Liga Privada T52 Toro

macsauce13 · 10-05-2011, 06:26 PM

Liga Privada T-52 Toro

Drew Estate created the Liga Privada T52 Toro "stalk cut habano" for Steve Saka's personal enjoyment and this cigar was released in 2009 at the New Orleans IPCPR show. A departure from the flavored cigars and budget sticks Drew Estate is known for, the Liga Privada T52 is quite complex. A multi-country blend of tobaccos the core of this cigar is the Dominican, Honduran, and Nicaraguan filler. The Brazilian Mata Fina binder is grown by Jose Fuego. The wrapper is a new wrapper never before used called the "stalk cut habano".

Initial Thoughts:
Man this really is a beautiful cigar. Rich, dark and super oily. Made firm but gives just a bit under pressure.

First Third:
Unfortunately this first third has been quite disappointing. As a huge Liga fan, I really expect the best out of each and every cigar. More often than not, that is exactly what you get, but tonight this cigar is just not there. There is a real lack of flavor and complexity in this example of the blend. Even the construction is a little off, having to correct it several times throughout the first 15-20 minutes of the cigar. Even the girlfriend sitting next to me comments that although it doesn't smell bad to her, it almost smells like there is "nothing to the cigar." She may have a better palate than me, even without having ever smoked a cigar! The flavor is just dull, consisting of hay and a distinct harshness that is very unfamiliar to the cigar.

Second Third:
The construction problems have dulled quite a bit and I'm at least getting to sit outside in the nice Ohio weather and relax without having to constantly touch up. The smell coming from the cigar has gotten a bit sweeter, more normal for what I am used to, but honestly the flavor hasn't really shaped up. Having recently just gotten this particular cigar from a trade, I have to wonder if it has been improperly stored as it just tastes dry, like the oils and goodness have just dried up. The hay remains the predominant taste with bits of pepper popping in and out. On occasion there is a bit of a deep chocolatey flavor that is there for just a moment.

Final Third:
About an inch away from the band at this point and just not enjoying the cigar at all. It is burning hot and jagged and completely atypical of the Liga Privada blend. Let it go just shortly after, and headed back inside frustrated after a poor experience with one of my favorite cigars.

Overall I would rate this particular cigar an 82.

Ogre · 10-05-2011, 06:33 PM

Great review, I agree with your assessment. I like 9 so much better!!!

DaBear · 10-05-2011, 06:36 PM

Wow, sorry to hear you had a bad experience. I had been hearing that the recent batches of T52s hadn't been quite up to par and needed a little time when I bought one a while ago. Might have just been a little green still? I think I'm gonna let mine rest a bit longer before I smoke it. Luckily its buried quite deep so I should be able to forget about it for awhile.

Remo · 10-05-2011, 06:37 PM

I have about 4 or 5 buried in the humi, I guess i'll let em sit awhile.

kelmac07 · 10-05-2011, 06:42 PM

Not a fan of the T-52 line.

T.G · 10-05-2011, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macsauce13

Liga Privada T-52 Toro
A multi-country blend of tobaccos the core of this cigar is the Dominican, Honduran, and Nicaraguan filler.

FYI, there is no Dominican tobacco in the T-52.

macsauce13 · 10-05-2011, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G

FYI, there is no Dominican tobacco in the T-52.

Really? Ironically, that is just a synopsis I pulled from a retailer.

T.G · 10-05-2011, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macsauce13

Really? Ironically, that is just a synopsis I pulled from a retailer.

Yep. Positive. Unfortunately, that misinformation is still all over the place. I certainly don't blame you for it.

From Steve Saka in January of 2010:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssaka

2) There is no Dominican tobacco in any of the currently on the market LP blends although this is printed and posted in error all over the place. The basic components are as follows:

No. 9
Wrapper - Connecticut Broadleaf No. 1 Darks
Binder - Plantation Grown Brazilian Mata Fina
Filler - 4 Different Nicaraguan leaves + 1 Honduran Leaf

Flying Pig
Identical to the No. 9 except there is more Nica Viso and Ligero due to its ample girth.

T52:
Wrapper - Connecticut Grown Stalk Cut & Stalk Cured Sungrown
Binder - Plantation Grown Brazilian Mata Fina
Filler - 4 Different Nicaraguan leaves + 1 Honduran Leaf - however, the 2 of the Nica fillers are different from the No. 9 blend as are the proportions.

Hope that helps clear it up some.

neoflex · 10-05-2011, 07:43 PM

I love the T-52 and the Toro tends to be my go to Vitola for this stick but I too have noticed that consistency has been a little bit of an issue the last couple of months. Hopefully it will be a short lived issue as these tend to be my go to smoke.

macsauce13 · 10-05-2011, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G

Yep. Positive. Unfortunately, that misinformation is still all over the place. I certainly don't blame you for it.

From Steve Saka in January of 2010:

Hope that helps clear it up some.

Huh, very interesting! Thanks for the info!

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoflex

I love the T-52 and the Toro tends to be my go to Vitola for this stick but I too have noticed that consistency has been a little bit of an issue the last couple of months. Hopefully it will be a short lived issue as these tend to be my go to smoke.

Yeah, I've had several before this that were delicious. Tonight was a major disappointment, as I only smoke them on a rare occasion.

gator_79 · 10-05-2011, 08:36 PM

I enjoy both the T-52 and T-9. I still have 3 of the T52 pigs that I'm waiting for just the right time to light up.

Bruins Fan · 10-06-2011, 03:04 AM

Not a fan, bought into the hype

RCS44 · 10-10-2011, 12:25 PM

I like the t52 line but the toro size is a little big. I enjoy every other sizes though

falconman515 · 10-17-2011, 05:17 PM

was wondering if I had the chance to try a LP9 or T52 which one I should try first.

I think I may give the 9 a go before the T52.

Great review brother.

10-23-2011, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falconman515

was wondering if I had the chance to try a LP9 or T52 which one I should try first.

I think I may give the 9 a go before the T52.

Great review brother.

T52 if you like spicy.

10-05-2011, 06:26 PM	#1
macsauce13 Have My Own Room Join Date: Mar 2010 First Name: McKenzie Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 1,107 Trading: (38)	Liga Privada T52 Toro Liga Privada T-52 Toro Drew Estate created the Liga Privada T52 Toro "stalk cut habano" for Steve Saka's personal enjoyment and this cigar was released in 2009 at the New Orleans IPCPR show. A departure from the flavored cigars and budget sticks Drew Estate is known for, the Liga Privada T52 is quite complex. A multi-country blend of tobaccos the core of this cigar is the Dominican, Honduran, and Nicaraguan filler. The Brazilian Mata Fina binder is grown by Jose Fuego. The wrapper is a new wrapper never before used called the "stalk cut habano". Initial Thoughts: Man this really is a beautiful cigar. Rich, dark and super oily. Made firm but gives just a bit under pressure. First Third: Unfortunately this first third has been quite disappointing. As a huge Liga fan, I really expect the best out of each and every cigar. More often than not, that is exactly what you get, but tonight this cigar is just not there. There is a real lack of flavor and complexity in this example of the blend. Even the construction is a little off, having to correct it several times throughout the first 15-20 minutes of the cigar. Even the girlfriend sitting next to me comments that although it doesn't smell bad to her, it almost smells like there is "nothing to the cigar." She may have a better palate than me, even without having ever smoked a cigar! The flavor is just dull, consisting of hay and a distinct harshness that is very unfamiliar to the cigar. Second Third: The construction problems have dulled quite a bit and I'm at least getting to sit outside in the nice Ohio weather and relax without having to constantly touch up. The smell coming from the cigar has gotten a bit sweeter, more normal for what I am used to, but honestly the flavor hasn't really shaped up. Having recently just gotten this particular cigar from a trade, I have to wonder if it has been improperly stored as it just tastes dry, like the oils and goodness have just dried up. The hay remains the predominant taste with bits of pepper popping in and out. On occasion there is a bit of a deep chocolatey flavor that is there for just a moment. Final Third: About an inch away from the band at this point and just not enjoying the cigar at all. It is burning hot and jagged and completely atypical of the Liga Privada blend. Let it go just shortly after, and headed back inside frustrated after a poor experience with one of my favorite cigars. Overall I would rate this particular cigar an 82.

10-05-2011, 06:33 PM	#2
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Liga Privada T52 Toro Great review, I agree with your assessment. I like 9 so much better!!! __________________

10-05-2011, 06:36 PM	#3
DaBear Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Bear Location: Raleigh, NC(NC State) Posts: 2,010 Trading: (26)	Re: Liga Privada T52 Toro Wow, sorry to hear you had a bad experience. I had been hearing that the recent batches of T52s hadn't been quite up to par and needed a little time when I bought one a while ago. Might have just been a little green still? I think I'm gonna let mine rest a bit longer before I smoke it. Luckily its buried quite deep so I should be able to forget about it for awhile.

10-05-2011, 06:37 PM	#4
Remo C.I.A Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 12,597 Trading: (122)	Re: Liga Privada T52 Toro I have about 4 or 5 buried in the humi, I guess i'll let em sit awhile. __________________

10-05-2011, 06:42 PM	#5
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Liga Privada T52 Toro Not a fan of the T-52 line. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

10-05-2011, 07:43 PM	#9
neoflex I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: John Location: Monroe, NC Posts: 2,765 Trading: (32)	Re: Liga Privada T52 Toro I love the T-52 and the Toro tends to be my go to Vitola for this stick but I too have noticed that consistency has been a little bit of an issue the last couple of months. Hopefully it will be a short lived issue as these tend to be my go to smoke. __________________

10-05-2011, 08:36 PM	#11
gator_79 Still Watching My Back Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Robin Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 184 Trading: (3)	Re: Liga Privada T52 Toro I enjoy both the T-52 and T-9. I still have 3 of the T52 pigs that I'm waiting for just the right time to light up.

10-06-2011, 03:04 AM	#12
Bruins Fan Hooper drives the boat. Join Date: May 2009 First Name: John Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,359 Trading: (0)	Re: Liga Privada T52 Toro Not a fan, bought into the hype __________________ Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women.

10-10-2011, 12:25 PM	#13
RCS44 Still Watching My Back Join Date: Mar 2011 First Name: Ryne Location: Chicago Posts: 233 Trading: (1)	Re: Liga Privada T52 Toro I like the t52 line but the toro size is a little big. I enjoy every other sizes though

10-17-2011, 05:17 PM	#14
falconman515 Central Cali Cigar Crew Join Date: Jul 2011 First Name: Chris Location: Fresno, CA. Posts: 660 Trading: (35)	Re: Liga Privada T52 Toro was wondering if I had the chance to try a LP9 or T52 which one I should try first. I think I may give the 9 a go before the T52. Great review brother.