New England Patriots - Page 3

massphatness · 01-21-2015, 02:14 PM

Jesus, this thread makes me want to call the wambulance

Gaining a competitive advantage, cheating, call it what you will -- every single team in every single sport does it.

I despise the Patriots despite living in the heart of New England (grew up a Bills fan in central NY), but wah wah wah ... the only reason people make a big deal about the Patriots "cheating" is because they've been dominant in the Brady/Belichick era. No one else is even close in terms of consistently fielding a contending team year in and year out. It's goddamn maddening to be sure, so people jump on the whole cheating argument. If this were the Jags or the Raiders or my Bills, no would give a rat's ass.

afranco · 01-21-2015, 02:33 PM

Gooooo patsssssss !!!!!!

CigarNut · 01-21-2015, 02:50 PM

Go Seahawks!!

The Poet · 01-21-2015, 03:55 PM

Go football! I'm into college hoops now, and waiting for spring training.

Porch Dweller · 01-21-2015, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barcode

You Forgot Hockey

The REAL sport!

Porch Dweller · 01-21-2015, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave128

This. There's a reason NE sports teams get the negative treatment....they CHEAT!

Like Félix Heredia, Yusaku Iriki and Guillermo Mota did, Mets fan?

pnoon · 01-21-2015, 04:20 PM

Just a bit of caution for all participants. Let's not make this personal. Remember why we're all here.

shilala · 01-21-2015, 05:15 PM

I kind of think of the New England hate about the same as Yankees hate.
I always say I hate the Yankees. I don't in the least, really. They're a storied institution of winners that make the game better. I just love to watch them lose.

I love watching New England play ball. Tom Brady is an incredible quarterback and I can't think of a coach in the NFL right now that is as talented and as complete as Bill Belichick. His pedigree is outstanding and there is nobody who works harder.
It does drive me nuts that he dresses like a doof.
That said, I'm not a New England fan. I don't root for them to lose as hard as I do the Yanks, but I do root for them to lose so the Steelers don't have to go anywhere near them in the playoffs.

I figure if I hate on the cheating, or Brady's temper, or Belichick's doofy hoodies and it keeps me away from watching them play ball, I lose.
They are an astonishing franchise. One of the very best I've ever seen in 40 years of watching the NFL.

CigarNut · 01-21-2015, 06:14 PM

I think that this is really great!!

shilala · 01-21-2015, 06:17 PM

That's awesome. I hope they work out the bet.

CigarNut · 01-21-2015, 06:22 PM

When the Seahawks win, the kids at the children's hospital win!

Dave128 · 01-21-2015, 07:22 PM

I am a Mets fan and I am glad the cheaters got caught.

mhailey · 01-21-2015, 07:44 PM

AdamJoshua · 01-21-2015, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CigarNut

When the Seahawks win, the kids at the children's hospital win!

Well regardless of the outcome I hope he goes anyway. I know RD Jr. is making the most of his second chance in life and does a lot of charity and kids events, would love to see Chris Evans follow suit. Bam! play on words.

Subvet642 · 01-22-2015, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave128

Do you have any documentation that shows the Colts were found to be using under inflated footballs? They each get 12 game balls to use. Each time the offense hits the field, they use a football from their own side line.

It's been cold while playing football since the beginning of time. This is the first I've ever heard of this happening (not saying it never has). I can see MAYBE one or two of the 12 being under inflated due to extreme cold, but not 11.

I work night shift; I haven't seen a game all season. I was just asking the question. You're right: it is always cold when they play, but how often are they measured after a game, always or only upon protest? BTW, I hate cheating too, I just want what happens to be based on science and not emotion.

As for who uses what balls, I thought it was like Baseball, where the home team supplies all the balls for the game.

Steve · 01-22-2015, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by massphatness

Jesus, this thread makes me want to call the wambulance

Gaining a competitive advantage, cheating, call it what you will -- every single team in every single sport does it.

I despise the Patriots despite living in the heart of New England (grew up a Bills fan in central NY), but wah wah wah ... the only reason people make a big deal about the Patriots "cheating" is because they've been dominant in the Brady/Belichick era. No one else is even close in terms of consistently fielding a contending team year in and year out. It's goddamn maddening to be sure, so people jump on the whole cheating argument. If this were the Jags or the Raiders or my Bills, no would give a rat's ass.

Sorry Vin, gotta call BS on this. If the Jags cheated we would actually be amazed that they were paying attention...

mosesbotbol · 01-22-2015, 06:17 AM

At the end of the day, NFL is just entertainment and should be treated as such.

The Poet · 01-22-2015, 06:22 AM

At the end of the day, NFL is just a multi-billion dollar business and should be regulated as such.

shilala · 01-22-2015, 06:26 AM

I like money.

8zeros · 01-22-2015, 06:58 AM

Since they switched back to fully inflated balls at halftime it seems the Pats handicapped themselves in the first half.
I wonder how many of the players are wearing special braces or other appliances that enhance their performance. Everyone does anything they think they can get away with. I grew up in the Drugged Up Players years when they used every steroid and stimulant and pain killer they could imagine. It was fair, I guess, cuz they were all doing it.

01-21-2015, 02:14 PM	#41
massphatness Where's my buffaloooo ... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Vin Location: MassHolia Posts: 12,688 Trading: (206)	Re: New England Patriots Jesus, this thread makes me want to call the wambulance Gaining a competitive advantage, cheating, call it what you will -- every single team in every single sport does it. I despise the Patriots despite living in the heart of New England (grew up a Bills fan in central NY), but wah wah wah ... the only reason people make a big deal about the Patriots "cheating" is because they've been dominant in the Brady/Belichick era. No one else is even close in terms of consistently fielding a contending team year in and year out. It's goddamn maddening to be sure, so people jump on the whole cheating argument. If this were the Jags or the Raiders or my Bills, no would give a rat's ass. __________________ *Help Support The Navy SEAL Foundation: HERE*

01-21-2015, 02:33 PM	#42
afranco Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2014 First Name: alfredo Location: corpus christi tx Posts: 645 Trading: (3)	Re: New England Patriots Gooooo patsssssss !!!!!!

01-21-2015, 02:50 PM	#43
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,038 Trading: (111*)	Re: New England Patriots Go Seahawks!! __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

01-21-2015, 03:55 PM	#44
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: New England Patriots Go football! I'm into college hoops now, and waiting for spring training. __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

01-21-2015, 04:20 PM	#47
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: New England Patriots Just a bit of caution for all participants. Let's not make this personal. Remember why we're all here. __________________ Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are. -John Wooden

01-21-2015, 05:15 PM	#48
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: New England Patriots I kind of think of the New England hate about the same as Yankees hate. I always say I hate the Yankees. I don't in the least, really. They're a storied institution of winners that make the game better. I just love to watch them lose. I love watching New England play ball. Tom Brady is an incredible quarterback and I can't think of a coach in the NFL right now that is as talented and as complete as Bill Belichick. His pedigree is outstanding and there is nobody who works harder. It does drive me nuts that he dresses like a doof. That said, I'm not a New England fan. I don't root for them to lose as hard as I do the Yanks, but I do root for them to lose so the Steelers don't have to go anywhere near them in the playoffs. I figure if I hate on the cheating, or Brady's temper, or Belichick's doofy hoodies and it keeps me away from watching them play ball, I lose. They are an astonishing franchise. One of the very best I've ever seen in 40 years of watching the NFL. __________________

01-21-2015, 06:14 PM	#49
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,038 Trading: (111*)	Re: New England Patriots I think that this is really great!! __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

01-21-2015, 06:17 PM	#50
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: New England Patriots That's awesome. I hope they work out the bet. __________________

01-21-2015, 06:22 PM	#51
CigarNut Fck Cancer! Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Michael Location: Clermont, Florida Posts: 18,038 Trading: (111*)	Re: New England Patriots When the Seahawks win, the kids at the children's hospital win! __________________ Need Beads? Need Five Finger Bags? 2 of 3 Requirements for use of the CA Rolodex: 100 posts/ 60 day membership/ participation in trade (trader rating). New members can be added at any time.

01-21-2015, 07:22 PM	#52
Dave128 Sexy Dave Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Dave Location: Voorheesville, NY Posts: 3,917 Trading: (4)	Re: New England Patriots I am a Mets fan and I am glad the cheaters got caught. __________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin I "heart" Boobies and Beer!

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01-22-2015, 06:22 AM	#58
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: New England Patriots At the end of the day, NFL is just a multi-billion dollar business and should be regulated as such. __________________ Ninety percent of everything is crap - Theodore Sturgeon.

01-22-2015, 06:26 AM	#59
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: New England Patriots I like money. __________________

01-22-2015, 06:58 AM	#60
8zeros What's this button do? Join Date: Dec 2013 First Name: Roger Location: Far from everything Posts: 268 Trading: (0)	Re: New England Patriots Since they switched back to fully inflated balls at halftime it seems the Pats handicapped themselves in the first half. I wonder how many of the players are wearing special braces or other appliances that enhance their performance. Everyone does anything they think they can get away with. I grew up in the Drugged Up Players years when they used every steroid and stimulant and pain killer they could imagine. It was fair, I guess, cuz they were all doing it. __________________