American Tobacco?

Flynnster · 03-09-2012, 05:27 PM

Hey everyone, I was wondering today why we never see cigars made with American tobacco. I know theres plenty of it grown here. Why doesn't' it get put into cigars? Poor quality? Poor taste?

BHalbrooks · 03-09-2012, 05:32 PM

I think there's a brand from Michigan that says they grow their own Tobacco in MI. I don't live there anymore, so I can't remember.

Zanaspus · 03-09-2012, 05:57 PM

You're in luck. Iirc Pete Johnson's La Casita Criolla is an American puro. Also, there's bunches of cigars with PA Broadleaf as a wrapper.

The more complete answer to you question is that well over 90% of America's production goes to cigarettes, pipes, and chew.

hotreds · 03-09-2012, 05:59 PM

Connecticut shade is what many premium cigars are wrapped with! Grown in North Central Ct- Windsor area- "Tobacco Valley."

chippewastud79 · 03-09-2012, 05:59 PM

Kentucky has a few companies that make some had rolled cigars. I think most American tobacco is grown for the cigarette, machine-made cigar and snuff/chew industry.

GWN · 03-09-2012, 06:00 PM

Marsh Wheeling? Don't know if they're any good or not, but read a neat story about the company in Smoke magazine a few years ago.
http://www.tophatcigar.com/a.cfm/Mac...Cigar-Tobacco/

Zanaspus · 03-09-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

Connecticut shade is what many premium cigars are wrapped with! Grown in North Central Ct- Windsor area- "Tobacco Valley."

D'oh. Yep, I guess part of my brain melted during my post.

DaBear · 03-09-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Kentucky has a few companies that make some had rolled cigars. I think most American tobacco is grown for the cigarette, machine-made cigar and snuff/chew industry.

Don't forget our good ol pipe tobacco. Virginias, Burley, and Perique

are all grown in various locations nation wide.

lenguamor · 03-09-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GWN

Marsh Wheeling? Don't know if they're any good or not, but read a neat story about the company in Smoke magazine a few years ago.
http://www.tophatcigar.com/a.cfm/Mac...Cigar-Tobacco/

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...marsh+wheeling

Some interesting info there too.

Gary · 03-09-2012, 09:59 PM

There's Avanti

http://www.avanticigar.com/

Flynnster · 03-09-2012, 10:19 PM

How did I forget about the connie wrappers? haha Good stuff though, thanks guys.

chippewastud79 · 03-09-2012, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBear

Don't forget our good ol pipe tobacco. Virginias, Burley, and Perique

are all grown in various locations nation wide.

Mistake noted. Pipe tobacco as well. Basically, less whole leaf product, more chopped/cut/processed products.

T.G · 03-09-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Flynnster

Hey everyone, I was wondering today why we never see cigars made with American tobacco. I know theres plenty of it grown here. Why doesn't' it get put into cigars? Poor quality? Poor taste?

Wrappers and binders have been covered already in this thread as they are quite common. As a filler tobacco, currently American grown cigar filler is very distinct and can be overpowering, making it interesting to work with. Also, it's bloody expensive compared to filler tobacco grown in central America/DR.

One more manufacturer who has some good cigars with American tobacco for filler
http://johnhaycigars.com/

JHC is Dave and Lauren Patrick, really good people.

elderboy02 · 03-09-2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zanaspus

..La Casita Criolla is an American puro...

+1. Try the Tatuaje La Casita Criolla. It is an awesome smoke and 100% American since it contains Connecticut Broadleaf.

kuzi16 · 03-10-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

+1. Try the Tatuaje La Casita Criolla. It is an awesome smoke and 100% American since it contains Connecticut Broadleaf.

agree as well. that is a damn fine smoke right there.

there are a few wrappers and binders that come from the good ol' US of A. Connecticut shade Broadleaf is very popular in the cigar world. PA broadleaf is showing up more and more. Patel brothers features it and a few of AJ Fernandez's blends have it as a wrapper.

PA broadleaf also shows up as a filler in the LHC CORE.

BengalMan · 03-11-2012, 08:03 AM

In this years Studio Tobac event sampler we have a concept blend that we made using all American tobacco. It came out very good! I'm excited for everyone to be able to try it.

TheTraveler · 03-11-2012, 08:45 AM

Another company that utilizes American tobacco in hand-rolled premium cigars is Black Patch Cigar Co. in Kentucky. I've smoked a few of their cigars and enjoyed them and the cigars' construction was very good.

Here's a link to their site: http://www.blackpatchcigarco.com/main/

Here's a quote from their site:

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The construction of Black Patch cigars consists of master blending utilizing Kentucky / USA Broadleaf and tobacco leaf from selected soils on the globe. Most notably, Dominican Republic raised varieties from Olor seed, and Piloto Cubano seed. The blends of filler and wrapper are consistent and chosen for demanding aficionados. We also allow ample time for the finished cigars to age gracefully until deemed worthy for packaging.

dyieldin · 03-11-2012, 09:47 AM

John Hay is another one.

ashauler · 03-12-2012, 09:04 AM

There is a burgeoning movement towards home-growing tobacco in the US. Many "specialty" growers exist, albeit on a much smaller scale than would be commercially viable......for now.

FNA · 03-12-2012, 09:59 AM

PA Broadleaf has been one of the hotter wrappers in the market the last several years. It's been used by Patel, Diesel, La Herencia Cubana, 5 Vegas and Tatuaje reserva to name but a few.

Hey, nice to see another John Hay fan.

03-09-2012, 05:27 PM	#1
Flynnster Life's too short Swishers Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Middle of the Mitten Posts: 787 Trading: (7)	American Tobacco? Hey everyone, I was wondering today why we never see cigars made with American tobacco. I know theres plenty of it grown here. Why doesn't' it get put into cigars? Poor quality? Poor taste?

03-09-2012, 05:32 PM	#2
BHalbrooks Have My Own Room Join Date: Nov 2011 First Name: B Location: Texas Posts: 1,122 Trading: (5)	Re: American Tobacco? I think there's a brand from Michigan that says they grow their own Tobacco in MI. I don't live there anymore, so I can't remember.

03-09-2012, 05:57 PM	#3
Zanaspus Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Tony Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 492 Trading: (3)	Re: American Tobacco? You're in luck. Iirc Pete Johnson's La Casita Criolla is an American puro. Also, there's bunches of cigars with PA Broadleaf as a wrapper. The more complete answer to you question is that well over 90% of America's production goes to cigarettes, pipes, and chew. __________________ If you're gonna be a lamb, you might as well be a sheep.

03-09-2012, 05:59 PM	#4
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,658 Trading: (63)	Re: American Tobacco? Connecticut shade is what many premium cigars are wrapped with! Grown in North Central Ct- Windsor area- "Tobacco Valley." __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

03-09-2012, 05:59 PM	#5
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: American Tobacco? Kentucky has a few companies that make some had rolled cigars. I think most American tobacco is grown for the cigarette, machine-made cigar and snuff/chew industry. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

03-09-2012, 06:00 PM	#6
GWN Snow City Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Barrie, Ontario Posts: 898 Trading: (10)	Re: American Tobacco? Marsh Wheeling? Don't know if they're any good or not, but read a neat story about the company in Smoke magazine a few years ago. http://www.tophatcigar.com/a.cfm/Mac...Cigar-Tobacco/ __________________

03-09-2012, 09:59 PM	#10
Gary waiting for my next smoke Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Gary Location: Capitola Posts: 207 Trading: (0)	Re: American Tobacco? There's Avanti http://www.avanticigar.com/ __________________

03-09-2012, 10:19 PM	#11
Flynnster Life's too short Swishers Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Middle of the Mitten Posts: 787 Trading: (7)	Re: American Tobacco? How did I forget about the connie wrappers? haha Good stuff though, thanks guys.

03-11-2012, 08:03 AM	#16
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: American Tobacco? In this years Studio Tobac event sampler we have a concept blend that we made using all American tobacco. It came out very good! I'm excited for everyone to be able to try it.

03-11-2012, 09:47 AM	#18
dyieldin Still Watching My Back Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Dave Location: S. Phoenix AZ Posts: 235 Trading: (0)	Re: American Tobacco? John Hay is another one.

03-12-2012, 09:04 AM	#19
ashauler Just in from the Storm Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jamie Location: Kansas Posts: 4 Trading: (0)	Re: American Tobacco? There is a burgeoning movement towards home-growing tobacco in the US. Many "specialty" growers exist, albeit on a much smaller scale than would be commercially viable......for now.

03-12-2012, 09:59 AM	#20
FNA Just in from the Storm Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 23 Trading: (0)	Re: American Tobacco? PA Broadleaf has been one of the hotter wrappers in the market the last several years. It's been used by Patel, Diesel, La Herencia Cubana, 5 Vegas and Tatuaje reserva to name but a few. Hey, nice to see another John Hay fan.