Has anyone seen this Cohiba? Cohiba 40 Aniversario 1966-2006

01-02-2010, 01:39 PM

Okay this is my first thread outside the welcome area so hopefully I did everything right, I think I did haha. Well I went to the store the other day with a few bucks burning a hole in my pocket. I go in the humidor and see the cohibas are on sale, so I decide to pick up a couple. I came home to research this cigar and found nothing. I also asked another member what he thinks of them and he says that he has never seen them before either. Take a look at the pictures I took and please share any information you may know about them.
Pauly
http://russianboy4.webs.com/apps/pho...lbumid=7812861

bobarian · 01-02-2010, 01:47 PM

Interesting cigar, but to my knowledge General Cigar changed over to the current Red Dot band in 1997. General is the owner of the non-Cuban version of the Cohiba made in the Domincan Republic.

01-02-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Interesting cigar, but to my knowledge General Cigar changed over to the current Red Dot band in 1997. General is the owner of the non-Cuban version of the Cohiba made in the Domincan Republic.

So did this one come from somewhere else do you think?

jerseystepup · 01-02-2010, 01:59 PM

the cohiba brand from cuba has only been around since the 80's i believe

NCRadioMan · 01-02-2010, 02:00 PM

Whatever they are, they are fake. The only Cohiba 40 Anny is the very limited edition Cuban Cohiba Behike. I wouldn't touch those.

wavescrashing · 01-02-2010, 02:01 PM

After looking at the pics, the design doesn't match the General Cohiba logo either. This seems to be one of the lookalikes similar to the mildly popular siglo brand. Can you get a pic of the box? I also didn't find a band or stick that matched this anywhere, so there's a chance its a local roll possibly made by a former roller from Cuba paying homage?

wavescrashing · 01-02-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Whatever they are, they are fake. The only Cohiba 40 Anny is the very limited edition Cuban Cohiba Behike. I wouldn't touch those.

Yeah, these aren't cuban, they are from a B&M in the states I believe.

Snake Hips · 01-02-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Walnuts

So did this one come from somewhere else do you think?

Maybe. I've never seen such a thing as that cigar. The band looks like a lame General Cigar copy of a Cuban Aniversario Cohiba, but I'm pretty sure the General Cohibas only come in four varieties - original, Black, XV, and Puro Dominicana, and they don't use the Cuban Cohiba colors, patterns or markings, such as the yellow and black, the white squares and the gold Taino on your band.

This one has me stumped.

There was another Cohiba at one time, that used a band that looked just like the Cuban Cohiba bands, but with "Republica Dominicana" instead of "La Habana, Cuba," but those were ordered off the market a long time ago.

Snake Hips · 01-02-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseystepup

the cohiba brand from cuba has only been around since the 80's i believe

As a public brand. Cohiba was established in 1966.

01-02-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Whatever they are, they are fake. The only Cohiba 40 Anny is the very limited edition Cuban Cohiba Behike. I wouldn't touch those.

are you saying i shouldnt smoke them? because theyre already purchased and id hate to have to waste my money on some cigars i cant afford in the first place and not even smoke them lol

01-02-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wavescrashing

After looking at the pics, the design doesn't match the General Cohiba logo either. This seems to be one of the lookalikes similar to the mildly popular siglo brand. Can you get a pic of the box? I also didn't find a band or stick that matched this anywhere, so there's a chance its a local roll possibly made by a former roller from Cuba paying homage?

Next time I go in there I'll take a picture of the box. I might go in today and ask the guy some questions just out of curiosity considering it has all of us stumped.

wavescrashing · 01-02-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Walnuts

are you saying i shouldnt smoke them? because theyre already purchased and id hate to have to waste my money on some cigars i cant afford in the first place and not even smoke them lol

Not at all. Imho, id smoke anything at least once. By fake, he meant not a real behike 40th cuban cohiba, which we both already knew. However, after smoking it, you might find that its a solid non cuban smoke.

NCRadioMan · 01-02-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Walnuts

are you saying i shouldnt smoke them? because theyre already purchased and id hate to have to waste my money on some cigars i cant afford in the first place and not even smoke them lol

You can smoke them if you want, you bought them. They are probably just a run of the mill Dominican with a fancy band to fool people. I just don't like perpetuating the black market. If I saw those I would have a word with the owner or manager about it.

01-02-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wavescrashing

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Not at all. Imho, id smoke anything at least once. By fake, he meant not a real behike 40th cuban cohiba, which we both already knew. However, after smoking it, you might find that its a solid non cuban smoke.

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

You can smoke them if you want, you bought them. They are probably just a run of the mill Dominican with a fancy band to fool people. I just don't like perpetuating the black market. If I saw those I would have a word with the owner or manager about it.

Yea Ill give it a try to see what its all about. and I think I will have a talk with the owner to see what he has to say about em and get back to you guys.

hotreds · 01-02-2010, 02:54 PM

It's interesting they don't have an "Hecho en xxx" location on the band. Makes me wonder, too. Most Cuban fakes would have the fact that they are from Cuba somewhere on the band, like real ones. Most non Cubans also have a provenance listed on the band. So, very odd, indeed!

s15driftking · 01-02-2010, 03:01 PM

6 rows of dots would be the first thing that would make me say "huh"...

01-02-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

It's interesting they don't have an "Hecho en xxx" location on the band. Makes me wonder, too. Most Cuban fakes would have the fact that they are from Cuba somewhere on the band, like real ones. Most non Cubans also have a provenance listed on the band. So, very odd, indeed!

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Originally Posted by s15driftking

6 rows of dots would be the first thing that would make me say "huh"...

With all this confusion I'm really curious so I'll go over there right now and have a word with this guy. I'll post when I get back.

T.G · 01-02-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Interesting cigar, but to my knowledge General Cigar changed over to the current Red Dot band in 1997. General is the owner of the non-Cuban version of the Cohiba made in the Domincan Republic.

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Originally Posted by hotreds

It's interesting they don't have an "Hecho en xxx" location on the band. Makes me wonder, too. Most Cuban fakes would have the fact that they are from Cuba somewhere on the band, like real ones. Most non Cubans also have a provenance listed on the band. So, very odd, indeed!

There used to be a third entity using the Cohiba name. A Dominican company by the name of Montikristi (or something very similar IIRC), they had bands that were basically identical to the current Cohiba bands except I think that that they were either blank on the bottom yellow field or said "Republica Dominica" - I can't remember which it's been so long since I've seen one. The wooden boxes had a clearly pressed/burned in Dominican Republic in script on the front. If memory serves, they weren't supposed to be exported off of the island.

I haven't seen or heard of them in years, so I wonder if this is from them.

T.G · 01-02-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Hips

There was another Cohiba at one time, that used a band that looked just like the Cuban Cohiba bands, but with "Republica Dominicana" instead of "La Habana, Cuba," but those were ordered off the market a long time ago.

Whoops, missed this part of your post on the first read.

That was my thought, that they might have been from them (Montikristi or whatever their name was). I never followed what happened to the company, so I didn't know that they were ordered off the market.

01-02-2010, 03:11 PM

The only Cuban Cohiba 40th Anniversary cigar is indeed the Behike which measures 7 1/2 x 52 and is extremely expensive so I'm pretty sure that if this cigar is being sold as a genuine Cuban, it's fake. The Behike band also does not look anything like that and instead, is the traditional Cohiba band with an additional white and gold band underneath it that reads "Behike" and has a limited edition number below that.

Does the band on your cigar indicate that the cigar is Cuban? If yes, it's a fake Cuban cigar. If not, it may be a non-Cuban cigar produced strictly to cash in on Cohiba's 40th anniversary.

01-02-2010, 01:39 PM	#1
Pauly Walnuts Guest Posts: n/a	Has anyone seen this Cohiba? Cohiba 40 Aniversario 1966-2006 Okay this is my first thread outside the welcome area so hopefully I did everything right, I think I did haha. Well I went to the store the other day with a few bucks burning a hole in my pocket. I go in the humidor and see the cohibas are on sale, so I decide to pick up a couple. I came home to research this cigar and found nothing. I also asked another member what he thinks of them and he says that he has never seen them before either. Take a look at the pictures I took and please share any information you may know about them. Pauly http://russianboy4.webs.com/apps/pho...lbumid=7812861

01-02-2010, 01:47 PM	#2
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Has anyone seen this Cohiba? Cohiba 40 Aniversario 1966-2006 Interesting cigar, but to my knowledge General Cigar changed over to the current Red Dot band in 1997. General is the owner of the non-Cuban version of the Cohiba made in the Domincan Republic.

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wavescrashing Unofficial CA Boli Ho Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Mike Location: An island? Posts: 509 Trading: (19)	Re: Has anyone seen this Cohiba? Cohiba 40 Aniversario 1966-2006 After looking at the pics, the design doesn't match the General Cohiba logo either. This seems to be one of the lookalikes similar to the mildly popular siglo brand. Can you get a pic of the box? I also didn't find a band or stick that matched this anywhere, so there's a chance its a local roll possibly made by a former roller from Cuba paying homage?

01-02-2010, 02:54 PM	#15
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,658 Trading: (63)	Re: Has anyone seen this Cohiba? Cohiba 40 Aniversario 1966-2006 It's interesting they don't have an "Hecho en xxx" location on the band. Makes me wonder, too. Most Cuban fakes would have the fact that they are from Cuba somewhere on the band, like real ones. Most non Cubans also have a provenance listed on the band. So, very odd, indeed! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

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01-02-2010, 03:11 PM	#20
SkinsFanLarry Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Has anyone seen this Cohiba? Cohiba 40 Aniversario 1966-2006 The only Cuban Cohiba 40th Anniversary cigar is indeed the Behike which measures 7 1/2 x 52 and is extremely expensive so I'm pretty sure that if this cigar is being sold as a genuine Cuban, it's fake. The Behike band also does not look anything like that and instead, is the traditional Cohiba band with an additional white and gold band underneath it that reads "Behike" and has a limited edition number below that. Does the band on your cigar indicate that the cigar is Cuban? If yes, it's a fake Cuban cigar. If not, it may be a non-Cuban cigar produced strictly to cash in on Cohiba's 40th anniversary.