All over $4

AdamJoshua · 12-10-2014, 09:02 AM

Ben Edelman is an associate professor at Harvard Business School, where he teaches in the Negotiation, Organizations & Markets unit.

Last week, Edelman was overcharged 4 bucks on a $53.35 order, big mistake by the Chinese restaurant.

If you’ve ever wondered what happens when a Harvard Business School professor thinks a family-run Chinese restaurant screwed him out of $4, you’re about to find out.

it's worth scrolling down to read all of the email exchanges, in my opinion the guy is a tool, a huge tool.

In addition to teaching at HBS, Edelman also operates a consulting practice where he advises clients like Microsoft, the NFL, the New York Times, and Universal Music on “preventing and detecting online fraud (especially advertising fraud).” (That’s from Edelman’s own website, which it seems safe to presume is always kept up to date.)

He graduated summa cum laude from Harvard College. He has a Ph.D. in economics from Harvard University, and a law degree from Harvard Law School.

Ran Duan moved to the U.S. from China when he was 3-years-old. His father had hoped to support the family with a career as an opera singer, but when that didn’t pan out, Duan says “like all Chinese families we decided to open up a restaurant.”

Oh and the food? Edelman admitted: “It was delicious.”

If I was this guy, I probably wouldn't eat there again, or at least not order under my own name

http://www.boston.com/food-dining/re...rXP/story.html

Remo · 12-10-2014, 09:23 AM

I hope he gets hit by a bus....douche!

In my best Matt Damon Bahston accent "let's got to Hahvad and **** up some smaht kids"

markem · 12-10-2014, 10:35 AM

I read that earlier. My first thought was that it might be very unfortunate to be the child of someone so petty and so vindictive.

WhiteMamba · 12-10-2014, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remo

I hope he gets hit by a bus....douche!

In my best Matt Damon Bahston accent "let's got to Hahvad and **** up some smaht kids"

I love that movie.

AdamJoshua · 12-10-2014, 11:06 AM

Lawyers, stamping out the American Dream one immigrant at a time.

pektel · 12-10-2014, 11:12 AM

I feel bad for both of them. The restaurant owner is being treated very unfairly by this guy. I also feel bad for this guy complaining. He must not be happy. Ever. I wouldn't want to have that type of outlook all the time.

Sadly, I've dealt with a few customers like this over the years. No matter WHAT you do, they will never be happy. Some even take it to the point of trying to make me feel as miserable as they do. I finally learned not to take it personally. It's their issue, not mine.

12-10-2014, 11:25 AM

It seems that Mr. Ben Edelman is simply on a crusade to see just how unfeeling and unethical a human being can be. He should be very careful, as there IS such thing as karma and he is right now, on the wrong side! Things WILL eventually come back to haunt his selfish azz many fold worse than what he is doing now.

MarkinAZ · 12-10-2014, 11:25 AM

After reading the article, there were a few consequences I thought of for Mr. Edelman, but unfortunately, are not "printable" for the virgin members of this forum

dijit · 12-10-2014, 03:35 PM

Sadly I have to admit I grew up with people like Mr Edelman even related to one of them. I cant wait to see what Karma does to him!

themoneycollector · 12-10-2014, 03:39 PM

I have a local, and also Chinese, restaurant that does this all the time.

Once I did have an old take-out menu that was differently priced, but I swear, I order the same meal there every time and it's a different price each time. The receipt is written in chinese with nothing but a total at the bottom. I jokingly tell my wife each time we order I wonder how much it's going to be this time. It's annoying as heck. I've politely pointed it out to them when I get overcharged by $1-2, but I'm not wasting more than a minute of my time to let them know and hopefully it will get fixed. Still hasn't happened.

So I understand where Edelman came from, but $4 and ask for 3x that as damages or threatening to elevate this to authorities and the constant replies when the owner tried to make it right with him is what made him a douchebag imo

Tio Gato · 12-10-2014, 04:44 PM

They don't call us residents of the Commonwealth "Mass Holes" for no reason. What a kucker.

shilala · 12-10-2014, 05:42 PM

I used to fight Verizon over money all day long. I'd call them every time I had a free minute just to jerk them around. But just because they were lying, stealing whores.
Eventually I got over it and paid them 350 bucks just so I'd never have to speak to them again.
I can get where the professor is coming from, but I'd hope his time could be better spent. Like torturing Verizon.

Porch Dweller · 12-10-2014, 06:15 PM

What a

Chainsaw13 · 12-10-2014, 06:49 PM

If you scroll down, there's a few more stories about the douche. Seems he did this once before a few years ago.

AdamJoshua · 12-10-2014, 07:19 PM

Yes this guy is a dick with nothing better to do than jerk around small business owners, it's clear he has a history of bullying them and most go home and rub at least one out right away. People like this are worse than useless, right up there with class action lawyers that collect 10s of millions of dollars in verdicts and give the plaintiffs .35 cents a piece.

I do like the guy below though.

T.G · 12-10-2014, 08:34 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iayLBI7nsE0

AdamJoshua · 12-10-2014, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iayLBI7nsE0

Classic movie.

Quote:

Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that.

12-10-2014, 09:02 AM	#1
AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,785 Trading: (40)	All over $4 Ben Edelman is an associate professor at Harvard Business School, where he teaches in the Negotiation, Organizations & Markets unit. Last week, Edelman was overcharged 4 bucks on a $53.35 order, big mistake by the Chinese restaurant. If you’ve ever wondered what happens when a Harvard Business School professor thinks a family-run Chinese restaurant screwed him out of $4, you’re about to find out. it's worth scrolling down to read all of the email exchanges, in my opinion the guy is a tool, a huge tool. In addition to teaching at HBS, Edelman also operates a consulting practice where he advises clients like Microsoft, the NFL, the New York Times, and Universal Music on “preventing and detecting online fraud (especially advertising fraud).” (That’s from Edelman’s own website, which it seems safe to presume is always kept up to date.) He graduated summa cum laude from Harvard College. He has a Ph.D. in economics from Harvard University, and a law degree from Harvard Law School. Ran Duan moved to the U.S. from China when he was 3-years-old. His father had hoped to support the family with a career as an opera singer, but when that didn’t pan out, Duan says “like all Chinese families we decided to open up a restaurant.” Oh and the food? Edelman admitted: “It was delicious.” If I was this guy, I probably wouldn't eat there again, or at least not order under my own name http://www.boston.com/food-dining/re...rXP/story.html Last edited by AdamJoshua; 12-10-2014 at 09:09 AM.

12-10-2014, 09:23 AM	#2
Remo C.I.A Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 12,597 Trading: (122)	Re: All over $4 I hope he gets hit by a bus....douche! In my best Matt Damon Bahston accent "let's got to Hahvad and **** up some smaht kids" __________________

12-10-2014, 10:35 AM	#3
markem Bunion Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Second Star on the Right Posts: 22,530 Trading: (47)	Re: All over $4 I read that earlier. My first thought was that it might be very unfortunate to be the child of someone so petty and so vindictive. __________________ I refuse to belong to any organization that would have me as a member. ~ Groucho Marx

12-10-2014, 11:06 AM	#5
AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,785 Trading: (40)	Re: All over $4 Lawyers, stamping out the American Dream one immigrant at a time.

12-10-2014, 11:12 AM	#6
pektel I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Peter Location: Grand Rapids, MN Posts: 4,320 Trading: (28)	Re: All over $4 I feel bad for both of them. The restaurant owner is being treated very unfairly by this guy. I also feel bad for this guy complaining. He must not be happy. Ever. I wouldn't want to have that type of outlook all the time. Sadly, I've dealt with a few customers like this over the years. No matter WHAT you do, they will never be happy. Some even take it to the point of trying to make me feel as miserable as they do. I finally learned not to take it personally. It's their issue, not mine. __________________ The problem is not the problem. The problem is your ATTITUDE about the problem.

12-10-2014, 11:25 AM	#7
badbriar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: All over $4 It seems that Mr. Ben Edelman is simply on a crusade to see just how unfeeling and unethical a human being can be. He should be very careful, as there IS such thing as karma and he is right now, on the wrong side! Things WILL eventually come back to haunt his selfish azz many fold worse than what he is doing now.

12-10-2014, 11:25 AM	#8
MarkinAZ Formerly MarkinOR Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Sun City West, AZ Posts: 6,220 Trading: (40)	Re: All over $4 After reading the article, there were a few consequences I thought of for Mr. Edelman, but unfortunately, are not "printable" for the virgin members of this forum __________________ "Don't worry, God will work out His plan for your life..." Psalm 138 8

12-10-2014, 03:35 PM	#9
dijit Have My Own Room Join Date: Feb 2012 First Name: Mike Location: Brownsburg, Indiana Posts: 2,186 Trading: (48)	Re: All over $4 Sadly I have to admit I grew up with people like Mr Edelman even related to one of them. I cant wait to see what Karma does to him! __________________ Sporting goods raffle for a great cause. PM me for tickets.

12-10-2014, 03:39 PM	#10
themoneycollector Nicotiana Tabacum Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hill AFB, UT Posts: 1,258 Trading: (108)	Re: All over $4 I have a local, and also Chinese, restaurant that does this all the time. Once I did have an old take-out menu that was differently priced, but I swear, I order the same meal there every time and it's a different price each time. The receipt is written in chinese with nothing but a total at the bottom. I jokingly tell my wife each time we order I wonder how much it's going to be this time. It's annoying as heck. I've politely pointed it out to them when I get overcharged by $1-2, but I'm not wasting more than a minute of my time to let them know and hopefully it will get fixed. Still hasn't happened. So I understand where Edelman came from, but $4 and ask for 3x that as damages or threatening to elevate this to authorities and the constant replies when the owner tried to make it right with him is what made him a douchebag imo

12-10-2014, 04:44 PM	#11
Tio Gato Uncle Kitty Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jeff Location: Casa Grande, AZ Posts: 2,075 Trading: (11)	Re: All over $4 They don't call us residents of the Commonwealth "Mass Holes" for no reason. What a kucker. __________________ "You stink like cigars Uncle Kitty!" Said my Boo age 3. "Kid, take care of your family and the hell with anyone else" My Grandpa Bubba.

12-10-2014, 05:42 PM	#12
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: All over $4 I used to fight Verizon over money all day long. I'd call them every time I had a free minute just to jerk them around. But just because they were lying, stealing whores. Eventually I got over it and paid them 350 bucks just so I'd never have to speak to them again. I can get where the professor is coming from, but I'd hope his time could be better spent. Like torturing Verizon. __________________

12-10-2014, 06:15 PM	#13
Porch Dweller Life is for living Join Date: Oct 2012 First Name: James Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 8,166 Trading: (24)	Re: All over $4 What a __________________ A 1911 in the hand is faster than 911 on the phone

12-10-2014, 06:49 PM	#14
Chainsaw13 Møøse bites can be nasty Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Bob Location: The Enchanted Mitten Posts: 7,039 Trading: (96)	Re: All over $4 If you scroll down, there's a few more stories about the douche. Seems he did this once before a few years ago. __________________ My neighbor came by my house this morning at 2AM, pounding on the door. Good thing I was still up playing the drums.

12-10-2014, 07:19 PM	#15
AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,785 Trading: (40)	Re: All over $4 Yes this guy is a dick with nothing better to do than jerk around small business owners, it's clear he has a history of bullying them and most go home and rub at least one out right away. People like this are worse than useless, right up there with class action lawyers that collect 10s of millions of dollars in verdicts and give the plaintiffs .35 cents a piece. I do like the guy below though.

12-10-2014, 08:34 PM	#16
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,543 Trading: (37)	Re: All over $4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iayLBI7nsE0