time. :al

merry12
07-14-2011, 07:53 AM
Again, let nature take it's course. Once a cigar has run its course, it should naturally extinguish itself. It's poor cigar etiquette to "butt out" a cigar as it will create an unpleasant odor for everyone around you.

Duke9192
07-20-2011, 03:54 PM
Thanks for the post. Great info.

Angry_Pirate
08-07-2011, 08:10 PM
Good to know I'm not doing too much wrong:)

scotch&stogies
08-08-2011, 05:25 AM
I've been smoking cigars on and off for about 5 years and never did the nose exhale. When I read the OP it made a lot of sense that exhaling through my nose would be an important part of experiencing a cigar to the fullest.

With that in mind, I smoked an awesome Cohiba last evening and tried to exhale some of the smoke through my nose. I was definitely struggling with this and only had limited success. That being said, when it did work, I did notice the flavors of the cigar came to life on my palate.

I guess I need to keep working on my technique and hope I figure it out sooner rather than later. Any suggestions?

Moose6026
08-11-2011, 11:29 PM
Fairly new to cigars...soooo much to learn

Aporschaguy
08-12-2011, 12:12 AM
Great post... I agree a sticky for sure...

dannyboy
08-12-2011, 12:25 AM
I've been smoking cigars on and off for about 5 years and never did the nose exhale. When I read the OP it made a lot of sense that exhaling through my nose would be an important part of experiencing a cigar to the fullest.

With that in mind, I smoked an awesome Cohiba last evening and tried to exhale some of the smoke through my nose. I was definitely struggling with this and only had limited success. That being said, when it did work, I did notice the flavors of the cigar came to life on my palate.

I guess I need to keep working on my technique and hope I figure it out sooner rather than later. Any suggestions?

Continue the attempt. I was nowhere near perfect at this technique when I first tried it and had to concentrate very hard to get a bit of smoke out the nose. Practice make perfect, or at least good enough. After about a month of conscious effort to nose exhale it became habit and I now I find it impossible to mouth smoke only.

irratebass
08-12-2011, 03:51 AM
Nice post and I need a better cutter, I picked up a cheapy for $1.49 and I hate it, cuts at an angle. I was taught to cut then light, but after seeing the cigar aficionado's youtube on the 3 match light I really want to try this......seems it will make my smoke more enjoyable.

Other than that I'm pretty much following by the rules heh. Thanks again, lots to learn, and right now I'm a sponge.

LasciviousXXX
08-12-2011, 03:52 AM
I need a better cutter, I


Buy a Palio. You'll never need another :tu

Its pretty much all I ever use.

Bill86
08-12-2011, 04:00 AM
Nice post and I need a better cutter, I picked up a cheapy for $1.49 and I hate it, cuts at an angle. I was taught to cut then light, but after seeing the cigar aficionado's youtube on the 3 match light I really want to try this......seems it will make my smoke more enjoyable.

Other than that I'm pretty much following by the rules heh. Thanks again, lots to learn, and right now I'm a sponge.

I believe there was an entire thread about that 3 match thing. If I'm not mistaken the verdict was if you use good butane, there is/was no noticeable difference. Especially to make it worth spending several minutes to light a cigar.

irratebass
08-13-2011, 06:29 AM
Thanks Ty'r will have to do some looking.

Bill I'm sure there was, I tried this technique with my new butane last night and it way too long and I ended up burning my finger a bit, :confused: I still want to try the 3 match trick.

lukemoney
09-29-2011, 07:03 PM
i use a zippo usually to light my cigars.. i have a butane but have not found easy way to fill the lighter to use.

Lonely Raven
10-03-2011, 02:09 PM
i use a zippo usually to light my cigars.. i have a butane but have not found easy way to fill the lighter to use.

Ugh, Zippo fuel tastes terrible. I wouldn't like a nice cigar with that.


This is a great thread.

I tried the 3 match thing using cedar spills. It took a while, and I swear the cigar had more woody taste to it, and seemed to not be as harsh as the one I had before it. It could (probably) just be that I was taking my time.

I guess I'm not doing too many bad things, seeing as how I've only been smoking cigars for about a month now. I figured the exhale through the nose thing on my own, seeing as how taste has to do with the nose...it still took me a while to figure out *how* to do it without swallowing smoke or inhaling. The first few times I wound up with an upset stomach and belching ashtray flavor...Ugh that was bad.

As for cutting, I'm finding I prefer the punch for everything with a smooth cap. The pigtails and the like I'm using a cheap $2.50 cutter. If I still with cigars, I'll probably pick up a nice boutique cutter. I'd also like to try one of those shurikin (sp?) cutters, but I'm not a cigar biter, so I don't think it will work with me.

Again, great thread!

Eros
04-04-2012, 10:52 PM
So I tried to do the nose exhale or retrohale (are they the same thing?) technique. I didn't notice too much of a difference. I had a Liga Privada Undercrown, a Padron Prinicpe, and an Ashton 898 and some others while on my spring break. These cigars are very different from each other I'm sure. But the only differences I noticed were burn characteristics and smoke output. Some VERY slight flavor pickups but that's it. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, and I am considering dropping the habit. If they all "taste" the same to me, then what's the point? I heard that I may be "clenching shut". But I don't exactly know what that means. Any pointers?

Pseudosacred
04-04-2012, 11:05 PM
Do what I did. Put one cigar in one hand and one in the other. Smoke them both at the same time. No matter what sticks they are, you WILL notice the difference in the two.

While it may not be recommended by anyone else here, it definitely worked for me. I now know what to look for when comparing one cigar to another.

oooo35980
04-05-2012, 01:29 AM
So I tried to do the nose exhale or retrohale (are they the same thing?) technique. I didn't notice too much of a difference. I had a Liga Privada Undercrown, a Padron Prinicpe, and an Ashton 898 and some others while on my spring break. These cigars are very different from each other I'm sure. But the only differences I noticed were burn characteristics and smoke output. Some VERY slight flavor pickups but that's it. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, and I am considering dropping the habit. If they all "taste" the same to me, then what's the point? I heard that I may be "clenching shut". But I don't exactly know what that means. Any pointers?

It is possible that your cigars are dry or you are smoking too fast. Slow it down a bit, swish the smoke in your mouth, then retrohale.

Blak Smyth
04-05-2012, 05:50 AM
So I tried to do the nose exhale or retrohale (are they the same thing?) technique. I didn't notice too much of a difference. I had a Liga Privada Undercrown, a Padron Prinicpe, and an Ashton 898 and some others while on my spring break. These cigars are very different from each other I'm sure. But the only differences I noticed were burn characteristics and smoke output. Some VERY slight flavor pickups but that's it. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, and I am considering dropping the habit. If they all "taste" the same to me, then what's the point? I heard that I may be "clenching shut". But I don't exactly know what that means. Any pointers?

If you can't notice the difference, smoke the cheaper ones. :tu
Your palate will improve some over time.

SmokeyMtns
08-20-2012, 12:56 PM
This is a great thread! As others have already stated, I am going to have to try the nose exhale. Would not have connected the two, thank you!

ThePict
08-20-2012, 11:21 PM
I've been smoking cigars on and off for about 5 years and never did the nose exhale. When I read the OP it made a lot of sense that exhaling through my nose would be an important part of experiencing a cigar to the fullest.

With that in mind, I smoked an awesome Cohiba last evening and tried to exhale some of the smoke through my nose. I was definitely struggling with this and only had limited success. That being said, when it did work, I did notice the flavors of the cigar came to life on my palate.

I guess I need to keep working on my technique and hope I figure it out sooner rather than later. Any suggestions?

Tuck your chin up against your chest. It helps to open your sinuses and makes it easier to learn the habit.
Now, a word of caution! Take it easy at first. The smoke will feel strange running through your nasal cavities and, depending on the strength, can sting a bit. Remember this is for part of your exhale, not the entire puff. Take it easy and learn to enjoy the experience, or be like me ans overdo it at a herf the first time and spend a few minutes in the bathroom deciding if you want to revisit your last meal. A lovely fact that your very best friends will continue to remind you of for years and years to come. LOL :D

dozer
11-02-2012, 12:22 PM
Wait...there is a technique to this??

socalguy75
11-02-2012, 07:35 PM
Thanks for the info! As someone who is new"ish" to cigars, for me it made for good reading.

Neschis4sd
12-20-2012, 07:05 AM
For new to this its great info :):noon

Ryftt
05-22-2013, 12:58 AM
Twas a good read, thanks!

baust55
10-13-2013, 07:01 PM
Good info thanks for all the tips .

Austin

mikesr1963
01-28-2014, 05:19 PM
Why do some folks light the cigar before cutting?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOem4JswMCk

mikesr1963
01-28-2014, 06:21 PM
Excellent original post.

alfredo_buscatti
02-13-2014, 11:17 AM
I've snorked only irregularly, but the tie between smell and taste is clearer to me now.

Moura
06-18-2014, 07:50 AM
Great post, very useful!

bimmerguy82
09-18-2014, 02:41 AM
Forgive my newbness, but in regards to exhaling through the nose, that obviously requires inhaling. I always thought cigars were just meant to be puffed in the mouth and back out? I have accidently inhaled a bit and almost died. Do you inhale just like smoking a cig/joint?;s

Dude Here
09-18-2014, 04:53 AM
Forgive my newbness, but in regards to exhaling through the nose, that obviously requires inhaling. I always thought cigars were just meant to be puffed in the mouth and back out? I have accidently inhaled a bit and almost died. Do you inhale just like smoking a cig/joint?;s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba5rz_eTFPA

The video here gives you a pretty clear rundown of snorking/retrohaling. No smoke actually enters your lungs, only passes through your sinuses. Try this with your next smoke:

1. Take a normal draw off the cigar.
2. Start to exhale out the smoke as you would normally
3. When there's just a little bit of smoke left to exhale close your mouth and finish exhaling through your nose. The smoke will have nowhere else to go but out through your sinuses.

Notice you never once inhaled any of the smoke into your lungs, only forced it out through your nasal passages. I smoked cigs for years before having my first cigar and even then there's no way I can/could inhale a draw from a cigar.

It's important to remember to only retrohale a small amount of smoke out when you're first learning this technique, otherwise you're gonna have an unpleasant experience. Also, don't overdo it with the retrohales. When I was first starting out with cigars I would retro almost every draw. While this made for a very flavorful first 1/3, my sinuses would be fried by the 1/2 way point and the stick would become pretty bland or one-dimensional.

bimmerguy82
09-18-2014, 05:17 AM
Good info. Thanks:tu

pullins10
06-30-2015, 06:35 AM
Great technique and adds to the enjoyment of every cigar

wonmotyme
08-17-2015, 11:34 PM
Great info.

remdoc10
10-23-2015, 09:08 AM
I always wondered why I enjoyed the last little bit of the cigar the most. After reading this post I realized it is because it simultaneously stings the nostrils at that stage. Now I understand how to enjoy the rest of the cigar just as much with the slight nose exhale (for lack of a better term). Thank you!

AdamJoshua
10-23-2015, 09:57 AM
Well hopefully it doesn't sting too much, retrohaling or snorking smoke and having it sting and make my eyes water is not that enjoyable to me. Of course I have a huge effing Jew nose so.... :sh

remdoc10
10-23-2015, 12:05 PM
Well hopefully it doesn't sting too much, retrohaling or snorking smoke and having it sting and make my eyes water is not that enjoyable to me. Of course I have a huge effing Jew nose so.... :sh

Haha.. no it doesn't literally sting, just smells great