Pale Horse Embroidered Cap

macms · 02-22-2009, 11:18 AM

I wanted everyone to see this and alert those who aren't aware of this proposed group buy. Thanks.

macms · 03-21-2009, 03:56 AM

You did it! Thank you.

The 100th cap was purchased yesterday at 11:52 PM by Geppetto.

Total Hats sold - 100
Total Patches sold - 213

The margins are so thin that I really need you to honor your purchase. The troopers of Pale Horse purchased almost half of this GB at cost. The remaining sales will cover the unsold items and other costs.

You can still purchase caps and patches until midnight Sunday when I will close this GB. If you have been thinking about doing this now is the time to act and it will be very appreciated.

Please place your order at the Troop Support store.

Please send your check or M.O. now.
If you send a M.O. print your name (Not your CA nick) on it so that I can read it. If a check is returned for any reason I will post this information on CA and charge you a $25 fee to cover my bank charges. Nothing will ship until your payment clears. Thanks.

If I know you and you want to use that other service PM me for details.

Make your check or M.O. payable to and ship to:

Fred Tolson
4101 E. Louisiana Ave.
Suite 500
Denver, CO 80246

....

macms · 03-21-2009, 06:16 PM

Evening bump.

Sailchaser · 03-21-2009, 06:54 PM

Fred thanks for the bump and for putting this together

newcigarz · 03-21-2009, 07:14 PM

Check out monday Fred.

dunng · 03-21-2009, 07:24 PM

Payment sent!

Tikihut27 · 03-22-2009, 07:46 AM

I may be a ground-pounder, but I must admit I can't wait for my hat...

macms · 03-22-2009, 01:38 PM

Last bumpity

You can still purchase caps and patches until midnight tonight. Today is your last chance to purchase a cap and it will be very appreciated.

Please place your order at the Troop Support store.

md4958 · 03-22-2009, 04:23 PM

less than 6 hours to go "bump"

icehog3 · 03-22-2009, 05:06 PM

Less than 5 hour bump.

03-22-2009, 05:32 PM

Bump do to the fact I just purchased one the money order will be sent out tomorrow!! Thanks that is a great looking cover!!
Josh

md4958 · 03-22-2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macms

Last bumpity

You can still purchase caps and patches until midnight tonight. Today is your last chance to purchase a cap and it will be very appreciated.

Please place your order at the Troop Support store.

back to page 1 bump

macms · 03-23-2009, 04:26 PM

THE PALE HORSE CAP & PATCH GB IS CANCELLED

In February I was told that the Pale Horse patch was doable via a phone conversation with a representative to discuss my expectations for the final product. I was assured there wouldn't be any problems producing this patch and then was provided a quote for 300 patches.

Date: February 26, 2009 5:47:48 AM MST
To: fred.tolson@gmail.com

Hello Fred,

Thank you for honoring us with your business.

Please review the prices below, and if you find them satisfactory, please contact us at your earliest convenience by phone or by email and we will have one of our graphic artists create a full color proof of your design for your approval.

Here is the pricing for your patches:

Qty: *******************300
Embroidery %: *******100%
Backing: ***************Velcro
Border: ****************Hot Cut
Size: ******************2.5"

And then today when I tried to place the order I received this email!

Date: March 23, 2009 3:32:45 PM MDT
To: fred.tolson@gmail.com

Fred,

Unfortunately this design is too detailed and has too much text for patch at the size required. This would have to be at least 4" and would not work for a cap. We would recommend doing direct embroidery on the cap as it would be easier to embroider.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,

I'm assuming what happened was the salesperson BS me to get my business and the production people stopped the train. I/we were betrayed.

I will begin refunding everyones money immediately and those who have sent checks I haven't deposited I will return them to you immediately upon receipt.

I'm stunned and deeply disappointed by this development. I'm sorry this has happened and I apologize to all of you for this inconvenience.

Fred

icehog3 · 03-23-2009, 05:21 PM

It's not your fault, Fred, you know the Inmates appreciate what you tried to do. You couldn't predict a dishonest salesman would be in the mix. Thanks for trying!

03-23-2009, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehog3

It's not your fault, Fred, you know the Inmates appreciate what you tried to do. You couldn't predict a dishonest salesman would be in the mix. Thanks for trying!

physiognomy · 03-23-2009, 09:15 PM

I'm sorry to hear this Fred... I know everyone appreciates the amount of hard work you put into these troop support efforts & I am sad to see the Pale Horse GB end like this.

02-22-2009, 11:18 AM	#1
macms ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mile High Posts: 996 Trading: (56)	Pale Horse Embroidered Cap The Official Pale Horse Cap I wanted everyone to see this and alert those who aren't aware of this proposed group buy. Thanks. __________________

03-21-2009, 03:56 AM	#2
macms ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mile High Posts: 996 Trading: (56)	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap You did it! Thank you. The 100th cap was purchased yesterday at 11:52 PM by Geppetto. Total Hats sold - 100 Total Patches sold - 213 The margins are so thin that I really need you to honor your purchase. The troopers of Pale Horse purchased almost half of this GB at cost. The remaining sales will cover the unsold items and other costs. You can still purchase caps and patches until midnight Sunday when I will close this GB. If you have been thinking about doing this now is the time to act and it will be very appreciated. Please place your order at the Troop Support store. Please send your check or M.O. now. If you send a M.O. print your name (Not your CA nick) on it so that I can read it. If a check is returned for any reason I will post this information on CA and charge you a $25 fee to cover my bank charges. Nothing will ship until your payment clears. Thanks. If I know you and you want to use that other service PM me for details. Make your check or M.O. payable to and ship to: Fred Tolson 4101 E. Louisiana Ave. Suite 500 Denver, CO 80246 .... __________________

03-21-2009, 06:16 PM	#3
macms ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mile High Posts: 996 Trading: (56)	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap Evening bump. __________________

03-21-2009, 06:54 PM	#4
Sailchaser Black Ops-SOB Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chris Location: SCS,MI(Somewere Cigar Smoking) Posts: 1,733 Trading: (7)	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap Fred thanks for the bump and for putting this together __________________ "Sail Fast, Shoot Straight, Fish Hard and Save Time For The Important Things In Life"

03-21-2009, 07:14 PM	#5
newcigarz Smoke and Mirrors Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: On the bottom shelf Posts: 3,139 Trading: (15)	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap Check out monday Fred.

03-21-2009, 07:24 PM	#6
dunng MassHole Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: MassHole Posts: 4,719 Trading: (59)	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap Payment sent! __________________ MassHole Banter

03-22-2009, 07:46 AM	#7
Tikihut27 Learned to Love the Bomb Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 818 Trading: (3)	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap I may be a ground-pounder, but I must admit I can't wait for my hat... __________________ I can no longer sit back and allow... the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

03-22-2009, 01:38 PM	#8
macms ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mile High Posts: 996 Trading: (56)	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap Last bumpity You can still purchase caps and patches until midnight tonight. Today is your last chance to purchase a cap and it will be very appreciated. Please place your order at the Troop Support store. __________________

03-22-2009, 04:23 PM	#9
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap less than 6 hours to go "bump" __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.

03-22-2009, 05:06 PM	#10
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,561 Trading: (60)	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap Less than 5 hour bump. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

03-22-2009, 05:32 PM	#11
Stonewall Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap Bump do to the fact I just purchased one the money order will be sent out tomorrow!! Thanks that is a great looking cover!! Josh

03-23-2009, 04:26 PM	#13
macms ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mile High Posts: 996 Trading: (56)	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap THE PALE HORSE CAP & PATCH GB IS CANCELLED In February I was told that the Pale Horse patch was doable via a phone conversation with a representative to discuss my expectations for the final product. I was assured there wouldn't be any problems producing this patch and then was provided a quote for 300 patches. Date: February 26, 2009 5:47:48 AM MST To: fred.tolson@gmail.com Hello Fred, Thank you for honoring us with your business. Please review the prices below, and if you find them satisfactory, please contact us at your earliest convenience by phone or by email and we will have one of our graphic artists create a full color proof of your design for your approval. Here is the pricing for your patches: Qty: *****************300 Embroidery %: ***100% Backing: ***********Velcro Border: ************Hot Cut Size: **************2.5" And then today when I tried to place the order I received this email! Date: March 23, 2009 3:32:45 PM MDT To: fred.tolson@gmail.com Fred, Unfortunately this design is too detailed and has too much text for patch at the size required. This would have to be at least 4" and would not work for a cap. We would recommend doing direct embroidery on the cap as it would be easier to embroider. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, I'm assuming what happened was the salesperson BS me to get my business and the production people stopped the train. I/we were betrayed. I will begin refunding everyones money immediately and those who have sent checks I haven't deposited I will return them to you immediately upon receipt.** I'm stunned and deeply disappointed by this development. I'm sorry this has happened and I apologize to all of you for this inconvenience. Fred __________________

03-23-2009, 05:21 PM	#14
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,561 Trading: (60)	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap It's not your fault, Fred, you know the Inmates appreciate what you tried to do. You couldn't predict a dishonest salesman would be in the mix. Thanks for trying! __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

03-23-2009, 09:15 PM	#16
physiognomy Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 562 Trading: (18)	Re: Pale Horse Embroidered Cap I'm sorry to hear this Fred... I know everyone appreciates the amount of hard work you put into these troop support efforts & I am sad to see the Pale Horse GB end like this.