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Old 12-27-2008, 09:29 AM   #21
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What 'bout Top Gun and Days of Thunder????
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:31 AM   #22
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Tom Cruise is a weirdo, a freak, a mental patient, but I like most of his movies.
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:34 AM   #23
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I'm glad it has been given a thumbs up. I really want this movie to be good since the plot is incredibly interesting (another history buff here). But I cannot stand Tom Cruise. At least the director didn't insult the audience by attempting to give everyone an English accent. I hate it when they do that. I would prefer this whole thing to be in German, but since it isn't I'm glad they just let them speak whatever without trying to force some ridiculous accent.
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:11 AM   #24
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Tom Cruise wasn't the star of Top Gun...the F-14A Tomcat was!
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:32 AM   #25
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What 'bout Top Gun and Days of Thunder????
Tropic Thunder is a third!
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:37 AM   #26
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:39 AM   #27
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:46 AM   #28
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i hear the movie was good but he made it suck.
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Old 12-27-2008, 02:06 PM   #29
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His character just didn't pull off the conflicted, torn officer leading the conspiracy save his country from Hitler.
I think because he was not torn, nor conflicted. He was very much convinced his actions were just and for the better of Germany. Their was not need to be conflicted or torn.
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I have to believe that there was GREAT conflict and second guessing of himself.

He was going against ALL that he stood for, Honor, Oath...ALL his training to obey..

WOW!!!
I'm trying to think on it and in the beginning...he had to be torn. AFTER he convinced himself of the right of this he would go full bore
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Old 12-27-2008, 04:29 PM   #31
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Old 12-28-2008, 04:07 PM   #32
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At 8 pm tonight there is a show on the History Channel about Valkyrie.
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Saw this last night and really liked from the historical point of view. Agree about Tom C. being a dillhole!
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Old 12-31-2008, 09:43 AM   #34
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Unfortunately I found the moving to be quite boring. There was very little said about why they wanted to overthrow Hitler which in large part a typical "Hollywood oversight" especially since Cruise would not approve of the fact his character's strong Catholic beliefs guided his decision.

The movie is fairly accurate, however in the typical Hollywood fashion they delay Hitlers announcement he is alive to enhance the plot.

I found Cruise to be dull and unbelievable in his role. I expected to find more conviction in what he was doing but it always ended in a "thud" for me.

In all this movie should have been made as a full throttle action film or a physiological thriller delving into the thoughts and minds of the characters. To me the movie missed on both parts and was very shallow and not entertaining.
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Old 12-31-2008, 09:54 AM   #35
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It was an ok movie, not great, not horrible. What i loved the most were the british accents by the actors and the absence of any accent by Tom Cruise.
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:15 AM   #36
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Unfortunately I found the moving to be quite boring. There was very little said about why they wanted to overthrow Hitler which in large part a typical "Hollywood oversight" especially since Cruise would not approve of the fact his character's strong Catholic beliefs guided his decision.

The movie is fairly accurate, however in the typical Hollywood fashion they delay Hitlers announcement he is alive to enhance the plot.

I found Cruise to be dull and unbelievable in his role. I expected to find more conviction in what he was doing but it always ended in a "thud" for me.

In all this movie should have been made as a full throttle action film or a physiological thriller delving into the thoughts and minds of the characters. To me the movie missed on both parts and was very shallow and not entertaining.
I agree with most of your comments.....the film should have made up it's mind between developing into a full-blown action sequence-filled epic, or a deep psycological thriller/drama and it offered shallow glimpses of both. Overall, I think it did a great job of holding your attention, however, but this is mostly due to the fact that the story itself is intense and quite compelling aside from any sort of Hollywood script/actors. Before going into the film, I had already made up my mind that I was pissed off that Tom Cruise didn't speak a bit of German, must less have any sort of accent. I was pleasantly surprised to find the opening scene with him in fact speaking German and it slowly evolving into English before the scene was over. Overall, I think it was definitely a solid film as I actually told my friends that I give it a solid 3.5 out of 5 stars. Definitely one worth going to see.....just don't have unrealistic expectations before screening it.

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I liked the movie alot..major history buff. When does Deivance with Daniel Craigh come out?
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Thanks for the review! I want to see this movie.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:15 PM   #39
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Hey now....TC is one of my favorite actors. Don't necessarily like him as a person, but I LOVE his movies:

A Few Good Men
Top Gun
Days of Thunder
Mission:Impossible
Jerry Maguire
The Last Samurai
Cocktail
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And yes Valkyrie was a great movie
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Thanks for the reviews. I liked the plot when I first saw the trailers, but have been hesitant to support Cruise. I guess I'll have to add it to the list of movies to see.
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