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Old 01-28-2016, 10:10 AM   #1
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Question Black spots on hartflet beads. HELP!!#

Hey I'm hoping some one can help me. I had my beads in cheese cloth bags. I opened my humidor to see blackish green spots on the bags. I took them put immediately. I emptied the bags into bowls. And saw a good many of the beads had the spots on them too.... can I save them? Should I be worried about my cigars? Can I do anything to protect them? Any advice is appreciated.
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Old 01-28-2016, 10:42 AM   #2
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I'm not an expert, but I'd say it's time to get new beads. Perhaps you kept them too moist. I did that since I didn't want to keep rehumidifying them as often and that happened to me too. I wouldn't worry about the cigars in your humidor. I do know what not to do. Don't try cleaning the beads with rubbing alcohol and reusing them. That will change the humidifying %. You might be able to do that and recalibrate them in salt or something, but I'd just buy some new beads.
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Default Re: Black spots on hartflet beads. HELP!!#

I agree with Steve, I'd pitch those. Sounds like mold.
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Default Re: Black spots on hartflet beads. HELP!!#

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I agree with Steve, I'd pitch those. Sounds like mold.
My thoughts exactly.
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Default Re: Black spots on hartflet beads. HELP!!#

Thanks all. The in the trash... gel beads will have to do until the new heartfelts arrive.
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Old 01-28-2016, 12:37 PM   #6
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What kind of water are you using? Distilled?
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Old 01-28-2016, 12:58 PM   #7
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The active (humidity control) ingredient in many of the bead products is specifically in there to inhibit mold growth.
If they've gone moldy, there's a reason.
With the greatest of respect, Joel, it's pretty much got to be user error.
I only mention it so you can figure out what you're doing and do it differently so they last longer and you get your money's worth.

You should never run water over the beads. That'll wash away the mold inhibiting substances.
You should never over-water the beads. 80% humidity will allow mold growth.
You should place the beads in open air, rather than a box or something.

There are a lot of do's and don'ts.
If you outline exactly how you manage and care for your beads, the guys will easily help you figure out where things are going south.

All the humidity control products are simple to use, but they all have a "don't deviate from the instructions" factor to them. That stuff is there for good reason.
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What kind of water are you using? Distilled?
I would assume not distilled!!!
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:07 PM   #9
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Default Re: Black spots on hartflet beads. HELP!!#

I have used destilled.... but I was dunking them in the cheese cloth sack and shaking it out. and then putting it in a small tupaware container and last time I did it they where still pretty saturated... Sounds like I am messing up everywhere. Appreciate the help!


Also i am doing an expirment with a spare and empty tupador and the old beads. Cooked them at 350 for an hour to kill the mold and put them in there to see in a similar set up but not as wet to see if it regrows. I am interested to see if they can be salvaged... if they can't no biggie more are already on the way.
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For the record I would listen to Scott when it comes to beads, he tends to have to inside knowledge on them. Heh
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I have used the heartfelt beads for years, but have switched over to the HCM beads as they just work better for me. I see where everyone says not to wet the beads directly, but if you check Heartfelt's FAQs, that actually say you can pour distilled water directly on them.

They also suggest putting in a bowl of water next to the beads until they max out, but the preferred method is to use a spray bottle filled with distilled water.
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Joel, you figured out what you're doing wrong and why.
I'd probably chuck the old beads as soon as the new arrive, but that's just me.
There are a few sensible reasons, but I don't think they're scary enough to mention.
I still think I'd just err on the side of caution, you have a big investment in your smokes!!!

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Thanks for the advice Scott, you make a good point i like to burn my sticks, but not all at once and because of disaster!
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I have used the heartfelt beads for years, but have switched over to the HCM beads as they just work better for me. I see where everyone says not to wet the beads directly, but if you check Heartfelt's FAQs, that actually say you can pour distilled water directly on them.

They also suggest putting in a bowl of water next to the beads until they max out, but the preferred method is to use a spray bottle filled with distilled water.
Yah I think I remember hearing that pouring water directly on them can cause the little fractures in them, where as spraying them won't cause the structural damage, something like that anyway.
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Old 01-30-2016, 02:55 PM   #15
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Default Re: Black spots on hartflet beads. HELP!!#

I sprayed distilled water on mine, but over wet them and shook the excess off. That's a no-no too. It changes the humidifying % and lead to those same black spot mold.
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