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Old 02-08-2009, 01:48 PM   #61
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

It occurs in CC and NC alike, have a look at the pic of the padrons in the first post of this thread
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:12 PM   #62
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

I have seen more beetles in Padron's (1926 and 1964 boxes too be specific) than any other cigar brand.
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Old 03-05-2009, 08:23 PM   #63
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

got a special box that arrived today heading to the freezer with a stop in the fridge. Great post, thanks!!!!
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Old 03-19-2009, 03:48 PM   #64
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

So does one have to wrap in plastic before putting boxes in the reefer or can one just put the boxes in by themselves? Also, now that I found a few with holes do I just wipe out my vino with distilled H2O or something else?
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Old 03-19-2009, 04:05 PM   #65
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

Yes, seal the box's before you freeze.. About the vino, I heard to wipe the inside of humidors with Cognac, kills the larvae and won't hurt your cigars.. Just let it air out before stocking it back up...
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Old 04-27-2009, 05:40 PM   #66
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

Seems to be a bunch of beetles popping up so I thought I would bump this back up

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Old 04-27-2009, 06:19 PM   #67
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

Let's get this thread stickied!!!!

Awesome thread Fox.
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Old 04-28-2009, 03:58 PM   #68
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

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Here you go, so you don't have to go convert on another site:
-20C = -4F
-15C = 5F
-10C = 14F
-5C = 23F
0C = 32F
+5F = 41F
+10C = 50F


Great writeup SilverFox. Thanks. I think I might start freezing my sticks.
In case this one gets stickied, here is the Fahrenheit conversion of the white paper on cigarette beetle mortality I posted in another thread on this topic.

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Keep in mind that most home freezers at their lowest setting only go down to about 17 degrees F. As long as the larval stage has not been acclimated to 60 degrees for several months before freezing occurs, 4 days in a home freezer should result in 100% mortality.

Cigarette Beetle Mortality White Paper Chart

Stage/Temperature (F)/100% Mortalitiy (hours)
Egg............-4...................1
..................5...................4
..................14.................12
..................23.................48
..................32................240
..................41................336

Larval .........-4.................1
..................5..................3
.................14.................12
.................23.................96
.................32.................288
.................41.................336

Acclimated larval (59 degrees for 1-3 months)
.................-4.................1
..................5..................6
.................14.................24
.................23.................504
.................32.................1176
.................41.................1680

Pupal.........-4..................1
.................5...................2
.................14.................4
.................23.................48
.................32.................288
.................41.................840

Adult..........-4.................1
.................5...................2
.................14.................2
.................23.................72
.................32.................288
.................41.................840
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:40 PM   #69
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Let's get this thread stickied!!!!

Awesome thread Fox.
I agree....it's great info
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

Drat's last post looks similar to the Cigar Magazine 2008 Summer issue. In my mind it quotes the formost indepth study done on beetles. There are some differences .. Use the acclimated larval chart to be safe. Japan Tobacco's study shows a freezer at 32 degrees takes nearly 2 months to kill 100% of the beetles (all stages) They brought in infected bales and put them in freezers at various temps. Then got the old microscope out... it also agrees with Drats 100% kill at -4 F

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Old 04-28-2009, 11:16 PM   #71
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Here is the actual Table from the WhitePaper.

The times for mortality are in hours.

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Old 04-28-2009, 11:46 PM   #72
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

Got the first batch in the fridge and in 12 hours they go to the deep freeze for a nice long nap.
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

Thanks for making this a sticky!

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So freezing in tubes or take them out first?
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

Might have been posted but here's a little tidbit of info...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxmXH...layer_embedded
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

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Might have been posted but here's a little tidbit of info...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxmXH...layer_embedded
good post, ive never seen that video before
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So freezing in tubes or take them out first?
Boxes, Tubes, Coffins, Cabs I leave em in what they came in. I have frozen everything from Glass and Aluminum Tubes to Coffins and Cabs.
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thanks SilverFox!
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Default Re: How to Freeze and the Science behind it. Long

Thanks SilverFox for the post. To often you can say I had no idea but it pays to read and pay attention. It is better to freeze then to burn!!!
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I gotta do this from now on no matter what!!!
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