Blackberry or Iphone - Page 3

The Professor · 04-03-2009, 06:16 AM

One other thing I forgot to suggest is that you should go try each out at the store. Some people REALLY like one interface or the other (touchscreen or physical kb) and the only way to really tell is to play with each ... ideally side-by-side.

King James · 04-03-2009, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by goalie204

I've read that the iphone doesn't have push email tho. I don't want to be sitting and waiting for an email, to know i have one, or have to check my email program every few minutes..

It does now since last software update

Blueface · 04-03-2009, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by King James

It does now since last software update

Not only that but if you have mobile me, no problem.

This is as great a debate as fake v. real or NC v. CC.
Both sides will like certain features.

I love my iPhone. Great toy. Have gotten use to the keyboard for texting although I would agree the Blackberry is better for that.
The internet, the email as you see it on your PC, the apps, way to much of a reason to get the iPhone.

On top of all that, you can buy the Mobile Stogie application.

357 · 04-03-2009, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by goalie204

I've read that the iphone doesn't have push email tho.

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Originally Posted by King James

It does now since last software update

Doesn't this somewhat depend on your mail server? From what I understand Windows Mobile is the only phone OS that can receive push e-mail from an Exchange server.

That's why I asked if you use Exchange at your work. If not then it doesn't make as much difference as far as pushing/pulling e-mail.

Pete · 04-03-2009, 07:50 AM

I like my iPhone. Texting was a big cumbersome at first, but quickly mastered the touch screen.

No probelm getting e-mails. They just pop up.

Plus, it has that ubiquitous i-pod receptacle that can play your music damn near anywhere these days.

qwerty1500 · 04-03-2009, 07:59 AM

Not real techy ... but Microsoft Exchange on the server at the office pushes, email, calendar changes and contact changes to my iPhone. In fact, I ususally receive them on my phone a few seconds before they appear on my desktop at our satellite office. The only app that I have to manually synch is my task list updates.

The Professor · 04-03-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 357

Doesn't this somewhat depend on your mail server? From what I understand Windows Mobile is the only phone OS that can receive push e-mail from an Exchange server.

That's why I asked if you use Exchange at your work. If not then it doesn't make as much difference as far as pushing/pulling e-mail.

Sort of. From what I understand, you have to have email from a service that offers push in order for it to work on the iPhone. That means 3 main options: Gmail, business email from an Exchange server, or MobileMe. That said, I thought there were some power management issues associated with iPhone's push.

BlackBerry, on the other hand, has BIS (BlackBerry Internet Service) which acts as an intermediary between your email and your phone. BIS makes *any* email "pushed" to your phone in more-or-less realtime.

The pros and cons of BB vs. iPhone can go back and forth. Like I said before: if I was made of money, I'd probably do the iPhone. I'm a huge Mac fanboy; but I'm very happy with my choice to go with BB.

Ultimately, no one else can make this decision for you, though. You just need to go to the store and try both out for a little bit.

357 · 04-03-2009, 11:48 AM

I agree with The Professor on "try before you buy". Touch screens are all the rage, but if you do a ton of text/e-mail composition then you need to make sure the touch keyboard is to your liking.

I have no trouble with mine but I don't send e-mail or texts all day. Probably 10-15 short ones per day.

Blueface · 04-03-2009, 12:36 PM

There are some keyboard improvements coming to iPhone with the new 3.0.
Will allow horizontal typing. I currently use Easy Writer as an application to initiate horizontal typing. Just can't respond to emails using that same format.

I had a hard time at first with it but within a short while, I now fly on it.
I also have multiple email addresses like one with Bellsouth.net.
That email address pushes my emails just like the mac.com one that has mobile me.
Furthermore, whatever I open and delete on my iPhone is deleted from that account on my laptop so I don't have to see the mail again and again.

goalie204 · 05-27-2009, 06:07 AM

still trying to figure this out. Thanks to everyone for the input...which just made it harder to decide!

GTsetGO · 05-27-2009, 06:18 AM

i have the BB Storm and love the thing. My pearl was nice, but the storm is just that much better.

8 gb of memory and is easily expandable to 16 by just changing the sd card in the phone. now that the app store is open, it has pretty much everything that the iphone has

dunng · 05-27-2009, 06:27 AM

BlackBerry all the way for me... the IPhone is a toy.

King James · 05-27-2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GTsetGO

i have the BB Storm and love the thing. My pearl was nice, but the storm is just that much better.

8 gb of memory and is easily expandable to 16 by just changing the sd card in the phone. now that the app store is open, it has pretty much everything that the iphone has

except wifi

The new blackberry storm comes out in a few months and looks pretty sweet. They made some nice improvements and got rid of that stupid (to me) clicking.

s15driftking · 05-27-2009, 08:13 AM

we should get specific when we talk BB's. The new storm is terrible, the slightly older curve is amazing.

The iphone will always be the iphone (top dawg).

I dont own either phone and if i were to get a new phone i would get an iphone ONLY if verizon carried it. so my choice would have to be a BB because i never plan on leaving VZW, nor do i care to hear opinions of why i should, etc

GTsetGO · 05-27-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by King James

except wifi

The new blackberry storm comes out in a few months and looks pretty sweet. They made some nice improvements and got rid of that stupid (to me) clicking.

my storm on the 3g network downloads data faster than my pearl did using wifi. so ehhh on the wifi.

King James · 05-27-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GTsetGO

my storm on the 3g network downloads data faster than my pearl did using wifi. so ehhh on the wifi.

except for all the wonderful apps that are wifi only...such as slingplayer. Such a great app, but who needs it ONLY in wifi. Or in the places were you can't get 3G because (at least in my area) ATT sucks. Same reason slingplayer makes no sense for the iphone.

The Storm was made to compete with the iphone and I don't think it can begin to do so until it has WiFi.

JE3146 · 05-27-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by King James

except for all the wonderful apps that are wifi only...such as slingplayer. Such a great app, but who needs it ONLY in wifi. Or in the places were you can't get 3G because (at least in my area) ATT sucks. Same reason slingplayer makes no sense for the iphone.

The Storm was made to compete with the iphone and I don't think it can begin to do so until it has WiFi.

That app applies to a very small group of people. Personally I'd take battery life over wifi.

goalie204 · 05-27-2009, 08:53 AM

is the storm the touchscreen one? If so i'm not interested. I want a physical keyboard, and both the newer and older model curves have it + wifi

JE3146 · 05-27-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by goalie204

is the storm the touchscreen one? If so i'm not interested. I want a physical keyboard, and both the newer and older model curves have it + wifi

Not all carriers carry the new curve. If they had, I would have went with the new curve or even the bold over the storm, but that wasn't an option. I went with the Storm due to it's improved features over the old curve. The touchscreen isn't 'That' bad. It has a high learning curve and a significant tolerance level. But it is manageable.

Thrak · 05-27-2009, 09:55 AM

Theres some misinformation in here.

They both have "push" emails.

Blackberry has a desktop redirector, BIS, or a BES.

iPhone uses ActiveSync just as a WinMo phone does, to connect to a corp Exchange server.

If this is going to be primarily a business connectivity device, the Blackberry wins HANDS DOWN.

If this is going to be a toy that you get emails on and some calendar/contact stuff to, then the iPhone wins.

So it really depends on:
1) what your primary purpose will be
2) which you type better on

Personally, with all the security issues with the iPhone, I'll be a BB guy for a LONG time.

04-03-2009, 06:16 AM	#41
The Professor i wish i was geRRy... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: geRRy Location: So*Cal... Posts: 1,703 Trading: (7)	Re: Blackberry or Iphone One other thing I forgot to suggest is that you should go try each out at the store. Some people REALLY like one interface or the other (touchscreen or physical kb) and the only way to really tell is to play with each ... ideally side-by-side. __________________ ~Dokk Join the CA Lottery (clicky). It's fun!!!

04-03-2009, 07:50 AM	#45
Pete Still Watching My Back Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Pete Location: Dan's Tavern Posts: 58 Trading: (0)	Re: Blackberry or Iphone I like my iPhone. Texting was a big cumbersome at first, but quickly mastered the touch screen. No probelm getting e-mails. They just pop up. Plus, it has that ubiquitous i-pod receptacle that can play your music damn near anywhere these days.

04-03-2009, 07:59 AM	#46
qwerty1500 Good thing I'm normal Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: One Particular Harbor Posts: 607 Trading: (0)	Re: Blackberry or Iphone Not real techy ... but Microsoft Exchange on the server at the office pushes, email, calendar changes and contact changes to my iPhone. In fact, I ususally receive them on my phone a few seconds before they appear on my desktop at our satellite office. The only app that I have to manually synch is my task list updates.

04-03-2009, 11:48 AM	#48
357 Will herf for food Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: Home is where I park it Posts: 4,075 Trading: (9)	Re: Blackberry or Iphone I agree with The Professor on "try before you buy". Touch screens are all the rage, but if you do a ton of text/e-mail composition then you need to make sure the touch keyboard is to your liking. I have no trouble with mine but I don't send e-mail or texts all day. Probably 10-15 short ones per day. __________________ “Eating and sleeping are the only activities that should be allowed to interrupt a man's enjoyment of his cigar;” Mark Twain

04-03-2009, 12:36 PM	#49
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: Blackberry or Iphone There are some keyboard improvements coming to iPhone with the new 3.0. Will allow horizontal typing. I currently use Easy Writer as an application to initiate horizontal typing. Just can't respond to emails using that same format. I had a hard time at first with it but within a short while, I now fly on it. I also have multiple email addresses like one with Bellsouth.net. That email address pushes my emails just like the mac.com one that has mobile me. Furthermore, whatever I open and delete on my iPhone is deleted from that account on my laptop so I don't have to see the mail again and again. __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

05-27-2009, 06:07 AM	#50
goalie204 Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Myles Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,659 Trading: (12)	Re: Blackberry or Iphone still trying to figure this out. Thanks to everyone for the input...which just made it harder to decide!

05-27-2009, 06:18 AM	#51
GTsetGO those were the droids Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Rob Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,686 Trading: (5)	Re: Blackberry or Iphone i have the BB Storm and love the thing. My pearl was nice, but the storm is just that much better. 8 gb of memory and is easily expandable to 16 by just changing the sd card in the phone. now that the app store is open, it has pretty much everything that the iphone has __________________ Modded Mustangs

05-27-2009, 06:27 AM	#52
dunng MassHole Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: MassHole Posts: 4,719 Trading: (59)	Re: Blackberry or Iphone BlackBerry all the way for me... the IPhone is a toy. __________________ MassHole Banter

05-27-2009, 08:13 AM	#54
s15driftking Go Browns! Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Bobby Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 2,763 Trading: (16)	Re: Blackberry or Iphone we should get specific when we talk BB's. The new storm is terrible, the slightly older curve is amazing. The iphone will always be the iphone (top dawg). I dont own either phone and if i were to get a new phone i would get an iphone ONLY if verizon carried it. so my choice would have to be a BB because i never plan on leaving VZW, nor do i care to hear opinions of why i should, etc __________________ diamonds/guns

05-27-2009, 08:53 AM	#58
goalie204 Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Myles Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,659 Trading: (12)	Re: Blackberry or Iphone is the storm the touchscreen one? If so i'm not interested. I want a physical keyboard, and both the newer and older model curves have it + wifi

05-27-2009, 09:55 AM	#60
Thrak .. the man from Nantucket Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canton, GA Posts: 558 Trading: (2)	Re: Blackberry or Iphone Theres some misinformation in here. They both have "push" emails. Blackberry has a desktop redirector, BIS, or a BES. iPhone uses ActiveSync just as a WinMo phone does, to connect to a corp Exchange server. If this is going to be primarily a business connectivity device, the Blackberry wins HANDS DOWN. If this is going to be a toy that you get emails on and some calendar/contact stuff to, then the iPhone wins. So it really depends on: 1) what your primary purpose will be 2) which you type better on Personally, with all the security issues with the iPhone, I'll be a BB guy for a LONG time.