Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees?

Sonic04GT · 10-08-2011, 12:35 PM

The coolest it gets in our house is 75 degrees, downstairs where I keep my humidor. It's usually around 80 up in the bedroom although it doesn't really feel that warm. I'd like to keep my humidor upstairs on my desk.

I know 75 is still a little warm for preventing cigar beetles, so, will it make a difference whether I keep it downstairs or upstairs?

Once it get's past 70 degrees, does the gradual increase in temperature indicate a gradual increase of beetle infestation?

Not serious enough to buy a wine cooler so right now I'll take my chances.

longknocker · 10-08-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonic04GT

The coolest it gets in our house is 75 degrees, downstairs where I keep my humidor. It's usually around 80 up in the bedroom although it doesn't really feel that warm. I'd like to keep my humidor upstairs on my desk.

I know 75 is still a little warm for preventing cigar beetles, so, will it make a difference whether I keep it downstairs or upstairs?

Once it get's past 70 degrees, does the gradual increase in temperature indicate a gradual increase of beetle infestation?

Not serious enough to buy a wine cooler so right now I'll take my chances.

Never Had A Beetle In My Sticks @ 75 Degrees Max In My Storage Area, But I Had Some @ 78.

Ogre · 10-08-2011, 12:47 PM

A difference of 5 degrees!!! J/K my humidor fluxulates between 70 and 80
Without a problem.

MrClean · 10-08-2011, 12:52 PM

Won't freezing the sticks properly eliminate the problem?
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gator_79 · 10-08-2011, 12:54 PM

My temp. fluctuates between 70 and 80 also, and I have never had a problem. I freeze everything when it comes in. Also I do watch my humidity and it maintains 64-66%.

Sonic04GT · 10-08-2011, 12:55 PM

I might need to look into freezing. I was too lazy to read the long thread on it.

Doesn't seem like too bad of a process. Just curious of the risks to damaging the cigars. Seems like a pretty thorough process.

MrClean · 10-08-2011, 01:05 PM

It's pretty simple. Fridge for 12 hours, freeze for 48 hours, fridge for 12, room temp for 4-6 hours, place in humidor. That's what I do in my fridge/freezer. The first entry in that thread gives you the temp/duration ratios. Put them in a ziplock freezer bag and push out as much air as possible.
It seems like a lot of work, but after seeing the damage they can do, I'll do the work every time.
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MrClean · 10-08-2011, 01:08 PM

I haven't had any damage and most say it doesn't affect the flavor. I think the biggest risk is wrapper splits, but if you do the fridge/freezer/fridge/room temp, it should minimize it. I've had wrapper issues with and without the freezing so I believe it's nil.
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Sonic04GT · 10-08-2011, 01:12 PM

Thanks, I might give that a try. I'm somewhat impatient but I'm not sure I want to risk trying it with all 32 of my cigars at once. I know that's not many but to me it is haha

Maybe throw a couple in and see what happens. That essentially turns it into a 6 day process though.

68TriShield · 10-08-2011, 01:20 PM

A constant 80 is pushing your luck,if not and it's not a big collection,I wouldn't worry about it.

Sonic04GT · 10-08-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 68TriShield

A constant 80 is pushing your luck,if not and it's not a big collection,I wouldn't worry about it.

It's a 50ct humidor so not a big collection but would of course be very upsetting. I'm going to be gone for a month soon so I won't be able to check them.

Unless I get a good size tupperware and bring most with me.

MrClean · 10-08-2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonic04GT

Unless I get a good size tupperware and bring most with me.

This.

Sonic04GT · 10-08-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MrClean

This.

Yeah I think I'm definitely going to do that. I usually don't like checking bags but lately I've been traveling with my handgun so I'm required to check one anyway. Why not bring the stogies along for a ride

10-09-2011, 06:35 AM

What is your RH at?? At those temps I would be concerned with mold as well.

DaBear · 10-09-2011, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonic04GT

Yeah I think I'm definitely going to do that. I usually don't like checking bags but lately I've been traveling with my handgun so I'm required to check one anyway. Why not bring the stogies along for a ride

I'd still put your smokes in your carry on. I don't trust the baggers to not throw my stuff around enough. They don't care about cigars being taken on the plane, I got through Canadian and US customs with them in my carry on and not a word was said.

68TriShield · 10-09-2011, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonic04GT

It's a 50ct humidor so not a big collection but would of course be very upsetting. I'm going to be gone for a month soon so I won't be able to check them.

Unless I get a good size tupperware and bring most with me.

Tupperware can and will over humidify.

Sonic04GT · 10-09-2011, 09:02 AM

Lol it's always something...

As for my RH, it's been all over the place lately but the end result I'm aiming for is 65-69%.

ktblunden · 10-09-2011, 02:29 PM

I recently decided to go through and freeze my entire stash (300+ sticks) and I did not have one cigar come out with a split wrapper. I went straight to the freezer for 72 hours, then 24 in the fridge, then a couple hours to get to room temp then back in the cooler. I've since avoided the fridge altogether, just going straight into the freezer, then out on the counter until it gets to room temperature. Still no problems. I triple bag them in ziplocks before putting them in.

It's really not much additional effort for peace of mind. I'd strongly suggest it if your temps are getting up around 80.

Sonic04GT · 10-09-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ktblunden

I recently decided to go through and freeze my entire stash (300+ sticks) and I did not have one cigar come out with a split wrapper. I went straight to the freezer for 72 hours, then 24 in the fridge, then a couple hours to get to room temp then back in the cooler. I've since avoided the fridge altogether, just going straight into the freezer, then out on the counter until it gets to room temperature. Still no problems. I triple bag them in ziplocks before putting them in.

It's really not much additional effort for peace of mind. I'd strongly suggest it if your temps are getting up around 80.

Yeah I think I just may do that. Thanks.

AlohaStyle · 10-09-2011, 04:05 PM

I would never let my cigars sit in a consistent 80 degree room. Keep it downstairs...

10-08-2011, 12:35 PM	#1
Sonic04GT Feeling at Home Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Chris Location: South Florida Posts: 643 Trading: (0)	Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? The coolest it gets in our house is 75 degrees, downstairs where I keep my humidor. It's usually around 80 up in the bedroom although it doesn't really feel that warm. I'd like to keep my humidor upstairs on my desk. I know 75 is still a little warm for preventing cigar beetles, so, will it make a difference whether I keep it downstairs or upstairs? Once it get's past 70 degrees, does the gradual increase in temperature indicate a gradual increase of beetle infestation? Not serious enough to buy a wine cooler so right now I'll take my chances.

10-08-2011, 12:47 PM	#3
Ogre **CENSORED** Join Date: Apr 2010 First Name: Larry Location: Central Florida Posts: 12,068 Trading: (46)	Re: Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? A difference of 5 degrees!!! J/K my humidor fluxulates between 70 and 80 Without a problem. __________________

10-08-2011, 12:52 PM	#4
MrClean Bald Man Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Jeff Location: KC MO Posts: 2,229 Trading: (28)	Re: Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? Won't freezing the sticks properly eliminate the problem? Posted via Mobile Device

10-08-2011, 12:54 PM	#5
gator_79 Still Watching My Back Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Robin Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 184 Trading: (3)	Re: Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? My temp. fluctuates between 70 and 80 also, and I have never had a problem. I freeze everything when it comes in. Also I do watch my humidity and it maintains 64-66%.

10-08-2011, 12:55 PM	#6
Sonic04GT Feeling at Home Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Chris Location: South Florida Posts: 643 Trading: (0)	Re: Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? I might need to look into freezing. I was too lazy to read the long thread on it. Doesn't seem like too bad of a process. Just curious of the risks to damaging the cigars. Seems like a pretty thorough process. Last edited by Sonic04GT; 10-08-2011 at 01:04 PM.

10-08-2011, 01:05 PM	#7
MrClean Bald Man Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Jeff Location: KC MO Posts: 2,229 Trading: (28)	Re: Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? It's pretty simple. Fridge for 12 hours, freeze for 48 hours, fridge for 12, room temp for 4-6 hours, place in humidor. That's what I do in my fridge/freezer. The first entry in that thread gives you the temp/duration ratios. Put them in a ziplock freezer bag and push out as much air as possible. It seems like a lot of work, but after seeing the damage they can do, I'll do the work every time. Posted via Mobile Device

10-08-2011, 01:08 PM	#8
MrClean Bald Man Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Jeff Location: KC MO Posts: 2,229 Trading: (28)	Re: Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? I haven't had any damage and most say it doesn't affect the flavor. I think the biggest risk is wrapper splits, but if you do the fridge/freezer/fridge/room temp, it should minimize it. I've had wrapper issues with and without the freezing so I believe it's nil. Posted via Mobile Device

10-08-2011, 01:12 PM	#9
Sonic04GT Feeling at Home Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Chris Location: South Florida Posts: 643 Trading: (0)	Re: Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? Thanks, I might give that a try. I'm somewhat impatient but I'm not sure I want to risk trying it with all 32 of my cigars at once. I know that's not many but to me it is haha Maybe throw a couple in and see what happens. That essentially turns it into a 6 day process though. Last edited by Sonic04GT; 10-08-2011 at 01:17 PM.

10-08-2011, 01:20 PM	#10
68TriShield Got Torque? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Maryland Posts: 7,184 Trading: (40)	Re: Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? A constant 80 is pushing your luck,if not and it's not a big collection,I wouldn't worry about it.

10-09-2011, 06:35 AM	#14
darkninja67 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? What is your RH at?? At those temps I would be concerned with mold as well.

10-09-2011, 09:02 AM	#17
Sonic04GT Feeling at Home Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Chris Location: South Florida Posts: 643 Trading: (0)	Re: Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? Lol it's always something... As for my RH, it's been all over the place lately but the end result I'm aiming for is 65-69%.

10-09-2011, 02:29 PM	#18
ktblunden Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Sep 2011 First Name: Kevin Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 350 Trading: (6)	Re: Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? I recently decided to go through and freeze my entire stash (300+ sticks) and I did not have one cigar come out with a split wrapper. I went straight to the freezer for 72 hours, then 24 in the fridge, then a couple hours to get to room temp then back in the cooler. I've since avoided the fridge altogether, just going straight into the freezer, then out on the counter until it gets to room temperature. Still no problems. I triple bag them in ziplocks before putting them in. It's really not much additional effort for peace of mind. I'd strongly suggest it if your temps are getting up around 80.

10-09-2011, 04:05 PM	#20
AlohaStyle Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Ryan Location: WA Posts: 1,168 Trading: (40)	Re: Any difference between 75 and 80 degrees? I would never let my cigars sit in a consistent 80 degree room. Keep it downstairs...