4GB of RAM is awesome....

[Darrell]

My MacBook came with 1GB of RAM. Today I spent $59.99 and got 4GB of Kingston RAM. I'm BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZIN NOW!!!

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3745/picture1ce2.png

[yellowgoat]

That cheap. Where did you get your ram from? Is Mac ram different from pc RAM? I want a mac! They look so cool.

[Cyanide]

My new laptop for christmas has 4 GB in it. My old one had 500mg. It does seem that RAM does an amazing job. Its nearly 5+ times faster, even though the processor is less than twice as fast. But, then mine is PC. I thought MACs were already supposed to be perfect....so how could you get faster than perfect?

Cheers to you on your RAM

[Darrell]

That cheap. Where did you get your ram from? Is Mac ram different from pc RAM? I want a mac! They look so cool.

I got it from Fry's.

I am not sure if the RAM is different on PC Laptops, I've never looked into it.

[doctorcue]

http://www.lolgangsta.com/gangstas/gangsta_bob.jpg

[VirtualSmitty]

That cheap. Where did you get your ram from? Is Mac ram different from pc RAM? I want a mac! They look so cool.

Ram is dirt cheap, I updated my imac with this (except I paid 44 bucks when it was on sale :))

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227251

Mac ram isn't special. The imacs use the same stuff the laptops use, otherwise nothing special.

[Silound]

Not a mac expert by all means, however I think Mac's use the same RAM as PCs, now that they use the x86 architecture. Don't quote me on that, I could be very wrong.

[yellowgoat]

Ram is dirt cheap, I updated my imac with this (except I paid 44 bucks when it was on sale :))

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227251

Mac ram isn't special. The imacs use the same stuff the laptops use, otherwise nothing special.

Thanks man! I guess I'll be updating my ram soon too! :ss

[RGD.]

http://www.dgdesigns.com/humidor/capics/8gig.jpg



:ss



Ron

[BORIStheBLADE]

My MacBook came with 1GB of RAM. Today I spent $59.99 and got 4GB of Kingston RAM. I'm BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZIN NOW!!!

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3745/picture1ce2.png

Did you look on the side of your old ram? See if it has a Mhz rating. Your new one is 667mhz, if the old one is less that is another reason why your new stuff is faster.

[Darrell]

Did you look on the side of your old ram? See if it has a Mhz rating. Your new one is 667mhz, if the old one is less that is another reason why your new stuff is faster.

The old RAM does not have the MHZ on it. Which is weird.

[Seanohue]

It sure is :)

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4943/picmk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Darrell]

It sure is :)

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4943/picmk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.dgdesigns.com/humidor/capics/8gig.jpg

Those are PC's though, they need 7 GB just to boot. :ss

[Ace$nyper]

Happy to hear you are enjoying it :)

I need to unlazy now and throw in my extra ram.

[Seanohue]

Those are PC's though, they need 7 GB just to boot. :ss

Nah, just 1GB. Mine runs rock solid though, even OCed to 3.5GHz. I dare say I like Vista (64) :D This is memory I'm running http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

[DrDubzz]

I've got 2, all I need for now

the next machine... I think I'll put something ridiculous like 16 in it, just so I can tell Darrell to blow it out his ass

[Darrell]

I've got 2, all I need for now

the next machine... I think I'll put something ridiculous like 16 in it, just so I can tell Darrell to blow it out his ass

That hurts Tim, I thought we were tight. :sad

[DrDubzz]

That hurts Tim, I thought we were tight. :sad

sorry bro, I was just trying to "out stunt you"

[MithShrike]

Macs are designed to take advantage of RAM very well. AnandTech did a report on OS X caching a few years back. Granted that was while they were still using the IBM PowerPC architecture but I doubt that much has changed for memory management with the move to x86.

[Darrell]

I wish it would make PS load faster. It does a little faster, LOL. :r

[Silound]

Not to knock anyone, but why put more than 4 Gb in a PC running Windows XP or Vista 32-bit as the primary OS?

32-bit versions of Windows can only effectively use up to 3120Mb (roughly 3 gigs) due to software limitations (claimed to allow compatibility on older machines), and can be forced into using a full 4Gb via registry changes. Otherwise, the 4th gig is essentially only used by hardware such as shared video memory tasks.


Much love to 64-bit OS's for opening that up, but even then Vista was proven to actually SLOW DOWN with more than 16 GB of RAM (inefficient memory use) until Service Pack 1 came out and ended that problem.

[webjunkie]

Not a mac expert by all means, however I think Mac's use the same RAM as PCs, now that they use the x86 architecture. Don't quote me on that, I could be very wrong.

As far as I know, PCs and Macs have always used the same kinds of RAM.

I'm only rocking 1GB and I don't think I'll outgrow it for a while yet. Though it would be nice to at least double it.

[karmaz00]

i got 2 but i have 2 more slots. im thinking i will upgard this soon

[Ashcan Bill]

I guess this means my 384 meg pretty much blows. :r

[mosesbotbol]

My AMD dual 64 bit came with 4 GB RAM and to upgrade ti to 8 GB is $600... So much for cheap RAM. I hope by summer it comes down a lot.

On 64 bit, it seems like it uses twice the RAM of x86...

[The Professor]

As far as I know, PCs and Macs have always used the same kinds of RAM.

I'm only rocking 1GB and I don't think I'll outgrow it for a while yet. Though it would be nice to at least double it.
yup ... and it's been easily user-replaceable since the days of the G3, if not earlier. Hard drives are the same too (and easily replaceable on the MacBook). :D

sporting 1.5GB in my PowerBook G4. I can't wait until I get a new job and with it a new computer. :dance:

[King James]

sweet! I have 2GB in my macbook. This thing is like 4 years old, even before the core 2 duo days, but still trucks for what I need it for. Maybe next year I will get a new macbook, but if this thing is still haulin' good.... I don't think there will be a need.

[AD720]

My MacBook came with 1GB of RAM. Today I spent $59.99 and got 4GB of Kingston RAM. I'm BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZIN NOW!!!



:tpd:

I just got a new macbook (NOT the unibody, the polycarbonite) and it came with 2gigs of RAM and 120gb HD.

I upgraded it to 4gigs of RAM and a 320gb HD.

Cost to have apple to do the upgrade - $400

Cost for me to do the upgrade - $120 :ze


PS - if anyone wants the old RAM shoot me a PM.

[RGD.]

My AMD dual 64 bit came with 4 GB RAM and to upgrade ti to 8 GB is $600...

Huh? From where? No way it can cost that much unless they are charging like $550.00 to install it. Curious now.


Ron

[Seanohue]

My AMD dual 64 bit came with 4 GB RAM and to upgrade ti to 8 GB is $600... So much for cheap RAM. I hope by summer it comes down a lot.

On 64 bit, it seems like it uses twice the RAM of x86...

That's insane! How long ago was it and who did you get it from? If it is not too late, I would return it. For that much you can get 48GB of RAM lol.

[King James]

Also, what are you doing that requires 8GB of ram?

[Seanohue]

Also, what are you doing that requires 8GB of ram?

Warhammer Online. Most CPU intensive game ever.

[Blueface]

My MacBook says it has 1 GB but supports up to 4.
Will I see that much of a difference that makes it worthwhile?
Is it hard to do?

Here is what I have. Any help is appreciated.

[Darrell]

My MacBook says it has 1 GB but supports up to 4.
Will I see that much of a difference that makes it worthwhile?
Is it hard to do?

Here is what I have. Any help is appreciated.

Yes, you will see a huge difference. Specifically in booting OSX and multi tasking. It's easy as cake to do Carlos. Here is a tutorial I looked at just to make sure I did not **** anything up.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1651

:tu

[King James]

My MacBook says it has 1 GB but supports up to 4.
Will I see that much of a difference that makes it worthwhile?
Is it hard to do?

Here is what I have. Any help is appreciated.

I'd say 2GB is probably enough Carlos, if you just use it for day to day tasks and searching the net. 4GB maybe, but two would probably be fine. It is fairly easy to do, but knowing your track record with Macs..... lol

DO NOT buy from apple though.

crucial ram is the best deal I have found.... anyone else can chime in if a current one beats crucial's price.

[Blueface]

Yes, you will see a huge difference. Specifically in booting OSX and multi tasking. It's easy as cake to do Carlos. Here is a tutorial I looked at just to make sure I did not **** anything up.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1651

:tu

I'd say 2GB is probably enough Carlos, if you just use it for day to day tasks and searching the net. 4GB maybe, but two would probably be fine. It is fairly easy to do, but knowing your track record with Macs..... lol

DO NOT buy from apple though.

crucial ram is the best deal I have found.... anyone else can chime in if a current one beats crucial's price.

I have got to put this on hold for this month but plan on tackling it next month and will reach out to you guys.

And yes Jim, with my record, this can end up making for quite a TV sit com.:r

Did I mention I am officially on my second iPhone?:rolleyes:

[VirtualSmitty]

That's insane! How long ago was it and who did you get it from? If it is not too late, I would return it. For that much you can get 48GB of RAM lol.

:tpd: That is waaaay too much for that much RAM.

[Darrell]

Also, what are you doing that requires 8GB of ram?

Running Vista and a Web Browser at the same time. :r

[King James]

Running Vista and a Web Browser at the same time. :r

:r :tu

[Seanohue]

Running Vista and a Web Browser at the same time. :r

:r :tu

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/818/1222791400771uy0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[BORIStheBLADE]

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/818/1222791400771uy0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:r:r

[doctorcue]

Yeah right... run Crysis or COD on a $1299 PC and it will stutter more than Mean D with 2/3 bottle of Zaya in him.

:D

[webjunkie]

Actually my main complaint about my macbook is that it uses integrated video instead of a dedicated GPU. I don't play many games so it's not usually an issue, but it still bugs me from time to time.

Edit: I would also like to see the fps for the dell.

[Silound]

Actually my main complaint about my macbook is that it uses integrated video instead of a dedicated GPU. I don't play many games so it's not usually an issue, but it still bugs me from time to time.

Edit: I would also like to see the fps for the dell.

FPS will be heavily dependant on what kind of video card is in the Dell. An amazing machine with a low end GPU will still suck for games.



I can build a computer for under $1800 that will do anything a $3000 Dell will do just as well. I've never met a game yet that my computer can't handle at full settings, and I can re-code video, browse the web, download torrents, and still play two copies of World of Warcraft without stuttering. Quad core, 4 gigs of RAM, and SLI based video are enough to do just about everything you can ask.


Always get someone who knows WTF to build you a computer if you can, it's far more cost efficient.

[Seanohue]

Yeah right... run Crysis or COD on a $1299 PC and it will stutter more than Mean D with 2/3 bottle of Zaya in him.

:D

Just benched, for you ;)

1920x1200 0xAA Enthusiast settings: 25.08FPS

Not bad, for a rig under $1K.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4601/invoicexn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Actually my main complaint about my macbook is that it uses integrated video instead of a dedicated GPU. I don't play many games so it's not usually an issue, but it still bugs me from time to time.

Edit: I would also like to see the fps for the dell.

The Dell is there just to represent PC; it by no means represents my "liking" for Dell.

[webjunkie]

FPS will be heavily dependant on what kind of video card is in the Dell. An amazing machine with a low end GPU will still suck for games.



I can build a computer for under $1800 that will do anything a $3000 Dell will do just as well. I've never met a game yet that my computer can't handle at full settings, and I can re-code video, browse the web, download torrents, and still play two copies of World of Warcraft without stuttering. Quad core, 4 gigs of RAM, and SLI based video are enough to do just about everything you can ask.


Always get someone who knows WTF to build you a computer if you can, it's far more cost efficient.

Of course a custom rig will always be cheaper than a pre-assembled computer. Then again, people who buy a mac or a dell aren't necessarily going to want to do that.

Of course, the mac will also be dependent on what GPU the user was willing to shell out for. On the downside, once you've got it you can't really upgrade it without buying a new one.

[SmoknTaz]

Those are PC's though, they need 7 GB just to boot. :ss:r :r :r

I'll take the 8 over my 2 anyday.

[AD720]

I'd say 2GB is probably enough Carlos, if you just use it for day to day tasks and searching the net. 4GB maybe, but two would probably be fine. It is fairly easy to do, but knowing your track record with Macs..... lol

DO NOT buy from apple though.

crucial ram is the best deal I have found.... anyone else can chime in if a current one beats crucial's price.

I got mine from OWC. But I bought there b/c there was the best deal on the hard drive was I looking at. I think crucial might have been a couple bucks under.

[AD720]

Actually my main complaint about my macbook is that it uses integrated video instead of a dedicated GPU. I don't play many games so it's not usually an issue, but it still bugs me from time to time.

Edit: I would also like to see the fps for the dell.

Not the new ones. SOOO glad I waited! :dance:

[Blueface]

I did a simple test based on my activity monitor that I read about and it seems that over two thirds of the circle is yellow and red and I notice it is tough to run some applications with others.
So....I am ready to upgrade.

I checked out various places like Crucial, NewEgg, etc.
Seems around $59 gets me 4 GB.
Question I have is does it make a difference what brand the memory is?

[AD720]

Question I have is does it make a difference what brand the memory is?

There are definitely differences in quality and compatibility.

Crucial is a good bet as they offer guaranteed compatibility and a life time warranty.

Getting a matched pair also has it's benefits.

[Tenor CS]

I only have 512. But I run linux :)

[VirtualSmitty]

I did a simple test based on my activity monitor that I read about and it seems that over two thirds of the circle is yellow and red and I notice it is tough to run some applications with others.
So....I am ready to upgrade.

I checked out various places like Crucial, NewEgg, etc.
Seems around $59 gets me 4 GB.
Question I have is does it make a difference what brand the memory is?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231135

;)

[SeanGAR]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231135

;)

+1

I usually buy Muskin or GSkill.

[rizzle]

Man. Y'all really are some computer nerds aren't ya?
:r:r

[jkim05]

Not to knock anyone, but why put more than 4 Gb in a PC running Windows XP or Vista 32-bit as the primary OS?

32-bit versions of Windows can only effectively use up to 3120Mb (roughly 3 gigs) due to software limitations (claimed to allow compatibility on older machines), and can be forced into using a full 4Gb via registry changes. Otherwise, the 4th gig is essentially only used by hardware such as shared video memory tasks.


Much love to 64-bit OS's for opening that up, but even then Vista was proven to actually SLOW DOWN with more than 16 GB of RAM (inefficient memory use) until Service Pack 1 came out and ended that problem.

Just wanted to bump this post. Important thing to remember, unless you're running a 64-bit OS, there's no point in putting more than even 3 GB in a computer, the OS barely recognizes part of the 4th GB and it doesn't give any noticeable benefit.

That's why my next CPU is gonna run a 64-bit OS.:D

[Blueface]

Just wanted to bump this post. Important thing to remember, unless you're running a 64-bit OS, there's no point in putting more than even 3 GB in a computer, the OS barely recognizes part of the 4th GB and it doesn't give any noticeable benefit.

That's why my next CPU is gonna run a 64-bit OS.:D

Does that apply to my MacBook also or just PC?

[VirtualSmitty]

Does that apply to my MacBook also or just PC?

Depends Carlos. Current macbooks run 4 gigs no problem, but the pre santa rosa chipset macs will only recognize 3.3 gigs.

[Blueface]

Depends Carlos. Current macbooks run 4 gigs no problem, but the pre santa rosa chipset macs will only recognize 3.3 gigs.

Mine is a year old.
I have the 2.2 Ghz Intel core 2 Duo Processor
Has 1 GB (2 x 512MB SO-DIMMs) of DDR2 SDRAM.

[VirtualSmitty]

Mine is a year old.
I have the 2.2 Ghz Intel core 2 Duo Processor
Has 1 GB (2 x 512MB SO-DIMMs) of DDR2 SDRAM.

Your good then. Apple upgraded the macbooks summer of 07.

[TheManWithNoName]

I have to vouch for the Vista...
I have a 4GB Gateway laptop running the 64-bit Vista, I usually just hibernate it and it starts up in 15 seconds or so, and runs multiple pages very quickly and easily. But I don't use it for games so it's untested there.

Plus, I got it for a good deal because the Circuit City salesguy tried to bait n' switch me and rip me off $200. Had to talk to three managers but walked out with it for a decent price. They went out of business didn't they? That's karma or something. :ss

[Blueface]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231135

;)

Joe,
I guess now I know why prices are cheap there.
No support.
No service.
Had to chat with someone online and they couldn't offer any help to answer questions.

Contacted G-skill directly.
This is what they recommended as has been tested for Mac.
Thought I would share if any other Mac users are interested.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231160

Here is the G-skill tech's response relative to the 2 GB v. 4 GB:
And the memory upgrading from 2 to 4GB may not be obvious.

The 2 GB is $29.
The 4 GB is $49.
Wonder if I should go with the 2 or spend an extra $20 and be maxed out and not have to ever worry about it again.
I think I will go with the 4. Need to supplement all things bigger.

[Blueface]

I take that back.
After reading all the reviews on both and after receiving the feedback here and from G-Skill, I have decided why pay more for something I don't need and by the time I do need it, if I do need it at all, it will be dirt cheaper than it is today.
So, I went with the 2 GB which doubles what I have now and it seems everyone was for the most part satisfied with the success of the installation.
On the 4 GB, it seems there were more issues prevalent.
Rather not deal with that nonsense, specially given my Apple history.
For $32 bucks after tax, how can you go wrong?

[VirtualSmitty]

Joe,
I guess now I know why prices are cheap there.
No support.
No service.
Had to chat with someone online and they couldn't offer any help to answer questions.

Contacted G-skill directly.
This is what they recommended as has been tested for Mac.
Thought I would share if any other Mac users are interested.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231160



That's bunk, macs don't use special ram. I've installed both types of ram I linked to in this thread in macs i've upgraded for myself/family/friends. That's just a gimmick to make you spend more.

I would have probably gone and done the 4 gigs myself honestly. It's cheap and simple, but then i've always been of the opinion that there's no such thing as too much ram.

[Blueface]

That's bunk, macs don't use special ram. I've installed both types of ram I linked to in this thread in macs i've upgraded for myself/family/friends. That's just a gimmick to make you spend more.

I would have probably gone and done the 4 gigs myself honestly. It's cheap and simple, but then i've always been of the opinion that there's no such thing as too much ram.

It is my first time doing it and won't probably need the 4 for some time.
I figured for $32, heck, I spend more than that for two martinis in Boca.
If I ever start running stuff that can use more ram, the upgrade to 4 will either cost a buck or I won't be using this laptop anymore and will have a fancy MacPro with virtual holographic controls and 100 ram standard. :r

BTW, the price was the same between the Mac one and the one that was not Mac tested.

[VirtualSmitty]

It is my first time doing it and won't probably need the 4 for some time.
I figured for $32, heck, I spend more than that for two martinis in Boca.
If I ever start running stuff that can use more ram, the upgrade to 4 will either cost a buck or I won't be using this laptop anymore and will have a fancy MacPro with virtual holographic controls and 100 ram standard. :r

BTW, the price was the same between the Mac one and the one that was not Mac tested.

The one you linked to was eight whole dollars more than the one I linked! EIGHT DOLLARS Carlos. Think of all the things you can do with eight dollars. The possibilities are endless.

[tenbaseg]

I just doubled my ram on my macbook for $30. This thing is hauling some serious a$$ now.

[rizzle]

So I wanted to be able to contribute, if nothing else, a laugh. I don't know how to do the screen shots like you guys but I have ...480mb of RAM.

So take that. 480 is waaaaaay more than 4.
:s

[Tenor CS]

So I wanted to be able to contribute, if nothing else, a laugh. I don't know how to do the screen shots like you guys but I have ...480mb of RAM.

So take that. 480 is waaaaaay more than 4.
:s

What you actually have is 512, 32 of which is sucked up by video memory. Depending on what you're running, that might be enough.

[Darrell]

So I wanted to be able to contribute, if nothing else, a laugh. I don't know how to do the screen shots like you guys but I have ...480mb of RAM.

So take that. 480 is waaaaaay more than 4.
:s

What's your processor speed? 486? :r

[rizzle]

Hell if I know...
It's a Pentium 4, 2.66 ghz. I'm old skool brother.
:dance:

[King James]

so you probably have one 512mb stick in there.....that is old school

they still make less than a 512 stick?

[AD720]

Hell if I know...
It's a Pentium 4, 2.66 ghz. I'm old skool brother.
:dance:


A P4 machine would really benefit from a bump up to 1 gig or more. Honestly it will probably cost you less than $15 and it is easiest computer hardware upgrade to accomplish.

[rizzle]

A P4 machine would really benefit from a bump up to 1 gig or more. Honestly it will probably cost you less than $15 and it is easiest computer hardware upgrade to accomplish.
Tell me more. Please.

[AD720]

Tell me more. Please.

Tell me more, what brand/model.

[Blueface]

Well, my new RAM should be here today or tomorrow.
Can't wait.

[rizzle]

Tell me more, what brand/model.

PM sent. Thanks bro.
:tu

[Blueface]

Well, my new RAM is here.
Nice package with Apple's symbol on the outside.
I swear it looks like something you buy from Apple directly.
Says "Apple Series DDR2 Modules" on the box.
Can't wait to install it later tonight and hopefully not trash my laptop while at it.
Those who follow the Blueface/Carlos saga with his MacBook, stay tuned. This should be a nail biting season ending episode.:r:r:r

[Blueface]

Well, that was quite quick and extremely easy, even for a dummy like me.

I do notice significant difference.
Boy my mighty mouse now moves fast.:r:r:r Just kidding.

[Blueface]

I went from the Activity Monitor showing less than 1/4 of memory as free space to now having nearly 3/4 of it as free space.
Amazing.

[Darrell]

Congrats on not breaking it, Carlos. :r

[Blueface]

Congrats on not breaking it, Carlos. :r

Here is the proof.:r

[rizzle]

So I wanted to be able to contribute, if nothing else, a laugh. I don't know how to do the screen shots like you guys but I have ...480mb of RAM.

So take that. 480 is waaaaaay more than 4.
:s

A P4 machine would really benefit from a bump up to 1 gig or more. Honestly it will probably cost you less than $15 and it is easiest computer hardware upgrade to accomplish.

Tell me more. Please.

Tell me more, what brand/model.
So I just want to point a good deed done by and extend a public thank you to Andrew, AD720. I shot Andrew a PM with my computer info and he sent me back a direct link to purchase the memory I needed to upgrade my machine and a link with a step by step tutorial on how to do it. He also gave me his phone number in case I ran into problems and needed to call him while changing it out. So last night I got everything done and what a difference. Now my 5 year old machine is only about 4 years old.;)

Now Andrew doesn't know me from Adam's housecat, but took the time to help me out. I appreciate that. A lot. It's brothers like this that make this a great place to hangout. So again Andrew, "Thank you".
:tu

[Blueface]

Now Andrew doesn't know me from Adam's housecat

Given he was resourceful enough to find all that information for you, I bet he would see the fur on the cat a mile away and tell the difference.:r:r:r

Couldn't resist.

Kidding aside, that is in fact so cool to have the resources we do when we are part of a family like we are here.
There is a wealth of knowledge to be tapped and so many are so willing to share what they know.

[The Professor]

Given he was resourceful enough to find all that information for you, I bet he would see the fur on the cat a mile away and tell the difference.:r:r:r

Couldn't resist.

Kidding aside, that is in fact so cool to have the resources we do when we are part of a family like we are here.
There is a wealth of knowledge to be tapped and so many are so willing to share what they know.
What you don't know is that rizzle is actually a cat. :dance:

(I could make various 'Bama jokes that would involve alternative names for cats; but I'll refrain ... especially given the pathetic record of my new employer ... and my current employer, for that matter.)

[rizzle]

What you don't know is that rizzle is actually a cat. :dance:
Yes, a cat indeed. Cheshire to be exact.
:fu

(I could make various 'Bama jokes that would involve alternative names for cats; but I'll refrain ... especially given the pathetic record of my new employer ... and my current employer, for that matter.)
Thanks.;) Although I like a good joke as well as the next guy. And we are 2-0 versus the Mean Green. :D

[The Professor]

Yes, a cat indeed. Cheshire to be exact.
:fu


Thanks.;) Although I like a good joke as well as the next guy. And we are 2-0 versus the Mean Green. :D
I'll be the first to admit, my new team has some "rebuilding" to do. A good first step might be to fire the high school coach (I'm not even joking) that they hired and get a REAL coach worthy of a college team with a rich history (Mean Joe Green, anyone?).

So to you I say, "touché!"

[AD720]

So again Andrew, "Thank you".
:tu

Again, my pleasure. I'm glad I could help you get your computer running a little faster. You did all the hard work!
:)