Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!)

[N2Advnture]

Have a question regarding humidors, cutters, lighters, etc...?

Ask it here and someone will be along to answer it shorty :tu

~Mark


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[Molarman777]

What do you do when your humi gets that "not so fresh feeling"?
:D.


Thanks for posting this, this is a great place to ask the beginner questions this site has so much knowledge it is kind of scary!:bs


Jason

[N2Advnture]

What do you do when your humi gets that "not so fresh feeling"?

ROFLMAO!

I thought it might be a good place consolidate commonly asked questions instead of finding old threads :tu

[King James]

at what temperature should you start worrying about your cigars in your humi?

[N2Advnture]

at what temperature should you start worrying about your cigars in your humi?

Typically you need to be more concerned the closer you get to 70 degrees as the up temperatures tend to allow dormant tobacco beetle (Lasioderma serricorne, a.k.a. the tobacco or cigarette beetle) larvae to hatch.

Some have experience outbreaks at lower temperatures though and studies on the matter have varying opinions but to be safe, try to stay away from the 70 degrees and higher.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture reports the tobacco beetle's entire growth cycle will occur at temperatures above 65 degrees and assumed that RH is above 40%. Not good.

Early detection systems can help you spot a possible out break and quarantine (called "beetle traps by Serrico)

I hope this helps

~Mark

[Molarman777]

Interesting topic and a great question. Thanks for the info.

[Drat]

I have a basic newbie question about coolidors...

I recently ordered some 65% beads and 38+ sticks in various samplers that will far exceed my 20-ct desktop. I have a cooler that would work in a pinch, but want to know the best/cheapest way to set it up for somewhat long-term use.

Thanks for any help you crazies can provide!

[N2Advnture]

I have a basic newbie question about coolidors...

I recently ordered some 65% beads and 38+ sticks in various samplers that will far exceed my 20-ct desktop. I have a cooler that would work in a pinch, but want to know the best/cheapest way to set it up for somewhat long-term use.

Thanks for any help you crazies can provide!

If you already have a cooler that will be large enough and enough RH Beads, then you're all set.

If going for long term storage, then getting some cedar boxes or sealing them in "seal a meal" bags with a cedar sheet would also improve their aging a bit. (5+ years)

I hope this helps

[Drat]

If you already have a cooler that will be large enough and enough RH Beads, then you're all set.

If going for long term storage, then getting some cedar boxes or sealing them in "seal a meal" bags with a cedar sheet would also improve their aging a bit. (5+ years)

I hope this helps


I guess my definition of "long term" is a little different. I was hoping to have a 200-ct sized humidor by summer.

Thanks for the quick response!

[bigliver]

I store my smokes in my garage. With the winter here, I'm running about 40 degrees at night and about 55 in the day. The cigars are being stored in a vinotemp. How cold is too cold, or is this something I need to worry about? Thanks for the help.

[N2Advnture]

I store my smokes in my garage. With the winter here, I'm running about 40 degrees at night and about 55 in the day. The cigars are being stored in a vinotemp. How cold is too cold, or is this something I need to worry about? Thanks for the help.

Many HK collectors store their cigars for "long term" aging in the mid 50's and having talked to those who have smoked some that were stored that way for over a decade, I may tend to agree with that, that's the way to go.

I think below that may be a issue though but that's just a guess.

I hope this helps

~Mark

[icehog3]

I store my smokes in my garage. With the winter here, I'm running about 40 degrees at night and about 55 in the day. The cigars are being stored in a vinotemp. How cold is too cold, or is this something I need to worry about? Thanks for the help.

Temperature of 40* should not be an issue.....Humidity is much more important, is it remaining stable with the temperature flucuations?

[ahc4353]

I travel a LOT for my sons hockey. Spend many a weekend in New England. Can I leave the travel humi in the car on those cold cold nights or is it just safer to take them in to the hotel room?

[joetownhound]

Yet again another great ideal Mark. Many question that I had already have been asked here in such a short time. Again a great service to us noobs.:salute:

[dunng]

I travel a LOT for my sons hockey. Spend many a weekend in New England. Can I leave the travel humi in the car on those cold cold nights or is it just safer to take them in to the hotel room?

Depends on the neighborhood... :r :r





I would take them in as they might freeze and then would need the appropriate time to defrost before smoking. I don't even leave any in the car for a few hours during the winter. :ss

[poker]

I travel a LOT for my sons hockey. Spend many a weekend in New England. Can I leave the travel humi in the car on those cold cold nights or is it just safer to take them in to the hotel room?

Personally I would try to minimize cigars going from one temperature extreme to another, so if it was me, I would take them inside.

[ahc4353]

Personally I would try to minimize cigars going from one temperature extreme to another, so if it was me, I would take them inside.

Thanks Kelly. That's what I have been doing all these years just cuz I didn't know for sure. Now I do. :D

[poker]

Can you imagine what it would be like lighting a cigar that had an internal temperature of 20F? I can only imagine it would be like trying to light the end of a popsicle. :r

[bigliver]

Temperature of 40* should not be an issue.....Humidity is much more important, is it remaining stable with the temperature flucuations?

The temp is at 67 for the last day or so. Everything was just moved into the vinotemp so I am assuming everything is still stabalizing.

[joetownhound]

I have a HygroSet round adjustable digital hygrometer that I've tried to Calibrate using the salt test. I've followed the instruction of using a bottle top filled with salt that is damped and not soaked. After leaving it for 6 hours to started and then over night the highest I could get it to read is around 38 and 39%. I have turned the dial both ways and still the highest is 38 or 39. Can anyone tell me how to set it or do I have to buy another one. The one that I have it the one picture here http://www.cigarmony.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=81

[bobarian]

Joe, Your salt may not be we enough. You want a slurry, wet but not a solution of dissolved salt. Salt test a minimum of 24 hours. If you think the hygrometer may be bad, wrap it in a moistened paper towel for a few hours and it should read near 100%.

[rack04]

I recently pulled a 300 ct humidor out of retirement. During it's 9 month retirement it sat completely empty. Due to my immediate need for this additional space I was only able to season it a couple days. I have 8 oz of 65% humidity beads and the hygrometer has been calibrated. The humidor has approximately 200 cigars in it. I've noticed that I can't reach humidity levels above 58%. Last night I went as far as to wipe down the inside of the humidor with distilled water. This helped raise the humidity to 65% but this only lasted a couple days. I think this humidor is soaking up moisture like a sponge because it sat for such a long time empty. Any thoughts?

[Beer Doctor]

I recently pulled a 300 ct humidor out of retirement. During it's 9 month retirement it sat completely empty. Due to my immediate need for this additional space I was only able to season it a couple days. I have 8 oz of 65% humidity beads and the hygrometer has been calibrated. The humidor has approximately 200 cigars in it. I've noticed that I can't reach humidity levels above 58%. Last night I went as far as to wipe down the inside of the humidor with distilled water. This helped raise the humidity to 65% but this only lasted a couple days. I think this humidor is soaking up moisture like a sponge because it sat for such a long time empty. Any thoughts?

I broke a 50 count humidor out of retirement a few months ago and it took about three or four rounds of seasoning before it held humidity. I didn't put cigars in until it held humidity for a few days. Good luck :tu

[N2Advnture]

I broke a 50 count humidor out of retirement a few months ago and it took about three or four rounds of seasoning before it held humidity. I didn't put cigars in until it held humidity for a few days. Good luck :tu

I recently pulled a 300 ct humidor out of retirement. During it's 9 month retirement it sat completely empty. Due to my immediate need for this additional space I was only able to season it a couple days. I have 8 oz of 65% humidity beads and the hygrometer has been calibrated. The humidor has approximately 200 cigars in it. I've noticed that I can't reach humidity levels above 58%. Last night I went as far as to wipe down the inside of the humidor with distilled water. This helped raise the humidity to 65% but this only lasted a couple days. I think this humidor is soaking up moisture like a sponge because it sat for such a long time empty. Any thoughts?

I have found that the best way to properly season a humidor is to simply place a bowl of water in the humidor and leave the lid closed for 7-14 days.

This ensures that the wood has absorbed it capacity of water vapor and will hold humidity properly.

I do not recommend wiping down the wood directly with water as this may cause the wood to warp, possibly ruining the seal.

I hope this helps

~Mark

[BrokenSkeg]

I have a wooden humidor that keeps fairly good humidity but it only holds about 50. I was wondering if I could use a water tight plastic box like the ones you use on a boat to keep things dry. Anyone ever tried it?

[68TriShield]

I have a wooden humidor that keeps fairly good humidity but it only holds about 50. I was wondering if I could use a water tight plastic box like the ones you use on a boat to keep things dry. Anyone ever tried it?

A good zip lock bag will work fine. A air tight container isn't the best for storage.

[GreekGodX]

I already have 3 humi's
1. desktop 20 ct
2. desktop 50 ct.
3. Locker about 400 ct.

Just made another big order and I'm not going to have room. Considering a Cooler. How big of cooler do people normally use? I was looking at Rubbermaid 150 qt. marine cooler from Sam's club. I'm clueless as to how big 150qt. actually is. I know it's about 38 gallons which seems more then big enough. Should I get bigger? Smaller?

Also would a cigar oasis/hydra be warranted/recommended for something of this size? or should I just go with 65% beads? or both? I currently use the 65% beads in my humi's and I like them.

[DocLogic77]

Bigger the better. When I first got into this hobby I was told buy more storage than you think you will ever need. That was terrific advice.

[bobarian]

150qt cooler dimensions (L x W x H): 42.75 x 19.5 x 19.0

I actually prefer 48 qt coolers without wheels(unless you need a herf-a-dor)
You can get 4 for about the price of a 150qt. They are easier to store and you can separate your stock. Digging through a 150qt cooler for a single box can be a pain. You will need about 8ozs of beads for each cooler. Also you can set up different rh coolers if that is your preference. :2

[WildBlueSooner]

150qt cooler dimensions (L x W x H): 42.75 x 19.5 x 19.0

I actually prefer 48 qt coolers without wheels(unless you need a herf-a-dor)
You can get 4 for about the price of a 150qt. They are easier to store and you can separate your stock. Digging through a 150qt cooler for a single box can be a pain. You will need about 8ozs of beads for each cooler. Also you can set up different rh coolers if that is your preference. :2

:tpd: In fact I think I might be picking up a 48qt...if I dont get a vinotemp!

[Da Klugs]

I already have 3 humi's
1. desktop 20 ct
2. desktop 50 ct.
3. Locker about 400 ct.

Just made another big order and I'm not going to have room. Considering a Cooler. How big of cooler do people normally use? I was looking at Rubbermaid 150 qt. marine cooler from Sam's club. I'm clueless as to how big 150qt. actually is. I know it's about 38 gallons which seems more then big enough. Should I get bigger? Smaller?

Also would a cigar oasis/hydra be warranted/recommended for something of this size? or should I just go with 65% beads? or both? I currently use the 65% beads in my humi's and I like them.

Biggest you have the space to fit it in is my motto. You don't end up buying your next one because the first one was to big. :D I bought one of those really big fishing coolers and you can get 1670 cigars in one. Maybe 1690. :)

It wont fit / stack in the closet though so I only have room for 1 under my desk. Have the big blue Colemans stacked in the closet.

[BrokenSkeg]

150qt cooler dimensions (L x W x H): 42.75 x 19.5 x 19.0
You will need about 8ozs of beads for each cooler. :2

Ok, I know I'm a fungy but what are beads? I'm assuming something for humidity? Thanks. I didn't think about the cooler idea.

[leasingthisspace]

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=618&highlight=beads


Great reading here.

[GreekGodX]

I didn't really consider storage of the cooler. A 48 qt might be the way to go as far as not taking up too much space in my house. But in the end it might just be worth it to get the biggest one so I don't have to worry about it for a while.

[BrokenSkeg]

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=618&highlight=beads


Great reading here.

Thanks Tabb

[AD720]

While the 150 qt coolers are really nice I've found that the 120 qt for more than half of the price work really well and hold almost the same amount. So for the same $$ you can get two 120 qts and have 80% more space. :2

[XTRazzer]

Here's two for the gurus...

Is the basement a good place to keep the humidor? Temperature stays low but is mold now a concern?

If I had a coolador but no basement and the apartment temperatures reach into 75°F during the day, how can I keep the inside of the coolador below 70°F?

Thanks.

[AD720]

Here's two for the gurus...

Is the basement a good place to keep the humidor? Temperature stays low but is mold now a concern?

If I had a coolador but no basement and the apartment temperatures reach into 75°F during the day, how can I keep the inside of the coolador below 70°F?

Thanks.

My coolers live in the basement but my basement is not any more humid (most likely less humid) than the rest of the house so I'm not any more concerned about mold. I'm less worried about beetles when they are in the basement due to the lower temp.

I've heard of guys putting ice packs in ziplocks and toss them in the coolers.

[ca21455]

Here's two for the gurus...

Is the basement a good place to keep the humidor? Temperature stays low but is mold now a concern?

If I had a coolador but no basement and the apartment temperatures reach into 75°F during the day, how can I keep the inside of the coolador below 70°F?

Thanks.

My cabinet is in the basement. Most of the basement is finished (except the room the cabinet is in) but the ventillation system is running in the room. During the winter it is dry just like the rest of the house. In the summer the humidity does get above 65% so I run a dehumidifier.

[DocLogic77]

Here's two for the gurus...

Is the basement a good place to keep the humidor? Temperature stays low but is mold now a concern?

If I had a coolador but no basement and the apartment temperatures reach into 75°F during the day, how can I keep the inside of the coolador below 70°F?

Thanks.

I love the basement for storage. Now, if your basement smells like musty feet...maybe not. :)

[icehog3]

I love the basement for storage. Now, if your basement smells like musty feet...maybe not. :)

Have you been in my basement, Shawn? :r

[GreekGodX]

Update bought a cooler 70qt cooler from Costco today for $39.99 and got about 10 cigar boxes from the B&M too. Well on my way. Thanks for the help guys! :tu :dance:

[Chingo]

Here's two very basic questions I'm surprised hasn't been asked in this thread:

-Cutters. Does using a basic guillotine cutter vs. a more expensive scissor-type cutter make any noticeable difference?

-Lighters. Is there anything horrible about regular Bic lighters that would warrant a $50+ jet flame lighter?

Thanks!

[AllOGistics]

I've never noticed a huge difference between cutter types when used properly. I do have a preference sometimes depending on size and/or shape of the cigar. This is just personal preference. Someone may have more in depth knowledge in regards to specific cutters.

There is a difference when using a Bic vs a butane lighter. The Bic-style can impart flavors to the tobacco. If you are looking for a cheaper alternative, you can get a Ronson Jetlight for about $3 at Walmart. They are a decent lighter and the price is right.

[GKitty]

+1 on the Ronsons

[icehog3]

-Lighters. Is there anything horrible about regular Bic lighters that would warrant a $50+ jet flame lighter?

Thanks!

There is a difference when using a Bic vs a butane lighter. The Bic-style can impart flavors to the tobacco. If you are looking for a cheaper alternative, you can get a Ronson Jetlight for about $3 at Walmart. They are a decent lighter and the price is right.

Good call, Greg...no need to spend $50 if you don't want to, but definitely keep the Bic away from the cigars. :)

[N2Advnture]

Here's two very basic questions I'm surprised hasn't been asked in this thread:

-Cutters. Does using a basic guillotine cutter vs. a more expensive scissor-type cutter make any noticeable difference?

-Lighters. Is there anything horrible about regular Bic lighters that would warrant a $50+ jet flame lighter?

Thanks!

A lot of what cutter & lighter to use does boil down to personal preference. A couple of things to compare when trying to decide might help though.

Cutters:
The "action" is a huge personal choice. Double guillotine, single guillotine, punch, scissors, hybrid scissors (ie Xikar, SAK, Revoluccion scissors, etc...)

You mention the cheap plastic cutters. I would not recommend the single bladed guillotine cutters as they tend to crush the cigar rather than cut it. Some of the "cheap" double guillotine cutters work well for a short period of time but due to the cheap blade, they dull & break quickly.

I use a variety of cutters depending on the cigar and just to keep it interesting (i use a punch for smaller ring gauges and scissors & double guillotines for larger ring gauges but also use my finger nail "cuban style" in a pinch)

These are the typical top choices for a quality cutter are:
Palio (double guillotine w/ life time warranty)
Xikar (hybrid scissors w/ life time warranty)
Cuban Crafters scissors (standard scissors w/ life time warranty)
Wenger SAk w/ cigar cutter (hybrid scissors, 5 year warranty?)
Xikar Punch (punch cutter w/ life time warranty)

Lighters are all over the place and style of the body and flame type (torch, soft flame butane, matches, wind proof, etc...) play the biggest part in choosing.

Be careful in whatever flame you choose that it doesn't contain sulfur that will impart a horrible flavor in your cigar (typical w/ cheap lighters and most matches - get sulfur free matches).

For fun, try a cedar splint. It's about the most "pure" way to light a cigar, plus it's not typical which makes it fun.

These are the typical top choices for a quality cutter are:
Blazer PB-207 (large tank and very reliable)
Xikar (various flame choices all w/ life time warranty)
Solo Trek (dual flame w/ life time warranty even 50% of MSRP against theft or loss)
ST Dupont X-tend
Evertech (soft flame and torch butane flames in one)
Bugatti 1 (this is about the nicest lighter that I've ever used)
Porsche Designs
Nibo dual flames (cheap throw aways but tend to last a long time and you don't care if you lose them)
Sulfur free matches

Just some of what I've experienced over the past 16+ years of smoking cigars. Part of the "fun" of the hobby to me is learning this stuff along the way so try all the styles out to see what you like the most.

I hope this helps

~Mark

[bonjing]

how cold is too cold for cigars? i just picked up a dual zone haier cooler and the top goes as high as 54 degrees and the lower half runs as high as 65 degrees. Is the 54 degrees too cold for the sticks?

[GROSSR]

Been smoking for years, but never had a humidor. I am getting one next week, used, read about seasoning, humi beads and the like.

My question is about the humidor, it is 8 x 9 x 16, it has shelves in it, can I stack different types of cigars on top of each other, or should the same cigars stay on top of each other? If I have to seperate them what could one use to keep them apart?

thanks

rich

[ucla695]

Congrats on pulling the trigger on your first humi!! You can stack different types of cigars together. I've done so for years in my desktops and have never noticed any difference in how the cigars taste..

[N2Advnture]

Congrats on pulling the trigger on your first humi!! You can stack different types of cigars together. I've done so for years in my desktops and have never noticed any difference in how the cigars taste..

The only thing that I would add is to keep flavored cigars in a separate humidor :tu

[GROSSR]

I purchased 70% beads. Now I am reading you experienced guys have 65% beads, and then I see 60% beads.

I know this has to do something with a personal preference and I am sure the 70% is ok. Why would one want 60% vs 65% vs 70%.

I certainly understand the concept of RH, and the beads on ebay are cheap. So I am not concerned about 5.00 for beads.

What are your thoughts on these different RH beads.

Thanks again

Rich

[icehog3]

Personal taste is ultimately the deciding factor, Rich.

I prefer my smokes around 63%. No need to drybox, they burn well and taste great.

Some people think that Cuban cigars smoke better at 65% or so, and that non-Cuban cigars are better around 70%. The vast majority of cigars in my humdior are CCs, but I still find 70% too "wet" for non-Cubans. I tend to have burn issues with cigars that are that wet.

[Kreth]

To add to what Tom said: many of the members here use beads from Cigarmony, Heartfelt, or shilala. Even a small humi can represent a substantial investment in smokes. I'd prefer to spend a little more and know that my sticks will be safe.

[drunkentester]

I have a total noob question regarding RH in a humidor. It seems after much research, most forum members and premium cigar fans seems to favor 65% humidity. While I know whether 65% or 70% is a topic of debate amongst the consumers, it seems like the standard cigar industry stance is always recommending 70% (noticed this while browsing different cigar brands websites).

My question is: Why is there such a discrepancy between what the cigar manufacturers recommend and what the enthusiasts recommend?

Thanks,

Dennis

[icehog3]

Dennis....most of the manufacturers are makers of Non-Cuban cigars, and even many enthusiasts prefer non-Cubans closer to 70%.

I would take the word of those that have been collecting, storing and smoking cigars out of love of the leaf, not the love of profit. The majority of enthusiasts I know (myself included) like their cigars at 65% or even lower (62-63% myself). Less burn issues, better aging, better draw....of course this is all based on personal experiences, so it is subjective.

[drunkentester]

Thanks for the quick reply Icehog. In my experience, I also find that listening to the enthusiasts (especially when most take the same stance) is the way to go, no matter what the manufacturers recommend. It just seemed odd to me that none of the major manufacturers seem to even offer up 65% RH as an option to their consumers (except for people who have a financial stake at selling RH products, like Boveda and others).

I've bought some 65% RH beads from Heartfelt and haven't had any problems with the sticks in my humi.

Thanks!

--Dennis

[icehog3]

Thanks for the quick reply Icehog. In my experience, I also find that listening to the enthusiasts (especially when most take the same stance) is the way to go, no matter what the manufacturers recommend. It just seemed odd to me that none of the major manufacturers seem to even offer up 65% RH as an option to their consumers (except for people who have a financial stake at selling RH products, like Boveda and others).

I've bought some 65% RH beads from Heartfelt and haven't had any problems with the sticks in my humi.

Thanks!

--Dennis

I agree with you 100% Dennis...good luck with the humidor, and hope you stick around, it's a great community here. :)

[Eleven]

I have this box I bought on Ebay, its big enough for the short term while my bigger one is being made, and it seems to keep ok RH, but one corner of the lid does not sit totally flush, I can feel a slight movement when I push down on the corner, is there a way to remedy this without major work? Like a weather-seal type of material or some other DIY stuff?

Here is the box opened and closed:

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8185/img00015200908212118.jpg

And...

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1594/img00014200908212117.jpg

[bobarian]

If the box is holding a constant humidity, then it may not be necessary to do any additional sealing. You can use short pieces of masking tape to tighten the gap. :2

[Slavac]

http://img.cigarsinternational.com/p/500/m/h/m-hav300.jpg

Pretend you've just purchased this rather nice humidor. Would you mind going step by step what you'd do to get it ready for cigars? Preferably how to season, how long, beads or no, and how long before I can add cigars.

Thanks guys.

[NCRadioMan]

Pretend you've just purchased this rather nice humidor. Would you mind going step by step what you'd do to get it ready for cigars? Preferably how to season, how long, beads or no, and how long before I can add cigars.

Thanks guys.
I have several humidors like the Foot Locker. There are several ways to season and what I do is not commonly adhered too but it works for me. I wiped down the humidor with a lightly, I repeat lightly, damp cloth of distilled water. Then I placed a bowl of distilled water in the microwave and heated it up for 30 seconds and placed it in the humidor. I repeated that every 12 hours for 2 days. The humidity was very high so I let it come down naturally to about 70%. It took a few more days for that to happen. Then loaded them up. They keep great humidity and I keep them between 59 and 63%. Alot of folks say not to wipe down because it can warp the wood. But if done lightly, I don't think there will a problem. I have always done it with no problems.

Beads are a great way to maintain humidity and I recommend them as I am sure the majority here does, as well. You should be able to take those humidifiers that come with it and take the foam out and place beads in there but I recommend you place your humidifier source in the bottom center of the humidor. Humidity rises.

Good luck!

[bobarian]

:tpd: I agree that wiping it down with a slightly damp cloth will not harm a good humidor. It can cause warpage in the cheapies that use cedar plywood.

Heartfelt beads are the way to go for Rh maintenance. They are like magic and will last for many years. I think most use 65% beads and keep Rh between 62 and 65%. :2

Be sure to take some pics as you fill that baby up!:tu

[BlackDog]

I wiped mine with a damp towel as well. Trays also. Then I put a bowl of water with a new sponge in it, and an Oust fan. I let it get a bit over hunidified and then brought it back down to 65%. I use Shilala's 65% beads, work excellently,

[Slavac]

Followup question: I've 200 cigars and only 50ct of seasoned humidor to put them in currently. The chest humidor just arrived yesterday.

Can I keep cigars in the 300ct humidor while seasoning? If not, what should I do with them?

Thanks for the answers guys!

[icehog3]

You will be spiking the humidity in the 300 count while seasoning it, so that would not be wise.

If you have a tupperware container that seals well, they should be fine in there for a few days until the humi is ready.

[drunkentester]

Hi Everyone,

I have a question about different types of cutters. Is there some general recommendations on when to use a V-cut or a punch cut? I know I've read that the size and shape of the cigar comes in play, but I haven't read any firm recommendations.

I'm currently using just the standard double-guillotine Xikar cutter on all my cigars since that's all I have. Am I missing out on something based on always using a guillotine cut on my cigars?

Thanks,

--Dennis

[icehog3]

All I use is a guillotine cut, I prefer it personally, but it is all a matter of choice. :)

[tedrodgerscpa]

I use a double guillotine (specifically a Palio) 99% of the time, but I agree with Tom.

If I were attempting to tackle a +54 ring gauge cigar, I'd probably be more inclined to punch it first, then cut if the punch didn't work out.

It's all a matter of personal choice.

[N2Advnture]

Hi Everyone,

I have a question about different types of cutters. Is there some general recommendations on when to use a V-cut or a punch cut? I know I've read that the size and shape of the cigar comes in play, but I haven't read any firm recommendations.

I'm currently using just the standard double-guillotine Xikar cutter on all my cigars since that's all I have. Am I missing out on something based on always using a guillotine cut on my cigars?

Thanks,

--Dennis

It's really personal preference.

I use a double guillotine cutter most of the time just but on thinner ring gauge cigars, I use a small punch.

I also use my thumb nail or a sharp pocket knife to cut around the perimeter of the cap to just remove the cap (I actually prefer this method the most)

~Mark

[rack04]

Just to add a little to the discussion about cutters. I am using my Palio double guillotine cutter less and less. Most of the time I just use my fingernail to remove a portion of the cap. This works very well for me except with particular vitolas that have a tapered head, i.e. Campana, Piramide, etc. This further proves that a lot of things about this hobby is personal preference.

[cabinets]

I just got a 1000 count cabinet humi. I also got a Cigar Oasis XL PLUS humidifier. A buddy told me the Oasis will season the humi fully overnight. Seems wrong but I wanna believe. Wise to put around 300 sticks (most in boxes) in after a day of running the Oasis?

[NCRadioMan]

I would give it at least a couple or three day of days. But that's just me.

[N2Advnture]

I would give it at least a couple or three day of days. But that's just me.

I agree, I'd give it 5-10 days.

In a cabinet, it's wise to place 3 calibrated, digital hygrometers throughout (top, middle & bottom).

After a few days, see where you are at each.

Don't let your excitement get the best of you. You should wait a little longer than you think to ensure that the new wood has absorb it's capacity of h2o.

As you add cigars, you may the RH drop as well.

I hope this helps

~Mark

[Wraiith]

What's the best travel humidor for the money? I am looking for one that can hold at least 15 and will keep them safe and in good condition if one were to go hiking, camping, the like....

And once you get a travel humidor, is there anything special you need to do to make it ideal for more rough (and possibly lengthy: more than 2 day) expeditions?

Thanks all!

[Wraiith]

And to piggy back on that last post, since I am so new to cigars and pipe smoking, I need a humidor because I either have to store the cigars and tobacco on my desk open to the elements (harsh, I know) or I have to store them in a friend's humidor (not a problem, but not ideal).

I've been told by a very reliable source that a humidor is a humidor is a humidor. However, I'd still be interested to hear any ideas from y'all regarding size, product lines to stay away from (bad seals, etc), and just any information in general!

Thanks again in advance for all your help!!

[markem]

What's the best travel humidor for the money? I am looking for one that can hold at least 15 and will keep them safe and in good condition if one were to go hiking, camping, the like....

And once you get a travel humidor, is there anything special you need to do to make it ideal for more rough (and possibly lengthy: more than 2 day) expeditions?

Thanks all!

In my view, one of the very best if Cigarcaddy. Otterbox sold off the cigarcaddy line to some of their employees and they are now at http://www.cigarcaddy.com/

If you aren't going for more than a week, then this is what I recommend:

1. Take all the foam trays out of the cigarcaddy - you won't need them
2. Pack your cigars in 5-finger bags. These keep them separated and provides some cushioning to prevent cigar damage.

Go forth and enjoy. I've checked my 30 count cigarcaddy in soft sided luggage for international travel and never had a stick broken using the above method. I can get about 50 sticks in the 30 count using this method. However, I almost never check it if I can help it.

the zip-lock format of the 5-finger bags will seal in the humidity and the air tight seal on the cigarcaddy helps as well. For travel on an airplane, I suggest one with a pressure relief valve or you might have to wrestle with it to get the box to open after the flight. The rugged and nearly indestructible PVC plastic is a great plus.

I have 3 cigarcaddys, all gifted to me. Love em. Oh yeah, they are waterproof.

[colimo]

:tpd:
i agree on the cigar caddy....i would get at least the 18 or 30 count, they both come with the pressure relief valve and are virutally indestructible...and as you go forth you will fill and take them with you...

the 30 ct can also double as your desktop if needed....just put some beads in a tube with it and you are good

[Wraiith]

Sounds great! Thanks all. I'm probably going to be hitting up cigar caddy very soon now, haha

[N2Advnture]

Great tips.

Also, the Puck-ifier was designed to fit into the lid of the existing hole in the Xikar 18, 30 & 50 count travel humidors (a hole can easily be cut in the lid foam of the Cigar Caddy).

I hope this helps

~Mark

[Bartolomeo]

If I want my RH @ 65% lets say, does it matter what the actual temperature is?

For example, if I had 65*/65% or 70*/65% or 75*/65%.........Is there one temperature that is ideal or does it not matter b/c my RH is at 65%?

I see some humis plugged in and some not and the temps are all over the place, just curious if temperatue really mattered as long as your getting your ideal RH numbers?

Hope this makes sense :)

Bart

[icehog3]

The temperature does make a difference, Bart, as temps which are consistently above 70*F can create conditions which lead to the hatching of beetle eggs. The eggs can lay dormant in the cigar leaves for long periods of time, and can hatch when temperatures are elevated.

[whogamawut]

I have a cheap cutter I picked up for a penny. It actually just smashes and tears my cigars rather then cut them. Before I go spend money on a nice cutter I was wondering if I could get some feedback on ones you guys have found to work best.

[icehog3]

I have a cheap cutter I picked up for a penny. It actually just smashes and tears my cigars rather then cut them. Before I go spend money on a nice cutter I was wondering if I could get some feedback on ones you guys have found to work best.

Palio....the best in my opinon and many others'. The owner of the company is a member here as well (OpusEx - Marc). :tu

http://www.paliocutters.com/

[pnoon]

Palio....the best in my opinon and many others'. The owner of the company is a member here as well (OpusEx - Marc). :tu

http://www.paliocutters.com/

Yer a fart smeller . . . er . . . . smart feller, Tom. :)

[whogamawut]

cool thanks

[icehog3]

Yer a fart smeller . . . er . . . . smart feller, Tom. :)

I have no choice when I sit next to you, Buddy. :r

[pnoon]

I have no choice when I sit next to you, Buddy. :r

Oh. A wise guy, eh . . .

http://boxoffice.com/blogs/steve/curly.jpg

[icehog3]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/stooges.jpg

Nyuk nyuk nyuk!

[GreekGodX]

I have a cheap cutter I picked up for a penny. It actually just smashes and tears my cigars rather then cut them. Before I go spend money on a nice cutter I was wondering if I could get some feedback on ones you guys have found to work best.

Palio....the best in my opinon and many others'. The owner of the company is a member here as well (OpusEx - Marc). :tu

http://www.paliocutters.com/

Xikar also makes a good cutter. It was my first cutter and it was a great cutter. The problem is I got a Palio and you should do the same :tu

Just wanted to give you another option. Both have lifetime warranties and are comparable in price.

Xikar.com (http://www.xikar.com/main.asp)

[Slavac]

My humidor regularly sees 75deg+ inside according to my hydrometers.

Any issues here?

The heartfelt beads are keeping it at a solid 70% humidity, so no worries there.

[bobarian]

My humidor regularly sees 75deg+ inside according to my hydrometers.

Any issues here?

The heartfelt beads are keeping it at a solid 70% humidity, so no worries there.

Temps of over 75 degrees can lead to a beetle infestation. Most cigars are now treated at the factories and again at many domestic warehouses. But there is always a chance of a beetle or two finding there way to your stash after treatment. Many of us freeze our cigars before putting them in coolers or humidors if there is a chance temps will be high for an extended period of time.

[Slavac]

Temps of over 75 degrees can lead to a beetle infestation. Most cigars are now treated at the factories and again at many domestic warehouses. But there is always a chance of a beetle or two finding there way to your stash after treatment. Many of us freeze our cigars before putting them in coolers or humidors if there is a chance temps will be high for an extended period of time.

Gotcha. Guess I'll start freezing them in batches to avoid that worry. Thanks!

[bobarian]

Gotcha. Guess I'll start freezing them in batches to avoid that worry. Thanks!

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7919&highlight=freezing

[Ferrari5180]

I am about to start seasoning my Humidor, and I feel that putting a bowl of distilled water instead of wiping down the wood would be best.

Q: When I season the humidor, should the beads be in place, or should I only put the beads inside the humidor after the seasoning process?

Thanks

[pnoon]

I am about to start seasoning my Humidor, and I feel that putting a bowl of distilled water instead of wiping down the wood would be best.

Q: When I season the humidor, should the beads be in place, or should I only put the beads inside the humidor after the seasoning process?

Thanks

I would wait until after the humidor is seasoned to place beads in it. You want the humidor to absorb the moisture - not the beads.
:2

[Ferrari5180]

Thanks for that answer m8, oh and for the quick response. Also, should I wipe down the humidor and then place the bowl, or should i just stick with the bowl theory? This seems safest to me, but I do not want warping to occur.

My analog hygrometer read 76% after the salt test, which i heard is quite rare for analog one's. So, on that I am happy. Receiving digital in a few days however. Thanks

[mravery]

Guys

Is the temp issue ONLY to gaurd against beetles?

If you freeze your sticks before putting them in the humi (my house ranges between 74-84 in the summer, Florida sucks :td).... are there any other issues I could run into?

The humi rh stays around 72-75

So.... 77temp/75Rh... = ?? problems?

BTW.. I ordered a Edgestar 28 bottle (wood style) wine cooler yesterday :su

Cheers
Mark

[pnoon]

Guys

Is the temp issue ONLY to gaurd against beetles?

If you freeze your sticks before putting them in the humi (my house ranges between 74-84 in the summer, Florida sucks :td).... are there any other issues I could run into?

The humi rh stays around 72-75

So.... 77temp/75Rh... = ?? problems?

BTW.. I ordered a Edgestar 28 bottle (wood style) wine cooler yesterday :su

Cheers
Mark

RH of 72%-75%, IMO is way too high.

Generally accepted ranges are 60%-70%. It's all a matter of personal preference.
Personally, I prefer 65%.

[Starscream]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/icehog3/stooges.jpg

Nyuk nyuk nyuk!

:r
Why does the photoshop pic of Moe still look like Moe? I never noticed the resemblance before, Admiral!;)

[icehog3]

:r
Why does the photoshop pic of Moe still look like Moe? I never noticed the resemblance before, Admiral!;)

Why I oughtta...... :r

[bigheadmark]

What is the proper way to "drybox" cigars...?

[NCRadioMan]

What is the proper way to "drybox" cigars...?

Put a cigar in a box without humidification. Or just place it on the counter for a few days.

[Santesyu]

Is there any other methods of trying to prelong a cigar without a humidor? Atleast 2 weeks tops? maybe 3..

[NCRadioMan]

Is there any other methods of trying to prelong a cigar without a humidor? Atleast 2 weeks tops? maybe 3..

Ziplock bag is fine for a few weeks. Tupperware or Gladware is a good alternative too.

[Santesyu]

Ziplock bag is fine for a few weeks. Tupperware or Gladware is a good alternative too. If I did it that way how long do you the average cigar can last up to?

[Barteur]

If I did it that way how long do you the average cigar can last up to?

If the conditions inside the tupperdor are good I would say as long as you wish. Look at the cooler threads you will see what I mean:tu Many of the brothers have them here and with great success.

[NCRadioMan]

If I did it that way how long do you the average cigar can last up to?

In a ziplock, 3-4 weeks before I would start be concerned. In tupperware or gladware, years. I have had a Gladware container full of cigars for over two years and the humidity has stayed at 65% like a rock. Coolers are another great alternative that many of us use. You can always place humidifiers in any of these and keep cigars in there indefinitely.

[PuffdaMagic]

is it okay to leave the plastic wrapper on a cigar if storing it for a long period of time?

[Zanaspus]

is it okay to leave the plastic wrapper on a cigar if storing it for a long period of time?

Many prefer leaving the cello on. Age old debate, on or off. Cello is gas permeable and will allow proper aging. It also protects from damage. I take mine off, but that's just one BOTL's preference.

[The EVP]

is it okay to leave the plastic wrapper on a cigar if storing it for a long period of time?

I store it just like I bought it. If the manu put it on, they did so for a reason.

[trojan_knight]

I have been part of CI's cigar club for a few months and have bought a few samplers. I am really pleased with 5 Vegas classics, any CAO, and my favorite so far are the Montecristo Media Noche.

so now to a total newb Q.:

I know everyone's tastes are different but, here in Wyoming I can't go and sniff or check out many cigars. So, do the masters here have any suggestions for a neophyte like me, given my above statement?

Thanks

[NCRadioMan]

Easy. Try everything you can. It takes years but it's a fun ride. :tu

[trojan_knight]

Thanks, that has been my approach. I will take anything I can get but I do not like paying for sub-par stuff. I am not sure how to sort out junk from good, without any input other than, pics, the occasional review, and my very limited experience.

[bobarian]

I have been part of CI's cigar club for a few months and have bought a few samplers. I am really pleased with 5 Vegas classics, any CAO, and my favorite so far are the Montecristo Media Noche.

so now to a total newb Q.:

I know everyone's tastes are different but, here in Wyoming I can't go and sniff or check out many cigars. So, do the masters here have any suggestions for a neophyte like me, given my above statement?

Thanks

Read reviews here and see what others are smoking. Try and pick up a fiver here and there on cigarbid, joecigar or cigarmonster. Try as many different brands and blends as you can. When you find one you like, then check some of the big sites to find other cigars of similar profile. Take notes on what you like and have fun. :2

[Whee]

Thanks, that has been my approach. I will take anything I can get but I do not like paying for sub-par stuff. I am not sure how to sort out junk from good, without any input other than, pics, the occasional review, and my very limited experience.


One man's junk food is another man's fine cuisine.

I was a sampler whore when I started. Smoked a lot of crappy cigars to find the ones that I really liked.

Keep smoking.:ss

[stj386]

Hello,
I have a huge problem where i cant get the temperature in my humidor below 84 degrees. I live in Hawaii and my apartment stay pretty hot day and night year round. I currently have my humidor in the closet with a fan circulation air but its not helping . Additionally I'm trying to keep the humidity low so as to not allow tobacco bugs to hatch but i dont know if that will help. I heard that freezing the cigars for two days will kill the bugs; and that if they are properly resorted to room temperature that they will be fine to smoke in a few days.
So i guess what Im asking is, are there any other ways to cool my humidor and should I go ahead an freeze my cigars?

[DPD6030]

Hello,
I have a huge problem where i cant get the temperature in my humidor below 84 degrees. I live in Hawaii and my apartment stay pretty hot day and night year round. I currently have my humidor in the closet with a fan circulation air but its not helping . Additionally I'm trying to keep the humidity low so as to not allow tobacco bugs to hatch but i dont know if that will help. I heard that freezing the cigars for two days will kill the bugs; and that if they are properly resorted to room temperature that they will be fine to smoke in a few days.
So i guess what Im asking is, are there any other ways to cool my humidor and should I go ahead an freeze my cigars?

I would freeze your cigars for sure. I do with every cigar that comes in just to be safe. I freeze for 72 hours.

No real way to cool your humidor unless you have air conditioning or a basement. Keep it in the coolest darkest place.

[theonlybear4CORT]

What cigar pairs best with iced chi tea?

[bobarian]

I would freeze your cigars for sure. I do with every cigar that comes in just to be safe. I freeze for 72 hours.

No real way to cool your humidor unless you have air conditioning or a basement. Keep it in the coolest darkest place.

Freezing is the way to go. Here is a good thread to read. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7919&highlight=freezing
72hours at minimum in your climate. :tu Once you freeze you can display your humidor as long as it doesnt get direct sunlight.

High humidity can lead to mold, but beads should keep your smokes at a constant Rh. I recommend 65% Heartfelt beads. :2

[bobarian]

What cigar pairs best with iced chi tea?


I would recommend Peach White Owl Blunts to pair with that tea, Mike! :D

[icehog3]

I would recommend Peach White Owl Blunts to pair with that tea, Mike! :D

Good way to ruin a perfectly good cigar! :r

[theonlybear4CORT]

I would recommend Peach White Owl Blunts to pair with that tea, Mike! :D

Wanna meet up for a tea and peach blunt brunch?


:ss

[mariogolbee]

I would recommend Peach White Owl Blunts to pair with that tea, Mike! :D
I thought a Moontrance would do the trick.

Wanna meet up for a tea and peach blunt brunch?


:ss
I do. Only if I can smoke it backwards though.

[bobarian]

I thought a Moontrance would do the trick.


That's because you are a noob and dont know any better!:r

Those with experienced palates know that you pair a Moontrance with Herbal tea not chai!:rolleyes:

[Subvet642]

Hi Folks! I'm thinking of a new lighter, and it seems to me that a jet type would be best, but I've seen models with two and three jets. Do these multi jet lighters have any advantages to them? If so, what?

[Zanaspus]

Hi Folks! I'm thinking of a new lighter, and it seems to me that a jet type would be best, but I've seen models with two and three jets. Do these multi jet lighters have any advantages to them? If so, what?
I'm sure others will have different opinions. I like a single jet. Burns less fuel and does the trick. The only advantage to multi-jet in my mind is faster toasting, but, meh, I'm patient when I sit down with a cigar.

[Subvet642]

I'm sure others will have different opinions. I like a single jet. Burns less fuel and does the trick. The only advantage to multi-jet in my mind is faster toasting, but, meh, I'm patient when I sit down with a cigar.


That makes sense, and it would seem that a single jet would be more precise. Thanks.

[NCRadioMan]

That makes sense, and it would seem that a single jet would be more precise. Thanks.

I wouldn't say it's more precise. It's all how the user uses it. I can touch up a cigar with a 4 burner just as neat and easy as a single. I like the triple and quad torches simply because it covers more surface area at once and lights quickly. My cheap triple torch has a large tank and lasts alot longer than any single I have ever had, fwiw.

[Subvet642]

...I like the triple and quad torches simply because it covers more surface area at once and lights quickly. My cheap triple torch has a large tank and lasts alot longer than any single I have ever had, fwiw.


I'm glad I asked; there's a lot to consider before investing in one.

[CigarNut]

I have regular (non-torch) and 1, 2, and 3 burner torches and I find that each has its place. I like the regular lighter for travel, the one burner torch for small ring gauge cigars like lancero's. Bigger ring gauges get a bigger torch.

I usually carry several lighters with me - yes I know that this is a little extreme :)

[Subvet642]

I usually carry several lighters with me - yes I know that this is a little extreme :)


I get it, I love accessories, too. What you need is a folding leather case that will carry them all in their own little slot.

[kalivoda87]

Heres a random question but can you really tell if a cigar is too dry/moist when you smoke it? How bout by sight and touch? I want to know to see if my humidor is working how it should.

[bobarian]

Rh too high if your smokes consistently have tight draws. Crispy wrappers would be an indication of too low humidity. What are you using for humidity control? In FL I would suspect you have a problem maintaining lower than 70% Rh. Are you using a calibrated hygrometer? I have my Rh between 62-65% and everything is fine. Its not guesswork, but a combination of good control(Heartfelt Humidity Beads) and a calibrated hygrometer. :2

[jjmitchem]

I have a question that has probably been asked before so forgive me. Being Active Duty we will move quite a bit and I want to know everyone's opinion of ling term use of a travel humidor? Since I am just getting into this I currently have a Cigar Caddy 5 count - don't want to buy a lot of one kind while I figure out my taste. Can I use multiple cigar caddy's for my storage? and how should I maintain them? I am thinking about getting a 10 or more count one next.

Thanks in advance
Jim

[pmwz]

get tupperware + beads/puck if you want to store the cigars for more than a couple of weeks.

[Kreth]

get tupperware + beads/puck if you want to store the cigars for more than a couple of weeks.
I've had some sticks in my Cigar Caddy for over a month now. I threw one of shilala's soft beadsticks in there.
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[NCRadioMan]

Can I use multiple cigar caddy's for my storage? and how should I maintain them? I am thinking about getting a 10 or more count one next.

Thanks in advance
Jim

Yes, you can. I keep cigars in mine for months without any humidification and they smoke fine. As long as they are properly humidified going in, they will not dry out. Do yourself a favor and get the 15 or 18 count model. You can take the foam trays out and get a lot more cigars in there. I can put almost 30 cigars in my 15 count without the foam trays.

[jjmitchem]

Next beginner question

How much difference does a torpedo make on the draw of the cigar? how far up can you cut it and get a looser draw?

Is it typical to prefer one over another - a Parejo or a Torpedo

[pnoon]

Next beginner question

How much difference does a torpedo make on the draw of the cigar? how far up can you cut it and get a looser draw?

Is it typical to prefer one over another - a Parejo or a Torpedo

There is nothing typical when it comes to preferences. Your preferences are just that - your preferences. Don't let anyone else's (no matter their experience) influene your preferences.

I typically cut a torpedo thin - and always at a slight angle. If the draw is not optimal, I can always snip off a little more.

:2

[jjmitchem]

There is nothing typical when it comes to preferences. Your preferences are just that - your preferences. Don't let anyone else's (no matter their experience) influene your preferences.
:2

what I meant is that do some prefer one or the other or are they different depending upon the roller?

If I find I do not prefer torpedos after a few does that mean I will not prefer all torpedos?

[icehog3]

what I meant is that do some prefer one or the other or are they different depending upon the roller?

If I find I do not prefer torpedos after a few does that mean I will not prefer all torpedos?

I am much more concerned with the flavor of a cigar than shape. There are torpedos I like and those I don't, based on taste. So my answer to your question would be "no".

[pnoon]

I am much more concerned with the flavor of a cigar than shape. There are torpedos I like and those I don't, based on taste. So my answer to your question would be "no".

:tpd:

[jjmitchem]

Sorry, need to clarify again:rolleyes:

I am talking only about the draw, nothing else

[pnoon]

Sorry, need to clarify again:rolleyes:

I am talking only about the draw, nothing else

IMO, no correlation. You'll find good/bad draws with torpedos and parejos alike.

Keep smoking.

[T.G]

I am much more concerned with the flavor of a cigar than shape. There are torpedos I like and those I don't, based on taste. So my answer to your question would be "no".

:tpd:

:tpd:

[icehog3]

IMO, no correlation. You'll find good/bad draws with torpedos and parejos alike.

Keep smoking.

:tpd:

[bobarian]

Wise words above. :tpd:

To elaborate a bit on cutting a torpedo, and this is by no means the definitive word, but I like to cut mine at about a 30degree angle about 3/8" up. Test the draw and if you want it a bit more free then cut another 1/4 inch. You can also recut after smoking a bit if it starts to get tight. The reason for cutting at an angle is that you get more surface space exposed. :2

[jjmitchem]

Wise words above. :tpd:

To elaborate a bit on cutting a torpedo, and this is by no means the definitive word, but I like to cut mine at about a 30degree angle about 3/8" up. Test the draw and if you want it a bit more free then cut another 1/4 inch. You can also recut after smoking a bit if it starts to get tight. The reason for cutting at an angle is that you get more surface space exposed. :2

Good instructions

Need to get myself a decent cutter for the torpedos I have. I have been using a punch and been happy with it so far

[pnoon]

Good instructions

Need to get myself a decent cutter for the torpedos I have. I have been using a punch and been happy with it so far

Look around for threads discussing the pros and cons to various cutters. Many here, like me, prefer a Palio but there are many others that folks prefer.

[newcigar]

hey, question from a noob,

what are the takes on a punch? good or bad?

[mravery]

hey, question from a noob,

what are the takes on a punch? good or bad?

Personally, I like to use a punch. I probably cut about 25% and punch 75%.

Cheers
Mark

[newcigar]

Personally, I like to use a punch. I probably cut about 25% and punch 75%.

Cheers
Mark

i was always curious about the punch, my lotus came with one, but i never knew how to use it, just stuck to the double guillotine

[mravery]

i was always curious about the punch, my lotus came with one, but i never knew how to use it, just stuck to the double guillotine

Also.. I should add.... I always put the 'un-punched' stick in my mouth for a min or so to soften the end before I punch it. Seems to make a bette , cleaner hole then trying to do it dry.

Cheers
Mark

[Langod]

I do the same, even with my usual guillotine cut. Definitely cuts down (pun!) on the ragged edges....

[newcigar]

definitely worth considering on the next stick, maybe i'll try that punch on a cheaper stick first, i guess. thank you all.

[chachee52]

I just bought my first humidor:banger and was wondering the best type of beads to get. There's the tubes which most people seem to be using, but on site that I've been shown has sheets. My humidor is just over 2200cu/in don't know if that matters, but what do you guys think is better the tubes or the sheets?
Another question, I'm going to need 2 of either, is it better to get two the same size or one big one small? Does it matter or just as long as it's the right coverage for the box?
Thanks guys!
Todd

[bobarian]

I just bought my first humidor:banger and was wondering the best type of beads to get. There's the tubes which most people seem to be using, but on site that I've been shown has sheets. My humidor is just over 2200cu/in don't know if that matters, but what do you guys think is better the tubes or the sheets?
Another question, I'm going to need 2 of either, is it better to get two the same size or one big one small? Does it matter or just as long as it's the right coverage for the box?
Thanks guys!
Todd

I recommend Heartfeltindustries.com. I use a 2oz tube of 65% in my desktop and a pound each in my Vinotemps. :2

[chachee52]

I recommend Heartfeltindustries.com. I use a 2oz tube of 65% in my desktop and a pound each in my Vinotemps. :2

that's the company that was refered to me, but my main question is they have two styles a tube of beads and sheet/case. Which on is better?

[MrOneEyedBoh]

I believe they are for different applications. They all do their job efficiently.

[icehog3]

that's the company that was refered to me, but my main question is they have two styles a tube of beads and sheet/case. Which on is better?

For your size humidor, I would use the tube. Better for convienence, as they both perform the same.

[KenyanSandBoa]

Wise words above. :tpd:

To elaborate a bit on cutting a torpedo, and this is by no means the definitive word, but I like to cut mine at about a 30degree angle about 3/8" up. Test the draw and if you want it a bit more free then cut another 1/4 inch. You can also recut after smoking a bit if it starts to get tight. The reason for cutting at an angle is that you get more surface space exposed. :2

I was never sure how to cut these...that definitely helps.

Now does exposing more surface area affect only the draw? I'm just curious if you could also get the same affect by cutting a little higher up and straight?...or are there other consequences to a straight cut on a torpedo?

[Doza]

Ok, quick question from a newbie.

I am buying my first humidor and have my eye on The Pompeii (http://www.cheaphumidors.com/HUM-100PR.html). I think I would like one with a glass top but have seen scattered comments about glass tops potentially causing problems. Could any experts please advise if this is generally true from experience?

Of course, would also love to hear the thoughts of any one that owns this particular humidor.

Thanks very much

[14holestogie]

Ok, quick question from a newbie.

I am buying my first humidor and have my eye on The Pompeii (http://www.cheaphumidors.com/HUM-100PR.html). I think I would like one with a glass top but have seen scattered comments about glass tops potentially causing problems. Could any experts please advise if this is generally true from experience?

Of course, would also love to hear the thoughts of any one that owns this particular humidor.

Thanks very much

I bought a used one of the same model from the Bay and have had no issues with it holding humidity. Glass tops just add another variable if the seal isn't good, but I've had no issues with my 2 glass-tops.

[icehog3]

Glass tops just add another variable if the seal isn't good,

Tim is right, many glass top humidors hold humidity just fine, but getting one without a glass top removes one more potential issue regarding a proper seal.

[Doza]

Tim is right, many glass top humidors hold humidity just fine, but getting one without a glass top removes one more potential issue regarding a proper seal.

Thanks Tim and Tom, much appreciated.

Have been doing a lot of reading, but just a few more questions before I make the all important first purchase, if people wouldn't mind obliging.

1. Seasoning - Do people recommend/had good experience with the Boveda seasoning packs? Or do people just go with the bowl of water trick?

2. Humidity - Was looking at going with the Puck as my first humidity controller.
a) Do people recommend the 65% or 70%. I know it can be personal taste. I've read a lot about 65% being better, and would like to go with 65% But will the 65% Puck actually normally deliver less than 65% (and 70% =<70%) due to leakage etc?
b) Have people had good experiences with the Puck? Or would more people recommend Boveda packs or Heartfelt beads for a long-term cost effective solution? I need to decide on one!


3. Am looking at maybe buying from cheaphumidors.com unless anyone knows of a better site and/or a discount code? :)

[icehog3]

1. I have always just seasoned with the beads and distilled water, and never had a problem. Remember, seasoning takes a little patience and may take a few days...your Rh might jump around until it is fully seasoned.

2. I prefer 65% or lower, my cigars seem to smoke better and taste better at lower humidity. If you jave a humidor with a good seal and learn how to use the beads properly, it should hold right around 65%. Be sure you have a properly calibrated digital hygrometer as well. I used Heartfelt beads before getting active humidification for a large cabinet, and was happy with the results.

3. I bought two humidors from cheaphumidors and had good experiences with both.

[skier171]

Another Noob Question Here,

I have a 30ish ct humi. and Just got a 100 ct (selling the 30 to a friend, works out well to help me down the slippery slope...), but I'm thinking of going with the bigger puck?

Would you guys suggest that puck or to go with some other form of beads?

Thanks in advance.

[14holestogie]

Beads are much less maintenance. A little pricier upfront, but you're buying peace of mind. shilala or heartfelt both have them.

[Mugen910]

I concur with Tim, I've had a few pucks that come with the humidors and I end up just replacing them with beads.

[bobarian]

Cigarmony has puck shaped bead holders. http://www.cigarmony.com/puck-ifierpuck-10065.aspx

So does Heartfelt. http://www.heartfeltindustries.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RH_Large_65

There is a volume calculator on the Heartfelt site that will tell you the amount of beads you need for your humidor.

[14holestogie]

Cigarmony has puck shaped bead holders. http://www.cigarmony.com/puck-ifierpuck-10065.aspx


Who says you can't have your cake and eat it too? :D
Good catch, Bob.

[skier171]

I had one of the puck shaped bead holder for my smaller humi, and I think im going to get the bigger size bead puck for the new humi. its made for a humi with around 10 more cubic inches than the one ive got coming.

That should be fine, right?

Thanks for the help guys, so many knowledgeable guys and so much info in here.

[68TriShield]

I had one of the puck shaped bead holder for my smaller humi, and I think im going to get the bigger size bead puck for the new humi. its made for a humi with around 10 more cubic inches than the one ive got coming.

That should be fine, right?

Thanks for the help guys, so many knowledgeable guys and so much info in here.

I would say yes although I would ditch the floral foam and retrofit it with humidity beads.

[jsnake]

Heartfelt beads are the way to go! I was bombed with a pound of beads from another company and they are not near the quality as the Heartfelt beads. They take forever to charge and don't seem to hold a good charge. They also kept exploding on me even though I was using a spray bottle to charge them slowly.

Heartfelt beads are so easy to use and hassle free. Definitely worth the peace of mind. I will never use regular pucks again.

[CigarNut]

I am taking over the production and sale of Shilala's beads from Scott. I don't have any pucks, but these beads are prepackaged in bags of various sizes that lay in your humindor and work very well at stabilizing and maintaining the RH.

The web site is not complete, but you can take a look at what is there so far, which also includes a calculator: Shilala's Beads (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/www.shilalasbeads.com) (www.shilalasbeads.com (http://www.shilalasbeads.com/)).

These beads have many very small, uniform pores so their ability to hold moisture is much greater than other beads. They also do not absorb particles from air (or water) so they stay clean. They will absorb free ammonia (given off by all cigars, but particularly NC's), but even the amount of ammonia is so small that it will not "taint" the beads.

The beads themselves are inert, so they contain no harmful chemicals or toxins. If cared for properly, they will last forever. Proper care: don't immerse in water (not a chemical reaction, just friction which causes extreme heat).

Do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions, comments, or concerns.

[jsnake]

I am taking over the production and sale of Shilala's beads from Scott. I don't have any pucks, but these beads are prepackaged in bags of various sizes that lay in your humindor and work very well at stabilizing and maintaining the RH.

The web site is not complete, but you can take a look at what is there so far, which also includes a calculator: Shilala's Beads (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/www.shilalasbeads.com) (www.shilalasbeads.com (http://www.shilalasbeads.com/)).

These beads have many very small, uniform pores so their ability to hold moisture is much greater than other beads. They also do not absorb particles from air (or water) so they stay clean. They will absorb free ammonia (given off by all cigars, but particularly NC's), but even the amount of ammonia is so small that it will not "taint" the beads.

The beads themselves are inert, so they contain no harmful chemicals or toxins. If cared for properly, they will last forever. Proper care: don't immerse in water (not a chemical reaction, just friction which causes extreme heat).

Do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions, comments, or concerns.

These sound interesting. Have you used Heartfelt beads before? If so, how would you compare the two? I would like to learn more about these.

[cort]

These sound interesting. Have you used Heartfelt beads before? If so, how would you compare the two? I would like to learn more about these.

I started my bead journey with Heartfelt and while thier beads work great they work no where near as well as the Shilala Beads do. Those things are magical. The best part is they are almost zero maintenance.

[skier171]

How often do you reload your heartfelt beads?

They have worked wonders in my smaller humi, and i just bought from cigarmony the bigger puck for the incoming humi.

[bobarian]

How often do you reload your heartfelt beads?

They have worked wonders in my smaller humi, and i just bought from cigarmony the bigger puck for the incoming humi.

Much depends on the ambient Rh and how often you open the humi. Since this is your only humidor, I would guess you will need to recharge every 3-4 weeks.
It shouldnt be much different from the puck you use now. Also, if you still have the old beads you can use both together as long as they are the same Rh. You can never have too many beads. :2

[skier171]

A few months later along the path, and I have more questions...

If there are different Rh, (puck 50 = 65, puck 100 = 70) what would happen?

Also, i've noticed the wrapper being quite fragile (sometimes ripping when taking cello off) in my bigger humi where the temp has been right around 68 and rh is usually reading 67-69. Any ideas whats wrong in there? (and this is a case by case deal, most are perceftly fine, but on occasion i get one where the wrapper cracks shortly after lighting...)

[Neuromancer]

A few months later along the path, and I have more questions...

If there are different Rh, (puck 50 = 65, puck 100 = 70) what would happen?

Also, i've noticed the wrapper being quite fragile (sometimes ripping when taking cello off) in my bigger humi where the temp has been right around 68 and rh is usually reading 67-69. Any ideas whats wrong in there? (and this is a case by case deal, most are perceftly fine, but on occasion i get one where the wrapper cracks shortly after lighting...)

Sounds like they're too dry...you may want to change your humidifying system and get some gel jars or beads, make sure your humidor seals well, and get a good hygrometer...

[Morgue]

Was smoking a cigar and brown ink fluid kept coming out the head of a cigar. At first it was just a little brown (guess it was like a tobacco stain) on my fingers then I started to notice almost a drop. I thought it was saliva but then made sure to not salivate over the end and it kept getting worse.

Someone else who smoked some from that bundle said they got a little of the same thing. One of my cigar buddies thought it was just oils coming out, I have never seen that much come out.

Any ideas? Humidor was at 65 to 70, and I was thinking maybe for whatever reason the stick was too wet...curious to know more.

[bobarian]

The brown liquid is tar, foul tasting. Sometimes you can recut and it will stop. Also smoking slower will keep the tar from flowing. But there are times you just have to pitch the stick. It happens randomly and can appear with any cigar, from cheap to super premium. :2

[theonlybear4CORT]

So lately I have been in a smoking slump,I don't really have the desire to smoke unless it's at a herf. have any of the old gorillas been down this road? also whats the cure?








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[leasingthisspace]

I am not a FOG but I have been down this road. If you don't feel like smoking then don't. I just went like 2 months without one.
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[bobarian]

So lately I have been in a smoking slump,I don't really have the desire to smoke unless it's at a herf. have any of the old gorillas been down this road? also whats the cure?



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Nothing wrong with taking a break, Mike. You have a lot on your mind right now. Sometimes its good to take a break to refresh you palate. :2

[theonlybear4CORT]

I am not a FOG but I have been down this road. If you don't feel like smoking then don't. I just went like 2 months without one.
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Nothing wrong with taking a break, Mike. You have a lot on your mind right now. Sometimes its good to take a break to refresh you palate. :2

thank you both I think I'll wait for a bit and smoke a few on the big day,hope to see you there Bob.

[Morgue]

The brown liquid is tar, foul tasting. Sometimes you can recut and it will stop. Also smoking slower will keep the tar from flowing. But there are times you just have to pitch the stick. It happens randomly and can appear with any cigar, from cheap to super premium. :2

Good to know!

I did have to just put it down, but it was a cheaper stick so I wasn't too concerned.

Was kinda worried I was doing something wrong to cause it.

[N2Advnture]

Was smoking a cigar and brown ink fluid kept coming out the head of a cigar. At first it was just a little brown (guess it was like a tobacco stain) on my fingers then I started to notice almost a drop. I thought it was saliva but then made sure to not salivate over the end and it kept getting worse.

Someone else who smoked some from that bundle said they got a little of the same thing. One of my cigar buddies thought it was just oils coming out, I have never seen that much come out.

Any ideas? Humidor was at 65 to 70, and I was thinking maybe for whatever reason the stick was too wet...curious to know more.


What specific cigar was it?

I have another thought but want to find out first.

~Mark

[Morgue]

What specific cigar was it?

I have another thought but want to find out first.

~Mark

an 1876 Churchill

[jonumberone]

I have seen some pics on this site of labeled cigars. I did a search and found what people use to label them (napkin rings, p-touch, blank labels,..etc) but not why. I have always been the buy, cut, smoke, repeat type, turning my small humidor over every 4-6 weeks. I have just graduated to a cabinet and plan on keeping more cigars for longer. So i'm wondering why people label their cigars, What info they place on the label, and is this something everyone storing cigars should do? Or is it only practiced by anal retentive types?

[Eleven]

I label cigars that were given to me, that way I know when I got it and who gave it to me.

[chippewastud79]

I have seen some pics on this site of labeled cigars. I did a search and found what people use to label them (napkin rings, p-touch, blank labels,..etc) but not why. I have always been the buy, cut, smoke, repeat type, turning my small humidor over every 4-6 weeks. I have just graduated to a cabinet and plan on keeping more cigars for longer. So i'm wondering why people label their cigars, What info they place on the label, and is this something everyone storing cigars should do? Or is it only practiced by anal retentive types?

Personally I don't label everything, just cigars I want to remember what they are or when they were made. Like dates or box codes from cuban cigars or unlabeled non-cuban cigars like AVO LE07. Some people will label cigars that they are gifted or bombed by other members to remind them of who gave it to them when they smoke it down the road. I find it curteous to label cigars that I send to other people if there might be a question of what it is. Sometimes I just write in on the 5 finger bag or will add a white label to it. :2

Its really your decision in the end, but when you delve further into the world of cigars and store them for long periods of time it will be much easier to look at a label than trying to remember what the cigar is and who you recieved it from. :tu

[jonumberone]

Thanks for the info.:)

[quantim0]

I put the date I got the stick for singles on my labels. That let's me keep track of how long I have had it. It's tough to keep track any other way for me. I like to keep my sticks sitting for at least 1 month before I'll smoke them to let them acclimate to my preferred conditions. It doesn't always work out that way though.

If a box doesn't have a date code, I will throw a label in there also. I am at the point now of acquiring boxes, so I'm going to try and let my boxes sit for a year and live off singles until then. So the date on the label let's me know how long I have had them.

[MortonMilo]

I'm having a humidification problem and I can't seem to fix it!

I currently have an Edgestar 28, fit with 4 Chasidor drawers and 2 shelves. I have 3 pounds of Heartfelt beads spread throughout, and three 4 ounce bags of Shilala's beads put in the drawers. All beads are set to 65%.

The temp on my unit runs at 60 degrees, never wavering. The humidity is where the issue is. The humidity holds steady at 58%. I have the drain plugged, so there is a constant pool of water forming at the bottom of the unit (I think I'm gonna rig up somthing so it drains into a bowl inside the unit).

Am I doing something wrong? What can I do to help the unit keep my humidity?

[lightning9191]

I'm having a humidification problem and I can't seem to fix it!

I currently have an Edgestar 28, fit with 4 Chasidor drawers and 2 shelves. I have 3 pounds of Heartfelt beads spread throughout, and three 4 ounce bags of Shilala's beads put in the drawers. All beads are set to 65%.

The temp on my unit runs at 60 degrees, never wavering. The humidity is where the issue is. The humidity holds steady at 58%. I have the drain plugged, so there is a constant pool of water forming at the bottom of the unit (I think I'm gonna rig up somthing so it drains into a bowl inside the unit).

Am I doing something wrong? What can I do to help the unit keep my humidity?

Are your hygrometers calibrated? 60 is a little on the cool side, which may be causing your unit to run a lot.....try turning the temp up to 65 and see if that helps.

[MortonMilo]

My hygros are calibrated with the salt test. Did it when I initially got them and then again last week because I was so frustrated with the humidity issue!

I'll try raising the temp to see if it helps at all. Anyone have any suggestions for the water collection issue at the bottom of my unit?

[lightning9191]

My hygros are calibrated with the salt test. Did it when I initially got them and then again last week because I was so frustrated with the humidity issue!

I'll try raising the temp to see if it helps at all. Anyone have any suggestions for the water collection issue at the bottom of my unit?

Turning up the temp will probably result in less water in the bottom. Some people put a container of beads at the bottom and direct the water into it. I think there may be some photos around here showing that.

[Big_Ern]

I just found mold on some cigars. what should I do next?

[chippewastud79]

I just found mold on some cigars. what should I do next?

How bad is it? Pictures? How humid is your humidor? How many cigars is it affecting? :confused:

Simple answer is to wipe it off. If it is on the foot or all of your cigars are effected, it might be more complicated. :2

[Ogre]

What color is it. A light gray color is a normal part of aging. If it is black or green it is mold. I picked up a Ashton VSG at my local B&M and got a lesson on how to ID this. If you are not sure, take one to you local and see what they say.

[Big_Ern]

a couple of pictures. do I throw them out? let them air dry?

[NCRadioMan]

a couple of pictures. do I throw them out? let them air dry?

That doesn't look good. Cut off a 1/4 inch off the foot of the cigar and see if mold is still there. If so, cut another 1/4 inch and check. If still there, I would toss them. If not, wipe down the rest of the cigar and keep them in a proper environment. Anything under 70%.

:2

[NCRadioMan]

What color is it. A light gray color is a normal part of aging. If it is black or green it is mold. I picked up a Ashton VSG at my local B&M and got a lesson on how to ID this. If you are not sure, take one to you local and see what they say.

Never heard that before. I've got a number of 20+ year old cigars and none are a light gray color. Frankly, most b&m's don't know the difference between mold and plume. Plume takes a long time to appear (years) and if you bought a recently produced VSG, it will not have plume but mold. Mold can be gray. I opened 4 boxes of VSG's yesterday as a matter of fact and all of them were sopping wet and was starting to develop mold.

[Ogre]

I was told that lite gray spots may appear on a cigar as it ages. It wipes right off. When I first saw it I thought it was mold. Thanks for pointing that out to me. I am still learning myself.

[NCRadioMan]

I was told that lite gray spots may appear on a cigar as it ages. It wipes right off. When I first saw it I thought it was mold.

Your instinct is correct. That is mold. Plume may appear on a well aged cigar but appears as a light, uniform, dusting on the entire cigar. Not spotty. Spotty=mold.

[Big_Ern]

thanks for the replies but it turns out that it was mold and I had to chuck 6 of the 8 so thats not so bad. I have my stash of good ones in a little acrylic humi that are fine.

[saru22]

Hi Guys - I'm new to Cigars and to the site and had a question about my humi set-up.

The humi is about a 150ct and I was going to get 8oz of Shilala's beads for the humi. My Question is.. is it better to get one 8oz bag of beads and keep it at the bottom or top of the humidor OR is it better to get two 4oz bags and keep one at the bottom level and one on the top level. Is there a better combination? Does it even matter?

Thanks in advance for the help.

[pnoon]

Hi Guys - I'm new to Cigars and to the site and had a question about my humi set-up.

The humi is about a 150ct and I was going to get 8oz of Shilala's beads for the humi. My Question is.. is it better to get one 8oz bag of beads and keep it at the bottom or top of the humidor OR is it better to get two 4oz bags and keep one at the bottom level and one on the top level. Is there a better combination? Does it even matter?

Thanks in advance for the help.
For a humi that size it won't really matter. :2

[CigarNut]

For a humi that size it won't really matter. :2What he said!

[Samsquanch]

For a humi that size it won't really matter.

So size doesn't matter, mystery solved!!

[icehog3]

So size doesn't matter, mystery solved!!

That's guys saying that...more important what women say. ;)

[Samsquanch]

That's guys saying that...more important what women say.

Er, GREAT point!!!

[chachee52]

Hi Guys - I'm new to Cigars and to the site and had a question about my humi set-up.

The humi is about a 150ct and I was going to get 8oz of Shilala's beads for the humi. My Question is.. is it better to get one 8oz bag of beads and keep it at the bottom or top of the humidor OR is it better to get two 4oz bags and keep one at the bottom level and one on the top level. Is there a better combination? Does it even matter?

Thanks in advance for the help.

So follow up question: What size of a humidor does it matter? I have a 250 ct. I have the beads at the bottom and the hydrometer at the top and it seems to be consistent, so I guess it's not a question for me right now, but down the road.

[chippewastud79]

So follow up question: What size of a humidor does it matter? I have a 250 ct. I have the beads at the bottom and the hydrometer at the top and it seems to be consistent, so I guess it's not a question for me right now, but down the road.

The larger the humidor, the more spread out your humidification will need to be. In my 300 counts I always just had the humidifiers at the bottom. The humidity will rise but until you are at the large cooler stage or a cabinet, there really isn't too much need to spread out the beads all over the humidor. Kind of like the argument of when is active humidification needed. :2

[saru22]

Thanks for all the insights guys. I appreciate it. I'm thinking i'm going to outgrow my 150ct REALLY quickly.

[MortonMilo]

I'm having a humidification problem and I can't seem to fix it!

I currently have an Edgestar 28, fit with 4 Chasidor drawers and 2 shelves. I have 3 pounds of Heartfelt beads spread throughout, and three 4 ounce bags of Shilala's beads put in the drawers. All beads are set to 65%.

The temp on my unit runs at 60 degrees, never wavering. The humidity is where the issue is. The humidity holds steady at 58%. I have the drain plugged, so there is a constant pool of water forming at the bottom of the unit (I think I'm gonna rig up somthing so it drains into a bowl inside the unit).

Am I doing something wrong? What can I do to help the unit keep my humidity?

As a followup to my above question, I still cant seem to get the humidity right! I still have my drain plugged, and have the condensation that is collecting draining into a bowl of heartfelt beads at the bottom. Beyond that I have 2 lbs of heartfelt beads and a pound of shilala beads spread throughout. Still trying to find a way to fix another condensation issue....condensation now collects on the bottom of the dish I use to collect it from the drain! Will keep working to solve that one...

Any suggestions on how I can fix the humidity issue?! Despite all my efforts, its still holding steady at 58%!

[bobarian]

How are your cigars smoking? That is more important than a number. It will be difficult to get the Rh higher without raising the temperature. Put a hygrometer inside a box and take a reading. I dont know if the Edgestar uses a compressor or a peltier cooler, if its a compressor you will need an external temp controller to raise the temp to 65. :2:2

[lightning9191]

As a followup to my above question, I still cant seem to get the humidity right! I still have my drain plugged, and have the condensation that is collecting draining into a bowl of heartfelt beads at the bottom. Beyond that I have 2 lbs of heartfelt beads and a pound of shilala beads spread throughout. Still trying to find a way to fix another condensation issue....condensation now collects on the bottom of the dish I use to collect it from the drain! Will keep working to solve that one...

Any suggestions on how I can fix the humidity issue?! Despite all my efforts, its still holding steady at 58%!

What is the temp of the room that your wine cooler is in? If it is too hot, then your wine cooler will run often keeping the humidity low. Did you try turning the temp of the wine cooler up to see if that helps?

[saru22]

Hey guys another quick question. Is there any way to tell if a wood is spanish cedar or not? Do you just have to take a manufacturers word for it? Thanks again.

[T.G]

Hey guys another quick question. Is there any way to tell if a wood is spanish cedar or not? Do you just have to take a manufacturers word for it? Thanks again.

Examine it closely & observe the grain.

This is Spanish Cedar:
http://www.wood-database.com/wp-content/uploads/spanish-cedar.jpg
More info: http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/spanish-cedar/

This is Western Red Cedar (best avoided):
http://www.wood-database.com/wp-content/uploads/western-red-cedar.jpg
More info: http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/softwoods/western-red-cedar/

This is Aromatic Red Cedar (You really don't want this - this what they line closets with):
http://www.wood-database.com/wp-content/uploads/aromatic-red-cedar.jpg
More info: http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/softwoods/aromatic-red-cedar/


Another wood sometimes seen in humidor lining use is Mahogany, which is great for humidor use (possibly even superior to SC), it just doesn't have an aroma and it costs a lot more than SC, hence why it's not as common. Why Mahogany you ask? Well, Spanish Cedar is not actually a softwood cedar, but rather it's in same family of trees as Mahogany hardwood, but it has a cedar like aroma, hence how it got it's name.

You can look up what mahogany grain looks like here: http://www.wood-database.com/wood-identification/
(should be immediately evident that it's almost the same as SC grain)



Oh, and when in doubt...

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o62/brdhouse/funny/identify-wood-746327.jpg

[Big_Ern]

great answer. I have wondered that a lot myself. thanks for the cut and clear answer.

[saru22]

Seriously that was a great answer. Thank You. I'm curious to go home and compare my humi to those pics now..

[markem]

also, spanish cedar is actually a kind of mahogany and not even in the same family as cedar.


Scottie knows!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedrela

[T.G]

also, spanish cedar is actually a kind of mahogany and not even in the same family as cedar.

that is why some older humidors are actually lined with mahogany.

scottie

Scottie knows!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedrela


Knows, yet didn't read two posts up! ;)



Another wood sometimes seen in humidor lining use is Mahogany, which is great for humidor use (possibly even superior to SC), it just doesn't have an aroma and it costs a lot more than SC, hence why it's not as common. Why Mahogany you ask? Well, Spanish Cedar is not actually a softwood cedar, but rather it's in same family of trees as Mahogany hardwood, but it has a cedar like aroma, hence how it got it's name.

[T.G]

sorry for the re-iteration, and nice comment

No need to apologize bro. To be honest, it doesn't bother me in the slightest, I was just taking the opportunity to flip you some chit over it, hence the " ;) ".

[saru22]

Hey Guys, Was wondering... If you have a cigar that has bloomed, are you supposed to wipe it off before smoking? Or is it desirable to smoke with the bloom on.. never had or seen one with bloom, but was just discussing with a buddy and we didnt know the answer... THANKS.

BTW got my first Nic-sickness the other day. First thing I did was search this site. man that saved my life.. or at least saved my dinner. =P

[NCRadioMan]

Hey Guys, Was wondering... If you have a cigar that has bloomed, are you supposed to wipe it off before smoking? Or is it desirable to smoke with the bloom on.. never had or seen one with bloom, but was just discussing with a buddy and we didnt know the answer... THANKS.

BTW got my first Nic-sickness the other day. First thing I did was search this site. man that saved my life.. or at least saved my dinner. =P

You can but you don't have to wipe plume/bloom off to smoke them. It neither adds nor takes away from the cigars flavor. It's just a sign of good storage, that's it.

In my experience, plume is not as common as most think as they misjudge mold for it.

:2

[longknocker]

Hey Guys, Was wondering... If you have a cigar that has bloomed, are you supposed to wipe it off before smoking? Or is it desirable to smoke with the bloom on.. never had or seen one with bloom, but was just discussing with a buddy and we didnt know the answer... THANKS.

BTW got my first Nic-sickness the other day. First thing I did was search this site. man that saved my life.. or at least saved my dinner. =P

If It's "Truly Bloom", I leave it on. I've only had one stick like that in 3 years, though. Make Sure It's Bloom or "Plume" as I prefer to call it.:):tu

[saru22]

Great thanks guys.. I've never had a bloom/plume but was just curious...

[Bill86]

A few questions now that I have my humidor....

1. What do you fill the humidifiers with?
2. Does it matter how much distilled water sits in while you season your humidor? The site says a "large bowl" my instructions it came with says a shot glass.....what's the deal there is quite the different in the amounts of water you are supposed to place here.

[Chingas]

A few questions now that I have my humidor....

1. What do you fill the humidifiers with? Distilled Water


2. Does it matter how much distilled water sits in while you season your humidor? Just enough to not have to keep filling it back up. A bowl is fine or a few shot glasses or small bowls thruout.


Hope that helps you out.

[Bill86]

Oh ok just distilled water then nice. Got it so there is never too much just don't hassle yourself filling it up everyday. Thanks for answering the questions, love the help I'm getting from this place :D

Ok so I have a crappy analog and a NICE $40 digital. They both read DEAD on 51, so I figure there's no need for calibration. Also inside my digital's box that it came in it said it's "of very high quality and their is no calibration required". So it's good to know they both work 100%

Let's just see how long it takes to bump that humidity up 17-18 points.

Also do the humidifiers need to be in there while seasoning or after? Probably with right? That's where the humidity comes in correct?

[Chingas]

Also do the humidifiers need to be in there while seasoning or after? Probably with right? That's where the humidity comes in correct?

You can throw the analog one in the garbage. It'll fail soon enough.

Yes you keep the humidifiers in before, during and after the seasoning.

[Bill86]

You can throw the analog one in the garbage. It'll fail soon enough.

Yes you keep the humidifiers in before, during and after the seasoning.

Got ya, thanks...yeah that analog one came shipped with a cracked glass I should probably thank them for cracking it forcing me to purchase a nice digital one.

[longknocker]

Got ya, thanks...yeah that analog one came shipped with a cracked glass I should probably thank them for cracking it forcing me to purchase a nice digital one.

BILL: I STILL RECOMMEND CALIBRATING YOUR NEW HUMI WITH A BOVEDA CALIBRATION PACK. LMK If You Need One; I Have A Few Extra.:tu

[CigarNut]

BILL: I STILL RECOMMEND CALIBRATING YOUR NEW HUMI WITH A BOVEDA CALIBRATION PACK...:tuCould not agree more!

Just because both hygrometers read the same does not mean that they are in any way correct.

[Bill86]

BILL: I STILL RECOMMEND CALIBRATING YOUR NEW HUMI WITH A BOVEDA CALIBRATION PACK. LMK If You Need One; I Have A Few Extra.:tu

Not even sure what that is O_O, I just figure....2 reading the exact same thing would lead me to believe they are correct or at least VERY correctISH.

So I left a glass of distilled water and filled the humidifiers, the hygrometer started at 51, they are now 69 after like 10 hours. Is my humidor really ready to put cigars in? Or should I take the glass of water out and see if it's still holding the same humidity.

EDIT wow your sticky says 7-14 days of this O_O.

EDIT also those humidifiers yeah that sticky stuff they put on the back....worthless mine fall all the time randomly. I pushed them on good and all but ...nothing they fall every couple hours

[NCRadioMan]

Not even sure what that is O_O, I just figure....2 reading the exact same thing would lead me to believe they are correct or at least VERY correctISH.

So I left a glass of distilled water and filled the humidifiers, the hygrometer started at 51, they are now 69 after like 10 hours. Is my humidor really ready to put cigars in? Or should I take the glass of water out and see if it's still holding the same humidity.

EDIT wow your sticky says 7-14 days of this O_O.

EDIT also those humidifiers yeah that sticky stuff they put on the back....worthless mine fall all the time randomly. I pushed them on good and all but ...nothing they fall every couple hours

Don't guess that your digital hygro is correct. Salt-test it to make sure, you don't need the Boveda junk.

Keep your humidor closed with the glass of dist. h2o for at least 2-3 days, then you should be able to load it up.

:2

[dschmidt20]

I was and I guess still am a newbie to CA. I joined up in 2009 and haven't been around too much since I left Davidoff in 2009. The reason being was that I never really had a chance to connect with anyone in here besides JPH, who I met in NY when he was at graduate school.

Question I have for seasoned veterans is how did you start building up a humidor collection if you happened to be on a fixed budget/income?

I was able to build up a tremendous stash and having gone through a period of unemployment for 14 months without collecting unemployment I ended up burning through all of them. Now I'm back to work and building my collection of CCs, but I also like to smoke them from time to time.

This post is not intended to mooch for sources, but more importantly so I can get a better feel for how you went about building your collection so you could pass along some good smokes to other BOTL.

Best,

Dusty

[Bill86]

Don't guess that your digital hygro is correct. Salt-test it to make sure, you don't need the Boveda junk.

Keep your humidor closed with the glass of dist. h2o for at least 2-3 days, then you should be able to load it up.

:2

Sounds good, 3 days it is. I mean the instructions said until it reaches humidity so adding on a few days sounds good enough.

[NCRadioMan]

Question I have for seasoned veterans is how did you start building up a humidor collection if you happened to be on a fixed budget/income?



As with any budget, buy more than you smoke. On a smaller budget, sacrifice is in order. Smoke less but keep buying on a consistent basis. Just takes time.
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[Wharf Rat]

Don't guess that your digital hygro is correct. Salt-test it to make sure, you don't need the Boveda junk.

:2

I have mixed feelings about this advice. Boveda isn't junk. But, its unnecessary for folks who are willing and able to make their own salt slurry. Thing is, many folks find it difficult to do so. Don't know why. But, if its giving you trouble, use Boveda and save yourself the frustration.

[NCRadioMan]

Boveda isn't junk.

In your opinion. IMO, Boveda is total junk because it's a waste of money not because they don't work. Spend $5 on a Boveda pack or less than a penny making a salt solution that does the same thing? Doesn't take Einstein to figure the math on that one but evidently, for some, it takes a doctorate degree to make the most simple of solutions. :r

It's always better teaching to fish rather than just supplying the fish.

They should be called Boveda Lazy-A$$ Kits. :r

[Bill86]

I see many cigars with and without PLASTIC wrappers, should those be kept on or taken off when the cigars are inside your humidor?

[Chingas]

I see many cigars with and without PLASTIC wrappers, should those be kept on or taken off when the cigars are inside your humidor?

I think te census says it's a matter of personal preference.

[markem]

I see many cigars with and without PLASTIC wrappers, should those be kept on or taken off when the cigars are inside your humidor?

The decision to remove (or not) a cellophane wrapper is an individual one. Try it both ways and decide what works best for you.

[timj219]

I need to buy a cutter. Can any of them be disassembled to sharpen the blades? I've never seen this option mentioned in anything I've read about them.