Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks? - Page 2

Sauer Grapes · 01-03-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by barbourjay

if they were real they wouldn't get in trouble

Unless the deal is that they weren't supposed to have them to sale in the first place, thus why the rep you emailed needed to investigate further.

I'm hoping that's not the case. It'd be cool to score those.

01-04-2010, 07:18 AM

I seriously doubt the authenticity.
A) I have RARELY seen opus with no gold emboss of the cello, occasionally they miss the gold part, but the emboss is there.
B) Opus Sharks with the foot band are the original release only found in Opus22 Boxes and Humidor release. The current box release OX77s are unbanded at the foot.
C) Bundled Opus, while sometimes sent to B&Ms to fill their singles boxes, are almost never of the rare varieties like the MADURO opus.
D) If they are legit, I must try one of each to verify authenticity.

DoctaJ · 01-04-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DougBushBC

D) If they are legit, I must try one of each to verify authenticity.

If they are in fact real, awesome score

01-05-2010, 08:01 PM

Confirmed what i suspected. These are fakes, here's a copy of the email from Drew Newman.

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Hi Jeremy,

Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention. After visiting this store and conducting an investigation, we concluded that these cigars are not authentic. We appreciate you letting us know and will be taking action.

Thanks,
Drew

leaving out the cigar shops name. if anyone buys from this region you can PM me first if you need to confirm they didn't come from this shop.

T.G · 01-05-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by barbourjay

Confirmed what i suspected. These are fakes.

leaving out the cigar shops name. if anyone buys from this region you can PM me first if you need to confirm they didn't come from this shop.

With all due respect, if this shop is an authorized Fuente dealer as you indicated in your OP, then I feel that being more forthcoming with their name would behoove the community as a whole. as who is to say that their fakes end with these HTF fakes?

Not everyone buys locally.

If this were a CC vendor, they'd be tarred, feathered and lynched by now, but to protect them in this fashion because they are in the US is, IMO, BS.

Vigiles · 01-05-2010, 08:18 PM

wow, that is interesting.

01-05-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

With all due respect, if this shop is an authorized Fuente dealer as you indicated in your OP, then I feel that being more forthcoming with their name would behoove the community as a whole. as who is to say that their fakes end with these HTF fakes?

Not everyone buys locally.

If this were a CC vendor, they'd be tarred, feathered and lynched by now, but to protect them in this fashion because they are in the US is, IMO, BS.

i believe the forum has a no bashing policy. if a mod clears it i will post the info.

T.G · 01-05-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by barbourjay

i believe the forum has a no bashing policy. if a mod clears it i will post the info.

Fair enough, although I wasn't aware of such, and I seem to recall at least one recent thread which one person slammed a humidor vendor and the thread is still up.

On a personal viewpoint note, I don't see outing an NC vendor who sells fakes as bashing, but rather a public service, but I can see how the thread could quickly degenerate into chaos. Of course, this isn't my site, so what I think doesn't mean dick.

BTW, to make things perfectly clear - I have no issue with you or your actions brother, I actually wanted to edit the last sentence of my previous post because I thought it sounded too harsh and might have given the wrong impression, but I was past the time allowed for edits once I had thought about it.

01-05-2010, 10:04 PM

"squirrel!!!!!"

01-05-2010, 10:12 PM

Please mods clear the policy on this up. I know I would certainly like to know who the former seller of fake Opus is/was! LOL !

Jay, If the mods OK this would you please post the name/adress of said shop?

It could save another BOTL some trouble.

Beagleone · 01-06-2010, 08:45 AM

I Should have looked more closely to this post when I first saw it and not from my IPhone. When the Opus Shark made it's way to DFW, I believe that they were in boxes of 30, and not bundles of 20. Honestly, I should have just bought the whole box and be done with it. Doug is correct in that they had the gold lettering on the cello and the foot was unbanded.

01-06-2010, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Beagleone

I Should have looked more closely to this post when I first saw it and not from my IPhone. When the Opus Shark made it's way to DFW, I believe that they were in boxes of 30, and not bundles of 20. Honestly, I should have just bought the whole box and be done with it. Doug is correct in that they had the gold lettering on the cello and the foot was unbanded.

the box was actually 36 and had gold lettering. the kind the vendor was selling looked exactly like the ones on vitolas.net which is the old set style that you can only get in the fuente promeuthus humidors (sp).

someone had one on ebay recently

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Beagleone · 01-06-2010, 09:27 AM

Thank for the clarification. The box was opened when I got there, so I didn't get a full count. I really should have picked it up. The EBay listing price is really much higher than what I would have paid for the box.

01-06-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Beagleone

Thank for the clarification. The box was opened when I got there, so I didn't get a full count. I really should have picked it up. The EBay listing price is really much higher than what I would have paid for the box.

MSRP is right at 15 i believe.

01-06-2010, 10:37 AM

Hi Jay, are you willing to post the name of the shop since drew newman himself stated these were fakes? I mean he is the highest authority on opus and if he declared them fakes then IMO this vendor needs outed. I think alot of botls here would benefit by knowing who this slimy shop is.

01-06-2010, 10:40 AM

as i posted earlier if a mod clears it then i will post it. none have spoken and i'm sure at least one of them has read this.

01-06-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by barbourjay

as i posted earlier if a mod clears it then i will post it. none have spoken and i'm sure at least one of them has read this.

no problem and I completely understand. I feel that it could save guys here potential trouble but will defer to the mods on this one. at least you got a conclusive answer though on the cigars

mods can we please get a yea or nay on posting the name/address of this confirmed seller of fake HTFs?

68TriShield · 01-06-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Only Fuentes

no problem and I completely understand. I feel that it could save guys here potential trouble but will defer to the mods on this one. at least you got a conclusive answer though on the cigars

mods can we please get a yea or nay on posting the name/address of this confirmed seller of fake HTFs?

It will be discussed somewhere along the line today.Until then,keeping it to PM is perfectly okay Jeremy.

htown · 01-06-2010, 11:18 AM

Its bad enough tht he is charging above MSRP, but he is charging 66% above MSRP on fakes and does not deserve protection.

JJG · 01-06-2010, 11:31 AM

I'm really surprised these turned out to be fake. I've never seen a fake Opus before but those looked pretty good. They sure went to a lot of trouble too with the cedar sleeve, ribbon on the foot, etc... If they had taken the extra step of including the gold celo lettering and done some more believable sizes/wrappers, we would have all been fooled.

01-04-2010, 07:18 AM	#22
DougBushBC Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks? I seriously doubt the authenticity. A) I have RARELY seen opus with no gold emboss of the cello, occasionally they miss the gold part, but the emboss is there. B) Opus Sharks with the foot band are the original release only found in Opus22 Boxes and Humidor release. The current box release OX77s are unbanded at the foot. C) Bundled Opus, while sometimes sent to B&Ms to fill their singles boxes, are almost never of the rare varieties like the MADURO opus. D) If they are legit, I must try one of each to verify authenticity.

01-05-2010, 08:18 PM	#26
Vigiles Still Watching My Back Join Date: Dec 2009 First Name: Garrett Location: VA Posts: 183 Trading: (3)	Re: Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks? wow, that is interesting.

01-05-2010, 10:04 PM	#29
mariogolbee Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks? "squirrel!!!!!"

01-05-2010, 10:12 PM	#30
Only Fuentes Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks? Please mods clear the policy on this up. I know I would certainly like to know who the former seller of fake Opus is/was! LOL ! Jay, If the mods OK this would you please post the name/adress of said shop? It could save another BOTL some trouble.

01-06-2010, 08:45 AM	#31
Beagleone Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Between here and there Posts: 815 Trading: (18)	Re: Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks? I Should have looked more closely to this post when I first saw it and not from my IPhone. When the Opus Shark made it's way to DFW, I believe that they were in boxes of 30, and not bundles of 20. Honestly, I should have just bought the whole box and be done with it. Doug is correct in that they had the gold lettering on the cello and the foot was unbanded. __________________ Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" didn't have gonorrhea.

01-06-2010, 09:27 AM	#33
Beagleone Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Between here and there Posts: 815 Trading: (18)	Re: Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks? Thank for the clarification. The box was opened when I got there, so I didn't get a full count. I really should have picked it up. The EBay listing price is really much higher than what I would have paid for the box. __________________ Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" didn't have gonorrhea.

01-06-2010, 10:37 AM	#35
Only Fuentes Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks? Hi Jay, are you willing to post the name of the shop since drew newman himself stated these were fakes? I mean he is the highest authority on opus and if he declared them fakes then IMO this vendor needs outed. I think alot of botls here would benefit by knowing who this slimy shop is.

01-06-2010, 10:40 AM	#36
barbourjay Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks? as i posted earlier if a mod clears it then i will post it. none have spoken and i'm sure at least one of them has read this.

01-06-2010, 11:18 AM	#39
htown Feeling at Home Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Sugar Land Posts: 877 Trading: (29)	Re: Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks? Its bad enough tht he is charging above MSRP, but he is charging 66% above MSRP on fakes and does not deserve protection.

01-06-2010, 11:31 AM	#40
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks? I'm really surprised these turned out to be fake. I've never seen a fake Opus before but those looked pretty good. They sure went to a lot of trouble too with the cedar sleeve, ribbon on the foot, etc... If they had taken the extra step of including the gold celo lettering and done some more believable sizes/wrappers, we would have all been fooled.