How do I set up a Vinotemp?

06-04-2010, 11:07 AM

I've been pondering how to build a cabinet humidor out of wood, but I gave up since its just too much stuff I don't have, so I found a scratch n dent place that had 58 bottle Vinotemps for $150 with 3 month warranty and I'm gonna get that.

What do I do after that?

TXRebel · 06-04-2010, 12:16 PM

If I’m not mistaken, the 58 bottle is not thermo electric, it is a compressor unit. Your RH will drop when the compressor runs.

wolfandwhisky · 06-04-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TXRebel

If I’m not mistaken, the 58 bottle is not thermo electric, it is a compressor unit. Your RH will drop when the compressor runs.

That isn't really a big deal though.

Here's what you do - find some way to plug the hole that drains the condensed water. Depending upon your humidification system, I recommend actually somehow draining that condensed water back into your humidification (i.e. beads, but don't drain the water back if you use shilala beads).

Then, contact chasiden. Determine how you want it organized - maybe a couple of shelves for boxes, and a couple of drawers for singles and 5rs.

On the drawers, get solid bottoms with glass tops.

Call it a day.

MichaelJ · 06-04-2010, 01:02 PM

The RH drops when my thermoelectric Edgestar 28 turns on, then cycle back up after a little while. 2lb of Shilala beads in there with the drain plugged. I don't really see the advantage of a thermoelectric?

captain53 · 06-04-2010, 01:13 PM

ChasDen Shelves/Drawers & Shilala Beads both found right here in the NutHouse! Be Patient and then Enjoy.

As to the thermo vs compressor - I have thermo and have heard all the stories both ways so I will hope to see some reports from you on the performance after it is all set up and settled in which takes at least a month if not more. I would certainly love to have a much larger unit but 28 bottle was the biggest thermo cooled model made by anyone so that is what I have. If you produce good results I will be up-sizing very soon.

06-04-2010, 01:32 PM

That is a big unit, and with a compressor you might be interested in an active humidification system like a cigar oasis. Plenty of beads should also work. Different points of view would argue that both active and passive (beads) might work, but requires a certain balance and tweaking to get there, and often more maintenance. Definitely read into that if that is how you want to go.

Condensation drainage will be an issue if you are planning on plugging it in, and depending on that unit (I am not familiar with it) you want to plug the drain and rig up some other form of collection. Several people use the heartfelt beads (Don't add water directly to Shilala beads) and have it drain into their beads, but I have read from several that adding large amounts of water to those beads will reduce their effectiveness. A popular option is a separate drain collection that you can manually empty from time to time.

There is also the option to install a separate thermostat that will control when the unit cools usually allowing for a temperature closer to 65 and 70 opposed to the lower temperatures that they normally maintain. This generally means that the cooling would be less frequent and less intense reducing the amount of condensation while keeping it closer to an ideal temp.

Storage might be an issue, unless you just want to throw boxes in there. As already mentioned chasidor.com makes custom shelves and drawers for units, and I personally think that is the best way to go. However getting your own scrap cedar to make some shelves or using fridge racks/shelves that allow circulation would also work. I would make the recommendation (and I am sure there are varying options on the matter) that having some kind of shelves with lids (chasidor has great options for this) will help buffer and protect the rh and temp swings within the unit. Using cigar boxes, or smaller humidors inside would also work. I see that several people store there sticks in the open on the inside of their fridges without issue too so you might want to wait and see if that is needed with your setup.

I am a fan of having the cedar shelves and drawers for the typical reasons (humidity buffer, smell, flavor etc.), but no reason to pay more if you want to keep it on the cheap. Just get a bunch of used boxes to store your sticks in.

Then once you get it all setup you need to start looking for something else bigger cause you will outgrow that at some point and need to make an addition

wolfandwhisky · 06-04-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgue

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Then once you get it all setup you need to start looking for something else bigger cause you will outgrow that at some point and need to make an addition

Best advice yet... before you know it, you'll be doing a closet conversion to have your own walk in

06-04-2010, 11:07 AM	#1
gijoey959 Guest Posts: n/a	How do I set up a Vinotemp? I've been pondering how to build a cabinet humidor out of wood, but I gave up since its just too much stuff I don't have, so I found a scratch n dent place that had 58 bottle Vinotemps for $150 with 3 month warranty and I'm gonna get that. What do I do after that?

06-04-2010, 12:16 PM	#2
TXRebel Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Cary Location: Texas Posts: 1,274 Trading: (12)	Re: How do I set up a Vinotemp? If I’m not mistaken, the 58 bottle is not thermo electric, it is a compressor unit. Your RH will drop when the compressor runs. __________________ "The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself."

06-04-2010, 01:02 PM	#4
MichaelJ Just in from the Storm Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Mike Location: NH Posts: 43 Trading: (2)	Re: How do I set up a Vinotemp? The RH drops when my thermoelectric Edgestar 28 turns on, then cycle back up after a little while. 2lb of Shilala beads in there with the drain plugged. I don't really see the advantage of a thermoelectric?

06-04-2010, 01:13 PM	#5
captain53 Have My Own Room Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: Dave Location: Lake of the Ozarks & Austin, TX Posts: 1,333 Trading: (3)	Re: How do I set up a Vinotemp? ChasDen Shelves/Drawers & Shilala Beads both found right here in the NutHouse! Be Patient and then Enjoy. As to the thermo vs compressor - I have thermo and have heard all the stories both ways so I will hope to see some reports from you on the performance after it is all set up and settled in which takes at least a month if not more. I would certainly love to have a much larger unit but 28 bottle was the biggest thermo cooled model made by anyone so that is what I have. If you produce good results I will be up-sizing very soon.

06-04-2010, 01:32 PM	#6
Morgue Guest Posts: n/a	Re: How do I set up a Vinotemp? That is a big unit, and with a compressor you might be interested in an active humidification system like a cigar oasis. Plenty of beads should also work. Different points of view would argue that both active and passive (beads) might work, but requires a certain balance and tweaking to get there, and often more maintenance. Definitely read into that if that is how you want to go. Condensation drainage will be an issue if you are planning on plugging it in, and depending on that unit (I am not familiar with it) you want to plug the drain and rig up some other form of collection. Several people use the heartfelt beads (Don't add water directly to Shilala beads) and have it drain into their beads, but I have read from several that adding large amounts of water to those beads will reduce their effectiveness. A popular option is a separate drain collection that you can manually empty from time to time. There is also the option to install a separate thermostat that will control when the unit cools usually allowing for a temperature closer to 65 and 70 opposed to the lower temperatures that they normally maintain. This generally means that the cooling would be less frequent and less intense reducing the amount of condensation while keeping it closer to an ideal temp. Storage might be an issue, unless you just want to throw boxes in there. As already mentioned chasidor.com makes custom shelves and drawers for units, and I personally think that is the best way to go. However getting your own scrap cedar to make some shelves or using fridge racks/shelves that allow circulation would also work. I would make the recommendation (and I am sure there are varying options on the matter) that having some kind of shelves with lids (chasidor has great options for this) will help buffer and protect the rh and temp swings within the unit. Using cigar boxes, or smaller humidors inside would also work. I see that several people store there sticks in the open on the inside of their fridges without issue too so you might want to wait and see if that is needed with your setup. I am a fan of having the cedar shelves and drawers for the typical reasons (humidity buffer, smell, flavor etc.), but no reason to pay more if you want to keep it on the cheap. Just get a bunch of used boxes to store your sticks in. Then once you get it all setup you need to start looking for something else bigger cause you will outgrow that at some point and need to make an addition