Work on a Cruise ship? - Page 2

Malakai · 07-23-2012, 06:27 PM

I would ask about the hours of work and how it varies...it says you have to work some hours every day. I would ask how those hours are divided amongst the staff they have on board. Such as most senior to least...meaning you would probably work during the late nights or possibly work while the ship was in port and not get a chance to get out. Or do they vary them so that everyone would get a chance to get out on a port of call.

LockOut · 07-23-2012, 09:23 PM

This is my list of "stuff" to inquire about during my interview tomorrow. Anyone have anything they think should be added to it.

• What’s the on board medical direction like.
• Define shipboard 911
• Working with a nurse or doctor outside the “clinic”
• What monitors do they use.
• Clinic entails what, on bord capabilities are.
• Shipboard firefighting
• More information about working every day, time on vs time off. Allowed to get off the boat.
• More information about being staff vs crew.
• Job process from here including training in Aug.
• 4month on 2 month off pay
• Salary/benefits

kydsid · 07-24-2012, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silound

Disclaimer: I have NO experience working for a cruise line, so this is my observations only.

Reading that FAQ, I see a lot of well-worded roundabouts to the questions. "...in deference to our paying guests and in accordance with on board regulations" sounds suspiciously like "not gonna happen." I'm just paranoid but, I would find out more from a reliable source inside before I'd commit to that.

Free opinion, worth what you paid for it

That isn't that far from the truth AFAIK. While I never worked on one either I was in and around a lot of Cruise ships for several years. My understanding is that certain passenger areas are ALWAYS off limits to everyone who isn't on duty in that area. The big one on the list is almost always the casino. It's pretty easy to understand why it would be a bad idea to let off duty personnel gamble, and/or be seen as taking money from the guests.

kydsid · 07-24-2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockOut

Allowed to get off the boat.

Keep in mind that will not always be within the countrol of the company. Crew being allowed off of a vessel is dependent upon the Immigration authority of the port country and the nationality of the particular crew member, plus any visas that crew member might have. You first need to talk with them if they will let you off and then make sure you can legally do so, and look into the port of calls.

As a USC you could get reciprocal, visa free travel to the following countries: http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/tem...html#countries

However the VWP is a grey area when you arrive as crew. It is up to the local Immigration authority to allow you too use a VWP entry, they can deny it.

CigarNut · 07-24-2012, 07:42 AM

Good luck Tom -- this could be a really cool opportunity!

OLS · 07-24-2012, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silound

Disclaimer: I have NO experience working for a cruise line, so this is my observations only.

Reading that FAQ, I see a lot of well-worded roundabouts to the questions. "...in deference to our paying guests and in accordance with on board regulations" sounds suspiciously like "not gonna happen." I'm just paranoid but, I would find out more from a reliable source inside before I'd commit to that.

Call me "I'm with Stupid 2" on this one. Everything is worded carefully in that manner that makes you
come to the conclusion Silound did. Maybe it's our Louisiana tendency to doubt people when they blow
smoke, but I also read trouble in that "can I leave the ship" question. Their answer in so many words
tells me, "Fat chance, rookie...all of our long-standing employees have whores in town that they like to
visit, and you will be covering for them while they frolic. You can get off at Guatemala, where no one
wants to touch the wiimmenz, eat the food or touch the bathrooms....that'll be YOUR TIME."

Now because you are a good married boy, I am sure you will love the ship and your cabin. You will enjoy
the scraps the fat Americans leave behind at the buffet (in deference to our guests) and will enjoy the
worst table in the theater, the one that won't stay level and still. But being as times are tough, even
some weird jobs are looking pretty great. I am just having fun with their little FAQ..

FriendlyMan · 07-24-2012, 08:43 AM

If I was you, I'd read up a lot on Sea & Motion Sickness. Find as much as remedies as possible. Besides knowing your regular EMT Paramedic knowledge. I'm sure the more you know about that will help you. just my 2 cents.

LockOut · 07-25-2012, 10:28 AM

Well got the typical and standard impersonal rejection letter today, so back to being 100% unemployed. god this sucks. I wish these people would at least tell me what i need to do to do better. Although i love the past couple of interviews I have had where i get told I am too over qualified for the job and they won't hire me because they are afraid i will over think the position.

massphatness · 07-25-2012, 10:45 AM

boooooooooooooo

Ogre · 07-25-2012, 11:05 AM

Sorry to hear this brother. Hope something comes along soon.

CigarNut · 07-25-2012, 11:12 AM

Sorry to hear this Tom. Even though you got a letter you might try giving them a call to find out why they did not offer you the position. Sometimes you get an HR person or hiring manager who is willing to help you out.

jonumberone · 07-25-2012, 11:49 AM

SUX!!!!!!

Sorry, Tom!

Dave128 · 07-25-2012, 11:54 AM

That sucks! Keep your chin up, Brother. Something will come along your way.

markem · 07-25-2012, 12:11 PM

Sorry that it fell through. But I imagine that they received many, many resumes.

I have a friend who is an EMT with a fire department in Alaska. During the tourist season, he is assigned full time to the cruise ship docks. He has indicated that while he likes the duty, many do not. He is passing through Oregon this week (he is from Astoria) and I'm trying to get him to drop by for cigars. If he does, I'll poke him about possible EMT slots in Alaska, esp. with the cruise ship industry. He may (or may not) have contacts to share.

Around here, it is getting harder and harder for a non-paramedic to get a gig unless they are also a firefighter.

OLS · 07-25-2012, 12:32 PM

Lucky you, man....being without a job we all know just sux. But that job would have killed you. I have taken the
WORST jobs in my career out of sheer desperation. I had one promotions job for 9 months. I told the boss he was
kind of an a55hole and that I WANTED to be good at promotions but it was clear that I was not good at it. I basically
had to make a news promo or three every day and people made no effort to get me the footage I needed, my scripts were
picked apart, everything I did was looked at through this lens of "there really IS a perfect way to do everything, find it."

I didn't buy it. HE DID hire me out of the situation you are in now, and I thought then I would do ANYTHING to get
back to work. Apparently not ANYTHING.

My idea for you might sound trite, but these days its about the only way to find a job. MAKE a position for yourself.
I sent a commercial to a guy who owns a pest control company in town, just wanting to sell him the ad for $750.
I wanted to work in my pajamas from home. But when he offered me a job doing all his advertising and promotions
it was JUST starting to get bad, about 5-6 years ago. I took the job. You might need to find a company that
doesn't yet KNOW they need your skills and convince them that they DO. Daycare chain, large manufacturer,
school system, etc. There is work out there, its just hard to find. And remember this, you are already smarter
than most of the people around you.

07-23-2012, 06:27 PM	#21
Malakai The Anti-Dennis Join Date: Apr 2012 First Name: John Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 792 Trading: (34)	Re: Work on a Cruise ship? I would ask about the hours of work and how it varies...it says you have to work some hours every day. I would ask how those hours are divided amongst the staff they have on board. Such as most senior to least...meaning you would probably work during the late nights or possibly work while the ship was in port and not get a chance to get out. Or do they vary them so that everyone would get a chance to get out on a port of call.

07-23-2012, 09:23 PM	#22
LockOut Burn Baby Burn Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: I'm a traveling monkey Posts: 623 Trading: (12)	Re: Work on a Cruise ship? This is my list of "stuff" to inquire about during my interview tomorrow. Anyone have anything they think should be added to it. • What’s the on board medical direction like. • Define shipboard 911 • Working with a nurse or doctor outside the “clinic” • What monitors do they use. • Clinic entails what, on bord capabilities are. • Shipboard firefighting • More information about working every day, time on vs time off. Allowed to get off the boat. • More information about being staff vs crew. • Job process from here including training in Aug. • 4month on 2 month off pay • Salary/benefits __________________ Bráithreachas Thar Gach Ni IAFF Local #4907

07-24-2012, 07:42 AM	#25
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07-24-2012, 08:43 AM	#27
FriendlyMan Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: JACK Location: NYC Posts: 212 Trading: (7)	Re: Work on a Cruise ship? If I was you, I'd read up a lot on Sea & Motion Sickness. Find as much as remedies as possible. Besides knowing your regular EMT Paramedic knowledge. I'm sure the more you know about that will help you. just my 2 cents.

07-25-2012, 10:28 AM	#28
LockOut Burn Baby Burn Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: I'm a traveling monkey Posts: 623 Trading: (12)	Re: Work on a Cruise ship? Well got the typical and standard impersonal rejection letter today, so back to being 100% unemployed. god this sucks. I wish these people would at least tell me what i need to do to do better. Although i love the past couple of interviews I have had where i get told I am too over qualified for the job and they won't hire me because they are afraid i will over think the position. __________________ Bráithreachas Thar Gach Ni IAFF Local #4907

07-25-2012, 10:45 AM	#29
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07-25-2012, 11:12 AM	#31
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,038 Trading: (111*)	Re: Work on a Cruise ship? Sorry to hear this Tom. Even though you got a letter you might try giving them a call to find out why they did not offer you the position. Sometimes you get an HR person or hiring manager who is willing to help you out. __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

07-25-2012, 11:49 AM	#32
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07-25-2012, 11:54 AM	#33
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07-25-2012, 12:11 PM	#34
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,550 Trading: (47)	Re: Work on a Cruise ship? Sorry that it fell through. But I imagine that they received many, many resumes. I have a friend who is an EMT with a fire department in Alaska. During the tourist season, he is assigned full time to the cruise ship docks. He has indicated that while he likes the duty, many do not. He is passing through Oregon this week (he is from Astoria) and I'm trying to get him to drop by for cigars. If he does, I'll poke him about possible EMT slots in Alaska, esp. with the cruise ship industry. He may (or may not) have contacts to share. Around here, it is getting harder and harder for a non-paramedic to get a gig unless they are also a firefighter. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

07-25-2012, 12:32 PM	#35
OLS Suck It Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brad Location: TN Posts: 7,912 Trading: (19)	Re: Work on a Cruise ship? Lucky you, man....being without a job we all know just sux. But that job would have killed you. I have taken the WORST jobs in my career out of sheer desperation. I had one promotions job for 9 months. I told the boss he was kind of an a55hole and that I WANTED to be good at promotions but it was clear that I was not good at it. I basically had to make a news promo or three every day and people made no effort to get me the footage I needed, my scripts were picked apart, everything I did was looked at through this lens of "there really IS a perfect way to do everything, find it." I didn't buy it. HE DID hire me out of the situation you are in now, and I thought then I would do ANYTHING to get back to work. Apparently not ANYTHING. My idea for you might sound trite, but these days its about the only way to find a job. MAKE a position for yourself. I sent a commercial to a guy who owns a pest control company in town, just wanting to sell him the ad for $750. I wanted to work in my pajamas from home. But when he offered me a job doing all his advertising and promotions it was JUST starting to get bad, about 5-6 years ago. I took the job. You might need to find a company that doesn't yet KNOW they need your skills and convince them that they DO. Daycare chain, large manufacturer, school system, etc. There is work out there, its just hard to find. And remember this, you are already smarter than most of the people around you.