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Old 11-28-2011, 11:47 PM   #1
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Default Winter outside heater recommendations?

Winter is arriving and I've go a great little makeshift mancave setup outside in a little uninsulated shed. Well, it would be great, if it had a heater!

I haven't measured the shed, but it's probably not more than 11x9x8, and really only 1/2 of the shed needs to be warm.

Quick startup is needed - I'm not going to turn it on and come back in 45 minutes. (so a fan is probably in order... but maybe not?)

Electric would be preferred, less things to worry about. Given that I'm smoking right next to the main breaker box for the property, getting a good power feed to it won't be a problem (electric may be too $$ to buy however)

Heater can (and will) be positioned somewhat close to me. I can't physically put it more than 4 feet from me.

$PRICE$ is a factor. I'm not worried about operational costs, as it won't be used ever day. But for the initial unit, price needs to be low! ideally less than $100.
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:31 AM   #2
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Winter is arriving and I've go a great little makeshift mancave setup outside in a little uninsulated shed. Well, it would be great, if it had a heater!

I haven't measured the shed, but it's probably not more than 11x9x8, and really only 1/2 of the shed needs to be warm.

Quick startup is needed - I'm not going to turn it on and come back in 45 minutes. (so a fan is probably in order... but maybe not?)

Electric would be preferred, less things to worry about. Given that I'm smoking right next to the main breaker box for the property, getting a good power feed to it won't be a problem (electric may be too $$ to buy however)

Heater can (and will) be positioned somewhat close to me. I can't physically put it more than 4 feet from me.

$PRICE$ is a factor. I'm not worried about operational costs, as it won't be used ever day. But for the initial unit, price needs to be low! ideally less than $100.
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:48 AM   #3
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I use the round electric radiant heater,even in my 2 car garage it warms me fine and fast.
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:56 AM   #4
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Default Re: Winter outside heater recommendations?

Kerosene radiant heater for me, although you may be too confined in that small an area. I use mine in a 3-plus car garage and use it hours on end with no noticable effects.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:04 AM   #5
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This is what I use, it works well in a small area. The nice thing is it doesn't get HOT, so you can sit right next to it if you want. Sounds like what you are looking for.

I bought it from Sears and I think it was much less than advertised in this link (Like $75):
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...&blockType=G92
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:08 AM   #6
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Default Re: Winter outside heater recommendations?

Girlfriend and I put electric one on either side of us (one round, one vertical) and works pretty good. Round one is better heater and oscillates. Howver, the light coming off the reflector is REALLY bright. PITA sometimes when pointed right at you.


Was seriously considering a tabletop kerosene umbrella-type patio heater for this winter, though. Saw one the other day for $60.

Threadjack alert...... Anyone know if you can change the 'input' to take large grill-size bottles instead of the little camp-stove style?
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:29 AM   #7
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Girlfriend and I put electric one on either side of us (one round, one vertical) and works pretty good. Round one is better heater and oscillates. Howver, the light coming off the reflector is REALLY bright. PITA sometimes when pointed right at you.


Was seriously considering a tabletop kerosene umbrella-type patio heater for this winter, though. Saw one the other day for $60.

Threadjack alert...... Anyone know if you can change the 'input' to take large grill-size bottles instead of the little camp-stove style?
Just search for one that is built to connect to a propane tank. I use a round one that connects to a propane tank. Works really well in an enclosed area.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:44 AM   #8
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Girlfriend and I put electric one on either side of us (one round, one vertical) and works pretty good. Round one is better heater and oscillates. Howver, the light coming off the reflector is REALLY bright. PITA sometimes when pointed right at you.


Was seriously considering a tabletop kerosene umbrella-type patio heater for this winter, though. Saw one the other day for $60.

Threadjack alert...... Anyone know if you can change the 'input' to take large grill-size bottles instead of the little camp-stove style?
Yes you can... heres an adapter, hook it up and viola, runs on a full tank... that was actually my suggestion table top propane and the hose... works great!
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:57 AM   #9
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I like the contractor style propane heater, I use them off of a 20lb tank, lasts a while
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:23 PM   #10
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Default Re: Winter outside heater recommendations?

I have one of these parabolic heaters from Costco:



Works really well indoors. For outdoors I have a couple of propane heaters.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:27 PM   #11
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Default Re: Winter outside heater recommendations?

This is one of the ones that I have. I like this one a lot.

http://www.target.com/p/Honeywell-Co...r/-/A-12821920



$6309 online from Target but I got mine in store for $55.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:56 PM   #12
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Default Re: Winter outside heater recommendations?

Basically two options. Electric or propane. Both have their disadvantages, with electric, your meter will spin because anything that gives decent heat will use 1500w or more. Propane needs some ventilation to avoid carbon monoxide poisoning.

Adam posted these propane heaters that are a good deal. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=51402
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:59 PM   #13
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Default Re: Winter outside heater recommendations?

I'm not sure a 1500W (~5200btu) heater is probably not going to cut it out there. Can get kinda drafty. I tried an old 800W radiant heater i had, and it was barely keeping things comfortable when the outside temp was 50f. I'd like to relax and enjoy my cigar in toasty warmth

What about something like this? http://www.heater-store.com/original..._medium=Google
Looks simple, warm... BUT will ventilation be a problem? It's about as well ventilated as a garage...

Also, could a unit like that be moved out to my barn and used to keep a small area habitable in the winter while I was working? (dual purpose is always a plus)
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:02 PM   #14
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Basically two options. Electric or propane. Both have their disadvantages, with electric, your meter will spin because anything that gives decent heat will use 1500w or more. Propane needs some ventilation to avoid carbon monoxide poisoning.

Adam posted these propane heaters that are a good deal. http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=51402
Thanks for the link! tempting....

BIIIIIG Question - HOW MUCH ventilation is needed?
I CAN crack a window.... but erm, doesn't that defeat the purpose, requiring you to run a much higher output heater, and thus, NOT saving any of your money?
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Those parabolic radiant heaters are great but they through off a ton of heat. For the size space you're talking about, I'd recommend a ceramic heater. You can find a tower type or one of the boxy ones at Target or Home Depot for under $30
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Those parabolic radiant heaters are great but they through off a ton of heat. For the size space you're talking about, I'd recommend a ceramic heater. You can find a tower type or one of the boxy ones at Target or Home Depot for under $30
Can I just turn it on low?

I can very much justify spending a couple extra bucks on a higher output heater if I can make a secondary use of it in the barn. I've got some projects out there I've got to get done this winter... a little warmth would be nice
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You can turn down the volume of gas on a propane heater. Cracking a window should be sufficient ventilation but to be sure I would invest an extra $20 in a battery powered carbon monoxide detector. Better to wake up to a screaming detector than to not wake up at all.
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Can I just turn it on low?

I can very much justify spending a couple extra bucks on a higher output heater if I can make a secondary use of it in the barn. I've got some projects out there I've got to get done this winter... a little warmth would be nice
Sounds ideal for the barn project, but those propane heaters really do put out serious heat. If you can't get further than 4 feet away you may want to reconsider, or wear shorts and a tank top. I saw some women huddled around one at a soccer game this last week but it was outdoors. You can't turn them down too low or they will go out on you, more so if it's drafty.
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:45 PM   #19
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Default Re: Winter outside heater recommendations?

check this patio heater out, on sale at Costco, the tank top heaters are OK, but the heat goes up and not very far out. The patio type reflect heat down and seem to work a bit better.

edit: apparently I can't read, you wanted one for under $100 and the patio design is probably not what you are after, but I'll leave the post anyway in case someone can benefit from the sale at Costco.
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technically it only has to heat 1/3 of the room... the block of space occupied by my chair...

I wonder if a couple of these close by would do it... one for the feet and one for the torso? http://www.amazon.com/Optimus-H-4110...2602966&sr=8-1


something like this is bigger and looks like it would do it... but I have a feeling my feet would freeze http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...=1&topnav=&s=1
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