Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions. - Page 2

e-man67 · 08-11-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

That'd drive me out of my mind.

They squeal when they glaze...take the unused pad and rough it up on the concrete before you put them on...just make a few circles...U can also use anti-squeal.

St. Lou Stu · 08-11-2009, 11:19 AM

Welp I was a GM tech for 9 years and couldn't stand any of the OE pads that they used.
Ceramic are decent, not too overpriced, but will shorten the life of the rotors (hardly noticable though).

I would go with a ceramic personally.

Buy here... http://www.rockauto.com/
Even with shipping they are still usually cheaper and have GREAT customer service.

shilala · 08-11-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu

Welp I was a GM tech for 9 years and couldn't stand any of the OE pads that they used.
Ceramic are decent, not too overpriced, but will shorten the life of the rotors (hardly noticable though).

I would go with a ceramic personally.

Buy here... http://www.rockauto.com/
Even with shipping they are still usually cheaper and have GREAT customer service.

I got Raybestos Professional Grade Plus Ceramic. Same kind that was on it. Only cost me 60 bucks out the door for the front axle.

Now if it wasn't thunderstorming, I'd roll around and put them on.
I think I'll call my little brother and get him to do it for me.

St. Lou Stu · 08-11-2009, 01:55 PM

That's what little brothers are for, eh?

shilala · 08-11-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu

That's what little brothers are for, eh?

You betcha.

Hitagain · 08-11-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DBall

Use a few gurkhas...

They wear too quickly and make your car smell funny.......

mosesbotbol · 08-12-2009, 04:40 AM

I put Akebono's on my Jag and they are quiet and very low dusting. They are not the ultimate gripping power, but no complaints.

shilala · 08-12-2009, 06:26 AM

I am now going to attempt to put the pads on the Envoy.
I'm going to try to keep count of how many times I curse. I need a ruling on this, though. Do the curse words I don't say out loud count?

e-man67 · 08-12-2009, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

I am now going to attempt to put the pads on the Envoy.
I'm going to try to keep count of how many times I curse. I need a ruling on this, though. Do the curse words I don't say out loud count?

You won't have a problem...just 2 bolts for the brake caliper, remove caliper from atop rotor, remove old pads, compress piston on caliper with c-clamp, slide or clip pads in, slide caliper back over rotor, insert caliper bolts again,Done! repeat other side!

okieRob · 08-12-2009, 06:51 AM

I put a set of ceramics on my truck for the first time a couple of months ago and I have been very happy with them. Around here most of the part stores offer a lifetime warranty on their parts. I'm the type to keep a vehicle for years and years so I don't mind paying a little more for the pads one time. If I wear them out I'll get a second set at no charge.

Using a C-clamp - why didn't I think of that?

I used a huge pair of channel lock pliers to apply slow and steady pressure until veins were popping out of my forehead.

- Rob

kenstogie · 08-12-2009, 07:05 AM

FWIW a couple point.... on my old Nissan Rear Disc Brakes you have to TURN the Piston on the caliper in not just push it so watch out for that AND garages mark up the price of parts also to pad the bottom line it pretty common place though.`

shilala · 08-12-2009, 07:44 AM

That took a whole hour and ten minutes.
Zero curses, lost no brake fluid at all, took it for a ride, and stopped at the audio store down the street to look for an all-in-one nav unit/dvd/stereo.
You guys saved me 250 bucks.
Thank You!!!

shilala · 08-12-2009, 07:47 AM

My calipers had two pistons. I used my wood clamps. I drew one down, pulled that clamp off, used a smaller slamp to hold it, and then used the larger clamp to draw down the other.
Popped them both off and threw them aside. Took ten seconds or so.

St. Lou Stu · 08-12-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

My calipers had two pistons. I used my wood clamps. I drew one down, pulled that clamp off, used a smaller slamp to hold it, and then used the larger clamp to draw down the other.
Popped them both off and threw them aside. Took ten seconds or so.

Nice!
sounds like your ready to start a side bidness

For future reference, don't take the inner (piston side) pad off. Use it to clamp on and apply pressure to both pistons at once compressing them both back home all at once.

Don't ya love time saving tips after the fact?

shilala · 08-12-2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu

Nice!
sounds like your ready to start a side bidness

For future reference, don't take the inner (piston side) pad off. Use it to clamp on and apply pressure to both pistons at once compressing them both back home all at once.

Don't ya love time saving tips after the fact?

All I did is used my big wood clamps to draw back the caliper enough to pull it off the pad assembly. The padd assmbly stayed laying on the rotor. That took three seconds.
The caliper compression deal only took ten seconds.
The big slow down in the whole deal was that both my 3/8 and 1/2 Craftsman wratchets are shot. I fought with them the whole way.
I will be going to Sears to have them replaced today.
Maybe right now, as a matter of fact.
I have to get some ice on, eat some more pills, apply my tens unit, and do some praying first cause my back is trying to kill me and if they give me any sh!t at Sears I'm likely to have some sort of philosophical disagreement that ends up with bloodshed and jail time.

TheTraveler · 08-12-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

... and if they give me any sh!t at Sears I'm likely to have some sort of philosophical disagreement that ends up with bloodshed and jail time.

I've offered my steel toe boots (with me in them) up for service to Al if any butt or nad kicking is needed with the insurance company. Give me a holler if the guy at Sears gives you any lip!

aich75013 · 08-12-2009, 08:57 AM

Sounds like it went okay. Great to hear.

Last time I replaced a few ratchets at Sears, they were very nice. They gave me refurbished ones, but that was okay with me.

shilala · 08-12-2009, 09:46 AM

I got my wratchets, no problem whatsoever.
Didn't need to sign a paper, get a receipt, and the kid never got off the phone till we were almost done.
Then he saw my ipod touch and we talked about that. He has the same one.
He hates Verizon Wireless and is switching to AT&T so he can get an iPhone, too.

lightning9191 · 08-12-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

I got my wratchets, no problem whatsoever.
Didn't need to sign a paper, get a receipt, and the kid never got off the phone till we were almost done.
Then he saw my ipod touch and we talked about that. He has the same one.
He hates Verizon Wireless and is switching to AT&T so he can get an iPhone, too.

You gonna adopt him?

shilala · 08-12-2009, 10:13 AM

One last observation and I'll shut up about my brakes (maybe)...
The old pads were only about half gone. They'd have easily got another 20 or 30k on them.
The difference in stopping power is HUGE with the new pads on.
I just put new tires on it about a month ago, now the new brakes up front, plus the rotors turned Monday, and man, does it stop way better. Takes a lot less effort on the brake pedal, too.
Plus it doesn't shimmy anymore when I stop and I bought the expensive tires so they oughta last a long time, plus they're silent.
I couldn't be more pleased with the whole experience.

08-11-2009, 11:19 AM	#22
St. Lou Stu Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Belleville, IL (St. Louis) Posts: 2,304 Trading: (21)	Re: Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions. Welp I was a GM tech for 9 years and couldn't stand any of the OE pads that they used. Ceramic are decent, not too overpriced, but will shorten the life of the rotors (hardly noticable though). I would go with a ceramic personally. Buy here... http://www.rockauto.com/ Even with shipping they are still usually cheaper and have GREAT customer service. __________________ Pretending to play golf since 1989

08-11-2009, 01:55 PM	#24
St. Lou Stu Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Belleville, IL (St. Louis) Posts: 2,304 Trading: (21)	Re: Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions. That's what little brothers are for, eh? __________________ Pretending to play golf since 1989

08-12-2009, 04:40 AM	#27
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions. I put Akebono's on my Jag and they are quiet and very low dusting. They are not the ultimate gripping power, but no complaints. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

08-12-2009, 06:26 AM	#28
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions. I am now going to attempt to put the pads on the Envoy. I'm going to try to keep count of how many times I curse. I need a ruling on this, though. Do the curse words I don't say out loud count? __________________

08-12-2009, 06:51 AM	#30
okieRob Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: I'm not telling Location: The Land in the Middle Posts: 153 Trading: (6)	Re: Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions. I put a set of ceramics on my truck for the first time a couple of months ago and I have been very happy with them. Around here most of the part stores offer a lifetime warranty on their parts. I'm the type to keep a vehicle for years and years so I don't mind paying a little more for the pads one time. If I wear them out I'll get a second set at no charge. Using a C-clamp - why didn't I think of that? I used a huge pair of channel lock pliers to apply slow and steady pressure until veins were popping out of my forehead. - Rob

08-12-2009, 07:05 AM	#31
kenstogie following the whiterabbit Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 1,325 Trading: (3)	Re: Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions. FWIW a couple point.... on my old Nissan Rear Disc Brakes you have to TURN the Piston on the caliper in not just push it so watch out for that AND garages mark up the price of parts also to pad the bottom line it pretty common place though.`

08-12-2009, 07:44 AM	#32
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions. That took a whole hour and ten minutes. Zero curses, lost no brake fluid at all, took it for a ride, and stopped at the audio store down the street to look for an all-in-one nav unit/dvd/stereo. You guys saved me 250 bucks. Thank You!!! __________________

08-12-2009, 07:47 AM	#33
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions. My calipers had two pistons. I used my wood clamps. I drew one down, pulled that clamp off, used a smaller slamp to hold it, and then used the larger clamp to draw down the other. Popped them both off and threw them aside. Took ten seconds or so. __________________

08-12-2009, 08:57 AM	#37
aich75013 Feeling at Home Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Adrian Location: Allen, TX Posts: 774 Trading: (25)	Re: Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions. Sounds like it went okay. Great to hear. Last time I replaced a few ratchets at Sears, they were very nice. They gave me refurbished ones, but that was okay with me.

08-12-2009, 09:46 AM	#38
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions. I got my wratchets, no problem whatsoever. Didn't need to sign a paper, get a receipt, and the kid never got off the phone till we were almost done. Then he saw my ipod touch and we talked about that. He has the same one. He hates Verizon Wireless and is switching to AT&T so he can get an iPhone, too. __________________

08-12-2009, 10:13 AM	#40
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions. One last observation and I'll shut up about my brakes (maybe)... The old pads were only about half gone. They'd have easily got another 20 or 30k on them. The difference in stopping power is HUGE with the new pads on. I just put new tires on it about a month ago, now the new brakes up front, plus the rotors turned Monday, and man, does it stop way better. Takes a lot less effort on the brake pedal, too. Plus it doesn't shimmy anymore when I stop and I bought the expensive tires so they oughta last a long time, plus they're silent. I couldn't be more pleased with the whole experience. __________________