Are high-quality cigars healthier?

11-21-2011, 06:29 PM

Are higher-quality cigars better for you than low quality? By low quality, I'm referring to cheap online house-brands, not the dried straw you get at a gas station. I've noticed that with cheap cigars, such as $19.00-a-bundle "yard gars", I get an undefinable sickly feeling sometimes that is unrelated to the taste. Also, I notice the nicotine effect is much-I don't know how to say it- rougher? Not as pure, as if sumthin' else is mixed in there, even though they are 100% tobacco cigars. The physical effects from say a Rocky seem far more smoother than a comparable-strength cheapie. Could it be some sort of dye in the maduros, or a bleaching agent for the lighter wrappers (i.e., to wash out major discolorations)?

Bill86 · 11-21-2011, 06:33 PM

No. Unless you mean healthier than fakes with god knows what in them. Then I suppose the answer could be yes.

I don't think too many of us are concerned about health involving smoking though.

Ogre · 11-21-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

No. Unless you mean healthier than fakes with god knows what in them. Then I suppose the answer could be yes.

I don't think too many of us are concerned about health involving smoking though.

RevSmoke · 11-21-2011, 06:37 PM

As long as you are talking cigars made from straight tobacco, then I'd say they are a wash.

BUT... Some cigars use a binder or wrapper that is a tobacco product, basically a mix of ground tobacco and some sort of paste to make it into a paper. I'm not sure what that is, but... Might it be fine? Could be, but I'd rather not smoke it - if for no other reason than, I've had one and it tastes like $#!T.

Hope that helps.

Peace of the Lord be with you.

11-21-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill86

No. Unless you mean healthier than fakes with god knows what in them. Then I suppose the answer could be yes.

I don't think too many of us are concerned about health involving smoking though.

Well, perhaps what I should have said is, are low-quality cigars less healthy. I've never tasted petroleum distillates in a Cohiba. It's not that I'm concerned about smoking cigars per se, just about what might be in those really cheap house brands.

11-21-2011, 06:42 PM

I only smoke them when I'm out in bad weather or some other situation where a cigar helps the time pass, but don't want to waste something better.

NCRadioMan · 11-21-2011, 06:43 PM

Sounds like you are describing the difference between low quality tobacco and high quality tobacco, to me.

11-21-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Sounds like you are describing the difference between low quality tobacco and high quality tobacco, to me.

Maybe.
That just might be it.

I've heard that some cheap maduros are dyed. Any idea what they might use for that?

11-21-2011, 07:05 PM

Maybe it's just because I'm a newbie but it seems like there can be quite a variety in the "buzz" factor even with high quality smokes as well. I've also been told a full or empty stomach can make a big difference too, specially with full body sticks.

dave · 11-22-2011, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Diths0er

I've heard that some cheap maduros are dyed. Any idea what they might use for that?

That topic has been beat up pretty good and I, for one, have come to the determination that all "respectable" manufacturers that "dye" maduros use tobacco-"extract" for the "dye". And, I believe that to include (most of?) those you referred to above. Because, by and large, even the bundles from the larger retailers come from "respectable" factories.

......Sorry for all the quotation marks, but.... now I can claim to have meant what I thought I meant and not how any of you interpret it.

Remo · 11-22-2011, 09:03 AM

Not sure if you can even put Cigars and Healthier in the same sentence

icehog3 · 11-22-2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Remo_5_0

Not sure if you can even put Cigars and Healthier in the same sentence

I can. "Smoking cigars is healthier than smoking crystal meth.".

See? I did it! What do I win?

Remo · 11-22-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I can. "Smoking cigars is healthier than smoking crystal meth.".

See? I did it! What do I win?

Ah I see what you did there

here's your prize bro

pnoon · 11-22-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

I can. "Smoking cigars is healthier than smoking crystal meth.".

See? I did it! What do I win?

A cookie.

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icehog3 · 11-22-2011, 09:18 AM

I like Peter's prize better, Mike.

chaase321 · 11-22-2011, 09:19 AM

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I can. "Smoking cigars is healthier than smoking crystal meth.".

See? I did it! What do I win?

PROVE IT!

icehog3 · 11-22-2011, 09:20 AM

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PROVE IT!

Not a problem.

Remo · 11-22-2011, 09:24 AM

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PROVE IT!

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icehog3 · 11-22-2011, 09:26 AM

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Thanks, Mike.

shilala · 11-22-2011, 09:48 AM

Different outfits use dyes and molasses and other crap in their cigars.
I think I know exactly what you're asking, and I'd absolutely say yes.

To back that up, what's the difference between a CAO Flavours Cherry Bomb pc and a Por Larranaga pc? If anyone can smoke the former the whole way through without dying, they deserve a medal. The second, they'll want another one.

11-21-2011, 06:29 PM	#1
Diths0er Guest Posts: n/a	Are high-quality cigars healthier? Are higher-quality cigars better for you than low quality? By low quality, I'm referring to cheap online house-brands, not the dried straw you get at a gas station. I've noticed that with cheap cigars, such as $19.00-a-bundle "yard gars", I get an undefinable sickly feeling sometimes that is unrelated to the taste. Also, I notice the nicotine effect is much-I don't know how to say it- rougher? Not as pure, as if sumthin' else is mixed in there, even though they are 100% tobacco cigars. The physical effects from say a Rocky seem far more smoother than a comparable-strength cheapie. Could it be some sort of dye in the maduros, or a bleaching agent for the lighter wrappers (i.e., to wash out major discolorations)?

11-21-2011, 06:33 PM	#2
Bill86 Snob Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Bill Posts: 6,704 Trading: (67)	Re: Are high-quality cigars healthier? No. Unless you mean healthier than fakes with god knows what in them. Then I suppose the answer could be yes. I don't think too many of us are concerned about health involving smoking though. __________________ I'm drunk......but I'll get drunker! - Doug Stanhope

11-21-2011, 06:37 PM	#4
RevSmoke Ain't Never Gonna Leave Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Todd Location: Northcentral woods of Wisconsin Posts: 6,810 Trading: (51)	Re: Are high-quality cigars healthier? As long as you are talking cigars made from straight tobacco, then I'd say they are a wash. BUT... Some cigars use a binder or wrapper that is a tobacco product, basically a mix of ground tobacco and some sort of paste to make it into a paper. I'm not sure what that is, but... Might it be fine? Could be, but I'd rather not smoke it - if for no other reason than, I've had one and it tastes like $#!T. Hope that helps. Peace of the Lord be with you. __________________ Todd__ "Smoke what you like, and enjoy it!"

11-21-2011, 06:42 PM	#6
Diths0er Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Are high-quality cigars healthier? I only smoke them when I'm out in bad weather or some other situation where a cigar helps the time pass, but don't want to waste something better.

11-21-2011, 06:43 PM	#7
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11-21-2011, 07:05 PM	#9
Dr Voss Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Are high-quality cigars healthier? Maybe it's just because I'm a newbie but it seems like there can be quite a variety in the "buzz" factor even with high quality smokes as well. I've also been told a full or empty stomach can make a big difference too, specially with full body sticks.

11-22-2011, 09:03 AM	#11
Remo C.I.A Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 12,597 Trading: (122)	Re: Are high-quality cigars healthier? Not sure if you can even put Cigars and Healthier in the same sentence __________________

11-22-2011, 09:18 AM	#15
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 70,584 Trading: (60)	Re: Are high-quality cigars healthier? I like Peter's prize better, Mike. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

11-22-2011, 09:48 AM	#20
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Are high-quality cigars healthier? Different outfits use dyes and molasses and other crap in their cigars. I think I know exactly what you're asking, and I'd absolutely say yes. To back that up, what's the difference between a CAO Flavours Cherry Bomb pc and a Por Larranaga pc? If anyone can smoke the former the whole way through without dying, they deserve a medal. The second, they'll want another one. __________________