Angels in the Asylum

massphatness · 12-14-2009, 02:19 PM

This is a difficult post to put into words. It’s one of those “I love this place because …” posts. It’s about paying it forward, receiving with grace and realizing the goodness that really is out there in this world.

I learned about the Pay It Forward concept back in the days of Club Stogie; back before the Lowland Gorillas went up in a Puff and the place got overrun with top-hatted sea dwellers. During my early days on the site I was the recipient of a few bombs, gifts and other niceties. It was kinda’ like a game. You bomb me. I bomb you back. We post about the fun we were having. The bombs got bigger, and if I’m truthful, I came to crave the attention and notoriety that came with bombing and being bombed. Over a period of months though, I came to see that bombing for notoriety was not what bombing was supposed to be about. A bomb, to my new way of thinking, was an expression of friendship, brotherhood and appreciation from one to another. The notoriety that came with it was certainly unnecessary and often unwanted. I began to ask myself, “If I bomb this person, and they were not to post about it, would I do it anyway?” When the answer came back “yes”, I would follow through with sending the package. If I answered “no” – I didn’t send. My bombing pattern changed. I began sending out packages anonymously or using third parties to ship for me. I began to relish the whole concept of doing something for someone without them knowing it was me. No one knew, and no one had to know. It felt good just to do it. Sure, I’d still send stuff out occasionally where the recipient would know it was me that sent it, but often times, I’d ask the bomb not be posted. Why? Because the bomb wasn’t about me sending it; it was about the recipient.

The last few years have been kind to me. My needs have been met. I’m not independently wealthy (or any kind of wealthy for that matter), but neither do I struggle all that much. As such, I find myself in the position where I’ve been able to lend a hand here and there to someone where they’re low on cigars or pass a wish or maybe a guy could use a couple bucks to get through a rough stretch or do something to help a troop support effort or charitable cause someone on the board is running. Presently, I have more than enough cigars. Outside discontinued sticks or those that are prohibitively expensive, I find I can generally smoke what I want. I don’t NEED cigars. I don’t NEED people to send me cigars, and while I’m appreciative of the gesture when they do, I have also developed a certain discomfort with being on the receiving end. I have been quite happy and content in doing for others when I can, and because my stock is more than sufficient, I actually often feel guilty upon receiving something unexpected in the mail. It’s probably a psychological issue worthy of counseling, but it’s how I feel.

So why the long post? It’s background so you can understand the depth of humility and gratitude I’ve felt for this community over the last week or so.

I recently posted in the Thoughts & Prayers section for some good wishes to be sent to my ex-wife and my kids. Her live-in boyfriend left unexpectedly last week while she was at work. Long story short: he took everything he felt he was entitled to – from the living room set to kitchen appliances to the washer dryer to the bed and much more down to little things like cutlery and a coffee pot. My ex was devastated when she came home, and my teen-aged kids were shaken to have had this happen. It could have been worse. He could have left them with nothing. They still had a warm house and food to eat. The coward left them in an uncomfortable spot but not in a life-threatening one.

The thoughts and prayers poured in. A couple guys on here wanted to take it a step further and see if they could collect some donations to help my ex replace a few of the things that went missing. Reluctantly, I agreed . There was no way I could replace everything, and while I did what I could for her, I couldn’t do it all, so I had to swallow hard and accept the help. Being uncomfortable in the role of the one being helped created some anxiety for me, but I figured a) it was going to help my kids, and b) what’s the worst that could happen – maybe guys throw in a hundred or so bucks. I could live with that angst.

I was completely unprepared for the level of generosity I’ve witnessed.

PMs, P@yP@l contributions, gift cards, checks, offers of goods and services; it was mind-numbing, and it happened at a blistering fast pace. So fast that I couldn’t begin to try to thank people individually. I didn’t have the time to do everyone justice, and I didn’t want the generosity of this community to be sloughed off with a quick thanks.

Through this past weekend, over $700- in P@yP@l contributions have been made. They came in sizes large and small, but the thing that blew me away, was they came from people I don’t even have a passing acquaintance with. A guy who’s screen name I recognize but who I’ve never had any dealings with on any level sent $100-. And he wasn’t the only one. The $5, $10 and $20 “Wish I could do more” gifts – again from people I don’t know – moved me to tears. I literally cried. Amazing.

I was offered TWO sofas and a computer! There is a $250- gift card on the way to my ex so she can provide make sure there’s Christmas dinner on the table and presents under the tree. I’ve been told there are checks in route from guys who don’t have a PP account.

One brother bought my ex-wife a brand new stove. A new stove. I’m at a loss for words. I think I bought something from this guy in a WTS thread once. Never met him. Never spoken to him. Don’t hang out with him on line. He bought my ex a stove.

There ARE angels in the Asylum, ladies and gentlemen. They are you. I have so much love for this place my heart is bursting. I still cannot adequately express the depth of my gratitude to you all for helping during a time of crisis for my kids and their mom. When things have settled down, I plan to print out the thoughts and prayers thread as well as RevSmoke’s “Plea for Help” thread and all the responses. I’m going to organize those along with all the PM’s and emails I received and create a scrapbook for my kids and their mom. This has been a Christmas they will never forget, and I hope the scrapbook is something they’ll be able to look at from time to time and remember that angels exist and that there is far more good in the world than bad.

G G · 12-14-2009, 02:25 PM

This place is great aint it.

TripleF · 12-14-2009, 02:27 PM

Hard for me to even reply Vin......

It's amazing......it just is.

God bless you brother and the others on this board!

ade06 · 12-14-2009, 02:32 PM

I hope your family and you have a wonderful Christmas!

SmokeyJoe · 12-14-2009, 02:38 PM

Vin... you have stated well the reason why this simple "cigar forum" means so much to me. I first came to the "other board" because of cigars... I stayed and migrated here to CA for the very reasons you listed.

This place is a community... first and foremost. God bless all of those who stepped up - and God bless your family.

smokehouse · 12-14-2009, 02:40 PM

Truly amazing!!

This place never ceases to amaze me.

Merry Christmas to you and your family.

CasaDooley · 12-14-2009, 02:44 PM

This is why I refer to the Asylum as my "second home and family".

12-14-2009, 02:45 PM

Awesome to hear and I missed all of this because I haven't had so much time to peruse CA as I'd like. PM sent bud.

tenbaseg · 12-14-2009, 02:50 PM

Well said Vin. You are a true BOTL and deserving of it all. I hope your family has a Merry Christmas. God bless.

MarkinAZ · 12-14-2009, 02:51 PM

Cigar Asylum - humanity at its best Vin

PM sent...

14holestogie · 12-14-2009, 03:13 PM

After all the deposits you've made to the karma bank, it's nice to see you finally able to withdraw some.

It's what we do, and we are what we are because of good people like you. We've had the opportunity to be mentored by the best.

GKitty · 12-14-2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 14holestogie

After all the deposits you've made to the karma bank, it's nice to see you finally able to withdraw some.

Couldn't have said it better myself. This is is precisely.

Smokin Gator · 12-14-2009, 03:41 PM

Thanks for sharing Vin and my God continue to bless you and all of us here.

gettysburgfreak · 12-14-2009, 04:41 PM

God bless and prayers sent for your ex wife and her children. I cant imagine how difficult it must be on someone to have to go through something like that especially during the holidays. Your post sums up exactly what this place is all about.

cort · 12-14-2009, 04:46 PM

Awesome

colimo · 12-14-2009, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 14holestogie

After all the deposits you've made to the karma bank, it's nice to see you finally able to withdraw some.

It's what we do, and we are what we are because of good people like you. We've had the opportunity to be mentored by the best.

couldn't say it any better myself Vin....and whatever little we did, it wasn't enough....im sure we all wish we could do more...

but i hope it helped eas a difficult situation and brightened up your ex and kids holiday

spectrrr · 12-14-2009, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleF

Hard for me to even reply Vin......

It's amazing......it just is.

God bless you brother and the others on this board!

That sums it up. My eyes got a little watery thinking about the community here and what they did this time and in times past.

This is home, and I'm proud to call the folks here my extended family.

Thanks for sharing Vin!

12-14-2009, 05:42 PM

I am glad to be here! Godbless you and your Family

Moglman · 12-14-2009, 07:35 PM

Continued best wishes for Christine and the kids, Vin.

elderboy02 · 12-14-2009, 08:05 PM

Awesome stuff!

12-14-2009, 02:19 PM	#1
massphatness Where's my buffaloooo ... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Vin Location: MassHolia Posts: 12,688 Trading: (206)	Angels in the Asylum This is a difficult post to put into words. It’s one of those “I love this place because …” posts. It’s about paying it forward, receiving with grace and realizing the goodness that really is out there in this world. I learned about the Pay It Forward concept back in the days of Club Stogie; back before the Lowland Gorillas went up in a Puff and the place got overrun with top-hatted sea dwellers. During my early days on the site I was the recipient of a few bombs, gifts and other niceties. It was kinda’ like a game. You bomb me. I bomb you back. We post about the fun we were having. The bombs got bigger, and if I’m truthful, I came to crave the attention and notoriety that came with bombing and being bombed. Over a period of months though, I came to see that bombing for notoriety was not what bombing was supposed to be about. A bomb, to my new way of thinking, was an expression of friendship, brotherhood and appreciation from one to another. The notoriety that came with it was certainly unnecessary and often unwanted. I began to ask myself, “If I bomb this person, and they were not to post about it, would I do it anyway?” When the answer came back “yes”, I would follow through with sending the package. If I answered “no” – I didn’t send. My bombing pattern changed. I began sending out packages anonymously or using third parties to ship for me. I began to relish the whole concept of doing something for someone without them knowing it was me. No one knew, and no one had to know. It felt good just to do it. Sure, I’d still send stuff out occasionally where the recipient would know it was me that sent it, but often times, I’d ask the bomb not be posted. Why? Because the bomb wasn’t about me sending it; it was about the recipient. The last few years have been kind to me. My needs have been met. I’m not independently wealthy (or any kind of wealthy for that matter), but neither do I struggle all that much. As such, I find myself in the position where I’ve been able to lend a hand here and there to someone where they’re low on cigars or pass a wish or maybe a guy could use a couple bucks to get through a rough stretch or do something to help a troop support effort or charitable cause someone on the board is running. Presently, I have more than enough cigars. Outside discontinued sticks or those that are prohibitively expensive, I find I can generally smoke what I want. I don’t NEED cigars. I don’t NEED people to send me cigars, and while I’m appreciative of the gesture when they do, I have also developed a certain discomfort with being on the receiving end. I have been quite happy and content in doing for others when I can, and because my stock is more than sufficient, I actually often feel guilty upon receiving something unexpected in the mail. It’s probably a psychological issue worthy of counseling, but it’s how I feel. So why the long post? It’s background so you can understand the depth of humility and gratitude I’ve felt for this community over the last week or so. I recently posted in the Thoughts & Prayers section for some good wishes to be sent to my ex-wife and my kids. Her live-in boyfriend left unexpectedly last week while she was at work. Long story short: he took everything he felt he was entitled to – from the living room set to kitchen appliances to the washer dryer to the bed and much more down to little things like cutlery and a coffee pot. My ex was devastated when she came home, and my teen-aged kids were shaken to have had this happen. It could have been worse. He could have left them with nothing. They still had a warm house and food to eat. The coward left them in an uncomfortable spot but not in a life-threatening one. The thoughts and prayers poured in. A couple guys on here wanted to take it a step further and see if they could collect some donations to help my ex replace a few of the things that went missing. Reluctantly, I agreed . There was no way I could replace everything, and while I did what I could for her, I couldn’t do it all, so I had to swallow hard and accept the help. Being uncomfortable in the role of the one being helped created some anxiety for me, but I figured a) it was going to help my kids, and b) what’s the worst that could happen – maybe guys throw in a hundred or so bucks. I could live with that angst. I was completely unprepared for the level of generosity I’ve witnessed. PMs, P@yP@l contributions, gift cards, checks, offers of goods and services; it was mind-numbing, and it happened at a blistering fast pace. So fast that I couldn’t begin to try to thank people individually. I didn’t have the time to do everyone justice, and I didn’t want the generosity of this community to be sloughed off with a quick thanks. Through this past weekend, over $700- in P@yP@l contributions have been made. They came in sizes large and small, but the thing that blew me away, was they came from people I don’t even have a passing acquaintance with. A guy who’s screen name I recognize but who I’ve never had any dealings with on any level sent $100-. And he wasn’t the only one. The $5, $10 and $20 “Wish I could do more” gifts – again from people I don’t know – moved me to tears. I literally cried. Amazing. I was offered TWO sofas and a computer! There is a $250- gift card on the way to my ex so she can provide make sure there’s Christmas dinner on the table and presents under the tree. I’ve been told there are checks in route from guys who don’t have a PP account. One brother bought my ex-wife a brand new stove. A new stove. I’m at a loss for words. I think I bought something from this guy in a WTS thread once. Never met him. Never spoken to him. Don’t hang out with him on line. He bought my ex a stove. There ARE angels in the Asylum, ladies and gentlemen. They are you. I have so much love for this place my heart is bursting. I still cannot adequately express the depth of my gratitude to you all for helping during a time of crisis for my kids and their mom. When things have settled down, I plan to print out the thoughts and prayers thread as well as RevSmoke’s “Plea for Help” thread and all the responses. I’m going to organize those along with all the PM’s and emails I received and create a scrapbook for my kids and their mom. This has been a Christmas they will never forget, and I hope the scrapbook is something they’ll be able to look at from time to time and remember that angels exist and that there is far more good in the world than bad. __________________ *Help Support The Navy SEAL Foundation: HERE*

12-14-2009, 02:25 PM	#2
G G BR549 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Taylor, FL. Posts: 12,701 Trading: (10)	Re: Angels in the Asylum This place is great aint it.

12-14-2009, 02:27 PM	#3
TripleF 11/11/11 EPIC IV Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 5,626 Trading: (176)	Re: Angels in the Asylum Hard for me to even reply Vin...... It's amazing......it just is. God bless you brother and the others on this board! __________________ Cool Cigar Shirts, Stickers & More

12-14-2009, 02:32 PM	#4
ade06 Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Ade Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,190 Trading: (24)	Re: Angels in the Asylum I hope your family and you have a wonderful Christmas!

12-14-2009, 02:38 PM	#5
SmokeyJoe Chief Wannastogie Lounge Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Joe Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 3,160 Trading: (28)	Re: Angels in the Asylum Vin... you have stated well the reason why this simple "cigar forum" means so much to me. I first came to the "other board" because of cigars... I stayed and migrated here to CA for the very reasons you listed. This place is a community... first and foremost. God bless all of those who stepped up - and God bless your family. __________________ "I intend to smoke a good cigar to the glory of God..." ~ Charles H. Spurgeon, British Baptist preacher

12-14-2009, 02:40 PM	#6
smokehouse Hiding from Curly Cut Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 83 Trading: (0)	Re: Angels in the Asylum Truly amazing!! This place never ceases to amaze me. Merry Christmas to you and your family. __________________ A bad day hunting or fishing is better than a good day at work.

12-14-2009, 02:44 PM	#7
CasaDooley Herf Crew of 2 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kevin Location: The birthplace of Fathers Day Posts: 2,465 Trading: (41)	Re: Angels in the Asylum This is why I refer to the Asylum as my "second home and family". __________________ *Founding member of the Lilac City Dedicated Herfers*

12-14-2009, 02:45 PM	#8
mrreindeer Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Angels in the Asylum Awesome to hear and I missed all of this because I haven't had so much time to peruse CA as I'd like. PM sent bud.

12-14-2009, 02:50 PM	#9
tenbaseg Saying no to daily deals! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Garrett Location: Masshole Nation Posts: 1,094 Trading: (40)	Re: Angels in the Asylum Well said Vin. You are a true BOTL and deserving of it all. I hope your family has a Merry Christmas. God bless.

12-14-2009, 02:51 PM	#10
MarkinAZ Formerly MarkinOR Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Sun City West, AZ Posts: 6,220 Trading: (40)	Re: Angels in the Asylum Cigar Asylum - humanity at its best Vin PM sent... __________________ "Don't worry, God will work out His plan for your life..." Psalm 138 8

12-14-2009, 03:13 PM	#11
14holestogie Serial banter killer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Clintonville, WI Posts: 4,341 Trading: (52)	Re: Angels in the Asylum After all the deposits you've made to the karma bank, it's nice to see you finally able to withdraw some. It's what we do, and we are what we are because of good people like you. We've had the opportunity to be mentored by the best. __________________ *I loves me a Parti*

12-14-2009, 03:41 PM	#13
Smokin Gator Just plain insane! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Swamp Posts: 6,237 Trading: (106)	Re: Angels in the Asylum Thanks for sharing Vin and my God continue to bless you and all of us here. __________________ Check out the Cigar Asylum Newbie Sampler Trade

12-14-2009, 04:41 PM	#14
gettysburgfreak Patriot Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: The Mitten Posts: 1,442 Trading: (2)	Re: Angels in the Asylum God bless and prayers sent for your ex wife and her children. I cant imagine how difficult it must be on someone to have to go through something like that especially during the holidays. Your post sums up exactly what this place is all about. __________________ Author ofeath, Disease, and Life at War: The Civil War Letters of Surgeon James D. Benton, 111th and 98th New York Infantry Regiments, 1862-1865.

12-14-2009, 04:46 PM	#15
cort ◤◢◣◥ Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Gary Posts: 4,478 Trading: (41)	Re: Angels in the Asylum Awesome

12-14-2009, 05:42 PM	#18
TFULLERY Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Angels in the Asylum I am glad to be here! Godbless you and your Family

12-14-2009, 07:35 PM	#19
Moglman tongue tied and twisted Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Colorado Front Range Posts: 218 Trading: (7)	Re: Angels in the Asylum Continued best wishes for Christine and the kids, Vin. __________________ Moglman

12-14-2009, 08:05 PM	#20
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,496 Trading: (133)	Re: Angels in the Asylum Awesome stuff!