Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum  

Go Back   Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum > Cigar Forums > Cigar Discussion > All Cigar Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-14-2018, 11:06 PM   #21
T.G
Grrrrrr
 
T.G's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
First Name: The Other Adam
Posts: 15,535
Trading: (37)
Navy (Served With Honor)
T.G has disabled reputation
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 View Post
I don't freeze anything, but I only buy Cuban. I will quarantine custom rolls, but supposedly Cuba has been freezing production cigars for quite some time. I do make sure the temps in my house never get above 70*F. And I've never had a beetle (knocks on wood).
Most NC cigars are frozen also. Either by the manufacturer, importer and even some of the large retailers (IIRC, JR cigars has their own shipping container sized blast freezer).

If it doesn't hurt anything, why take the chance? Unless of course you need all that room in the freezer for your gummy bear & bacon macchiato ice cream.
T.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2018, 06:55 AM   #22
Ashcan Bill
Ol' Dude
 
Ashcan Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Bill
Location: Henderson, NV
Posts: 1,889
Trading: (6)
Partagas
Ashcan Bill has disabled reputation
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 View Post
I don't freeze anything, but I only buy Cuban. I will quarantine custom rolls, but supposedly Cuba has been freezing production cigars for quite some time. I do make sure the temps in my house never get above 70*F. And I've never had a beetle (knocks on wood).
I'm with the Admiral on this one. Most of what I buy is also Cuban, but I don't think any major manufacturer today lets stuff out of their warehouse without taking some preventive steps. And it's been quite a while since I've heard first hand of anyone having a beetle problem. I think it happened more in the past, though that's not to say it still can't happen.

I've purchased and smoked thousands of cigars and have yet to have a problem. Maybe I was born under a lucky star. Or maybe I don't freeze 'em because every time my wife sees an empty spot in the freezer she stuffs something into it and I couldn't fit a cigar in anyway. And we can't leave conservation of energy (aka laziness) out of the equation.

Also, like many here I have a temperature controlled cabinet that keeps them as cool as I want/need. So I invest my time worrying about important stuff, like alien invasions or how the Knights are doing in the playoffs.
Ashcan Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2018, 09:22 AM   #23
icehog3
Admiral Douchebag
 
icehog3's Avatar
15
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Tom
Location: Clermont, Kentucky
Posts: 70,445
Trading: (61)
HUpmann
icehog3 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G View Post
If it doesn't hurt anything, why take the chance? Unless of course you need all that room in the freezer for your gummy bear & bacon macchiato ice cream.
I could say, "if it isn't necessary, why waste the time?". But if it gives people peace of mind, then I say go for it.

No gummy bear ice cream in my freezer, just some Jeffrey Dahmer frozen dinners.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill View Post
I'm with the Admiral on this one. Most of what I buy is also Cuban, but I don't think any major manufacturer today lets stuff out of their warehouse without taking some preventive steps. And it's been quite a while since I've heard first hand of anyone having a beetle problem. I think it happened more in the past, though that's not to say it still can't happen.

I've purchased and smoked thousands of cigars and have yet to have a problem. Maybe I was born under a lucky star. Or maybe I don't freeze 'em because every time my wife sees an empty spot in the freezer she stuffs something into it and I couldn't fit a cigar in anyway. And we can't leave conservation of energy (aka laziness) out of the equation.

Also, like many here I have a temperature controlled cabinet that keeps them as cool as I want/need. So I invest my time worrying about important stuff, like alien invasions or how the Knights are doing in the playoffs.
Pretty damn good last night, Bill.
__________________


Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Tır and Mr. Mark!
icehog3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2018, 10:07 AM   #24
T.G
Grrrrrr
 
T.G's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
First Name: The Other Adam
Posts: 15,535
Trading: (37)
Navy (Served With Honor)
T.G has disabled reputation
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 View Post
No gummy bear ice cream in my freezer, just some Jeffrey Dahmer frozen dinners.
Of course. The Paleo diet. I forgot.
T.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2018, 11:26 AM   #25
T.G
Grrrrrr
 
T.G's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
First Name: The Other Adam
Posts: 15,535
Trading: (37)
Navy (Served With Honor)
T.G has disabled reputation
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 View Post
I could say, "if it isn't necessary, why waste the time?".
On a serious note, while the manufacturer might freeze, they are freezing in a climate and region where the beetles are prevalent, and the cigars or their packaging can be contaminated after the process is completed. Tobacco beetles don't just eat tobacco, they will eat the cardboard shipping boxes, paper, coffee, etc. Then there is the vendor storage facility, where again the possibility of re-exposure exists if beetles were accidentally introduced to this environment in the past. While these places do take steps to minimize the chances of re-infections by the use of pesticides and pheromone traps or even re-freezing in some cases, the possibility still exists.

So, yeah, for me, I feel it's worth the effort.
T.G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2018, 01:56 PM   #26
icehog3
Admiral Douchebag
 
icehog3's Avatar
15
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Tom
Location: Clermont, Kentucky
Posts: 70,445
Trading: (61)
HUpmann
icehog3 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G View Post
Of course. The Paleo diet. I forgot.
Low carbs, high eyeballs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by T.G View Post
So, yeah, for me, I feel it's worth the effort.
And I totally understand, and am not trying to sway anyone to my way of doing things. Just throwing my (lack of) process out there, to each whatever helps him sleep at night. You raise many valid points.
__________________


Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Tır and Mr. Mark!
icehog3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 03:40 AM   #27
Subvet642
Bilge Rat
 
Subvet642's Avatar
1
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
First Name: Darren
Location: Torpedo Room Bilge
Posts: 2,997
Trading: (13)
LFdC Navy (Served With Honor)
Subvet642 is a name known to allSubvet642 is a name known to allSubvet642 is a name known to allSubvet642 is a name known to allSubvet642 is a name known to allSubvet642 is a name known to all
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 View Post
I don't freeze anything, but I only buy Cuban. I will quarantine custom rolls, but supposedly Cuba has been freezing production cigars for quite some time. I do make sure the temps in my house never get above 70*F. And I've never had a beetle (knocks on wood).
Same here, and I always opt for the nitrogen packing 'cause I figure the little f'ers can't hold their breath for the time it takes them to fly here.
__________________
"Man's mind is his basic tool of survival. Life is given to him, survival is not." -John Galt
Subvet642 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 06:26 AM   #28
dijit
Have My Own Room
 
dijit's Avatar
5
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
First Name: Mike
Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
Posts: 2,186
Trading: (48)
Montecristo AirForce (Served With Honor)
dijit is just really nicedijit is just really nicedijit is just really nicedijit is just really nice
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

I have had a couple run ins with beetles in 35 years of cigars. Both recently, both with Cubans, and different suppliers That being said I do throw mine in the freezer overnight when I get them but I think its more of a comfort thing than anything else. Besides the wife never looks in the freezer so when I move them to the humidor I can honestly say "no I did not get these today"
__________________
Sporting goods raffle for a great cause. PM me for tickets.
dijit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 07:50 AM   #29
icehog3
Admiral Douchebag
 
icehog3's Avatar
15
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Tom
Location: Clermont, Kentucky
Posts: 70,445
Trading: (61)
HUpmann
icehog3 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dijit View Post
I have had a couple run ins with beetles in 35 years of cigars. Both recently, both with Cubans, and different suppliers That being said I do throw mine in the freezer overnight when I get them but I think its more of a comfort thing than anything else. Besides the wife never looks in the freezer so when I move them to the humidor I can honestly say "no I did not get these today"
__________________


Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Tır and Mr. Mark!
icehog3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 12:07 PM   #30
massphatness
Where's my buffaloooo ...
 
massphatness's Avatar
16
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Vin
Location: MassHolia
Posts: 12,688
Trading: (206)
ERdM
massphatness has disabled reputation
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

I freeze everything because I never want to smoke a Festival Mareva recorder. I nearly pooped myself when I pulled this stick from the box a bunch of years ago.

__________________
Help Support The Navy SEAL Foundation: HERE
massphatness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 04:38 PM   #31
AdamJoshua
Article 4 Free Inhabitant
 
AdamJoshua's Avatar
11
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
First Name: The Other Adam
Location: Satellite Beach
Posts: 14,771
Trading: (40)
Bolivar Army (Served With Honor)
AdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud ofAdamJoshua has much to be proud of
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Subvet642 View Post
Same here, and I always opt for the nitrogen packing 'cause I figure the little f'ers can't hold their breath for the time it takes them to fly here.
Oh contre' there Normy, modern scientist have found that insects can hold their breath for days at a time as too much oxygen can actually kill them.


AdamJoshua is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2018, 06:06 PM   #32
DEZn00ts
What? I didn't catch that
 
DEZn00ts's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
First Name: Xavier
Location: Gary, Indiana
Posts: 110
Trading: (0)
DEZn00ts is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

Well I think that me leaving them in the freezer for 7-8 days is doing them justice. I've heard all types of methods and reasoning online. heard that freezing them doesn't have a 100% mortality rate either so it's kind of hard to figure out what to do. So to be safe I left them in there for 8 days and will be taking them out tomorrow. Safest bet was for me to not skimp and buy beads and make sure my humidity levels don't fluctuate.
__________________
Just trying to be the best I can be.
DEZn00ts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2018, 08:30 AM   #33
bonjing
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
bonjing's Avatar
13
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,966
Trading: (39)
bonjing has disabled reputation
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

7-8 days is good. I’ve forgotten that I’ve put some in the freezer for almost a month. Good double bagging, make sure the air is pulled out. Bags are always still tight around the boxes or sticks when I found them.

Did it hurt the sticks, dunno, I have the pallet of an old billy goat.
bonjing is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2018, 09:50 AM   #34
icehog3
Admiral Douchebag
 
icehog3's Avatar
15
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Tom
Location: Clermont, Kentucky
Posts: 70,445
Trading: (61)
HUpmann
icehog3 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjing View Post
Did it hurt the sticks, dunno, I have the pallet of an old billy goat.
Don't disparage yourself, Greg, it's much closer to a young billy goat's.
__________________


Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Tır and Mr. Mark!
icehog3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2018, 12:30 PM   #35
DEZn00ts
What? I didn't catch that
 
DEZn00ts's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
First Name: Xavier
Location: Gary, Indiana
Posts: 110
Trading: (0)
DEZn00ts is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Freezing Cigars For Beetles? What do you guys think?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bonjing View Post
7-8 days is good. I’ve forgotten that I’ve put some in the freezer for almost a month. Good double bagging, make sure the air is pulled out. Bags are always still tight around the boxes or sticks when I found them.

Did it hurt the sticks, dunno, I have the pallet of an old billy goat.
Yea I just pulled them out... Still had a great seal. When I put them in I pulled all the air out and triple bagged them so I didn't have to deal with freezer burn or some ****. Better safe then sorry.
__________________
Just trying to be the best I can be.
DEZn00ts is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content is copyrighted jointly by Cigar Asylum and the content provider.