5 vegas

jerseystepup · 09-26-2009, 10:41 AM

I know who blends the miami obviosly. But who blends the other 5 vegas cigars such as the gold and the classic? My father in law loves the gold and I'm looking for an answer for him.

MajorCaptSilly · 09-26-2009, 11:33 AM

I checked around via Google and only found that they are made in Honduras with Dominican and Honduran tobbaco. I can't find the manufacturer.

MCS

jerseystepup · 09-26-2009, 11:40 AM

Yea that's the same thing I came up with. Hmmmm

Les Nessman · 09-26-2009, 02:31 PM

I think Nestor Placencia is behind 5 Vegas. I'm not sure if he is responsible for all the blends though. I believe the Limitada was from La Aurora, at least the 2006 blend was.

BigCat · 09-26-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Les Nessman

I think Nestor Placencia is behind 5 Vegas. I'm not sure if he is responsible for all the blends though. I believe the Limitada was from La Aurora, at least the 2006 blend was.

I think it's Nestor.

Starscream · 09-26-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCat

I think it's Nestor.

So does he do the classic, gold, and A series? Or is Nestor just involved with the classic line?

BigCat · 09-26-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland

So does he do the classic, gold, and A series? Or is Nestor just involved with the classic line?

I believe he is involved in all of the above, including the cask strength. My info comes from a couple google searches and from a thread I remember on the cbid forums where it was discussed, so take it for what it is worth

bigheadmark · 09-26-2009, 04:51 PM

I got some 5 vegas classic cigars in a sampler several months ago, and truthfully I was quite disappointed...they were nothing like the 5 vegas gold, which I thought was excellent

TheTraveler · 09-26-2009, 04:52 PM

I spoke to a customer service rep at CI about the 5 Vegas Gold ... he said that the original blender was Kiki Barber. He said the brand was bought 5 to 8 years ago and that, while the blend may have changed slightly over time (tobacco crops being dynamic things, not static) it hasn't actually ever been re-blended. That's his story anyway.

He also said that CI holds that brand and any you see in B&Ms were purchased from CI then put on the shelves. Has anyone heard that before? I had never heard that before.

Just my two cents.

(Yes, I did call the customer service rep JUST for the purpose of answering this question. I'm a trivia nut and the question intrigued me, plus I'm a little OCD. *shrug* )

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800 posts! I'm catching up, icehog3!

Kreth · 09-26-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bigheadmark

I got some 5 vegas classic cigars in a sampler several months ago, and truthfully I was quite disappointed...they were nothing like the 5 vegas gold, which I thought was excellent

I had the opposite experience. I enjoyed the Classic and thought the Gold was like smoking air.
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Whee · 09-26-2009, 05:01 PM

The Classic's definitley benefit from some nap time. I found some coronas at the bottom of the humi that were very good. They had been threre a llittle ove a year.

Gold's are my go to morning/first smoke of the day stick.

They aren;t complex by any means. But the entire line is good smoking for little money.

Starscream · 09-26-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTraveler

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You'll never make it.

BigCat · 09-27-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheTraveler

I spoke to a customer service rep at CI about the 5 Vegas Gold ... he said that the original blender was Kiki Barber. He said the brand was bought 5 to 8 years ago and that, while the blend may have changed slightly over time (tobacco crops being dynamic things, not static) it hasn't actually ever been re-blended. That's his story anyway.

He also said that CI holds that brand and any you see in B&Ms were purchased from CI then put on the shelves. Has anyone heard that before? I had never heard that before.

Just my two cents.

(Yes, I did call the customer service rep JUST for the purpose of answering this question. I'm a trivia nut and the question intrigued me, plus I'm a little OCD. *shrug* )

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800 posts! I'm catching up, icehog3!

I sit corrected, I think...the information I referenced with regard to the thread on CBid came from SteveR, another CI customer service rep. Maybe it isn't inconsisten - the guy you spoke to referred to the "original" blender after all. Also, check out http://www.cigar.com/newsletter/archive.asp?a=062007 for the article about visiting with Nestor Placencia, which references his making the 5 vegas gold.

Sometimes I think customer service reps make things up when they don't know the answer to a question...

TheTraveler · 09-27-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCat

Sometimes I think customer service reps make things up when they don't know the answer to a question...

I wholeheartedly agree!

I certainly can't vouch for the knowledge of the guy I talked to.

Just passing along his info. Besides, I've never heard that CI owned the 5 Vegas brand ... anyone know if that's true?

BigCat · 09-27-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheTraveler

I wholeheartedly agree!

I certainly can't vouch for the knowledge of the guy I talked to.

Just passing along his info. Besides, I've never heard that CI owned the 5 Vegas brand ... anyone know if that's true?

I believe that to be true - but my sources are the same as referenced above with regard to the blending, so take it for what it's worth

Bubba - NJ · 09-27-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kreth

I had the opposite experience. I enjoyed the Classic and thought the Gold was like smoking air.
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T.G · 09-27-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTraveler

I spoke to a customer service rep at CI about the 5 Vegas Gold ... he said that the original blender was Kiki Barber. He said the brand was bought 5 to 8 years ago and that, while the blend may have changed slightly over time (tobacco crops being dynamic things, not static) it hasn't actually ever been re-blended. That's his story anyway.

He also said that CI holds that brand and any you see in B&Ms were purchased from CI then put on the shelves. Has anyone heard that before? I had never heard that before.

Just my two cents.

(Yes, I did call the customer service rep JUST for the purpose of answering this question. I'm a trivia nut and the question intrigued me, plus I'm a little OCD. *shrug* )

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800 posts! I'm catching up, icehog3!

Whomever you talked to was slightly confused and mixing up cigars.

Kiki Berger / World Tobacco originally blended the Classic. Then World Tobacco went bellyup and CI picked up the brand about 8-10 years ago.

Nestor Plasencia now makes the 5 Vegas Classic in Nicaragua for CI.

Nestor Plasencia blended and manufactures the 5 Vegas Gold (SteveR almost got arrested in the Honduras airport taking back a bundle of samples from Nestor). The 5 Vegas Gold didn't come out until about 5 years ago.

Torano makes the 5 Vegas "A" in Honduras.

5 Vegas Miami is Pepin. Manufactured mostly in his Nicaraguan factory, and there is one that is made in Miami.

Limitada '05, '06, '07 & '08 were blended by Jose Blanco of La Aurora and manufactured by La Aurora in the DR.

The original Cask Strength was also Jose Blanco & La Aurora.

Limitada '09, Cask-II, and Relic were blended by Mauel Quesada of MATASA and manufactured by MATASA.

I can't recall offhand who did the 5 Vegas Shorts. I think it might have been Nestor.

TheTraveler · 09-27-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

Whomever you talked to was slightly confused and mixing up cigars.

Kiki Berger / World Tobacco originally blended the Classic. Then World Tobacco went bellyup and CI picked up the brand about 8 years ago.

Nestor Plasencia now makes the 5 Vegas Classic in Nicaragua for CI.

Nestor Plasencia blended and manufactures the 5 Vegas Gold (SteveR almost got arrested in the Honduras airport taking back a bundle of samples from Nestor). The 5 Vegas Gold didn't come out until about 5 years ago.

Torano makes the 5 Vegas "A" in Honduras.

5 Vegas Miami is Pepin. Manufactured mostly in his Nicaraguan factory, and there is one that is made in Miami.

Limitada '05, '06, '07 & '08 were blended by Jose Blanco of La Aurora and manufactured by La Aurora in the DR.

The original Cask Strength was also Jose Blanco & La Aurora.

Limitada '09, Cask-II, and Relic were blended by Mauel Quesada of MATASA and manufactured by MATASA.

I can't recall offhand who did the 5 Vegas Shorts. I think it might have been Nestor.

Now that's pretty informative. Thanks for digging up the info.

Starscream · 09-27-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

Whomever you talked to was slightly confused and mixing up cigars.

Kiki Berger / World Tobacco originally blended the Classic. Then World Tobacco went bellyup and CI picked up the brand about 8-10 years ago.

Nestor Plasencia now makes the 5 Vegas Classic in Nicaragua for CI.

Nestor Plasencia blended and manufactures the 5 Vegas Gold (SteveR almost got arrested in the Honduras airport taking back a bundle of samples from Nestor). The 5 Vegas Gold didn't come out until about 5 years ago.

Torano makes the 5 Vegas "A" in Honduras.

5 Vegas Miami is Pepin. Manufactured mostly in his Nicaraguan factory, and there is one that is made in Miami.

Limitada '05, '06, '07 & '08 were blended by Jose Blanco of La Aurora and manufactured by La Aurora in the DR.

The original Cask Strength was also Jose Blanco & La Aurora.

Limitada '09, Cask-II, and Relic were blended by Mauel Quesada of MATASA and manufactured by MATASA.

I can't recall offhand who did the 5 Vegas Shorts. I think it might have been Nestor.

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to T.G again.

TheTraveler · 09-27-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to T.G again.

Gotcha covered.

09-26-2009, 10:41 AM	#1
jerseystepup L-I-V-I-N Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Randy Location: New Jersey Posts: 774 Trading: (9)	5 vegas I know who blends the miami obviosly. But who blends the other 5 vegas cigars such as the gold and the classic? My father in law loves the gold and I'm looking for an answer for him.

09-26-2009, 11:33 AM	#2
MajorCaptSilly Sklee Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 2,523 Trading: (30)	Re: 5 vegas I checked around via Google and only found that they are made in Honduras with Dominican and Honduran tobbaco. I can't find the manufacturer. MCS __________________ Pillsbury, Minneapolis, Prince, Spoon Bridge and Cherry, coinkydink?

09-26-2009, 11:40 AM	#3
jerseystepup L-I-V-I-N Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Randy Location: New Jersey Posts: 774 Trading: (9)	Re: 5 vegas Yea that's the same thing I came up with. Hmmmm

09-26-2009, 02:31 PM	#4
Les Nessman Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Randy Location: Astoria Posts: 65 Trading: (7)	Re: 5 vegas I think Nestor Placencia is behind 5 Vegas. I'm not sure if he is responsible for all the blends though. I believe the Limitada was from La Aurora, at least the 2006 blend was.

09-26-2009, 04:51 PM	#8
bigheadmark Uncle Jun, how was Boca? Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: MARK Location: Grand Blanc, Michigan USA Posts: 260 Trading: (1)	Re: 5 vegas I got some 5 vegas classic cigars in a sampler several months ago, and truthfully I was quite disappointed...they were nothing like the 5 vegas gold, which I thought was excellent

09-26-2009, 04:52 PM	#9
TheTraveler giggity giggitty Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jonathan Location: Near a Walmart Posts: 1,813 Trading: (12)	Re: 5 vegas I spoke to a customer service rep at CI about the 5 Vegas Gold ... he said that the original blender was Kiki Barber. He said the brand was bought 5 to 8 years ago and that, while the blend may have changed slightly over time (tobacco crops being dynamic things, not static) it hasn't actually ever been re-blended. That's his story anyway. He also said that CI holds that brand and any you see in B&Ms were purchased from CI then put on the shelves. Has anyone heard that before? I had never heard that before. Just my two cents. (Yes, I did call the customer service rep JUST for the purpose of answering this question. I'm a trivia nut and the question intrigued me, plus I'm a little OCD. shrug ) EDIT: 800 posts! I'm catching up, icehog3! __________________ "My life is my own."

09-26-2009, 05:01 PM	#11
Whee formerly illinoishoosier Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Sean Location: Bishopville, SC Posts: 3,591 Trading: (17)	Re: 5 vegas The Classic's definitley benefit from some nap time. I found some coronas at the bottom of the humi that were very good. They had been threre a llittle ove a year. Gold's are my go to morning/first smoke of the day stick. They aren;t complex by any means. But the entire line is good smoking for little money. __________________ "Maybe I'm wrong, when they tell me they're right…..naaaaahhhhhh, I'm an asshooooooleeee"--Denis Leary