Official MMA Thread - Page 23

goalie204 · 07-09-2009, 05:25 AM

ppl are crazy if they think alves will beat gsp

ActionAndy · 07-09-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by goalie204

ppl are crazy if they think alves will beat gsp

I want to see the floor of the cage mopped up with Thiago's tears >=(

BengalMan · 07-10-2009, 07:47 AM

GSP is fighting, I forgot how much goalie jocks him, lol.

Anyways, tomorrow's card is going to be amazing. I think the Mir Lesnar fight is going to be faster than people think. Ultimately, I think Mir will once catch an over zealous Brock in a submission.

As far as the GSP fight goes, Alves is far superior in striking, much bigger, much stronger (Alves projected to walk into the ring at around 197-200 lbs) I think this fight has the ability to go 5 rounds and be boring. Why? Because despite GSP saying he'll stand and bang with Alves, he won't because he'll get put to sleep. Ultimately, I think GSP will take down Alves fairly at will, and unfortunately this may turn into a lay-n-pray snooze fest.

The Hendo and Bisping fight is a toss up to me. I believe Hendo is the superior fighter and will ultimately win, however it's hard for me to call this one.

I hope we get to see the Jon Jones fight as well as the Coleman/Bonnar fight. I think it's hysterical that Coleman comes back, gets put into the UFC Hall of Fame, and is now relinquished to the non-televised under card.

BengalMan · 07-10-2009, 07:51 AM

Love you picks Kurt, however the only one I'm changing is Jon Jones getting the W. This guy is the future at LHW, and I'm thinking after this fight, he propels himself into some serious main card fights. I believe Bonnar and Coleman will be a war as they both need to win. I'm with you though in that Bonnar gets the win.

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Cant wait for this weekends event!

UFC Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir Hopefully Mir can win again

UFC Welterweight Championship
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves Love the Pitbull!

Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping Can't stand Bisping!
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Jim Miller vs. Mac Danzig
Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien
CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor
Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty

Its going to be a great night of fighting!

12stones · 07-10-2009, 08:15 AM

I can't wait to see this card!! Here's some more predictions:

http://www.faniq.com/blog/UFC-100-Pr...ves-Blog-26708

ActionAndy · 07-10-2009, 08:37 AM

I give Mir less than %20 on this one. I'm not a Lesnar fan...actually I'm not a fan of any current heavyweight other than Fedor. It's just that I can't think of a way for Mir to harm Brock. Yes he caught him in a sub, but how long ago was that? Lesnar should have been training nonstop against that sort of thing, I just can't see it happening twice. But hopefully it's an exciting fight.

07-10-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan

As far as the GSP fight goes, Alves is far superior in striking, much bigger, much stronger (Alves projected to walk into the ring at around 197-200 lbs)

Yeah, but let's see if he makes weight this time.

I still think GSP will man handle him. In training he gives Rashad Evans and guys that size a lot of trouble with regards to wrestling .

I think there will be a decisive win by GSP.

TriStar · 07-10-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan

Ultimately, I think GSP will take down Alves fairly at will, and unfortunately this may turn into a lay-n-pray snooze fest.

Not once has GSP been on top and simply played the lay-n-pray strategy. He doesn't stop working when he's on top and Alves' face will look like Fitch's after tomorrow night.

TriStar · 07-10-2009, 10:47 AM

Just in case anyone forgot how Fitch's face looked like when GSP was on top for nearly the entire fight:

07-10-2009, 11:29 AM

thats an ugly picture, alves should give gsp a challenge. dont forget about paul thiago that could be a future champ. and he is already a primetime guy in only his second ufc appearance. Fitch's face might get rearanged again.

07-10-2009, 11:30 AM

thats an ugly picture, alves should give gsp a challenge. dont forget about paul thiago, he could be a future champ. and he is already a primetime guy in only his second ufc appearance. Fitch's face might get rearanged again.

goalie204 · 07-10-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BengalMan

GSP is fighting, I forgot how much goalie jocks him, lol.

As far as the GSP fight goes, Alves is far superior in striking, much bigger, much stronger (Alves projected to walk into the ring at around 197-200 lbs) I think this fight has the ability to go 5 rounds and be boring. Why? Because despite GSP saying he'll stand and bang with Alves, he won't because he'll get put to sleep. Ultimately, I think GSP will take down Alves fairly at will, and unfortunately this may turn into a lay-n-pray snooze fest.

I've been following gsp for a LONG time. Anyway, he's going to destroy alves.

NCRadioMan · 07-10-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by goalie204

ppl are crazy if they think alves will beat gsp

Two words: Matt Serra

Anything can happen though I think GSP will win.

UFC Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir Hopefully Mir can win again

UFC Welterweight Championship
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves Love the Pitbull!

Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Jim Miller vs. Mac Danzig
Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien
CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor
Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty

ActionAndy · 07-10-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Two words: Matt Serra

Anything can happen though I think GSP will win.

UFC Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir Hopefully Mir can win again

UFC Welterweight Championship
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves Love the Pitbull!

Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Jim Miller vs. Mac Danzig
Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien
CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor
Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty

I really want a win for Mac Danzig. Sick of seeing him lose.

Ken · 07-10-2009, 02:13 PM

Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir - I want a rubber match. I think the match of is quite interesting. Won't go past the 2nd round either by Grape Ape poundage or a skilled sub.
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves - Alves has the big punch but holds nothing else over GSP. But that big punch can ruin your night.
Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping - Even though Hendo is getting up in the years Bisping hasn't fought anyone close to his caliber. We'll see how good he thinks he is after this fight.
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago -oddly enough
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher - Good fight. Everyone thought Kang would run over Belcher.
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Jim Miller vs.Mac Danzig - Yeah, probably, though I hope I'm wrong.
Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien
CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor

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Originally Posted by TriStar

Not once has GSP been on top and simply played the lay-n-pray strategy. He doesn't stop working when he's on top and Alves' face will look like Fitch's after tomorrow night.

GSP is an active ground guy and puts a hurting on people. Lay-n-pray didn't force Serra to tap or make BJ 'the man ready to die' Penn unable to walk out of his corner at the bell.

P.S. - I did like the knee-bar Mir put on Lesnar in their 1st fight, so if I see that again I will neither be surprised nor disappointed.

07-11-2009, 01:17 AM

I hope Akiyama loses, that guy is a coward. He has been caught greasing up with vasaline before against Sakauraba.

Savvy · 07-11-2009, 04:13 AM

UFC Heavyweight Championship
Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir Hopefully Mir can win, should be a good one.

UFC Welterweight Championship
Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves

Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher
Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Jim Miller vs. Mac Danzig
Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant
Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien
CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor
Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty

I'm in Germany right now, anyone know where I can stream this at about 3am here haha.

BengalMan · 07-11-2009, 10:01 AM

Everyone is saying that Mir's submission was lucky, random, etc. In a way it was, however, Mir is one of the BEST BJJ submission artists in the game today. He is VERY comfortable on his back and on top, and as we saw in the Nog fight, Mir's striking has IMPROVED vastly. I don't think the first sub on Brock was a fluke, it was Mir waiting for the time to take advantage of his far superior ground game. One thing though is Brock is VERY fast and has an excellent wrestling game. This fight should be very interesting with Brock's superior size, strength, and wrestling, however Mir's superior striking and BJJ. Either way this fight is going to be a war, and I have a feeling will end before the end of round 3.

The Alves/GSP fight is going to be good. I'm eager to see both their game plans. I'm not doubting that GSP is a BEAST and is very well rounded, but I think this is his biggest challenge yet.

I'm not impressed with Paulo Thiago at all. He was dominated the whole fight till he landed that shot on Koscheck that put him out. Now he faces Fitch, a bigger and better wrestler than Kos. I just don't see Thiago coming out of this one with a W.

I really hope Jon Jones wins, if he does, I think he'll get a big push into contention at LHW and onto main cards. Jake O'Brien is the exact definition of lay and pray though. He's one of the most boring fighters I've seen, the question is will Jones be able to stop Jake's takedown's and his superior wrestling.

TriStar · 07-11-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Savvy

I'm in Germany right now, anyone know where I can stream this at about 3am here haha.

Legally, you can purchase off of Yahoo, they stream every UFC online. Illegally, I'm not sure. I hear the free streams are crap anyways might as well wait a day or two and get the PPV.

BengalMan · 07-11-2009, 09:48 PM

What a KO by Hendo! He was charging that right hand ALL FIGHT. GSP straight dominated Alves and IMO the only fighter in the world that has a chance of beating him right now is Anderson and I think we'll see that fight sooner than later. Looking forward to see the fight that laced the mat FULL of blood.

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goalie204 Have My Own Room Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Myles Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,659 Trading: (12)	Re: Official MMA Thread ppl are crazy if they think alves will beat gsp

07-10-2009, 07:47 AM	#443
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: Official MMA Thread GSP is fighting, I forgot how much goalie jocks him, lol. Anyways, tomorrow's card is going to be amazing. I think the Mir Lesnar fight is going to be faster than people think. Ultimately, I think Mir will once catch an over zealous Brock in a submission. As far as the GSP fight goes, Alves is far superior in striking, much bigger, much stronger (Alves projected to walk into the ring at around 197-200 lbs) I think this fight has the ability to go 5 rounds and be boring. Why? Because despite GSP saying he'll stand and bang with Alves, he won't because he'll get put to sleep. Ultimately, I think GSP will take down Alves fairly at will, and unfortunately this may turn into a lay-n-pray snooze fest. The Hendo and Bisping fight is a toss up to me. I believe Hendo is the superior fighter and will ultimately win, however it's hard for me to call this one. I hope we get to see the Jon Jones fight as well as the Coleman/Bonnar fight. I think it's hysterical that Coleman comes back, gets put into the UFC Hall of Fame, and is now relinquished to the non-televised under card.

07-10-2009, 08:15 AM	#445
12stones Yo Mama is so... Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Ricky Location: Houston, TX Posts: 184 Trading: (1)	Re: Official MMA Thread I can't wait to see this card!! Here's some more predictions: http://www.faniq.com/blog/UFC-100-Pr...ves-Blog-26708

07-10-2009, 08:37 AM	#446
ActionAndy Dayman, Master of Karate Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andy Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 671 Trading: (7)	Re: Official MMA Thread I give Mir less than %20 on this one. I'm not a Lesnar fan...actually I'm not a fan of any current heavyweight other than Fedor. It's just that I can't think of a way for Mir to harm Brock. Yes he caught him in a sub, but how long ago was that? Lesnar should have been training nonstop against that sort of thing, I just can't see it happening twice. But hopefully it's an exciting fight.

07-10-2009, 10:47 AM	#449
TriStar Smokes, let's go. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 63 Trading: (1)	Re: Official MMA Thread Just in case anyone forgot how Fitch's face looked like when GSP was on top for nearly the entire fight: __________________

07-10-2009, 11:29 AM	#450
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Official MMA Thread thats an ugly picture, alves should give gsp a challenge. dont forget about paul thiago that could be a future champ. and he is already a primetime guy in only his second ufc appearance. Fitch's face might get rearanged again.

07-10-2009, 11:30 AM	#451
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Official MMA Thread thats an ugly picture, alves should give gsp a challenge. dont forget about paul thiago, he could be a future champ. and he is already a primetime guy in only his second ufc appearance. Fitch's face might get rearanged again.

07-11-2009, 01:17 AM	#456
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Official MMA Thread I hope Akiyama loses, that guy is a coward. He has been caught greasing up with vasaline before against Sakauraba.

07-11-2009, 04:13 AM	#457
Savvy Bull Goose Loony Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jordan Location: Wherever the AF takes me Posts: 381 Trading: (11)	Re: Official MMA Thread UFC Heavyweight Championship Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir Hopefully Mir can win, should be a good one. UFC Welterweight Championship Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman Jim Miller vs. Mac Danzig Dong Hyun Kim vs. T.J. Grant Jon Jones vs. Jake O’Brien CB Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty I'm in Germany right now, anyone know where I can stream this at about 3am here haha.

07-11-2009, 10:01 AM	#458
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: Official MMA Thread Everyone is saying that Mir's submission was lucky, random, etc. In a way it was, however, Mir is one of the BEST BJJ submission artists in the game today. He is VERY comfortable on his back and on top, and as we saw in the Nog fight, Mir's striking has IMPROVED vastly. I don't think the first sub on Brock was a fluke, it was Mir waiting for the time to take advantage of his far superior ground game. One thing though is Brock is VERY fast and has an excellent wrestling game. This fight should be very interesting with Brock's superior size, strength, and wrestling, however Mir's superior striking and BJJ. Either way this fight is going to be a war, and I have a feeling will end before the end of round 3. The Alves/GSP fight is going to be good. I'm eager to see both their game plans. I'm not doubting that GSP is a BEAST and is very well rounded, but I think this is his biggest challenge yet. I'm not impressed with Paulo Thiago at all. He was dominated the whole fight till he landed that shot on Koscheck that put him out. Now he faces Fitch, a bigger and better wrestler than Kos. I just don't see Thiago coming out of this one with a W. I really hope Jon Jones wins, if he does, I think he'll get a big push into contention at LHW and onto main cards. Jake O'Brien is the exact definition of lay and pray though. He's one of the most boring fighters I've seen, the question is will Jones be able to stop Jake's takedown's and his superior wrestling.

07-11-2009, 09:48 PM	#460
BengalMan Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ian Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,280 Trading: (10)	Re: Official MMA Thread What a KO by Hendo! He was charging that right hand ALL FIGHT. GSP straight dominated Alves and IMO the only fighter in the world that has a chance of beating him right now is Anderson and I think we'll see that fight sooner than later. Looking forward to see the fight that laced the mat FULL of blood.