12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 - Page 15

Blueface · 12-29-2010, 07:54 AM

Well, finally hit my card today.
Bank picked it up right away and called me.
They were making charges in Italy for groceries and appliances.

Here is what really sucks and am trying to figure out.
They had my pertinent information to provide the bank for verification.
They knew my social and my date of birth.
That information was not provided to the website on the purchase.
There is something much bigger going on here where perhaps Visa was compromised.

Blueface · 12-29-2010, 09:31 AM

Just want to point out that while I have no concern right now as the bank has cancelled my card, credited by account, provided a free service for fraud protection for my credit report to address any activity on my behalf, and on and on, folks should note there is something much bigger here to potentially be concerned for, if you don't have the tools I have to protect me.

These folks got my social and date of birth.
The only way I know this is due to the bank requesting contact to verify personal information for the charges.
They made it partially through the system by providing my social and date of birth.

As you all know, that was not provided on the purchase to this vendor.
SO......clearly someone compromised serious security chit.
That means folks that think their only concern is to worry about some dumb charges on their card need to reconsider credit may be secured using their identity and a more serious issue of identity theft exists.

I highly recommend that at minimum, all call the following number and place a 90 day alert on their credit:
800-680-7289
You will be notified if any creditor is seeking to open an account.

I have always maintained credit monitoring via TransUnion for $15 a month. Well worth it and great for times like these.

14holestogie · 12-29-2010, 09:41 AM

Sorry about the hit, Carlos, but thanks for the heads up on the credit monitoring.

Blueface · 12-29-2010, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 14holestogie

Sorry about the hit, Carlos, but thanks for the heads up on the credit monitoring.

Just an hour or so of legwork.

What is wild here is how long it took for them to get to me.
That can only mean one thing, that list of theirs of folks to hit is very, very long.

14holestogie · 12-29-2010, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface

Just an hour or so of legwork.

What is wild here is how long it took for them to get to me.
That can only mean one thing, that list of theirs of folks to hit is very, very long.

...and I believe they intend to hit the entire list.

icehog3 · 12-29-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueface

Just an hour or so of legwork.

What is wild here is how long it took for them to get to me.
That can only mean one thing, that list of theirs of folks to hit is very, very long.

Or perhaps this compromise is related to something other than the Ronson purchase, Carlos?

Blueface · 12-29-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Or perhaps this compromise is related to something other than the Ronson purchase, Carlos?

Absolutely could be Tom BUT, I am not a believer in coincidences like this.
Seems folks have been posting here gradually, with the same issue.
My charges came out of Italy. Seems all are having foreign charges too.
I think it just turns out my bank contacted me, knowing someone tried to make it via their system with my personal information and they stopped them in time.
I just wonder how many others have this same issue of personal information being secured but their bank never called them as mine did me or their bank did not have that confirmation process mine did.

Starz26 · 12-29-2010, 12:13 PM

Now I will probably be scolded for this but...

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Originally Posted by Blueface

I just think there is clearly insufficient evidence to conclude the vendor is at fault here and make that assertion.

I have yet to be charged anything other than $15 and just checked again to make sure.

Remember you said that and was why you responded to my post warning people about this and the connection to shnoop

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Originally Posted by markem

At this point, you risk looking silly, vindictive, clueless, or maybe just like someone peed on your Cheerios. Dunno, but you've crossed the line of reasonableness.

Markem - Will you now say the same to Blueface? (see below)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface

Well, finally hit my card today.
Bank picked it up right away and called me.
They were making charges in Italy for groceries and appliances.

That information was not provided to the website on the purchase.
There is something much bigger going on here where perhaps Visa was compromised.

So you got hit - Too late to say I told ya so?

**In response to Tom's post about if you were sure it was due to the purchase on shnoop**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface

Absolutely could be Tom BUT, I am not a believer in coincidences like this.
Seems folks have been posting here gradually, with the same issue.

Wait, you were a believer in coincidences like this when I posted and you were not affected. Now you have been hit and with slightly different circumstances (SSN and DOB compromised but not given to shnoop) and now you are quick to say it was them and now you do not believe in coincidences??

Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......

markem · 12-29-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Starz26

Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......

No, you said it was shnoop. Major difference. This just makes you look even more clueless.

Blueface · 12-29-2010, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starz26

Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......

What I believe now, and have always believed, is this goes much further than a vendor.

Yes, now seeing that so many have been hit, and I too have, I no longer think it is a coincidence.
That in no way changes how I felt at the time this idea was originally posted and thereby don't feel any "in your face" feeling or "told you so" or whatever.
Simply, I too have now fallen victim.

While a victim, I don't see the sky falling or the end of the world though.
This is common.
This occurs every minute of the day.
I am well protected and all it took was a bit of time out of my day on the phone answering the bank's questions.

My point to post is to show I too was hit so therefore, as I said already, I now concur this is no coincidence as now there is sufficient evidence to impact ME.
My point is also there seems to be more than just charges. There is an issue here of identity theft, which goes much further beyond what was being discussed here until today.

Lastly, as Mark posts, our opposition to you was the statement that Schnoops did it. I don't believe that for a second but do believe there was a compromise of the system that accessed personal information that Schnoops NEVER got from me to perform the transaction.

Blueface · 12-29-2010, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starz26

So you got hit - Too late to say I told ya so?

Not at all.

I don't disagree that it had to do with my transaction at Schoops.

Your post on here made me watch for charges daily.
The charges to my account took place today.
I think that is pretty fast to catch it.
Furthermore, let's be clear, even if you were Paul Revere, the British were coming. All you could do at that point is know they were coming. They still could not be stopped from coming.
These charges were going to take place whether you whistled Dixie or not.
However, I still do appreciate the advance warning. Just don't agree with you as to who is at fault.
My social and birth date came from Visa and not Schnoops.

Skywalker · 12-29-2010, 12:30 PM

12 Ronson lighters... $17

Airline tickets to Yemen... $3,000

This thread... Priceless!!!

T.G · 12-29-2010, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skywalker

12 Ronson lighters... $17

Airline tickets to Yemen... $3,000

This thread... Priceless!!!

Skywalker · 12-29-2010, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G

Starz26 · 12-29-2010, 12:40 PM

In all seriousness though, glad you caughtit and it was taken care of....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface

Just want to point out that while I have no concern right now as the bank has cancelled my card, credited by account, provided a free service for fraud protection for my credit report to address any activity on my behalf, and on and on, folks should note there is something much bigger here to potentially be concerned for, if you don't have the tools I have to protect me.

These folks got my social and date of birth.
The only way I know this is due to the bank requesting contact to verify personal information for the charges.
They made it partially through the system by providing my social and date of birth.

As you all know, that was not provided on the purchase to this vendor.
SO......clearly someone compromised serious security chit.
That means folks that think their only concern is to worry about some dumb charges on their card need to reconsider credit may be secured using their identity and a more serious issue of identity theft exists.

I highly recommend that at minimum, all call the following number and place a 90 day alert on their credit:
800-680-7289
You will be notified if any creditor is seeking to open an account.

I have always maintained credit monitoring via TransUnion for $15 a month. Well worth it and great for times like these.

T.G · 12-29-2010, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skywalker

PS: Arganese cigars are poo-poo. So take that!

Blueface · 12-29-2010, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starz26

In all seriousness though, glad you caughtit and it was taken care of....

Again, thanks for bringing light to it.

I would ask you let other you know elsewhere to be vigilant of possible credit cards being issued under their names, without their knowledge.

Starz26 · 12-29-2010, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueface

My social and birth date came from Visa and not Schnoops.

That is an oddity... Is there a way to find out the same for others? Curious to see if this goes even further. Glad I subscribe to transunion as well.....

And I will pass this along to others so they can be on the lookout

Don Fernando · 12-29-2010, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starz26

Now I will probably be scolded for this but...

Remember you said that and was why you responded to my post warning people about this and the connection to shnoop

Markem - Will you now say the same to Blueface? (see below)

So you got hit - Too late to say I told ya so?

**In response to Tom's post about if you were sure it was due to the purchase on shnoop**

Wait, you were a believer in coincidences like this when I posted and you were not affected. Now you have been hit and with slightly different circumstances (SSN and DOB compromised but not given to shnoop) and now you are quick to say it was them and now you do not believe in coincidences??

Sorry, but after all the flak I got for suggesting that it was related to the purchases on shnoop.......

Dude, you really don't get what Carlos and Mark tried to explain to you before right? Their suspicion was confirmed, not yours

Starz26 · 12-29-2010, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markem

No, you said it was shnoop. Major difference. This just makes you look even more clueless.

My original post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starz26

FYI, if you ordered from this deal please watch your credit cards. Everyone I know over on the other forums that ordered this deal has had fradulant charges appear.

I Just got a call from Amex Fraud. Nailed for $3,000 charge to Luftansa and a 40.00 charge to Air asia.

Thankfully Amex is very good at detecting this stuff and stopped them in their tracks.

I have no doubt that the use of Schnoops was the culprit either through a direct fraud by the website or and indirect hacking into their database.

nuff said

12-29-2010, 07:54 AM	#281
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 Well, finally hit my card today. Bank picked it up right away and called me. They were making charges in Italy for groceries and appliances. Here is what really sucks and am trying to figure out. They had my pertinent information to provide the bank for verification. They knew my social and my date of birth. That information was not provided to the website on the purchase. There is something much bigger going on here where perhaps Visa was compromised. __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

12-29-2010, 09:31 AM	#282
Blueface Gramps 4x's Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Horatio Seymore Hiny Location: Boca Raton - North of La Habana Posts: 8,774 Trading: (8)	Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 Just want to point out that while I have no concern right now as the bank has cancelled my card, credited by account, provided a free service for fraud protection for my credit report to address any activity on my behalf, and on and on, folks should note there is something much bigger here to potentially be concerned for, if you don't have the tools I have to protect me. These folks got my social and date of birth. The only way I know this is due to the bank requesting contact to verify personal information for the charges. They made it partially through the system by providing my social and date of birth. As you all know, that was not provided on the purchase to this vendor. SO......clearly someone compromised serious security chit. That means folks that think their only concern is to worry about some dumb charges on their card need to reconsider credit may be secured using their identity and a more serious issue of identity theft exists. I highly recommend that at minimum, all call the following number and place a 90 day alert on their credit: 800-680-7289 You will be notified if any creditor is seeking to open an account. I have always maintained credit monitoring via TransUnion for $15 a month. Well worth it and great for times like these. __________________ Little known fact: I am a former member of the Village People - The Indian

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12-29-2010, 12:30 PM	#292
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 12 Ronson lighters... $17 Airline tickets to Yemen... $3,000 This thread... Priceless!!! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!