Beginner Questions (Ask Them Here!)

[N2Advnture]

I need to buy a cutter. Can any of them be disassembled to sharpen the blades? I've never seen this option mentioned in anything I've read about them.

If you pick up the Palio (or Xikar) it comes with a lifetime warranty, so if you are ever not satisfied with their performance, you can exchange them.

I hope this helps

~Mark

[timj219]

If you pick up the Palio (or Xikar) it comes with a lifetime warranty, so if you are ever not satisfied with their performance, you can exchange them.

I hope this helps

~MarkYes it does. That's a better deal than trying to sharpen those curved blades.

[Sam Tushing]

Hope this fits as a newbie question:

I have a quick question on cigar shopping - has anyone bought there cigars from Thompson Cigar? (http://www.thompsoncigar.com) If so what was the experience like? I've seen some good deals I'm interested in taking advantage of...

Any other suggestions on good places to buy online would be appreciated!

[icehog3]

Hope this fits as a newbie question:

I have a quick question on cigar shopping - has anyone bought there cigars from Thompson Cigar? (http://www.thompsoncigar.com) If so what was the experience like? I've seen some good deals I'm interested in taking advantage of...

Any other suggestions on good places to buy online would be appreciated!

Incessant calls for months (maybe years) will be your reward.

Some of the places I would offer as alternatives:

CigarsInternational
Holts
JRs

I am sure the others will follow with many which are better alternatives as well. I suggest skipping Thompson's if for nothing than their insane sales reps.

[Chingas]

Incessant calls for months (maybe years) will be your reward.

Some of the places I would offer as alternatives:

CigarsInternational
Holts
JRs

I am sure the others will follow with many which are better alternatives as well. I suggest skipping Thompson's if for nothing than their insane sales reps.

:tpd:

[14holestogie]

Incessant calls for months (maybe years) will be your reward.

Some of the places I would offer as alternatives:

CigarsInternational
Holts
JRs

I am sure the others will follow with many which are better alternatives as well. I suggest skipping Thompson's if for nothing than their insane sales reps.


I concur. I stopped shopping there years ago until the last few months, as the little woman has taken to smoking some cigarillos only they carry. It wasn't two weeks before the phone calls started again. I straightened them out after the first few calls. No, i don't want any of your other "premiums." :td

[DPD6030]

I haven't shopped at Thompson's for years and I still get catalogs. :td

[XTRazzer]

I've never bought from Thompson's but got their catalogs anyhow. Had to send a 'stop' request online.

For online cigar shops I would add Famous Smoke, Atlantic Cigar, and Slippery Rock Cigars.

[CigarNut]

There are several retailers that are members of CA -- you can check out their specials and announcements in the retailers section.

[Kreth]

I've never bought from Thompson's but got their catalogs anyhow. Had to send a 'stop' request online.
:tpd: No idea how they got my addy. I just chuck them in the recycling...
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[Chingas]

:tpd: No idea how they got my addy. I just chuck them in the recycling...
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Recycling? Them puppies find their way into the Fire!:banger

[Kreth]

Recycling? Them puppies find their way into the Fire!:banger
We live in an apartment in a small city. The neighbors frown on bonfires (and virgin sacrifices). Who knew?
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[TXRebel]

Any other suggestions on good places to buy online would be appreciated!

LINK to online retailers (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=572075&postcount=40).

[Chingas]

That is one hell of a list!

[pnoon]

That is one hell of a list!

Read more. Post less. ;)

[Sam Tushing]

Thanks TXRebel!

[TXRebel]

Anytime, brother. :D

[Eagle53]

Has there been any discussion about storing your butane lighters in your humi with your cigars?

My concern is lighters (cheap or expensive they all do it) leaking butane into the humi and damaging the flavor of the cigars. Are there any thoughts, experiences or research on this subject?

[bobarian]

Has there been any discussion about storing your butane lighters in your humi with your cigars?

My concern is lighters (cheap or expensive they all do it) leaking butane into the humi and damaging the flavor of the cigars. Are there any thoughts, experiences or research on this subject?

I'm not sure this is true, I have left lighters for 8-12 months and picked them up and not had any fuel leakage.:confused: Over the years I have never had a problem with a lighter leaking. But I do not store lighters in my humidors, there is no room. But I often put one in my traveldors. :2

[longknocker]

I'm not sure this is true, I have left lighters for 8-12 months and picked them up and not had any fuel leakage.:confused: Over the years I have never had a problem with a lighter leaking. But I do not store lighters in my humidors, there is no room. But I often put one in my traveldors. :2

Bob Is Wise!:tu

[daviddwilson]

What do you do when your humi gets that "not so fresh feeling"?
:D.


Thanks for posting this, this is a great place to ask the beginner questions this site has so much knowledge it is kind of scary!:bs


Jason

I thought it might be a good place consolidate commonly asked questions instead of finding old threads

[Sam Tushing]

Thanks for the info - I've heard some bad stories about Thompson. Sounds like if you guys got their catalogs without buying their someone sold them your address...happens. I'll keep poking and see if I can avoid the temptation to save a buck or two every once in awhile.

[gentimmy]

I see people keep their cellophane on their sticks when they put them in their humi. Advantages to this?

[14holestogie]

I see people keep their cellophane on their sticks when they put them in their humi. Advantages to this?

Personal preference. Whatever you choose is fine.
Cellophane is nice if you need to touch them everyday or for travel protection.

[bobarian]

I see people keep their cellophane on their sticks when they put them in their humi. Advantages to this?

Keeping the cello on can prevent your cigars from rubbing together as you move them around. But whether to keep it on or not is mainly a personal choice. Some cigars do not come with cello so I usually leave them as they are packaged from the manufacturer. :2

Please take a moment to introduce yourself here: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=7

Also, there is a wealth of information in the stickies at the top of each forum section. :tu

[gentimmy]

Keeping the cello on can prevent your cigars from rubbing together as you move them around. But whether to keep it on or not is mainly a personal choice. Some cigars do not come with cello so I usually leave them as they are packaged from the manufacturer. :2

Please take a moment to introduce yourself here: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=7

Also, there is a wealth of information in the stickies at the top of each forum section. :tu

Thanks for the help ya'll.

already introduced myself:)

[mariogolbee]

I see people keep their cellophane on their sticks when they put them in their humi. Advantages to this?

Aside from the other answers I have read in a few places that cigars age at a slower rate or something of the sort. Don't quote me on this though and no Nickerson comments please.

[T.G]

Aside from the other answers I have read in a few places that cigars age at a slower rate or something of the sort. Don't quote me on this though and no Nickerson comments please.

That "information" is out there, but it's really more of a theory from some people based on their personal perceptions and alleged experiences than it is a proven fact there Nicker...errr, Mario. :D

It's also one of those things that gets repeated over and over on websites because people often just copy info from other places that have it without really changing or even thinking about anything (much like the oft repeated flavor marrying myth)

[Zeuceone]

Is there some kind of holder for a cigar when getting down to the last 2-3 inches?

[TXRebel]

Is there some kind of holder for a cigar when getting down to the last 2-3 inches?

Tooth pick, corn cob holder, foreceps, sheetrock screw, etc.

[688sonarmen]

corn holders work well.

[Zeuceone]

Thanks guys, those are good examples.

[Kreth]

corn holders work well.
As do BBQ skewers and chopsticks... :ss
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[TXRebel]

Is there some kind of holder for a cigar when getting down to the last 2-3 inches?

You can straighten a paper clip.

[icehog3]

You can straighten a paper clip.

But you can't make it drink.

[CigarNut]

I bought a "Stogie Nubber" at Corona in Orlando and it works great. I will post a pic when I get home.

[T.G]

Is there some kind of holder for a cigar when getting down to the last 2-3 inches?

A RAMclip!

Accept no substitutes!

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=511&pictureid=3769

[Zeuceone]

I bought a "Stogie Nubber" at Corona in Orlando and it works great. I will post a pic when I get home.

Ask a couple B&M's amd they never heard of anything.

A RAMclip!

Accept no substitutes!

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=511&pictureid=3769

One of the "smoke" shops suggested a "roach" clip. Looks similar to this.

Where can I pick one of up?

[T.G]

One of the "smoke" shops suggested a "roach" clip. Looks similar to this.

Where can I pick one of up?

Office supply stores, trade shows, promotional items suppliers. The RAMclip is actually a memo clip holder (http://www.google.com/images?q=memo+clip+holder&hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&rls=en&tbs=isch:1&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&ei=yfgTTdDhN4qssAOjpbTuCg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&ved=0CEkQ_AU) sent out by a brother on another forum whose login is Ram27 (hence the nickname)

If you want just the clip, you can get the bare alligator clips at any electronics store, even a sucky pseudo-electronics store like Battery Hut (Radio Shack). There are some that have an insulated grip for use a meter probe, HERE (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062235) that would give you something to hold on to.

You could contact Troy, AKA: Boom, and see if he makes a nubbing spike of some sort, or if he can make you a custom grip for fitting an alligator clip to.

[Zeuceone]

I was thinking of something like that but wouldn't it wrapper?

[T.G]

I was thinking of something like that but wouldn't it wrapper?

Wrapper like what? Sing "Ice, Ice Baby..."? Gawd, I hope not.

Yes, the spike will put a hole in the wrapper and the alligator clip might damage the wrapper a bit, but really, we're talking about the last 1" of a cigar - it's not going to make a difference. The cigar will fall apart from the inside out, at that point, a little bit of wrapper damage won't mean anything. You're going to set the clip/spike once and that's it, you're not going to be moving them around much.

[Zeuceone]

Jokes?

I ment more in the line of tearing off a piece but I guess they are not so delicate.

[Zeuceone]

Jokes?

I ment more in the line of tearing off a piece but I guess they are not so delicate.

[T.G]

Some wrappers are more delicate than others. Most will probably hold up to a slight pinching, a few might not (Connecticut shade comes to mind) and they'll crack.

[Zeuceone]

Thanks for the info.

[jet66]

The Stogie Nubber. (http://stogienubber.com/home.html) Looks like they run in the ~$10-$15 range.

[CigarNut]

I bought a "Stogie Nubber" at Corona in Orlando and it works great. I will post a pic when I get home.Here you go:

http://www.stogienubber.com/images/Nubber%20w%20cap.jpg

http://www.stogienubber.com

[staminator]

I bought a "Stogie Nubber" at Corona in Orlando and it works great. I will post a pic when I get home.

I have never smoked the last inch or so. Is there a reason I would want to? :confused: Clearly some people think so or these products would not be made.

[T.G]

I have never smoked the last inch or so. Is there a reason I would want to? :confused: Clearly some people think so or these products would not be made.

A long time ago, I read some advice on when to stop smoking any particular cigar you happen to be enjoying at the time. It went something like this:

"There is no set point at which you put down a cigar for last time. You stop smoking the cigar when you stop enjoying it, as to not ruin the pleasant memory of the part you have already enjoyed. Be it at the halfway point, the band, an inch left or until you burn your fingers. That's when you set down the cigar."

If it means anything, that advice came from Steve Saka.

[staminator]

A long time ago, I read some advice on when to stop smoking any particular cigar you happen to be enjoying at the time. It went something like this:

"There is no set point at which you put down a cigar for last time. You stop smoking the cigar when you stop enjoying it, as to not ruin the pleasant memory of the part you have already enjoyed. Be it at the halfway point, the band, an inch left or until you burn your fingers. That's when you set down the cigar."

If it means anything, that advice came from Steve Saka.

Well that works for me. That is the exact reason I stop smoking usually with an inch or so left on most cigars. -(P

[icehog3]

I had a cigar worthy of burnt fingertips tonight. ;)

[Devanmc]

I had a cigar worthy of burnt fingertips tonight. ;)

same brother, but a xikar multi-tool kept that from happening.

[icehog3]

same brother, but a xikar multi-tool kept that from happening.

I will consider my burnt fingertips a badge of honor tonight. :r

[Devanmc]

:r but ill leave it at that, dont want to clutter this up to much with banter...we have an app(thread) for that :r

[davidletteney]

I'm fairly new to cigars and have been using a guillotine cutter. is there any advantage to using a punch or different style cutter? also what is a cheap but reliable pair of cutters to have?

[pnoon]

I'm fairly new to cigars and have been using a guillotine cutter. is there any advantage to using a punch or different style cutter? also what is a cheap but reliable pair of cutters to have?

It's all a matter of personal preference.
And you'll find a wide variety of opinions on quality cutters. Palio and Xikar are two big names that make quality cutters. I'm partial to Palio.

[joeobx]

It's all a matter of personal preference.
And you'll find a wide variety of opinions on quality cutters. Palio and Xikar are two big names that make quality cutters. I'm partial to Palio.

I have both and it's pretty much a toss up between the two. I like a punch fo a mixed filler like a TAT P3.
Just my :2

[Devanmc]

so far i only have xikar, love both cutters. but obviously the choice is a personal pref

i also prefer a cut over a punch

[CoreyD]

I have 2 coolidors at home what would I need to do to get them to be able to lock and still keep air tightness and such without having to buy a new coolidor

[bobarian]

I have 2 coolidors at home what would I need to do to get them to be able to lock and still keep air tightness and such without having to buy a new coolidor

You could use a locking hasp, but any lock you use will be stronger than the cooler itself and could just be pulled off. Why do you need to lock a cooler? You could also just put the coolers in a closet and lock the door. :sh

[T.G]

I have 2 coolidors at home what would I need to do to get them to be able to lock and still keep air tightness and such without having to buy a new coolidor

Depends how badly they leak. Being completely airtight isn't necessary. Some self-adhesive vinyl foam weather stripping can help tremendously, but you might have to weight the lid to get them to close fully (stack the coolers, place a few hard cover books on the top cooler, or something). If the leak is severe, you're probably better off just getting a new cooler and either using the leaky one for it's intended purpose or just sell it on Craigslist for a few bucks. :2

[CoreyD]

Why do you need to lock a cooler?
Kids and a woman at the house that are vengeful and on way out. Closet won't work cause all my closets she has a reason to get into.I'm not worried about my son because he respects me.

[bobarian]

Kids and a woman at the house that are vengeful and on way out. Closet won't work cause all my closets she has a reason to get into.I'm not worried about my son because he respects me.

I would take them to a friends house for temporary storage. Not really practical to put a lock on a plastic cooler, you could just yank out the screws with a pair of pliers. :2

[T.G]

I would take them to a friends house for temporary storage. Not really practical to put a lock on a plastic cooler, you could just yank out the screws with a pair of pliers. :2

Bob is wise.

Epoxy wouldn't hold any better than the screws - plus, one doesn't even have to get into a cooler or humidor to damage the contents.

[Zeuceone]

Is it wise to put a humi pillow with sticks being mailed?

[Zeuceone]

Another question I seen some cigars with what looks like some small circles that are lighter in color than the wrapper. Is that from beetles? Its about ten or so, I know its not normal

[T.G]

Is it wise to put a humi pillow with sticks being mailed?

Depends on where you are mailing them. For any shipments in the CONUS + Hawaii, I don't use them. If the cigars are properly humidified prior to shipment and placed in a bag that doesn't leak, the cigars will be there in a few days and it's not really necessary. The only time I use them is when I direct ship to Iraq/A'stan or Japan and the shipments can take weeks to be delivered (7-10 days for Japan). :2

Another question I seen some cigars with what looks like some small circles that are lighter in color than the wrapper. Is that from beetles? Its about ten or so, I know its not normal

Those sound like waterspots. Just a cosmetic discoloration in the leaf, nothing to worry about. Doesn't affect taste or structural integrity, just looks unattractive.

[Zeuceone]

Thanks.

[chachee52]

So I've have my 200ct humidor for about a year now. I have two bead tubes in it that are up to the size of the humidor (I always go above the recommended amount so I know there there is plenty). It is usually at 68% and I typically "energize" the beads once every two months of so. Recently I have noticed that every time I go into the humidor after adding more water, it's already down to about 60-62% in about a week. The beads are turning a tan/sandy color and all I have been using is distilled water in a spray bottle.
Do beads go bad? Is this something I should be worried about?

[bobarian]

You will see many threads about people having Rh "problems" at this time of year. Nothing to be concerned about. Beads dont go bad. But with the increase in the heat inside your house also comes a drop in humidity and the beads will work harder. You can increase the % of clear beads to 75-80% and that will help. There is nothing wrong with any Rh between 60 and 70%. As long as your cigars are smoking well there is nothing to worry about. :2

[T.G]

You will see many threads about people having Rh "problems" at this time of year. Nothing to be concerned about. Beads dont go bad. But with the increase in the heat inside your house also comes a drop in humidity and the beads will work harder. You can increase the % of clear beads to 75-80% and that will help. There is nothing wrong with any Rh between 60 and 70%. As long as your cigars are smoking well there is nothing to worry about. :2

All very true.

I just wanted to add a comment that directly addresses Todd's mention of his beads turning a tan color. Todd, most likely it's a little tobacco dust or something related in the air of the humidor is causing them to stain. It happens often and as Bob said, they don't go bad and there is nothing to worry about, aside from the change in color, it doesn't affect them in the slightest.

[Zeuceone]

The color change is usually due to ammonia absorbing into them.

[bobarian]

The color change is usually due to ammonia absorbing into them.

Ammonia is colorless.

But it may also be due to other organic/inorganic compounds released by the cigars. I seem recall Dave from Heartfelt saying something about this a while ago.

[chachee52]

Thanks guys. Just don't remember it dropping that low last year.
The few cigars I've had lately seem to be smoking very well. I'll just have to watch it a little more closely.
Thanks again!

[omgbiscuit]

I was originally planning on buying a humi, but the more I search around here the more I'm convinced I should just buy a cooler and turn it into one :D

My only problem is that, though I've searched, I'm finding it hard to find any information for the complete newb on how to start and maintain a coolerdor.

Also how would I go about procuring some boxes for one if I don't have a B&M nearby that sells any cigars aside from maybe some swischer sweets, but I don't really fancy putting those boxes in there.

[Bill86]

I was originally planning on buying a humi, but the more I search around here the more I'm convinced I should just buy a cooler and turn it into one :D

My only problem is that, though I've searched, I'm finding it hard to find any information for the complete newb on how to start and maintain a coolerdor.

Also how would I go about procuring some boxes for one if I don't have a B&M nearby that sells any cigars aside from maybe some swischer sweets, but I don't really fancy putting those boxes in there.

Alright brother, here's what you do.

1. Go to Walmart
2. Get a cooler, 70-150 quart pick one you think is reasonable and then buy 2 sizes bigger than that.
3. Take the cooler and clean it out with hot water and baking soda (let it dry out)
4. Buy heartfelt or shilala beads. (use their charts and round up BIG time)
5. Fill said cooler
6. Buy another one
7. Repeat.
8. Repeat some more.
9. PM me with any questions you ever have, I will answer them all.

With the beads you'll need to use a spray bottle with distilled water every 2 months and when you get them. Just read the instructions at heartfelt or shilala's beads and you'll be good as gold. Most of the people here (90%+) swear by them, including myself. Others that have huge epic aristocrats that require something else entirely.


Now as for cigars, you can use many of online vendors. Most of us will tell you cigarsatyourprice.com is the best vendor out there or the party source. Maybe towercigars or fullers pullers. Anyways just pick one and buy samplers and see what you like. Everyones tastes are different. If you have no B&M shop near you (within an hour) you're stuck ordering online. It's not a bad thing but you'll have to find out what kind of cigars you like. Maybe even buy a nice 20-25 cigar sampler from someone here at CA.

[omgbiscuit]

Alright brother, here's what you do.

1. Go to Walmart
2. Get a cooler, 70-150 quart pick one you think is reasonable and then buy 2 sizes bigger than that.
3. Take the cooler and clean it out with hot water and baking soda (let it dry out)
4. Buy heartfelt or shilala beads. (use their charts and round up BIG time)
5. Fill said cooler
6. Buy another one
7. Repeat.
8. Repeat some more.
9. PM me with any questions you ever have, I will answer them all.

With the beads you'll need to use a spray bottle with distilled water every 2 months and when you get them. Just read the instructions at heartfelt or shilala's beads and you'll be good as gold. Most of the people here (90%+) swear by them, including myself. Others that have huge epic aristocrats that require something else entirely.


Now as for cigars, you can use many of online vendors. Most of us will tell you cigarsatyourprice.com is the best vendor out there or the party source. Maybe towercigars or fullers pullers. Anyways just pick one and buy samplers and see what you like. Everyones tastes are different. If you have no B&M shop near you (within an hour) you're stuck ordering online. It's not a bad thing but you'll have to find out what kind of cigars you like. Maybe even buy a nice 20-25 cigar sampler from someone here at CA.

Thanks for the great details! :D

Definitely expect a few PMs, you dug your own grave on that one!

I assume with the baking soda you just mean let a box sit in there for a few days rather than just sprinkle it in there?

I have to get a little more time under my belt before I'm able to join in the trades here, unfortunately.

[gravelman]

Jeremy, Bill said it best...I bought a 150 count humi a few years back when I wanted to take this interest seriously. It was a matter of weeks before I was looking for something else to put sticks in. I have a few small coolers now, as well as ammo boxes that I have lined with spanish cedar, and they are so simple to maintain. You do not have to worry as much about leaks due to poor craftsmanship, and they seal so nicely. Good luck to You, and have fun filling it!

[Bill86]

No biggie on the trades, and definitely not a grave brother. I really owe it to all the people here that have helped me a long my way. I'm more than happy to pay my dues and give back to the excellent people we have here on this forum by helping anyone I can that joins. Just keep posting and the world of knowledge will expand to you, until then there is always great vendors and you can always shoot me a PM. I'm on the forums like 5 hours a day, no joke.

No just take the cooler and scrub it out really good, there might be a plastic smell in there you just want to scrub that out with hot soapy water and baking soda. Wipe it down really good. Chances are there isn't but hey this is hundreds if not thousands of dollars you'll be investing over the months (years) with this hobby so why take the chances eh?


Jeremy, Bill said it best...I bought a 150 count humi a few years back when I wanted to take this interest seriously. It was a matter of weeks before I was looking for something else to put sticks in. I have a few small coolers now, as well as ammo boxes that I have lined with spanish cedar, and they are so simple to maintain. You do not have to worry as much about leaks due to poor craftsmanship, and they seal so nicely. Good luck to You, and have fun filling it!

Sean is right, really a humidor only needs a very good seal. Anything would work, just as long as it has no smell and locks up very tight. A coolidor is great for those on a budget realizing they need A LOT of storage to warrant anything nicer being bought in the future. I started with a 300 count thinking I had all the space in the world, now it's nearly full and I "graduated" to a 120 quart cooler. I'll be seeing a few more of those in my future no doubt.

[omgbiscuit]

Great! These were the exact answers I was looking for :D

The idea of spending a little less on a humidor and having some more for some nice smokes just too appealing to me :)

[bobarian]

Coolers are an ideal budget solution to cigar storage. But I am an advocate of smaller coolers. 48-50qt coolers are easily stackable in a closet and it gives the ability to separate and expand as your collection grows. Smaller coolers are also easier to move around.

I would also recommend getting a small 70-100ct desktop humidor($50-75) for singles storage and for everyday smoking. Beads are the way to go. I use 65% Heartfelt beads, you'll need about 1/2 pound per 48qt cooler. If you find you prefer some smokes at a bit higher Rh, the smaller coolers will allow you to use a higher humidity in a separate cooler. :2

[jesseboston81]

I have to get a little more time under my belt before I'm able to join in the trades here, unfortunately.

You're able to trade sooner than you think... check out the Newbie Sampler Trade (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14254).

[gravelman]

You're able to trade sooner than you think... check out the Newbie Sampler Trade (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14254).

This is a great thread, I completed my first trade last week and it was a lot of fun. Just jump in and get started; it may seem intimidating, but everyone is very helpful.

[Kreth]

I assume with the baking soda you just mean let a box sit in there for a few days rather than just sprinkle it in there?
Take about half a box and add enough water to make a paste. Scrub the inside of the cooler and leave it overnight. Rinse it out well the next day and leave outside overnight opened up to air out. Add your beads and cigars.
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[Tyler]

I've got a question for you guys. I received some cigars in the mail today from a trade with a brother from the pipe forums. He sent me some CC minis that got banged up in the post, some are dry, and some are cracked. I was wondering how banged up and dry does a cigar have to be to be labeled trash? Is there any hope for these little boogers? I can post pictures if that helps.

[bobarian]

If you can hold it between you fingers then try smoking them. You can repair some damage to larger cigars using liquid pectin. This is available at the grocery store near the canning jars. But minis are usually too small to repair. :2

[Tyler]

I put them in my humidor and I guess I will let them sit in the 65% for a week and then switch it to the 70% for another week to try and regain humidity. Is there a better way to do this or is it the only way?

[Tyler]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/reptman34/6de43343.jpg?t=1297723981

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/reptman34/ca3d1dee.jpg?t=1297724009

[bobarian]

Those appear to be Partagas Short's and JLP Petite Cazadores, much larger than mini's. Rehydrate to 65%, 70 is too high for Cuban cigars. You can repair those wrappers with a little bit of liquid pectin.

[Tyler]

Oh I thought these are minis and smaller are cigarillos? What is the correct verbage so I don't make the mistake again?

Also, why is 70 too high for cubans? I believe you as youbare more experienced than me but I just had never heard that before.

[icehog3]

Oh I thought these are minis and smaller are cigarillos? What is the correct verbage so I don't make the mistake again?

Also, why is 70 too high for cubans? I believe you as youbare more experienced than me but I just had never heard that before.

The vast majority of smokers seem to like find their Cubans smoke better and taste better at 65% or below....I keep mine around 62%. At 70%, they seem to smoke "wet"....problemed burns, problems staying lit, flavor issues, etc. I know this from my own experience, but can't explain the "science" behind it.

[Kreth]

Also, why is 70 too high for cubans? I believe you as youbare more experienced than me but I just had never heard that before.
70 is too high for anything, IMO. I find my sticks smoke best around 65. But if you like the way your sticks are smoking, don't worry about the numbers... :2
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[Bill86]

Oh I thought these are minis and smaller are cigarillos? What is the correct verbage so I don't make the mistake again?

Also, why is 70 too high for cubans? I believe you as youbare more experienced than me but I just had never heard that before.


Minis and cigarillos are more like a ring gauge in the 20's. Party shorts are a 42 RG, I personally lump them in with the "Petit Corona sized sticks". Knowing all the correct sizing on every CC would be too much IMO. Technically the petit cazadores is a ....petit cazadores 4 1/8 x 43. But for my purpose and reasoning they are "PC sized sticks".

[Tyler]

Thanks for the info fellas. I will post any more questions I come across. :tu

[sanukmac]

Hi , I am a new member here and I am hoping that someone can help me with a humidor question . I live in Chiang Mai , Thailand and the weather gets real hot here so I assume that this is a problem for keeping cigars ?
I am thinking that a wine cooler is the best option ? I have found 4 or 5 wine coolers that I can buy here , a couple of different Sanyo's as well as a couple of Samsungs .
I hear that thermoelectric is the way to go but even after doing a lot of searching on the net , have not been able to figure out if these coolers are thermoelectric or not :sh
So I guess my questions are :
1) Do I need to buy a wine cooler as it gets up to over 100F here in the hot season ?
2) How the hell do I figure out weather the cooler is thermoelectric or not ?
And asking the salesman here in Thailand is not the answer as very very few salespeople here have any knowledge of the product that they are selling .
These are the 4 coolers that are available in this area , any help is appreciated , thanks everyone in advance .

sanyo SBC-245K
sanyo SBC-725K
samsung rw52dass
samsung rw33ebss

[icehog3]

I looked through the internet for Samsung and Sanyo wine coolers and could not find anything, even without trying to use the model numbers. Do you have other wine cooler options available?

[Cornrow_Wallis]

I found them all online, but the sanyo website was only in Thai(I guess) and there was no mention of what kind of cooling unit the samsung ones used. The samsung site has a contact us section, have you tried calling or emailing?

The sanyo ones:
http://www.sanyo.co.th/coldchain/products/wine_cellar/index.php

The samsungs:
http://www.samsung.com/ie/consumer/home-appliances/refrigeration/wine-coolers/RW52DASS1/XEU/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/appliances/refrigerators/winecellar/RW33EBSS1/XSH/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=support

Compressor type coolers can be made to work, but most prefer thermoelectric. If you can't get thermoelectric, ya gotta make do with what you can get. I don't have any real experience with wine coolers, so maybe someone else can give a better answer.

If you can't get a hold of anyone over there, I could call their N. American help lines and see if they know anything.

[MiamiE]

Do a Google search for Vinotemp. They have some nice models and I am sure they have a distributor in Asia. :tu

[sanukmac]

Hi and thanks for getting back to me , I will do some more searching and see if I can find a wine cooler that is thermoelectric , these are the only brands that I have come up with so far . I am pretty sure that the ones that I have previously mentioned are not thermoelectric and yes that language was Thai .
On a side note I guess there is no way that I can get away with not using a cooler here in Thailand as it is so hot ?

[bobarian]

I would talk to other enthusiasts in your area regarding the necessity of a wine cooler. They may have other alternatives or be able to steer you in the right direction. Good luck.

[ysr_racer]

Hi,

Can I use coarse Kosher salt for the salt test? It's all I have in the house right now.

[kydsid]

Hi,

Can I use coarse Kosher salt for the salt test? It's all I have in the house right now.


Potentially. Salt testing is really about making a paste with the salt and just a bit of water. If the crystals are bigger like they are in most kosher salts achieving paste might be a bit difficult. Might have to grind up the salt to get it to work.

But I say sense kosher salt costs more than the cheap iodized stuff just wait until the next grocery visit. Unless you have ridiculously high humidity or no humidity even a couple days at where its at will have a long term affect on the cigars.

[SteveH]

I used kosher salt for my salt test; worked fine. Just realize that its a fine line between just right and too much water.

[Zeuceone]

i noticed a tiny bit of mold brewing on the humidity puck in my humi, any reason why?

[T.G]

i noticed a tiny bit of mold brewing on the humidity puck in my humi, any reason why?

You're using the floral foam humidifier (aka: "credo") I take it?

Not an uncommon occurrence, considering it's a perfect environment for mold to grow, and PG solution won't completely stop it.

I'd just toss it and order some beads from either Heartfelt or Michael (CigarNut).

[Zeuceone]

yes im suign the foam. the mold is actually on the plastic puck. definately going to get beads once i have cigars to fill my humi. thanks, adam.

[chachee52]

So to keep with the hydrometer theme a little. I bought mine about a year and a half ago. How long to the batteries usually last and when you change the battery i would assume that you should also recalibtrate it?
Mine seems to be starting to get a little hard to read so I was going to go get a new battery anyway.

[T.G]

So to keep with the hydrometer theme a little. I bought mine about a year and a half ago. How long to the batteries usually last and when you change the battery i would assume that you should also recalibtrate it?
Mine seems to be starting to get a little hard to read so I was going to go get a new battery anyway.

How long the batteries last depends on the hygrometer and the batteries. Certain types & brands of batteries will last more or less than others, but it's probably best to change it once every 6 months to a year regardless.

Rechecking the calibration at that point isn't a bad thing.

[Whee]

So to keep with the hydrometer theme a little. I bought mine about a year and a half ago. How long to the batteries usually last and when you change the battery i would assume that you should also recalibtrate it?
Mine seems to be starting to get a little hard to read so I was going to go get a new battery anyway.

Really depends on the battery. I have had them last months. Just had to change them recently with batteries that only lasted about 5 weeks.:td

I always recalibrate with new batteries, just in case.

[CigarNut]

So to keep with the hydrometer theme a little. I bought mine about a year and a half ago. How long to the batteries usually last and when you change the battery i would assume that you should also recalibtrate it?
Mine seems to be starting to get a little hard to read so I was going to go get a new battery anyway.
Personally I change the batteries in mine about every three months. Proabably overkill, but it's only a few bucks against my peace-of-mind.

Digital hgygrometers need a good battery in order to provide accurate results. As the battery degrades so does the accuracy.

Also, when you change the batteries I recommend recalibrating/retesting.

[chachee52]

Thought this was going to be the answer but thought I'd ask the people that have been doing it for years.
Thanks guys!!!

[Bill86]

Damn now that It's mentioned my batteries in my current hygro are a good 6 months - 8 months old. Thanks for the reminder :tu

[CoreyD]

So today I was talking to a worker at the B&M and we were talking about what I kept my humidity at and I told him i am usually between 62 and 65 and he wondered why so low he told me some wrappers split and crack at that humidity but I have yet had a problem. He suggested near the 70 marker but yet I could swear on here between 63 and 65 was good.

[Bill86]

So today I was talking to a worker at the B&M and we were talking about what I kept my humidity at and I told him i am usually between 62 and 65 and he wondered why so low he told me some wrappers split and crack at that humidity but I have yet had a problem. He suggested near the 70 marker but yet I could swear on here between 63 and 65 was good.

Ever smoke a cigar out of a B&M humidor? They go out on you AT LEAST twice. High RH does that. Also they get so spongy you almost cannot smoke them below say 35%.

Most workers in B&M's really have no clue. I hate to say it but they really don't know much more then they are told.

B&M shops have to keep their humidors up at 70-73 RH to make up for all the traffic they get. Opening the door a lot and whatnot. I'm still convinced they could drop the RH to 68 and things would work out much better for everyone. But that's just my guess.

The few cigars I've smoked out of the Humidor at work always go out on me A LOT. The ones I bring from home usually never go out on me. Unless of course I leave them for a few minutes. Much easier to nub my own sticks or at least smoke them down to the band.

[longknocker]

So today I was talking to a worker at the B&M and we were talking about what I kept my humidity at and I told him i am usually between 62 and 65 and he wondered why so low he told me some wrappers split and crack at that humidity but I have yet had a problem. He suggested near the 70 marker but yet I could swear on here between 63 and 65 was good.

I Agree, Corey!:tu I've Tried Every RH From 60-70 & 63-65 Works For Me. I Smoked Several Sticks Lately @ 67 RH & They Were Harsh & Went Out. :2

[CoreyD]

he told me some wrappers split and crack at that humidity.
See my concern was more this part.. I have around only 300 cigars in my coolidors and desktop and would hate lose even 1 due to improper storage. Going out part isn't an issue when I have a lighter in my hands or pocket hehe.

[chachee52]

See my concern was more this part.. I have around only 300 cigars in my coolidors and desktop and would hate lose even 1 due to improper storage. Going out part isn't an issue when I have a lighter in my hands or pocket hehe.

I'm by no means an expert, but I keep mine usually in the low 60% range and never have had a splitting problem. I will say that mine used to split when I went for walks in the winter with a cigar. Recently, now that I have proper storage and humidity, this has not been an issue. I used to use just a traveldor which I'm sure was very low humidity and got a ton of splitting, but like I said, it was only when I went out and walked in the winter.
just my experience so far.

[pnoon]

I'm by no means an expert, but I keep mine usually in the low 60% range and never have had a splitting problem.

:tpd:

[ODLS1]

I'm sure this has been discussed plenty, but I couldn't find an answer with my searching, so I guess I'll ask here:

Would a cigar box work as a humidor if I put some beads in it or something? I know many boxes wouldn't, but I have a Cohiba Supremo box that seems to seal pretty tight, and I never have more than 10 at a time really, and don't plan to have more than that for a long time. Money won't allow it. This will be temporary as I plan to build a humidor when I get the time and money (I'd rather build to my liking than buy). I have a few very nice cigars I want to take care of without buying a humidor just yet, if feasible. I've been doing the humidipak thing in a ziplock bag, in a box. Thanks for any help.

[Bill86]

I would say just get a 15 count traveldor instead of a cigar box. Toss a tube of beads in it and call it even.

[bobarian]

I'm sure this has been discussed plenty, but I couldn't find an answer with my searching, so I guess I'll ask here:

Would a cigar box work as a humidor if I put some beads in it or something? I know many boxes wouldn't, but I have a Cohiba Supremo box that seems to seal pretty tight, and I never have more than 10 at a time really, and don't plan to have more than that for a long time. Money won't allow it. This will be temporary as I plan to build a humidor when I get the time and money (I'd rather build to my liking than buy). I have a few very nice cigars I want to take care of without buying a humidor just yet, if feasible. I've been doing the humidipak thing in a ziplock bag, in a box. Thanks for any help.

Tupperware is your friend. :banger If you cant dig one out of the cupboard, Target has some nice small boxes from Sterlite with snap closures. You can find them with the ziploc stuff in the grocery section for under $10. :2

[ODLS1]

Hmm, I may go one of those routes then. I figured keeping them in cedar was ideal.

[bobarian]

Hmm, I may go one of those routes then. I figured keeping them in cedar was ideal.

You can always throw in a sheet of cedar from a box. If you dont have one you can probably pick one up at your local shop for free. Cedar just adds a nice smell but is not totally necessary. :2

[chachee52]

I would say just get a 15 count traveldor instead of a cigar box. Toss a tube of beads in it and call it even.

This is what I did for about a year or two. Now I have it to bring around with me now that I have a collection of cigars. It's not like it will ever go unused.

[taltos]

So today I was talking to a worker at the B&M and we were talking about what I kept my humidity at and I told him i am usually between 62 and 65 and he wondered why so low he told me some wrappers split and crack at that humidity but I have yet had a problem. He suggested near the 70 marker but yet I could swear on here between 63 and 65 was good.In addition to Bill's excellent comments, I have noticed draw problems and a sour taste from cigars kept at 70 or higher. The only problem that I have had with cracking wrappers is when our New England climate is too cold.

[ODLS1]

You can always throw in a sheet of cedar from a box. If you dont have one you can probably pick one up at your local shop for free. Cedar just adds a nice smell but is not totally necessary. :2

Ah, I see, thanks. Yea that box actually has a nice sheet in it too.

This is what I did for about a year or two. Now I have it to bring around with me now that I have a collection of cigars. It's not like it will ever go unused.

While it's more than some tupperware, I may go this route for the same reasoning. It would be nice to have to take on vacations and different places in general.

Thanks for the help. I'm obviously on a budget and can only smoke here and there, but I have an Opus X, ESG, and Fuente Anejo that I want to save for a good occasion and take good care of in the mean time.

[smokepuff]

I'm on a budget at the moment an is trying to go the cheapest route possible until I can afford a large enough humidor. I'd hate to spend money on the smaller ones just my :2

At the moment I using a large Tupperware container with 35mm film canister with lots of pin holes. I inserted a clean sponge that I dampen with distilled water as my make shift humidifier. I was wondering would this work also I'm using this to monitor the humidity and temperature inside the box.
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/partshelf/thermo-hygro-acu-rite-00326l.jpg

What are your thoughts?

[Chingas]

Patrick, if it works, go for it. Personally, I'd grab a few Boveda packs or water pillows and ditch the film canister.

At the end of the day, if your hygrometer is accurate and your cigars smoke the way you like, you're in good shape.

[CigarNut]

The Hygrometer is probably OK -- have you tried testing it to see how accurate it is?

I think tupperware is great for cigars, but the damp-sponge-in-a-35mm-container makes me cringe... You would be better off with beads (any sort) or a Boveda pack. The sponge will only release moisture until the container is saturated. It will not regulate RH. This is critical in a tightly sealed container like tupperware.

You can get beads or a Boveda pack at very reasonable prices...

[smokepuff]

Thanks for your thoughts, No I have tried testing it to see how accurate it is, I just assumed it was accurate enough. And I am going to add some beads to the equation ASAP.

[CoreyD]

Cigar lighters?
I have gone from expensive cigar lighters to med priced to cheap $12 one from the B &M since I started cigar smoking regularly in October last year went through 3 lighters and all my last lighters stopped clicking/igniting or got lost. Am I using them to much or I smoke more that the average bear if thats the case whats a good lighter , I'm almost thinking of keep getting cheapos but $12 can add up over the year.

[dadof3illinois]

Cigar lighters?
I have gone from expensive cigar lighters to med priced to cheap $12 one from the B &M since I started cigar smoking regularly in October last year went through 3 lighters and all my last lighters stopped clicking/igniting or got lost. Am I using them to much or I smoke more that the average bear if thats the case whats a good lighter , I'm almost thinking of keep getting cheapos but $12 can add up over the year.


For me, I love the blazer torch lighter. I've never had any issues with the ones I've got and I've been using them for the last 4-5 years now. I think I picked up 3 or 4 way back in a group buy and they all still work great.
I would think you could find some from one of the vendors that advertise here.

[bobarian]

You can get six of these delivered to your door for $12. It will take 4-5 weeks but they are well worth the price. You will not find a better value and they hold up quite well. I am using a couple now that are well over a 18months old.
Dealextreme.com

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1046/sku41791.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/sku41791.jpg/)

[emopunker2004]

Cigar lighters?
I have gone from expensive cigar lighters to med priced to cheap $12 one from the B &M since I started cigar smoking regularly in October last year went through 3 lighters and all my last lighters stopped clicking/igniting or got lost. Am I using them to much or I smoke more that the average bear if thats the case whats a good lighter , I'm almost thinking of keep getting cheapos but $12 can add up over the year.

Ronson Jetlite= $3-5 at your local Walmart or CVS

[themachine]

I was recently given a small humidor. The guy who gave it to me liked to put a shot of rum in the bottom of it to flavor his cigars, I would never do this method myself but that was what he liked. So the rum actually spilled onto the bottom of the humidor and now is stuck in a glob is there anything I can do to get it off? I didnt think that it would be good to use any chemical solutions and just scrubbing it with a wet paper towl did nothing. Is there any way i can save this humidor?

[NCRadioMan]

Sandpaper would be your friend in this situation. :tu Be sure to sand all sides to get the artificial flavor of rum out of the cedar. Re-season and you should be good to go.

[bobarian]

Sandpaper would be your friend in this situation. :tu Be sure to sand all sides to get the artificial flavor of rum out of the cedar. Re-season and you should be good to go.

Sorry Greg, but sandpaper is not a good idea with Spanish Cedar. The dust particles are very small and can damage the lungs.

Try rubbing alcohol or Everclear on a paper towel. Dont soak the spot as you can damage the cedar. :2

[NCRadioMan]

Sorry Greg, but sandpaper is not a good idea with Spanish Cedar. The dust particles are very small and can damage the lungs.

Try rubbing alcohol or Everclear on a paper towel. Dont soak the spot as you can damage the cedar. :2

Interesting. I've had manufacturers recommend it for stains and lots of mold growth. :sh

I've done it with fantastic results numerous times but I have also worked in a wood shop with no mask too. :D

[bobarian]

Interesting. I've had manufacturers recommend it for stains and lots of mold growth. :sh

I've done it with fantastic results numerous times but I have also worked in a wood shop with no mask too. :D

Although I have read different accounts, I do not think the dust is actually toxic. But it is more of an irritant than something like pine or oak. :sh

[pnoon]

I think it depends on what a "small humidor" is.
If it is a 75 count or less, I would just buy a new one.
:2
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[T.G]

I think it depends on what a "small humidor" is.
If it is a 75 count or less, I would just buy a new one.
:2
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:tpd:


I'm not sure you'll ever be able to get the smell of the rum out of there.

Also, the lower cost humidors are typically constructed from a almost paper thin SC veneer applied over press board, so the stain could easily have penetrated all the way through the entire veneer.

I'd go with Peter's suggestion and, if this is a nice looking humidor, just keep it and use it to store cutters, lighters, matches, punches, etc...

[CigarNut]

...but I have also worked in a wood shop with no mask too. :DThat explains SOOOO much :)

[themachine]

Thanks for all the great information. I think i will just try to clean it and use it as storage for my cutters and lighters. It is about a 50 cigar humidor so i dont think it is worth saving.

[Sherlockholms]

I have been givin a Donatus Solingen germany cutter. I am trying to find out how Do I sharpen this thing? Do I have to dismantle it? and if so how do I go about doing this? Any info on this would be great. who would have thunk there is so little info for such a great cutter.

[Sherlockholms]

Cigar lighters?
I have gone from expensive cigar lighters to med priced to cheap $12 one from the B &M since I started cigar smoking regularly in October last year went through 3 lighters and all my last lighters stopped clicking/igniting or got lost. Am I using them to much or I smoke more that the average bear if thats the case whats a good lighter , I'm almost thinking of keep getting cheapos but $12 can add up over the year.

Check your local walmart for a Ronson JetLite lighter. These are nice little lighters, light everytime and from asking around and talking with people they last for years. And best of all you can get them for less then 3 bucks. For the price of a bic, they are a steal.

[T.G]

I have been givin a Donatus Solingen germany cutter. I am trying to find out how Do I sharpen this thing? Do I have to dismantle it? and if so how do I go about doing this? Any info on this would be great. who would have thunk there is so little info for such a great cutter.

Does it look something like this?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5048/5274003243_006f157681.jpg

The blade isn't removable.

You could disassemble it by knocking the pivot pin out, but that could destroy the cutter and might require access to a machine shop to properly reassemble.

FWIW - Solingen isn't part of the company name, it's the city where the company is located. Many manufacturers of high quality steel knives, tools and cutlery have been located there for many hundreds of years, and some of the best steel in the country comes out of there. It's both a pride thing and stamp of quality - it's not just German steel, it's steel forged in Solingen, Germany, a step above. All the steel forging companies located in that city stamp Solingen Germany on their product to show it's (superior) origins.

[Sherlockholms]

That is exactly what it is. Thanks for the info on what Solingen is. I have been doing some searches on it and have came across allot of sites that make knifes, scissors etc. as well. Well, I was thinking of finding a way of knocking the pins out but that would be a major pain. Is there a way to sharpen the front blade through the V-cut slot? I have seen these cutters go for quite a bit of money, you would think there would be some way to sharpen them. Thanks again for the info T.G.!

[T.G]

No problem, it's a common misunderstanding, I made it myself many years ago too.

I suppose you could knock the pin out with a roll punch but I would worry that the pin could be a press fit and if it is, once you knock it out, the hole will be left expanded, so that when you go to put the pin back in there won't be enough pressure to hold it there.

I've heard some people claim great success with deburring a blade by crumpling up some aluminum foil into a cylinder type shape and then cutting it with the cutter a bunch of times. I tired it once with a cheapie double guillotine, I can't say if it helped any or not, but it didn't hurt it.

[bobarian]

Maybe try a dedicated knife shop? They should have experience sharpening lots of different kinds of blades. :2

[Whiskeytown]

As i stated in the new user thread I've only recently gotten back into cigars after several years off. I reconditioned my old humidor and put a new battery in a digital hygrometer that I had. It was accurate a few years back and thus I did not do a salt test (doing one now). For the few months it has been set up it has been sitting nicely at 69/68RH with 1+/- from time to time.

I had my first terrible experience with tunneling, something that hasn't happened to any of my cigars in my humidor yet. This was on a fresh Oliva G that had only been in the box for about 10 days.

I have read that weather conditions can have adverse effects on the cigar as well. I was smoking on my covered porch during a thunderstorm so it was cool (relatively speaking for a southern summer evening) but humid. The first inch of the robusto smoked well but at about the 2" mark it began to tunnel terribly. So much so that even after two attempts at a relight i was only able to smoke about another inch or so to the point that it had tunneled so deeply that i could not successfully relight it and had to give up. So was it weather, a cigar that was just too moist, or even a combination of both? As I stated i'm doing a salt test on my digital hygro as we speak so in 24 hours i'll come back and state what the actual RH has been.

[T.G]

So was it weather, a cigar that was just too moist, or even a combination of both?

Probably a bit of both. If you get your humidor down closer to 65RH and you'll likely have less burn problems, although when you're smoking in 90%-100% humidity air, things can easily go awry.

[Whiskeytown]

In a related question, when you guys pick a cigar to smoke how long before lighting up do you remove it from the humidor? Is it a good idea to do a "rest" stage between removal and smoking to allow any surface moisture to dissipate?

[T.G]

Opinions vary, but I've found that unless you are in an extreme climate, leaving it out of the humidor for a short period of time won't change anything, so it really doesn't mater. You can take it out and light up right away, as typically it would take a day or more to give off a significant amount of moisture.

[Cornrow_Wallis]

If your cigars are too wet for your tastes you can always dry box them for a day or two to bring the humidity down, might help with the burn problems.

[longknocker]

Probably a bit of both. If you get your humidor down closer to 65RH and you'll likely have less burn problems, although when you're smoking in 90%-100% humidity air, things can easily go awry.

:tu I Have The Same Problem In Mobile. When You Store @ 65RH & Smoke In 95-100% Humidity, Cigars Absorb The Moisture, Taste Harsh & Burn Awful!:sad

[Whiskeytown]

thanks guys.

i know it says to wait 24+ hours before making a final reading during a salt test but how long does it truely take to equalize inside the airtight bag?

[T.G]

thanks guys.

i know it says to wait 24+ hours before making a final reading during a salt test but how long does it truely take to equalize inside the airtight bag?

Depends on the volume of the bag and how dry the air was when you started, but you should be seeing something pretty close to the final reading after about 8 hours.

[Blak Smyth]

I bought a new humidor and the analog hygrometer will not read above 45 after 5 days.
I have put it in my neighbors humidor that is stable at 69.
He has an analog and a digital meter reading 69-70.
If mine still only reads at 45 after two days in his humi should I be able to recalibrate it to the 69-70 that his units read?

I will get a digital unit but can't afford it this week.

[jesseboston81]

I bought a new humidor and the analog hygrometer will not read above 45 after 5 days.
I have put it in my neighbors humidor that is stable at 69.
He has an analog and a digital meter reading 69-70.
If mine still only reads at 45 after two days in his humi should I be able to recalibrate it to the 69-70 that his units read?

I will get a digital unit but can't afford it this week.

Analog hygrometers generally are not able to be recalibrated, so until you get something else you'll just have to remember the difference that yours is off by--which sounds like 24-25.

Edit: If you've salt tested your analog hygrometer and it reads 45 even in the salt test (in other words, it reads 45 no matter what the ambient RH is), then you have a more serious problem of a hygrometer that is broken and not just inaccurate. In that case, get a digital hygrometer as soon as you can.

[T.G]

I bought a new humidor and the analog hygrometer will not read above 45 after 5 days.
I have put it in my neighbors humidor that is stable at 69.
He has an analog and a digital meter reading 69-70.
If mine still only reads at 45 after two days in his humi should I be able to recalibrate it to the 69-70 that his units read?

I will get a digital unit but can't afford it this week.


You can check on the back of the hygrometer for a recessed screw, usually a standard slot head, that you can turn to adjust the reading, although, in reality, a large percentage of the cheap analog hygrometers that come included with humidors are junk and not even worth worrying about. Not all are bad, there are some very accurate analog ones out there, just they seem to be far and few between - and typically confined to the more expensive humidors.

You can pick up a decent, reliable hygrometer for about $8 at wal-mart believe it or not. The AccuRite 00613 (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23135).
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/519r8%2BTSAzL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

They are a little on the large side though, so if space is at a premium, they might not work for you.

There is another hygrometer at wal-mart that is about a buck less, it's a small white one, looks like a kitchen timer - very hit and miss. They used to be decent, now, they seem to just be junk. Make sure you salt test whichever one you get.

[Blak Smyth]

You can check on the back of the hygrometer for a recessed screw, usually a standard slot head, that you can turn to adjust the reading, although, in reality, a large percentage of the cheap analog hygrometers that come included with humidors are junk and not even worth worrying about. Not all are bad, there are some very accurate analog ones out there, just they seem to be far and few between - and typically confined to the more expensive humidors.

You can pick up a decent, reliable hygrometer for about $8 at wal-mart believe it or not. The AccuRite 00613 (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=23135).
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/519r8%2BTSAzL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

They are a little on the large side though, so if space is at a premium, they might not work for you.

There is another hygrometer at wal-mart that is about a buck less, it's a small white one, looks like a kitchen timer - very hit and miss. They used to be decent, now, they seem to just be junk. Make sure you salt test whichever one you get.

Yes, I have an adjuster screw on the back of my analog hygrometer.
I did not know I could get a digital at Walmart. Very good info thanks.

[Blak Smyth]

can you write a date on cello with a permanent marker?

[CigarNut]

can you write a date on cello with a permanent marker?I would not recommend it -- cello is permeable and any ink could soak through to the wrapper.

You can buy blank cigar bands and use those. There are many kinds and even some that you can stick in a printer if you are so inclined...

[MrOneEyedBoh]

I would not recommend it -- cello is permeable and any ink could soak through to the wrapper.

You can buy blank cigar bands and use those. There are many kinds and even some that you can stick in a printer if you are so inclined...

There is also an excel file floating around here that will allow you to put the marca and type, date and size on a nice little band. Ive used it and its great.

[NCRadioMan]

can you write a date on cello with a permanent marker?

I have done it for years with no problems using a Sharpie. If you don't wan't to do that, I have also written the date on the cap of the cigar itself with a fine Sharpie with no ill effects.

[Whiskeytown]

The last few mornings i've woken up to my humidor sitting at roughly 66F/74RH and by the time I get home from work it's back to about 68F/69RH. anyone know what the big swing in RH is caused by? Is this natural in the summer?

[jesseboston81]

The last few mornings i've woken up to my humidor sitting at roughly 66F/74RH and by the time I get home from work it's back to about 68F/69RH. anyone know what the big swing in RH is caused by? Is this natural in the summer?

What is the seal on your humidor like? Does the ambient RH in the room where the humidor is kept rise at night and fall during the day?

[Blak Smyth]

The last few mornings i've woken up to my humidor sitting at roughly 66F/74RH and by the time I get home from work it's back to about 68F/69RH. anyone know what the big swing in RH is caused by? Is this natural in the summer?

Im just relieved to learn I am not the only one that checks my humidor that often.

[Tbagley]

The last few mornings i've woken up to my humidor sitting at roughly 66F/74RH and by the time I get home from work it's back to about 68F/69RH. anyone know what the big swing in RH is caused by? Is this natural in the summer?

I wish I could down to 66 degrees without the use of a refrigerator. You using beads or....?

[Whiskeytown]

The humidor is kept in my spare bedroom/office of my condo. It's the coolest room in the condo and we like to sleep cold so at night we set the AC down to 70. During the day while at work we set the AC to 76-77, but it being the coolest room it stays around 74.

The seal on my humidor is great, i thought, i get a nice *whoosh* each time i close it. I'm sitting next to it now and it's at a comfortably 70/70

[inphiniti]

Is a CAO Sensi-Box really has bad as everyone(well, google reviews that is) make them seem? Anyone have one? I just picked one up for $20 to hold my cigars for the time being to see if this is something i really want to get into rather than wasting $50+ on a good Humidor... Any suggestions?

[pnoon]

I don't see spending money on a good humidor as a waste of money. On the contrary, it's an investment.
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[NCRadioMan]

I don't see spending money on a good humidor as a waste of money. On the contrary, it's an investment.
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Agreed. Besides saying that wasting $50 on a good humidor is a contradiction in and of itself. ;)

I have one. It holds rh perfectly at 45% and will not get any higher. Wanna go cheap? Get some Gladware or a cooler.

[area51]

Check out cheap humidors.com and thank me later.

[Blak Smyth]

Check out cheap humidors.com and thank me later.

That is CI's sister brother website!?! I always check prices there before ordering online.

[area51]

I don't believe that it is owned by CI but I could be wrong.

[Blak Smyth]

I don't believe that it is owned by CI but I could be wrong.

Nevermind that was Humidor.com I was talking about;s

It works for me becasue it is the only CI site I can access while at work.

[area51]

Haha but yeah cheaphumidors.com is my go to best price and selection IMO. I try to stay away from CI, I dislike them as a vendor /rant.

[Blak Smyth]

Haha but yeah cheaphumidors.com is my go to best price and selection IMO. I try to stay away from CI, I dislike them as a vendor /rant.

I don't have any issues to date with CI, however I can't access many cigar sites from work. Humidors.com is about the only one.

[inphiniti]

I don't it came out right... I didn't necessarily mean wasting money, just however since I'm fairly new into.the whole cigar thing, I don't want to drop $50+ on a little humidor. If I do feel this.is something I want to do, I will absolutely spend the necessary coin on a great humidor...

Thanks for the replies guys. I saw a ton of mixed reviews about the CAO sensibox.

[area51]

Welcome to the forum anywho

[inphiniti]

Welcome to the forum anywho

thanks! ill definitely try the sites you mentioned once i know ill be sticking around for some time :D

[irratebass]

I just received my new humi from Thompson's humidor/sample offer....they sent me a 20ct humi and 25 smokes, is this too many for my humidor? Or am I just over thinking it?

I wished I would have sent with cheaphumidors.com now, they have much better deals, oh well live and learn I guess.

[Blak Smyth]

I just received my new humi from Thompson's humidor/sample offer....they sent me a 20ct humi and 25 smokes, is this too many for my humidor? Or am I just over thinking it?

I wished I would have sent with cheaphumidors.com now, they have much better deals, oh well live and learn I guess.

Smoke 5, problem solved.:r
From what I understand you can keep the extras in tupperware for a few days if they won't fit in the humidor.

[T.G]

I just received my new humi from Thompson's humidor/sample offer....they sent me a 20ct humi and 25 smokes, is this too many for my humidor? Or am I just over thinking it?



The size ratings of humidors are estimates and not all of them are based on the same size cigars.

Put your cigars in and see how they fit. You don't want it completely stuffed, but if it's mostly full, then you're ok.

If you can't put them all in, get a tupperware container and stick the excess in there until you smoke them.

[irratebass]

They actually fit in there ok, in fact I could probably put another 7-10 sticks in there and still be ok.

Thanks guys!

[gbum]

Hi,
hope anybody can help me on these matter;
when it come to choose a wine chiller to be our cigar storage...is there any particular thing that we need to consider beside size and design... like do we need to consider between thermoelectric and compressor system?is that really matter in order to keep cigars?

thanks

[Bill86]

Thermoelectric is preferred. I believe it was Scott (Shilala) that had a compressor conversion thread up somewhere though.

[area51]

Hi,
hope anybody can help me on these matter;
when it come to choose a wine chiller to be our cigar storage...is there any particular thing that we need to consider beside size and design... like do we need to consider between thermoelectric and compressor system?is that really matter in order to keep cigars?

thanks

Go with thermo electric if your going to put beads in the wine cooler. BUT with that said, I have a compressor with tupperwear that slides perfectly in the rack slots. I keep a thing of beads and each and it's perfect. The prime reason for buying mine however was to control temp and this does it perfectly.

[sacsmitty]

Long time lurker, first time post.

I recently met a guy that had a Xikar VX V Cutter. I cut my cigar with it and instantly fell in love. I'm not having a lot of luck finding places to buy one online.

Any recommendations?

[icehog3]

Long time lurker, first time post.

I recently met a guy that had a Xikar VX V Cutter. I cut my cigar with it and instantly fell in love. I'm not having a lot of luck finding places to buy one online.

Any recommendations?

http://www.amazon.com/Xikar-VX-V-Cut-Gunmetal/dp/B004G6XJYS

http://neptune-cigars-inc.amazonwebstore.com/Xikar-VX-VCut-Gunmetal/M/B004G6XJYS.htm?traffic_src=froogle&utm_medium=CSE&utm_source=froogle

http://www.cigarking.com/xikar-vx-gun-metal-v-cutter/

http://www.atlanticcigar.com/Cigar-Cutters/Xikar-Xikar-VX-V-Cutter-Gunmetal.asp?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=comparsionshopping&aff=5112

http://www.elighters.com/xi155gm.html

[irratebass]

That's an expensive cutter imo.

[irratebass]

http://www.amazon.com/Xikar-VX-V-Cut-Gunmetal/dp/B004G6XJYS

http://neptune-cigars-inc.amazonwebstore.com/Xikar-VX-VCut-Gunmetal/M/B004G6XJYS.htm?traffic_src=froogle&utm_medium=CSE&utm_source=froogle

http://www.cigarking.com/xikar-vx-gun-metal-v-cutter/

http://www.atlanticcigar.com/Cigar-Cutters/Xikar-Xikar-VX-V-Cutter-Gunmetal.asp?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=comparsionshopping&aff=5112

http://www.elighters.com/xi155gm.html


Only 1 penny!! Not a Xikar though
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cart/view-upsell.html?ie=UTF8&storeID=miscellaneous&HUCT=1&newItems=UEFJMM52SN0E1%2C1

[sacsmitty]

That's an expensive cutter imo.

Yeah, it is and I tend to be a cheap bas***d but wow does it do a nice job cutting a cigar. :)

[T.G]

Yeah, it is and I tend to be a cheap bas***d but wow does it do a nice job cutting a cigar. :)

Then get a Wolf V-Cutter. It has the same blade, as in exactly the same from the same knifemaker, Wolfertz, as the Xikar XV, just comes in a plastic body. Costs about $15 to $20.

[sacsmitty]

Then get a Wolf V-Cutter. It has the same blade, as in exactly the same from the same knifemaker, Wolfertz, as the Xikar XV, just comes in a plastic body. Costs about $15 to $20.

Thanks for the tip, I have never seen or used a V cutter up until a few nights ago so I had no idea different versions exist.

[T.G]

BTW, I'm not aware of any other modern, pocketable V-cutters that use the backwards raked blade design like the Wolf & XV where the blade starts at the tip of the head and works inward. Every other one I've seen relies on the traditional "shove a point (usually dull) into the side of the cigar and rip at it in an outward direction".

So, if you want that razor cut, the XV and Wolf are, to the best of my knowledge, the only options.

I have a number of V-cutters; Donatus, Dunhill, some no-name $2 from CI plastic bodied ones, and a Wolf. The Wolf is the only one that makes a clean cut and doesn't crack or tear up the wrapper on the cigar. I don't use V-cutters often, but after just one use of the Wolf, I've never touched any of the others since. It was that good - the others don't even compare.

[irratebass]

Wolf V Cutters
http://www.seriouscigars.com/Xikar_Cigar-Cutters_4478_details

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=25130

http://www.thompsoncigar.com/product/WOLF-V-CUT-CUTTER-BLACK/74128.uts?cm_vc=10591&&TLCode=23654&cm_mmc=ShoppingEngines-_-Singlefeed-_-Nextag-_-23654

[icehog3]

Little sumpthin for the effort? :r

[T.G]

BTW, Smitty, when you get a chance, please drop in over in the New Inmates forum (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=7) and introduce yourself.

If "sac" = Sacramento, I think Mark @ Tower Pipe & Cigar might carry the Wolf cutters, I know he has the XV's and Xikar distributes the Wolf.

[CigarNut]

Wolf V CuttersSorry, but I cannot resist this: Wolf V Cigar Cutters (Click this link -- it's pretty cool). :noon

Thanks ToE!

[icehog3]

Sorry, but I cannot resist this: Wolf V Cigar Cutters (Click this link -- it's pretty cool). :noon

Thanks ToE!

'zactly. ;) :r

[ApexAZ]

I bought some Gurkha Regent Toro cigars and have had some issues with the wrapper cracking. I had one last night and the wrapper cracked about 1.5 inches up the length of the cigar when I punched it. I assume this means they might be a little dehydrated. My humidor seems to be holding around 68% RH and I'm wondering how long I should let these sit before they are properly rehydrated?

[T.G]

Certain Gurkha cigars are infamous for fragile, splitting and exploding wrappers.

Can't really say how long they will need to sit to stabilize without knowing how far off they are, or if this will even help those particular cigars.

[SteelCityBoy]

I bought some Gurkha Regent Toro cigars and have had some issues with the wrapper cracking. I had one last night and the wrapper cracked about 1.5 inches up the length of the cigar when I punched it. I assume this means they might be a little dehydrated. My humidor seems to be holding around 68% RH and I'm wondering how long I should let these sit before they are properly rehydrated?

I try my best to let my smokes rest for about a month before smoking them. Sometimes however I just can't resist! It really depends I guess on where the sticks are coming from. If you just pick them up from a local B&M they should be good to go. When they come from long airborn trips it is best to let them bask in some good relative humidity for a bit. Also could be that someone just handed you a dried out stick which in that case could take a bit longer to bring back to good life. :2

[ApexAZ]

I try my best to let my smokes rest for about a month before smoking them. Sometimes however I just can't resist! It really depends I guess on where the sticks are coming from. If you just pick them up from a local B&M they should be good to go. When they come from long airborn trips it is best to let them bask in some good relative humidity for a bit. Also could be that someone just handed you a dried out stick which in that case could take a bit longer to bring back to good life. :2

I purchased from CI, which were shipped ground from PA to AZ. They took about 7 days. My guess is that they got a little dry.

I do really enjoy the flavor, but the wrapper and draw have been a little challenging on a couple. Also, I just realized this thread is stickied in the accessory forum. My apologies if I posted in the wrong thread. I'm still getting used to the layout here :)

[md4958]

I purchased from CI, which were shipped ground from PA to AZ. They took about 7 days. My guess is that they got a little dry.

I do really enjoy the flavor, but the wrapper and draw have been a little challenging on a couple.

Given the arid climate you live in, I would probably give most cigar 3-4 weeks to acclimate.

You mentioned draw issues, were they tight, like they were plugged? Could you feel a hard spot under or around the band area?

[NCRadioMan]

Certain Gurkha cigars are infamous for fragile, splitting and exploding wrappers.



Adam's a smart feller. The Regents have Cameroon wrappers and they are very, very thin and fragile. If they get the slightest bit dry, they will fall apart. I would suggest keeping Cameroon wrapped cigars at 70%.

[ApexAZ]

Given the arid climate you live in, I would probably give most cigar 3-4 weeks to acclimate.

You mentioned draw issues, were they tight, like they were plugged? Could you feel a hard spot under or around the band area?

I am not sure. I considered that but truthfully I was a little afraid to squeeze it for fear of cracking it.

2 out of 4 have had some draw and cracking issues. I really enjoyed the ones that smoked well. Are many of the Gurkhas like this?

[irratebass]

Which is better for humidification, the gel or the boveda packs? I heard the gel you can use for years, just refill with dstilled water, and the packs are only good for a fw months, but I want your opinions.

[Bill86]

Which is better for humidification, the gel or the boveda packs? I heard the gel you can use for years, just refill with dstilled water, and the packs are only good for a fw months, but I want your opinions.

You can recharge the boveda packs. The gel is messy and IMHO ...crap.

[kydsid]

Which is better for humidification, the gel or the boveda packs? I heard the gel you can use for years, just refill with dstilled water, and the packs are only good for a fw months, but I want your opinions.

In my experience the boveda packs because they provide more consitent humidity levels in a humidor than gel. That is more important to me than lifespan. All things equal though I don't use either in my regular humidors. I do use boveda packs in the traveldor.

Beads (either type) are really the only answer to humidor humidifiaction IMO. Consistent humidity and long lasting. Don't bother with lesser options. ;)

[irratebass]

You can recharge the boveda packs. The gel is messy and IMHO ...crap.

In my experience the boveda packs because they provide more consitent humidity levels in a humidor than gel. That is more important to me than lifespan. All things equal though I don't use either in my regular humidors. I do use boveda packs in the traveldor.

Beads (either type) are really the only answer to humidor humidifiaction IMO. Consistent humidity and long lasting. Don't bother with lesser options. ;)

Right now $ is an issue and I can get both the gel and the packs for free, so based on your opinions I would go with the packs and I am looking at the 69%.....later when I get my coolidor I will get the beads, but right now I need a quick fix.

Any other opinons or suggestions?

Thanks

[irratebass]

Ok I am now confused, Which of these do you suggest, not saying I am getting them, I am just wanting some opinions:

http://www.neptunecigar.com/pr/xikar_crystal_humidifier_jar_4_oz.aspx

http://www.neptunecigar.com/pr/cigel_humidifier.aspx

[Mattso3000]

I've had the xikar jar in my 150 for 11 months and it's been locked on 68 on the hygrometer since I put it in.

[irratebass]

I've had the xikar jar in my 150 for 11 months and it's been locked on 68 on the hygrometer since I put it in.

Are these considered beads?

[kydsid]

Ok I am now confused, Which of these do you suggest, not saying I am getting them, I am just wanting some opinions:

http://www.neptunecigar.com/pr/xikar_crystal_humidifier_jar_4_oz.aspx

http://www.neptunecigar.com/pr/cigel_humidifier.aspx


I would go with the Ci-Gel as it says to add distilled water. The Xikar say used propylene glycol. The implication is the Ci-Gel itself is the regulator for humidity whereas the Xikar is just a matrix for PG similar to florist foam.

I would still use a boveda pack instead of either one.



Are these considered beads?


No. Xikar does not make beads. Beads are those from Shilalabeads or Heartfelt. Take the free option for now but save some money to get beads. They are really not that expensive. Around $30 a pound which is good for a large humidor. I run 2.5lbs, more than needed actually, in each of my edgestars.

[irratebass]

I would go with the Ci-Gel as it says to add distilled water. The Xikar say used propylene glycol. The implication is the Ci-Gel itself is the regulator for humidity whereas the Xikar is just a matrix for PG similar to florist foam.

I would still use a boveda pack instead of either one.






No. Xikar does not make beads. Beads are those from Shilalabeads or Heartfelt. Take the free option for now but save some money to get beads. They are really not that expensive. Around $30 a pound which is good for a large humidor. I run 2.5lbs, more than needed actually, in each of my edgestars.


Thanks Jason, I was thinkng the gel would be better....I had actually already placed my order, I ordered the 2 oz and the 4oz, but I just called them and changed the order to 2 gels (2 humis) and I will be getting the beads when I am ready...thanks for the info :tu

[CigarNut]

I thought you were going to go with Boveda Packs? I would go with the Boveda packs and stay away from (any kind) gel (Xikar or other brand).

[irratebass]

I thought you were going to go with Boveda Packs? I would go with the Boveda packs and stay away from (any kind) gel (Xikar or other brand).

Too late, I am going to try this out 1st, if it works cool if not then I will do the Boveda packs....I did order a calibration pack though.

[44stampede]

I would go with the Ci-Gel as it says to add distilled water. The Xikar say used propylene glycol. The implication is the Ci-Gel itself is the regulator for humidity whereas the Xikar is just a matrix for PG similar to florist foam.

I would still use a boveda pack instead of either one.






No. Xikar does not make beads. Beads are those from Shilalabeads or Heartfelt. Take the free option for now but save some money to get beads. They are really not that expensive. Around $30 a pound which is good for a large humidor. I run 2.5lbs, more than needed actually, in each of my edgestars.
What are the edgestars that you are referring to? Do people convert wine coolers to humidors?

[MurphysLaw]

What are the edgestars that you are referring to? Do people convert wine coolers to humidors?

Yup, check out this thread: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=48955

[44stampede]

Yup, check out this thread: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=48955
That's awesome. I had a feeling I hadn't thought of that idea first :)

Living in a place that is 30 Celcius and 73+% humidity all the time, this is a must!

[deaster25]

I just bought a tube of beads from heartfelt for my humidor. The way I had it set up before was with a generic tube of gel that I had separated from the cigars with a divider. My question is, can I remove the divider and let the tube come in direct contact with the cigars without any chance of harming the cigars. Also would the cigars closest to the tube be more humid than the ones on the other side? I have a 50 count and I bought the tube that is double the required minimum size.

[Zanaspus]

I just bought a tube of beads from heartfelt for my humidor. The way I had it set up before was with a generic tube of gel that I had separated from the cigars with a divider. My question is, can I remove the divider and let the tube come in direct contact with the cigars without any chance of harming the cigars. Also would the cigars closest to the tube be more humid than the ones on the other side? I have a 50 count and I bought the tube that is double the required minimum size.

I don't know the scientific answer, but I have no divider, the cigars taste fine, and I'm not dead yet.:2

[Eros]

So I just got a humidor yesterday. I salt tested a digital hygrometer and calibrated it accordingly. Then I placed a shot glass with water in the humidor and closed the lid with the hygrometer inside. The humidity rose to 87%. I took out the glass, placed in some hydrating beads and the humidity has stayed at 68%. Did I get lucky? Most people say it takes at least a few days to season. Should I wait a little longer? I just bought some cigars and they were on the road for 5 days and have been in their bag for an additional two. I would like to get them in as quickly as I can.

[Blak Smyth]

So I just got a humidor yesterday. I salt tested a digital hygrometer and calibrated it accordingly. Then I placed a shot glass with water in the humidor and closed the lid with the hygrometer inside. The humidity rose to 87%. I took out the glass, placed in some hydrating beads and the humidity has stayed at 68%. Did I get lucky? Most people say it takes at least a few days to season. Should I wait a little longer? I just bought some cigars and they were on the road for 5 days and have been in their bag for an additional two. I would like to get them in as quickly as I can.

How long has it stayed at 68%?

[Eros]

Since 5 this morning.

[Blak Smyth]

If it was me, I would wait until tomorrow morning and see if it changes. If you throw cigars in now and the humidity changes you will not know the reason. Tomorrow if it is still holding true throw them in and see what happens IMHO.

[pnoon]

If you put cigars in an empty humidor the RH will almost surely change. Unless by a stroke of luck the cigars and the empty humi have identical RH.

More often than not, RH in the humi will drop due to the cigars absorbing moisture.
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[crazyirishman]

As usual, pnoon has the answer.

[Eros]

So waiting for another day or more should help? I'm just worried about my cigars drying out in the bag. Cigars are quite the investment for me.

[CigarNut]

It can't hurt to wait an extra day or two and it can certainly help. This is not something you want to rush...

[Eros]

Also does anyone have any recommendations in regards to a machine that can clear up cigar odors pretty well? I am getting an apartment this summer and I don't have anywhere to smoke outside.

[bobarian]

Cigars can be stored for an extended period in a ziploc bag. I have some sitting on my desk that have been there for a month. If you are really worried, put them in a second bag. :2

[coty]

Eros
http://compare.ebay.com/like/270778500335?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y
maybe a good start

[Eros]

Thanks for that recommendation coty. Also, the humidity had dropped to 63 rh after adding a couple of cigars. I have a drymistat tube of crystal gel or whatever it is. Should I add that, or is that not advisable?
Side note: I have the 65% rh beads in there as my humidifier.

[pnoon]

The beads are all you should need.
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[Eros]

So how low is too low as far as rh goes? I mean I don't think 62 is too much lower than 65 in regards to negatively impacting the cigars, but when should I worry? When its down in the mid 50's? Lastly, when I start adding more cigars, and the humidity keeps dropping, should I just re-season the humidor? Sorry for all the questions, I am a newbie after all.

[icehog3]

I keep my cigars at 62% and they smoke perfectly.

I have heard of some who keep theirs in the high 50s, but I am not experiementing because I've found the RH I like.

I would personally be worried if mine dropped below 60 for a significant amount of time.

[CigarNut]

So how low is too low as far as rh goes? I mean I don't think 62 is too much lower than 65 in regards to negatively impacting the cigars, but when should I worry? When its down in the mid 50's? Lastly, when I start adding more cigars, and the humidity keeps dropping, should I just re-season the humidor? Sorry for all the questions, I am a newbie after all.If the RH does not stababilze and continues to drop this may be an indicator that you rushed the seasoning process. Or it could mean that your humidor is not sealing well.

There are lots of threads here that will help you, but the key thing is that you need to be patient. It will not hurt your cigars if they are exposed to a "too-low" or "too-high" RH for a short time. It takes time for your cigars to equalize so don't worry. Also, ziplock bags are your friend! You can always safely put your cigars in a ziplock for extended periods of time while you resolve any issues you might have with your humidor.

[Eros]

The cigars I just purchased we already in a ziplock bag when they arrived. So if I leave them in there for another week on top of the week it took for them to arrive, they won't be completely ruined?

[CigarNut]

They will be fine.

[Eros]

Ok good. I am going to re season my humidor properly. Now I've heard varying opinions on this. Some say never to add any water directly to the wood and just let a shot glass of distilled water or a damp sponge sit in there on a baggie for a day or more. Others says apply water to the wood lightly and repeat every half hour until the wood is saturated. What has worked best for you guys?

[Blak Smyth]

Ok good. I am going to re season my humidor properly. Now I've heard varying opinions on this. Some say never to add any water directly to the wood and just let a shot glass of distilled water or a damp sponge sit in there on a baggie for a day or more. Others says apply water to the wood lightly and repeat every half hour until the wood is saturated. What has worked best for you guys?

There really isnt a wrong way to do it. Don't be affraid to experiment. I remember not long ago I was asking all these same questions. You receive a few different answers but basicaly it all comes down to what works for you. I wipe the inside of the wood with distilled water and put a small dish with distilled water on the inside. Make sure it is distilled!

[MurphysLaw]

Ok good. I am going to re season my humidor properly. Now I've heard varying opinions on this. Some say never to add any water directly to the wood and just let a shot glass of distilled water or a damp sponge sit in there on a baggie for a day or more. Others says apply water to the wood lightly and repeat every half hour until the wood is saturated. What has worked best for you guys?

I've followed the instructions in this thread and always had good results. Sticky: Properly Seasoning a New Humidor (http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=620)

[Eros]

So I went with the wipe down method and the sponge retained most of the moisture on the third wipe down which should mean the humidor isn't absorbing as much moisture. Now I'm supposed to wait 24 hours. Should I place the beads in now, or after I wait?

[mase]

Someone told me that he stores his cigars in the vegetable drawer of the refrigerator. To the best of my knowledge he is not using any humidification device. Can anyone help me understand why he might do this?

I understand the cold would keep any beetle eggs from hatching. I doubt the drawer would keep consistent humidity.

[CigarNut]

It probably does keep a fairly constant humidity, but in all likelihood it is a lower humidity than would be desirable for cigars...

[galaga]

Someone told me that he stores his cigars in the vegetable drawer of the refrigerator. To the best of my knowledge he is not using any humidification device. Can anyone help me understand why he might do this?

I understand the cold would keep any beetle eggs from hatching. I doubt the drawer would keep consistent humidity.

Because he doesn't know how to store cigars??? If you try it, I would use a cigar I wouldn't mind dehydrating. I suspect the cigar would dry out rather quickly.