Bead distribution in this humi

jonumberone · 08-03-2010, 10:02 AM

I'm in the market for some beads.
I have located the bead calculator for the total amount of beads needed.
Just wondering How people spread them out in this humi?

All on the bottom?
1/2 pound each shelf?
Tube in each drawer?
Do you use mesh Bags, Plastic trays?

I appreciate the help.

bsmokin · 08-03-2010, 10:58 AM

You can expect no help from me Dom... I'm WAAAYYYY TO JEALOUS of that humi to want to help out!

Well, that and, since I don't have that humi (that I'm REALLY JEALOUS OF) I can't really offer my experienced opinion...

Giants85 · 08-03-2010, 11:02 AM

I would say the more evenly distributed the beads are the better, no? Experiment with placement until every shelf/drawer reads what you like. Look into adding fans too if you can't keep the desired RH in all areas. This will help move the air around a bit.

I personally use mesh bags, but I don't have experience with this particular humi, or one even close to that size!! I believe the way you store them is really up to you and what you prefer. The only thing you are looking to do is maximize surface area of the beads.

CigarNut · 08-03-2010, 11:04 AM

Distributed about in mesh bags would probably be best.

markem · 08-03-2010, 11:04 AM

what do you plan to use for air circulation?

I'd recommend a distributed approach with mesh bags (more surface area). I'd put at least a small amount in each drawer (but not each compartment of each drawer) just as a precaution.

The two big things you want to consider are:

Making the humidity consistent throughout. Otherwise your gauges are almost no use.
Have a buffer for humidity spikes. I am not sure if the spikes would start at the top or bottom of such a humidor. Perhaps someone else has an idea.

Contact Michael (cigarnut) about how he'd recommend using Shiala beads in your setup.

jonumberone · 08-03-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by markem

what do you plan to use for air circulation?

I have a Hydra LG inside now I was considering getting the fan kit for it, But wasn't sure if it would work with beads or just screw them up.

AD720 · 08-03-2010, 11:49 AM

Keep in mind that air with a higher RH% (more humid) will rise. I take advantage of that by storing cigars I want a little dryer at the bottom. I have a similarly shaped humidor and have three hygos, one bottom, one mid and one top. A couple Oust fans would keep it a little more uniform if that is what you are going for.

Just season it up really well and throw the sticks in. You will figure out how many beads where once it settles down.

AD720 · 08-03-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone

I have a Hydra LG inside now I was considering getting the fan kit for it, But wasn't sure if it would work with beads or just screw them up.

Will not screw them up. I have a Cigar Oasis and beads. The Oasis recharges the beads for me and picks up the slack when I open the door and take a half hour to pick something out.

kydsid · 08-03-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone

I have a Hydra LG inside now I was considering getting the fan kit for it, But wasn't sure if it would work with beads or just screw them up.

No it will not screw them up as already noted. A hydra doesn't have to have the water tank attached, or even the main body used. I use the hydra power supply to run fans inside my edgestar. It just runs them 24/7 but hydra fans are really just cheap 2 wire computer fans that I pick up at Fry's. They are always chinese and some have gone for a month and died others are still running years later.

T.G · 08-03-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone

I'm in the market for some beads.
I have located the bead calculator for the total amount of beads needed.
Just wondering How people spread them out in this humi?

All on the bottom?
1/2 pound each shelf?
Tube in each drawer?
Do you use mesh Bags, Plastic trays?

I appreciate the help.

Get a can of 3M Super77+ spray glue, spray the walls of the humidor and then apply the beads evenly in a nice smooth coat with a bondo spreader.

Even humidification throughout.

jonumberone · 08-03-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

Get a can of 3M Super77+ spray glue, spray the walls of the humidor and then apply the beads evenly in a nice smooth coat with a bondo spreader.

Even humidification throughout.

In your application how should I moisten them? Water pistol or garden hose?

T.G · 08-03-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jonumberone

In your application how should I moisten them? Water pistol or garden hose?

waffle · 08-03-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by t.g

beautiful ingenuity!

Mugen910 · 08-03-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

rharris · 08-03-2010, 07:14 PM

I have the identical humi. I use 8 ounce bags on each shelf and a cigar oasis on the very bottom portion. Works like a champ. I have a few small bead tubes in some of the drawers. I use the heartfelt style beads in mesh bags and spray them with distilled water from a spray bottle. This setup works awesome.

Chingas · 08-03-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rharris

I have the identical humi. I use 8 ounce bags on each shelf and a cigar oasis on the very bottom portion. Works like a champ. I have a few small bead tubes in some of the drawers. I use the heartfelt style beads in mesh bags and spray them with distilled water from a spray bottle. This setup works awesome.

Next to the bondo method, this sounds like the best approach.

Chainsaw13 · 08-03-2010, 08:37 PM

I have that same cabinet, with 2lbs of Shilala's beads in it. I have a bag on each shelf, one in behind the drawers and a couple extra spread about on the shelves. I used to have a Humi-care XG1000 in the bottom, but it became pointless after moving the cab into the basement. It holds a rock steady 68-69% now. With XG1000, it was over humidifying the cabinet.

As for fans, I haven't bothered. I open the door at least once a day to grab a cigar. That's my air circulation.

jonumberone · 08-04-2010, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rharris

I have the identical humi. I use 8 ounce bags on each shelf and a cigar oasis on the very bottom portion. Works like a champ. I have a few small bead tubes in some of the drawers. I use the heartfelt style beads in mesh bags and spray them with distilled water from a spray bottle. This setup works awesome.

I'm Going to give this method a try.

Thanks for everyones help!

N2Advnture · 08-04-2010, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonumberone

I have a Hydra LG inside now I was considering getting the fan kit for it, But wasn't sure if it would work with beads or just screw them up.

This is actually the setup that I was going to recommend.

Large Hydra located on the bottom and 1/2 - 1 lb of RH Beads on each shelf.

Works like a charm in most environments but may vary depending on your ambient RH and how often you open and close your cabinet or add/remove cigars.

I hope this helps.

~Mark

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bsmokin Slippin... Fast. Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Bryan Location: South Jersey Posts: 616 Trading: (15)	Re: Bead distribution in this humi You can expect no help from me Dom... I'm WAAAYYYY TO JEALOUS of that humi to want to help out! Well, that and, since I don't have that humi (that I'm REALLY JEALOUS OF) I can't really offer my experienced opinion...

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Giants85 Still Watching My Back Join Date: Feb 2010 First Name: Justin Location: Monroe, NY Posts: 91 Trading: (4)	Re: Bead distribution in this humi I would say the more evenly distributed the beads are the better, no? Experiment with placement until every shelf/drawer reads what you like. Look into adding fans too if you can't keep the desired RH in all areas. This will help move the air around a bit. I personally use mesh bags, but I don't have experience with this particular humi, or one even close to that size!! I believe the way you store them is really up to you and what you prefer. The only thing you are looking to do is maximize surface area of the beads.

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CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,038 Trading: (111*)	Re: Bead distribution in this humi Distributed about in mesh bags would probably be best. __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

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markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,528 Trading: (47)	Re: Bead distribution in this humi what do you plan to use for air circulation? I'd recommend a distributed approach with mesh bags (more surface area). I'd put at least a small amount in each drawer (but not each compartment of each drawer) just as a precaution. The two big things you want to consider are: Making the humidity consistent throughout. Otherwise your gauges are almost no use. Have a buffer for humidity spikes. I am not sure if the spikes would start at the top or bottom of such a humidor. Perhaps someone else has an idea. Contact Michael (cigarnut) about how he'd recommend using Shiala beads in your setup. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

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AD720 I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The City of BOTL-erly Love Posts: 2,684 Trading: (73)	Re: Bead distribution in this humi Keep in mind that air with a higher RH% (more humid) will rise. I take advantage of that by storing cigars I want a little dryer at the bottom. I have a similarly shaped humidor and have three hygos, one bottom, one mid and one top. A couple Oust fans would keep it a little more uniform if that is what you are going for. Just season it up really well and throw the sticks in. You will figure out how many beads where once it settles down. __________________ Last edited by AD720; 08-03-2010 at 11:54 AM.

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rharris Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Richard Location: Norwich N.Y. Posts: 281 Trading: (48)	Re: Bead distribution in this humi I have the identical humi. I use 8 ounce bags on each shelf and a cigar oasis on the very bottom portion. Works like a champ. I have a few small bead tubes in some of the drawers. I use the heartfelt style beads in mesh bags and spray them with distilled water from a spray bottle. This setup works awesome.

08-03-2010, 08:37 PM	#17
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,039 Trading: (96)	Re: Bead distribution in this humi I have that same cabinet, with 2lbs of Shilala's beads in it. I have a bag on each shelf, one in behind the drawers and a couple extra spread about on the shelves. I used to have a Humi-care XG1000 in the bottom, but it became pointless after moving the cab into the basement. It holds a rock steady 68-69% now. With XG1000, it was over humidifying the cabinet. As for fans, I haven't bothered. I open the door at least once a day to grab a cigar. That's my air circulation. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.