Red's Fans Check in - Page 152

chippewastud79 · 03-22-2012, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

Even so, he's still worth a sh!t ton of money, and he deserves it. I just hope he doesn't sign that big contract (for us or any other team) and wind up like Uttley.

He is a good 2B, and he will probably stay in Cincinnati. The problem is, this is the year they have to win, because Votto is gone either thru free agency or a trade. Hopefully they get a trade and get some value for him. Same with Phillips, if they can't resign him, they better trade him for something. Maybe this trade talk is an indication that Phillips doesn't want to stay.

elderboy02 · 03-22-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

He is a good 2B, and he will probably stay in Cincinnati. The problem is, this is the year they have to win, because Votto is gone either thru free agency or a trade. Hopefully they get a trade and get some value for him. Same with Phillips, if they can't resign him, they better trade him for something. Maybe this trade talk is an indication that Phillips doesn't want to stay.

Phillips has said on twitter numerous times that he wants to stay here, but I don't blame him for wanting more $$$ Gotta get paid

chippewastud79 · 03-22-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

Phillips has said on twitter numerous times that he wants to stay here, but I don't blame him for wanting more $$$ Gotta get paid

Cincinnati is a small market team, they can't come up with the scratch that almost any other team in the MLB can. If they buy one big player it forces them to play lesser quality prospects (Stubbs, Bailey) or get over the hill players (Renteria, Rolen). Their farm system seems to be good, but they management has no patience to allow players to develop. They rush everyone to the Big Show and try and develop them on the fly.

Starscream · 03-24-2012, 01:41 PM

And our new closer will never pitch a game this year. Madson out for the season for Tommy John surgery...

chippewastud79 · 03-24-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

And our new closer will never pitch a game this year. Madson out for the season for Tommy John surgery...

Nice pick up

elderboy02 · 03-24-2012, 06:01 PM

It will be interesting to see if Marshall can be a great closer. Chapman will be a nice set-up guy.

Starscream · 03-25-2012, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

It will be interesting to see if Marshall can be a great closer. Chapman will be a nice set-up guy.

Meh. I'd rather see Chapman in the rotation in Louisville than be in the pen in Cincy. After he proves himself as a starter for the Bats, then lets see what he can do for the Reds' rotation later this year or next year.

chippewastud79 · 03-25-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

It will be interesting to see if Marshall can be a great closer. Chapman will be a nice set-up guy.

'Great' and Reds pitching do not go in the same sentence, Cordero was a decent closer, Marshall won't be much better, if at all.

Chapman can't pitch on the reg, and once he gets a few days in a row, he falls apart. The league seemed to have figured out that he doesn't throw many strikes and the 3rd day in a row he is worthless. His best shot is back in the rotation like he was in Cuba, but a high pitch count and as the season wears on, I think he will become even worse. Afraid to say it, but he is showing signs that his arm is already worn out.

Starscream · 03-25-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

'Great' and Reds pitching do not go in the same sentence, Cordero was a decent closer, Marshall won't be much better, if at all.

Chapman can't pitch on the reg, and once he gets a few days in a row, he falls apart. The league seemed to have figured out that he doesn't throw many strikes and the 3rd day in a row he is worthless. His best shot is back in the rotation like he was in Cuba, but a high pitch count and as the season wears on, I think he will become even worse. Afraid to say it, but he is showing signs that his arm is already worn out.

I haven't given up on him yet, but he's been a bust so far. And that's not completely his fault. The Reds organization has completely mishandled this kid. He should have been groomed for the rotation since day one.

chippewastud79 · 03-25-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream

I haven't given up on him yet, but he's been a bust so far. And that's not completely his fault. The Reds organization has completely mishandled this kid. He should have been groomed for the rotation since day one.

The Reds don't groom anyone. Just rush prospects to the Big Show without developing anything. They are supposed to have a nice farm system, its just too bad they never stay there.

Starscream · 03-25-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chippewastud79

The Reds don't groom anyone. Just rush prospects to the Big Show without developing anything. They are supposed to have a nice farm system, its just too bad they never stay there.

Agreed.

elderboy02 · 03-29-2012, 09:09 AM

1 week away!

Starscream · 03-29-2012, 06:33 PM

I'm excited! Win or lose, I'm ready for the season to start.

Starscream · 03-30-2012, 09:56 PM

Final spot in the rotation? Bailey or Chapman.
I'm assuming Cueto, Latos, Arroyo, and Leake are already no-brainers.

elderboy02 · 03-31-2012, 07:13 AM

I think they will go with Bailey.

hotreds · 04-01-2012, 07:58 AM

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...nletter-sports

kelmac07 · 04-01-2012, 09:35 AM

Homer Bailey is a lot like Mike Pelfrey...loads of talent, but can't seem to put it together.

Starscream · 04-01-2012, 11:27 AM

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Homer Bailey is a lot like Mike Pelfrey...loads of talent, but can't seem to put it together.

Spot on. It's a shame that the Reds have a lot of guys who have talent but can never put it together.

elderboy02 · 04-01-2012, 02:05 PM

Glad to see we traded away Juan Francisco. He either hit the ball a long way, or struck out badly.

chippewastud79 · 04-01-2012, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

Glad to see we traded away Juan Francisco. He either hit the ball a long way, or struck out badly.

Why are you so in love with Stubbs and Bruce?

03-24-2012, 01:41 PM	#3024
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Red's Fans Check in And our new closer will never pitch a game this year. Madson out for the season for Tommy John surgery... __________________ Insert quote here.

03-24-2012, 06:01 PM	#3026
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,496 Trading: (133)	Re: Red's Fans Check in It will be interesting to see if Marshall can be a great closer. Chapman will be a nice set-up guy.

03-29-2012, 09:09 AM	#3032
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,496 Trading: (133)	Re: Red's Fans Check in 1 week away!

03-29-2012, 06:33 PM	#3033
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Red's Fans Check in I'm excited! Win or lose, I'm ready for the season to start. __________________ Insert quote here.

03-30-2012, 09:56 PM	#3034
Starscream Knowhutimean, Vern? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andy Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA Posts: 10,237 Trading: (4)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Final spot in the rotation? Bailey or Chapman. I'm assuming Cueto, Latos, Arroyo, and Leake are already no-brainers. __________________ Insert quote here.

03-31-2012, 07:13 AM	#3035
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,496 Trading: (133)	Re: Red's Fans Check in I think they will go with Bailey.

04-01-2012, 07:58 AM	#3036
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,658 Trading: (63)	Re: Red's Fans Check in http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...nletter-sports __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

04-01-2012, 09:35 AM	#3037
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Homer Bailey is a lot like Mike Pelfrey...loads of talent, but can't seem to put it together. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

04-01-2012, 02:05 PM	#3039
elderboy02 Lets Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dan Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 12,496 Trading: (133)	Re: Red's Fans Check in Glad to see we traded away Juan Francisco. He either hit the ball a long way, or struck out badly.