Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum  

Go Back   Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum > Cigar Forums > Cigar Discussion > All Cigar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-19-2011, 01:56 PM   #21
macsauce13
Have My Own Room
 
macsauce13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
First Name: McKenzie
Location: Lexington, KY
Posts: 1,107
Trading: (38)
macsauce13 has a spectacular aura aboutmacsauce13 has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

OK, a real question...maybe ignorant, but pertinent none the less.

Is there any real reason to stock up now before prices skyrocket if that GD embargo is lifted?

I'm serious. I can barely afford them now, and not at all if prices go up.
macsauce13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 02:14 PM   #22
landhoney
Mr. Charisma
 
landhoney's Avatar
1
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Seth
Location: In the forest
Posts: 2,639
Trading: (32)
landhoney has a spectacular aura aboutlandhoney has a spectacular aura aboutlandhoney has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by massphatness View Post
You know what's good? Mofongo!

OH.

MY.

GOD!
Not Cuban.

But thanks for the reminder........................ I owe ya one
__________________
Fields (to a heckling youngster): You're about to fall heir to a kitten stocking.
Kid: What's a kitten stocking?
Fields: A sock on the puss!
landhoney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 04:23 PM   #23
icehog3
Admiral Douchebag
 
icehog3's Avatar
15
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Tom
Location: Clermont, Kentucky
Posts: 70,580
Trading: (60)
HUpmann
icehog3 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface View Post
That brings up a point?
Do you prefer Cuban plantain, v. Puerto Rican, v. Central American, v. South American?
Do we even bring in all of the Antilles as they too have plantain?
I am sure the Jamaicans want a part of this discussion too.
Wow!
What a mess to sort out.
I had Jamaican plantains this weekend, and they will scrumpdilicious.

Quote:
Originally Posted by massphatness View Post
You know what I love about me?

I live close to Moe.
You know what I like about you right now?

Not a GD thing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by replicant_argent View Post
that was a mean thing to say.
Chocolate cannolis. There, I'm a sadist.

Quote:
Originally Posted by macsauce13 View Post
OK, a real question...maybe ignorant, but pertinent none the less.

Is there any real reason to stock up now before prices skyrocket if that GD embargo is lifted?

I'm serious. I can barely afford them now, and not at all if prices go up.
I would bet a month's salary prices will go up if the embargo ends.

I would not make the same bet that it will happen anytime soon.
__________________


Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!
icehog3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 04:58 PM   #24
68TriShield
Got Torque?
 
68TriShield's Avatar
2
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Dave
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,184
Trading: (40)
HUpmann
68TriShield has disabled reputation
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by macsauce13 View Post
Is there any real reason to stock up now before prices skyrocket if that GD embargo is lifted?
Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 View Post


I would bet a month's salary prices will go up if the embargo ends.
That and quality I think would nosedive due to increased demand from the U.S. market.
68TriShield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 05:33 PM   #25
N2 GOLD
MIND OVER MATTER...
 
N2 GOLD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
First Name: RICO
Location: So. CAL 33° 44' 44" N / 117° 52' 0" W
Posts: 2,330
Trading: (1)
SCdlH
N2 GOLD will become famous soon enoughN2 GOLD will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 68TriShield View Post
That and quality I think would nosedive due to increased demand from the U.S. market.
Supply and demand are two great examples on how & why greed will drive up the price & quality to $H!T...
__________________
When I want your opinion, I'll give it to ya.
N2 GOLD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 05:39 PM   #26
Bill86
Snob
 
Bill86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
First Name: Bill
Posts: 6,704
Trading: (67)
Cohiba
Bill86 is a name known to allBill86 is a name known to allBill86 is a name known to allBill86 is a name known to allBill86 is a name known to allBill86 is a name known to all
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

I'm hoping the embargo doesn't get lifted, people forget about the HUGE price increase it would cause.
Bill86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 05:39 PM   #27
T.G
Grrrrrr
 
T.G's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
First Name: The Other Adam
Posts: 15,545
Trading: (37)
Navy (Served With Honor)
T.G has disabled reputation
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 68TriShield View Post
That and quality I think would nosedive due to increased demand from the U.S. market.
Unless it's inadvertent, I can't see that happening.

I can see them rapidly ramping up manufacturing to meet the demand, but if in the process there is a lowering of the quality of that supply to get more cigars out there, they would turn off a large part of an entire possible customer base because they would be producing poorly made cigars. Couple that with it's almost a given that vendors will ramp up the prices regardless, you've got a combo for losing an entire market segment almost instantly. Once the novelty wears off, the populous won't pay a high price for a tent peg more than two or three times before going back to their Macanudos and NC whatevers that don't have the quality problems. If there is reduced quality, there will be a reduced demand and prices will have to follow suite.

By keeping supply tight and quality at present levels, they can ramp the prices through the roof, and if they don't, law of supply and demand will do it for them.

Does HSA, or more accurately, Imperial Tobacco, see this possibility? I don't know.


Last edited by T.G; 04-19-2011 at 05:48 PM.
T.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 05:46 PM   #28
gnukfu
I like cigars
 
gnukfu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: George
Location: Massholia
Posts: 1,466
Trading: (27)
LGC
gnukfu is a jewel in the roughgnukfu is a jewel in the roughgnukfu is a jewel in the roughgnukfu is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by massphatness View Post
Can I buy Cuban cigars now?
No you can't Vin. It is against the law still. I will tell you when it is legal to buy Cuban cigars. Until then you have to smoke the crap you have in your coolers and humidors.
__________________
Curious George

gnukfu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 06:07 PM   #29
Gophernut
Have My Own Room
 
Gophernut's Avatar
2
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Steve
Location: Hudson, WI
Posts: 1,661
Trading: (15)
Diplomatico
Gophernut will become famous soon enoughGophernut will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Well hopefully it will give us an option for legally purchasing CC's. I have always wanted to see the island also, so US tourism would probably bring some money into the economy.
__________________
"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." Thomas Jefferson
Gophernut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 06:17 PM   #30
Trent0341
Still Watching My Back
 
Trent0341's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
First Name: Dan
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 195
Trading: (7)
Cohiba MarineCorps (Served With Honor)
Trent0341 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

I agree with those saying prices would sky rocket and quality would go to hell. I can imagine hoards of non cigar smokers streaming into my local B&M demanding a "cuban". That being said I would much rather the price went up than the quality went down. Quality is always the most important thing to me.
Trent0341 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 09:35 PM   #31
massphatness
Where's my buffaloooo ...
 
massphatness's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Vin
Location: MassHolia
Posts: 12,688
Trading: (206)
ERdM
massphatness has disabled reputation
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gnukfu View Post
No you can't Vin. It is against the law still. I will tell you when it is legal to buy Cuban cigars. Until then you have to smoke the crap you have in your coolers and humidors.
who are you think you are?
__________________
Help Support The Navy SEAL Foundation: HERE
massphatness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 09:37 PM   #32
massphatness
Where's my buffaloooo ...
 
massphatness's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Vin
Location: MassHolia
Posts: 12,688
Trading: (206)
ERdM
massphatness has disabled reputation
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 View Post

You know what I like about you right now?

Not a GD thing.
This makes me a tiny bit sad

__________________
Help Support The Navy SEAL Foundation: HERE
massphatness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 09:44 PM   #33
ir13
PSHC - T1nyH@
 
ir13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,439
Trading: (44)
HUpmann
ir13 is a jewel in the roughir13 is a jewel in the roughir13 is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface View Post
Great Puerto Rican dish.
Anything with plaintain is always good.

That brings up a point?
Do you prefer Cuban plantain, v. Puerto Rican, v. Central American, v. South American?
Do we even bring in all of the Antilles as they too have plantain?
I am sure the Jamaicans want a part of this discussion too.
Wow!
What a mess to sort out.
Doesnt matter origin, the ones from the internet eat/taste better
__________________
ir13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 09:46 PM   #34
awsmith4
Simple Pleasures - 2oL
 
awsmith4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Albert
Location: Marietta, Georgia
Posts: 4,602
Trading: (111)
HUpmann
awsmith4 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ir13 View Post
Doesnt matter origin, the ones from the internet eat/taste better
If they don't have cellophane
awsmith4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 09:50 PM   #35
sammyboy405
Cigar & Beer Geek
 
sammyboy405's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
First Name: Sammy
Location: Mustang, Oklahoma
Posts: 136
Trading: (3)
Cohiba AirForce (Served With Honor)
sammyboy405 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill86 View Post
I'm hoping the embargo doesn't get lifted, people forget about the HUGE price increase it would cause.
Thats what I was afraid of
__________________
Chuck Norris was once asked why he didnt use an iPhone. He Replied "Same reason I dont use Tampons"
sammyboy405 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 10:11 PM   #36
druturn
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G View Post
I can see them rapidly ramping up manufacturing to meet the demand, but if in the process there is a lowering of the quality of that supply to get more cigars out there, they would turn off a large part of an entire possible customer base because they would be producing poorly made cigars. Couple that with it's almost a given that vendors will ramp up the prices regardless, you've got a combo for losing an entire market segment almost instantly. Once the novelty wears off, the populous won't pay a high price for a tent peg more than two or three times before going back to their Macanudos and NC whatevers that don't have the quality problems. If there is reduced quality, there will be a reduced demand and prices will have to follow suite.
Although I agree with you on almost everything here, I do hesitate to agree that the demand will drop dramatically because of lower quality cigars. I can assure you that there are enough douche bags out there who are willing to drop serious cash on these sticks simply because Cubans would now be the "in" thing to smoke and it would impress their colleagues and friends. Just because they are crap sticks does not mean that the palates of these idiots would become more refined. Although the purchases of these idiots would probably not be enough to create a large demand, it may keep the demand afloat for a few years at least until they realize their foolishness. Just my
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 10:32 PM   #37
icehog3
Admiral Douchebag
 
icehog3's Avatar
15
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Tom
Location: Clermont, Kentucky
Posts: 70,580
Trading: (60)
HUpmann
icehog3 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by massphatness View Post
This makes me a tiny bit sad

You know I love you, Vin!
__________________


Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!
icehog3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 10:41 PM   #38
sam a
... .. .
 
sam a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: planit earf
Posts: 160
Trading: (2)
QdO
sam a has disabled reputation
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueface View Post
Great Puerto Rican dish.
Anything with plaintain is always good.

That brings up a point?
Do you prefer Cuban plantain, v. Puerto Rican, v. Central American, v. South American?
Do we even bring in all of the Antilles as they too have plantain?
I am sure the Jamaicans want a part of this discussion too.
Wow!
What a mess to sort out.
i am partial to Nigerian plantains... it's all about the dodo
__________________
sam a is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2011, 05:07 AM   #39
68TriShield
Got Torque?
 
68TriShield's Avatar
2
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Dave
Location: Maryland
Posts: 7,184
Trading: (40)
HUpmann
68TriShield has disabled reputation
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G View Post
Unless it's inadvertent, I can't see that happening.
Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
68TriShield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2011, 06:02 AM   #40
mosesbotbol
That's a Corgi
 
mosesbotbol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Moses
Location: Boston
Posts: 6,171
Trading: (6)
Punch
mosesbotbol is a jewel in the roughmosesbotbol is a jewel in the roughmosesbotbol is a jewel in the rough
Default Re: Castro Resigns ?? What Could This Mean?

Who's to say the new vanguard is not even more radical than an aged Fidel? There will be some reforms, but don't dust of the US Passport just yet. Cuba may be able to hold their socialist ideology and yet make some needed reforms.

This could be good news for the Cuban people. I worry that radical change could do just as much harm as doing little. We have seen up and down Latin America what happens when there’s revolution. Cubans aren't simple villagers like in Central America; they're more educated than Americans.
__________________
Port Wine & Claret | British Cars | Welsh Corgi's
mosesbotbol is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content is copyrighted jointly by Cigar Asylum and the content provider.