It's happend - Page 46

CigarDood · 01-27-2009, 06:03 AM

Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

DBall · 01-27-2009, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CigarDood

Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

I don't think that's anything relevant to here... the team of 11 are the only mods and I'm pretty confident that they know what they are doing. Hell... more posts at poof have been closed/deleted in the last month than in the prior year and a half the 11 were running the show over there.

SeanGAR · 01-27-2009, 06:29 AM

Well, I've decided to only go to that site on days when I'm wearing a brown shirt.
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I don't own a brown shirt.

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Originally Posted by DBall

I don't think that's anything relevant to here...

Exactly. The owners here are whats called "smart".

Blueface · 01-27-2009, 06:31 AM

WOW!!!
Ran off to see my favorite band, The Eagles, and I can't believe all that took place in between.

Dave and Tom banned.
I wonder if my access still works but won't dare go there.
Erased the link.

Hey, I got 4 points for posting a thread "No Drama/No Bashing" and it only contained freaking crickets.

After my response to the PM, can't imagine me being able to log back on at all.

poker · 01-27-2009, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CigarDood

Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

No worries. We have never really been heavy handed with moderating boards (unless we banned you before LOL).

DBall · 01-27-2009, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface

Dave and Tom banned.

Not banned, but had their password scrambled (also their emails changed so they can't reset the passwords, then lied to about it)... easily one of the most cowardly things I have seen done on cigar boards. Seriously, if you're going to ban someone, why not just be a man and ban them?

This speaks volumes of the new regime over there.

Again, things like this never happened under the 11 (and I'd feel safe saying they never would).

taltos · 01-27-2009, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

When the good lord was passing out brains, I have no clue where JC was.

He thought that the good lord said train so jc was trying to turn a profit selling bus tickets.

Da Klugs · 01-27-2009, 07:13 AM

Smart? Nah... well maybe the other 10. The pertinent difference is that we are products of the culture, got mentored by those that came before us, served as volunteers to something we loved, and have those burdens to balance against the desires we all get as humans to lash out when things get dicey. Probably the most important distinction is.. we came for the cigars, stayed for the friendships.

What we are seeing there is pretty straightforward. The reason for rules is to strike a balance between individual freedom of speech and the greater good of the community. When it's a community with reasonable rules designed to serve the community, that everyone can understand, if not agree with, the implementation and enforcement of the rules is mostly done by the members of the community. When it's a one man for profit show and the rules become fluid, there is no firm footing or moral ground to stand on and you end up with a business vs a community. Puffer fish? How about Customers?

As is on display in this situation, no one owns this community. The URL that houses it is of minor importance and as you all have demonstrated, is easily replaced for a pittance financially if those who serve it administratively get to full of them(our)selves.

floydpink · 01-27-2009, 07:56 AM

For some reason, I see little Jonnie Capoots running around sticking his thumb in the leak and trying in a panic to patch the next one that is springing up next to it, all the while telling his admiring wife that he has it under control.

01-27-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanGAR

Well, I've decided to only go to that site on days when I'm wearing a brown shirt.
.
.
.
I don't own a brown shirt.

Exactly. The owners here are whats called "smart".

Does khaki count?

taltos · 01-27-2009, 08:04 AM

I would hate to think that anybody would write jc's advertisers and advise them on how well their advertising dollars are being spent.

Blueface · 01-27-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by taltos

I would hate to think that anybody would write jc's advertisers and advise them on how well their advertising dollars are being spent.

I know one of those advertisers personally.
He has been warned.

chippewastud79 · 01-27-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface

I know one of those advertisers personally.
He has been warned.

Now if we can just warn the other 4308274 advertisers he has paying for the site.

King James · 01-27-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Now if we can just warn the other 4308274 advertisers he has paying for the site.

Don't tell the cheese guys... I'm waiting for some good deals

replicant_argent · 01-27-2009, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by King James

Don't tell the cheese guys... I'm waiting for some good deals

You live in Cheeseland, you should be able to get it for cost.

Scottw · 01-27-2009, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by King James

Don't tell the cheese guys... I'm waiting for some good deals

the cheese guys, that's great!

Asher · 01-27-2009, 09:06 AM

Ah, heck: "You have been banned for the following reason: drama

Date the ban will be lifted: Never"

Probably because I dinged joncaputo's RG for one of his less-than-friendly posts . . .

icehog3 · 01-27-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Asher

Ah, heck: "You have been banned for the following reason: drama

Date the ban will be lifted: Never"

Probably because I dinged joncaputo's RG for one of his less-than-friendly posts . . .

No worries, I am guessing RG will be reset within the next few weeks.

King James · 01-27-2009, 09:10 AM

Well apparently anything anybody does that goes against the past/present/future feelings, thoughts, ideas, plans of Jon Caputo gets filed away as drama and will likely result in you being banned.

HOWEVER, if you would like to stay..... all you must do is kiss his ass in a few threads and express your support for him publicly...heck, maybe you can even become a future mod if you ass kiss enough

Stay classy

taltos · 01-27-2009, 09:12 AM

I would not be surprised if I get banned for posts made here.

01-27-2009, 06:03 AM	#901
CigarDood Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DC Posts: 311 Trading: (9)	Re: It's happening Heavy-moderation is doing more harm than good and will continue to drive people away. That's actually a good lesson for us here at CA to remember.

01-27-2009, 06:31 AM	#904
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: It's happening WOW!!! Ran off to see my favorite band, The Eagles, and I can't believe all that took place in between. Dave and Tom banned. I wonder if my access still works but won't dare go there. Erased the link. Hey, I got 4 points for posting a thread "No Drama/No Bashing" and it only contained freaking crickets. After my response to the PM, can't imagine me being able to log back on at all. __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

01-27-2009, 07:13 AM	#908
Da Klugs Juan of 11 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Right here Posts: 4,219 Trading: (8)	Re: It's happening Smart? Nah... well maybe the other 10. The pertinent difference is that we are products of the culture, got mentored by those that came before us, served as volunteers to something we loved, and have those burdens to balance against the desires we all get as humans to lash out when things get dicey. Probably the most important distinction is.. we came for the cigars, stayed for the friendships. What we are seeing there is pretty straightforward. The reason for rules is to strike a balance between individual freedom of speech and the greater good of the community. When it's a community with reasonable rules designed to serve the community, that everyone can understand, if not agree with, the implementation and enforcement of the rules is mostly done by the members of the community. When it's a one man for profit show and the rules become fluid, there is no firm footing or moral ground to stand on and you end up with a business vs a community. Puffer fish? How about Customers? As is on display in this situation, no one owns this community. The URL that houses it is of minor importance and as you all have demonstrated, is easily replaced for a pittance financially if those who serve it administratively get to full of them(our)selves. __________________ Communities Not Commodities. Punctuation challenged, but trying. Proud winner of phase 1 of the Weight loss contest

01-27-2009, 07:56 AM	#909
floydpink crazy diamond Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Pete Location: Orlando Posts: 1,955 Trading: (17)	Re: It's happening For some reason, I see little Jonnie Capoots running around sticking his thumb in the leak and trying in a panic to patch the next one that is springing up next to it, all the while telling his admiring wife that he has it under control. __________________ "If we weren't all crazy we would go insane"

01-27-2009, 08:04 AM	#911
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: It's happening I would hate to think that anybody would write jc's advertisers and advise them on how well their advertising dollars are being spent.

01-27-2009, 09:06 AM	#917
Asher Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 69 Trading: (1)	Re: It's happening Ah, heck: "You have been banned for the following reason: drama Date the ban will be lifted: Never" Probably because I dinged joncaputo's RG for one of his less-than-friendly posts . . .

01-27-2009, 09:10 AM	#919
King James Regard Me! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jim Location: Dark Side Of The Moon Posts: 2,565 Trading: (2)	Re: It's happening Well apparently anything anybody does that goes against the past/present/future feelings, thoughts, ideas, plans of Jon Caputo gets filed away as drama and will likely result in you being banned. HOWEVER, if you would like to stay..... all you must do is kiss his ass in a few threads and express your support for him publicly...heck, maybe you can even become a future mod if you ass kiss enough Stay classy __________________ Mob Herfin' Since 2006

01-27-2009, 09:12 AM	#920
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: It's happening I would not be surprised if I get banned for posts made here.